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Practice 1:	20:10	(10 minutes)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:20	(10 minutes)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:30	(25 minutes)
Race:	20:55	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.7.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)).
Weather: Dry
Track: Brno 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=68;theme=3).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.

What sort of race times are people getting here? Is it near the 2min mark? I hope not as can't seem to crack 2:06!!  :(

I'd suspect the really fast guys will be sub 2:00 in qualifying  :P

I've managed a 2:00.5 in the Vertigo.

That's depressing, I can't get close to those times in a GT2 :'(

Hi, being new to this I'm a bit unsure of how to enter (if I can) for the race on Tuesday.
Can I put my name down to race?
If so, how do I go about it?

Thanks

Darren

Right now all the full time places are taken, but if there are spaces you can join as a reserve - the password will be available from the panel at the top of this thread a few hours before the race.

Thanks,
Where can I check for available spaces?

Darren

Form the GTR2 lobby, once the server goes to Practice 2 reserves can try and join.

Thanks again.

One last question though..
Regarding the cars, all the full time drivers have their own skins. I presume i can use one of the game default cars.

Darren

You have to download the skinpack, but as a non-team based driver you can only pick default :).

I've downloaded the skin pack, cheers.

Stupid question coming....

What's faster, GTC or GT2? In fact if someone could list them in order that'd be ideal! :)

Also, are NGT and GTC the same thing?

Cheers!

GT2 should be faster than GTC but there's not a huge amount in it. I'd guess around a second or two at Brno.

GTC is the class that replaced NGT, so it's effectively the same thing for the purposes of this league.

I'll race this one if there is space on the server. How many slots is it set to these days?


I'm down to a low 2:02 in the Mosler, think a high 2:01 is about the limit of my ability.

32 slots I think, get there early Aagramn :)

As far as I can see, thats a really nice time pops. A 59, and a lowish one at that, is definately possible in the RS but not by me and I'll be around Pops time. Should be fun :)

I managed to get a 2:02:7 last night in quali setup but for race with (more than) enough fuel I'm nearer 2:05:5 ish. has anyone tested soft slicks for 25 laps??

The fronts wear down pretty quickly at Brno. Back in season 4 I tried an M3 on softs, I ended up crawling around for the last 2 or 3 laps. Softs may be possible, depending on your car, setup and driving style. I'll be puttings meds on my Mosler.

I'll be in the mosler too, and I've been practising with meds so I think I'll stick with them!

Good luck! Not sure the mediums on my mosler will make it through the race either!  :D

Must be something to do with the fact that I can't drive for toffee!!  ;D

I'll not be suprised if a Vertigo or two came in the top 5 tomorrow, even on GTR2 rank without the -30Kg it's 2:00.3 and it really flies here.

The TVR's a bit of a handful but I can squeeze into the 2:01's in race trim.  Not sure I'll be keeping that up all race though! :-\

I still think the Modena needs more ballast help come the mid season break. I can only get it down to 2:01.7 in TT mode with qualifying setup. :( It could do with another 10kg off imho.

2:02:7 here in full race trim in the modena....yes...please help  :'(

I tried your setuo and with it I did the same time, but that set has terrible turn-in. When I took most of that away it immediatly was more than a sec faster. :)

How much fuel do you guys put in for a 25 lap race? The ingame amount seems to just be nonsence, not really sure what the point in it is tbh!

Edit: just realised it's 40mins, so under 20 laps then.

I will be here for this one.

I'm nightshift tonight so will escape as soon as the race ends, but I will post later from work.

Hopefully the race will run sharp on time so I can make work on time.

Time to actually have a look at the track and see what car I'm choosing for this series

What did you do to the setup to make it turn in better for you? I had to make it far less evil to reduce the "fally offy" factor and as a result the setup is stable and boring, something that I know you really don't like. :)

Usual stuff, but especially lower that 100% coast  :o. Downed it to 20 or 30% and that already helped a lot. Also more caster, lower ride height and making it symmetrical.
Lower front ARB and more of that. Made the whole thing symmetrical as I found some things very weird (like rideheight).
It's a bit more tricky to drive indeed, but I'm sure that's worth a second :)

I can understand the 100% coast mainly due to the Fezza's tendancy for snap oversteer under braking, but I usually find Motec is very useful for the diff settings (in my case at least!).
I'll be using my Mosler setup tweaked for the track, hope I do better this time though!

Ah right, you've basically done the opposite of what I've done to create the setup in the first place. ROFL. :laugh:

I found I had to reduce the castor drastically to get rid of the horrible yawing you get with the F360 and then I had to increase the coast to prevent the back end coming round under braking and I hate low ride height cause it's bad to hit the floor. I have been steadily reducing the front ARB, so maybe I'll go a little further on that.

Do you use Motec a lot Simon?

Nope, never. Don't even know how to run it. Looks far too complicated for my pitiful brain to understand any of it.  :)

Was on pole when game crasht, then when I wanted to get back Roadrunner took my spot.

If somebody gives up after a few laps I'll be more pissed off.

some thing was wrong with lap times... i couldnt see them, then i couldnt join the grid. I was floating under the track? hit escape as some thing was very wrong?

Well I couldn't get even start lap 1 JR :'( Finally got a half decent quali lap for 3rd on grid and then when I tried to join race I sank through tarmac and my position was -1. Should have guessed something was up as timing was all to cock during quali.

First buggy GTR2 moment but still a kick in the teeth nonetheless :'(

edit-that makes two of us, no chance of a re-run?  ;)

 

thats annoying....i patiently waited for praccy 2 and joined as a reserve  :)

managed to put the Vertigo in 5th for quali and felt a little more in the car....was still 0.9s of pole but knew the race would be close....

...but never had a chance as i couldn't see anyone on the grid....got disco'd  :-[ :-X >:(

fancied a top 5 finished lol  ;D

Unfortunately I found that dull. F360 Modena really didn't work for me. Had TT and Adam in their 911s around me near the start, but I was unable to fight with them and when they both outbroke me on the outside and drove round the outside of me there was no point in fighting back so I just let them go without a struggle and sat in no mans land.

Then Pops had an incident and rejoined about 7 seconds behind me and didn't take too long to catch me, but even that wasn't fun. Sorry Pops, but I didn't have to defend at all, I just drove normally, completely within myself as there was no point in pushing. Your Vertigo didn't have enough straight line speed to even make an attempted pass, which was a shame for you as you were way quicker than me. I could drive so slowly round the corners, make sure my exit was anything from ok to good and still be safe that you wouldn't stand a chance come braking as you'd be too far behind to do anything without a do or die manoeuvre (which I know isn't really your style). Man that Vertigo sucks for racing, you were 1.5 seconds or more faster than me per lap, but it was really sucky for you to be so far behind come the end of the straights. Must admit if you had gone for it I would have just let you go as you were a lot quicker and I didn't have it in me to fight.

Sorry to hear about all the discos and falling through floors problems. Dunno whether that is a problem with running 32 slots or not.

Sorry to see a few guys disco or have bugs.         Was a very strange race for me. Started 4th after the drop outs. Tried my best to keep with Paul but he was slightly too quick. Mark was attempting to hold me but likewise I was slightly quicker than him. Basically ended up racing with myself although cars were not far spread out.             Nice win Dan. Very well driven

well chuffed with that!! ;D   Went qiucker in qualli than i thought i would but got pipped to third by sbg .  Managed to get passed paul after he went wide at the first corner and pulled enough gap to be able just to concentrate on the the track.   Was lapping the same as Zacari for the next 8 laps ..unluckily for him Zacari made a mistake coming out of turn 2 and i got through.
Kept consistant until the end but was suprised Paul or Zacari didnt get any closer as  my rear tires were shot at the end.
Cheers all

Replay and provisional results now available

Really fun race that in the end.  Qually was the nightmare I thought it might be ... I was quicker in the race I think.  Still, started at 15th, so I still had a chance of a top-10 finish.

Due to a few problems other drivers were having I was closer to that single digit finish before I hit the throttle.  The first few laps saw me pull away from Darren's Morgan, and with Shark and TT infront of me I had to get up to speed quickly ... and thankfully I did.  When we had a Mosler spin out (Madd?) I caught up with TT big time, and a couple of laps later I got right under his bumper and half outbraked him, and half got let by ( cheers TT ;) ).

Then it was time for a spot of Shark hunting.  Gradually reeled him in, and then did him on the brakes, with TT sneaking through as well I think.

I banged in my fastest lap about halfway through the race .... and then my tyres seemed to let go in a big way for a few laps, and TT got by and got a few seconds gap and I was all but ready to sit there till the finish.  I'm guessing TT's tyres had taken a beating too, and once more I reeled him in, blitzing by (no letting me through this time!) after getting a wicked exit to the uphil chicane.  After getting the flashed lights from TT I thought he might be backing off, and that was pretty much that for the race.

I made a dent in the gap to Backo, but my tyres couldn't keep going with that level of punishment, so I had to settle for 9th.

Still, well happy with that result, some hard racing there.  Really good fun.

Very frustrating in the end :(

Got pole before JR got disco'd, was taking it pretty easy in the race when the seq. shifter pushed down into Turn 2 and 1st gear kicked the back round too far to recover, went from 1st to 3rd.  After that was behind Paul and destroyed my tyres trying to get passed, when I inherited 2nd after he spun I could only close a couple of seconds in the last 4 laps.

The more I run NGT the more I'm tempted to forget the shifter and use the paddle shift, it's the only part of the G25 that's worse than the DFP :(

It was also really frustrating to see JR get disco'd, I was looking forward to that.  I think the 2 or 3 cars directly behind  me on the grid didn't make it which was also annoying, as was people giving up after 3 or 4 laps into a 20 lap race.  Even if you spin, as I did, you can still make places up, etc.  If you're just gonna leave, especially when it's a full server, then leave before the end of quali so others can race! :P

well that lived upto the corking battle royale i expected...amazing qually and race session from start to finish !  8)

Qually fight was great with many drivers trading top 10 times and i eventually got it together to put a 2:01 in and grab 7th, albeit 1.7secs slower than my PB ??? How comes the track temp was so high tonight?..surely its not that warm in Slovenia at the moment? I was literally tearing up my rears after 1 outlap and one flyer ! and yet offline i could put 2-3 flyers before the tyres overheated.

Knew the race was going to be a real fight with Brian Kerr in front of me and Baracus and Mark Mclean right behind me, and thats exactly how it turned out! Was sorry to see Ginsters Disco on the line  :(


From lap 1 the fight was a pure Morgan v Porker v Ferrari battle, awesome stuff. I managed to keep within 1-2 secs of Brian and the top 3 for about 25 minutes, at the same time fending off vigorous attacks from Baras Fezza. Then Bara dropped back in a fight with Mark Mc for a while and it was my turn to fight off a charging Mark Mc in his infamous Black West Porsche. It was a case of deja vu as i remember another memorable fight with him in that same car at this track a while back  :fencing:
It was an awesome fight with him pressuring me all over the track. About the only corners i was quicker were t1 and 3.
I fended him off for about 15minutes whilst my tyres got worse and worse. I was itching for him to drop back as whenever he did, i was able to close the gap back up on the front 5. But, i finally got taken by Mark Mc with about 4 minutes remaining when i just got a little wide under braking and he was able to get up the inside, which was gutting :(. But worse on the very next lap when i was attempting to get back past him up the inside at T1, he got a little loose, moved in a bit and i had to ease off the throttle right where i normally floor it and the sneaky re-emergent Baracus sped by me on the outside and we ended up with all 3 of us going hell for leather down to T2's hard braking zone  :o
Alas, they had both mugged me with minutes to spare, but i doth my cap to the pair of them and their superb driving :notworthy:
I had run 5th the entire race upto that point and also had kept mostly within 2-5 secs of Kerr and top 3 for whole race  
The fights with Bara and Mark Mc were just amazing, best pure action race ive had for a while. :thumbup1: By race end my wrists were aching where i was gripping the wheel so tightly and i was soaked in sweat from the effort :sweatdrop:

My tyres were pretty shot by the time they both got me and i just had two laps to bring it home for another 7th place. Feel a bit robbed though, i shouldnt have conceded so late but they are two great drivers and i had used up all my guile trying to keep them at bay.

A corker ! :euro:

Well that was my first on line race. Had fun although I span off and damaged my car badly, so I decided to pit. Came out a lap down. Hope I did'nt scare any of you front runners on my pit exit? If I did I am sorry.
Anyway had fun at the beginning dicing with a 360 until the spin.

Now I need to get a good set up. Anyone help me out for a porsche?

Darren

Unofficial Lapchart (http://lapcharts.simracing.org.uk/Lapcharts/LS Brno 05-02-2008/index.html)

Way hey....I managed to finish a race at last this season.  :)

I enjoyed that one, shame about the disco's etc  :(

First half of race was quite steady, holding a gap of about 2 secs to Darren's Morgan in front untill around lap 9 or 10 Darren seemed to be struggling a bit and I closed right up with the recovering Madd all over my Aris like a rash. Daz's tyres must have been giving him probs though and I was taken a little by supprise at how slowly he was going round the final chicane and had to tickle my brakes to avoid tailending him...with the inevitable spin in the Modena as a result  ::)
That lost me four places and started chasing the 7 second gap...with Stewprovo never more than a sec behind. Passed Darren in the kitty litter a few laps later and could just make out the distant form of Aagramn's mossler ahead.
pushed as much as possible and managed to close up with about 4 laps to go...but the 360 just cannot compete down the straights with the Mossler and my rubber was getting pretty shot by then, so not much hope of passing. Made one semi-attempt but put the power down a little too early and made like a lawnmower for a couple of hundred yards before managing to ease it back onto the black stuff.

Enjoyed the race though....nice track this one.

Grats to the podium and Dan on his win.

This might be the only track that I like but my results are rubbish. I enjoyed the race nonetheless, especially tussling with Adam. Though I wanted to avoid a situation where two Legends would collide and punt eachother out.  ;)  So when Adam went inside under braking I prefered to let him by. In the later stage my tyres were shredded and he could drive much faster than me. Well done.  8)

I must say I was a bit surprised we could get by you that easy, Shark. When Adam went outside around you I grabbed his tail to prevent you from slipping in and it worked. I guess some was due to you not being your pesky self.  :P  Towards the end I'm sure you could catch me, though, I was losing almost a sec per lap.  :-\

Good show Legends! MJ - have some pancakes every Sunday and Tuesday!  :smartass:

TT

I had the same  bug a few others seemed to have, so left pretty pronto so I didn't end up causing issues for anyone else.

Shame, I was quite pleased at not qualifying in the back 2 rows! :D

Nah, my car just wasn't working for me and after my recent incidents I'm trying even harder to avoid all contact and if that means not driving out of my skin trying to go faster than I actually can or defending to within an inch of my life then so be it. I could have gone a little faster when Pops was chasing me, but I didn't have to so what's the point in risking it all. If he'd gone for a move up the inside, there was no point in fighting it when he was so much faster.

I think that's part of the reason I've had a few incidents recently is that everyone else seems to be getting faster and I can't find any more speed. If anything I seem to be getting slower. Boo hoo. ;) This has meant trying too hard and trying to go faster than my abilities will allow. I should just accept that I can't go any faster and that people I used to beat I can't anymore. It's very scarey when Jeff gives you his time trial lap and by the end of the lap you can't even see him anymore. :o ;D

Sorry you didn't enjoy our little tussle Sharky :( I was trying my best to put you under pressure but as you said, you only needed a half-decent corner exit and you were a couple of car lengths ahead for the next one. All my advantage was lost in the corners, I was having to brake so early and still had to back off!

Maybe I should have tried a move, there were couple of occasions where I could have tried something but there seemed little point risking both our races to potentially go from 12th to 11th :-\

Still, it was entirely my own fault I was in that position. I felt like such an idiot when I span, I somehow managed to drop to 1st mid-corner going from 8th to 12th. A rookie mistake >:( I'd been doing pretty well up that point, I had a really good and clean fight with Backo for a few laps and was still vaguely in contention with the 5th, 6th & 7th battle.

Hopefully that's got the mistakes out of the way for Endurance on Sunday though :)

Sorry to see the disco's on the grid prior to the race starting, that's terrible luck :(

Quite enjoyed my first race here after my pc probs on sunday. Was staying with Dave and Evert for about 2 laps, until my customary run wide into the gravel moment. Re-joined in about 23rd or 24th, with a little clean air, so tried to get my head down, but strangely, the warmer the tyres got, the less grip I seemed to have. ??? Got onto the rear-end of Psuedo after his spin, and just tried my damnedest to close the 1 sec gap  :fencing: (great driving mate, really consistant, giving me no chance :thumbup2:), but with my tyres going off quicker than I could live with, all I could do was maintain the gap, until another little off on the last but one lap lost me about 6 secs. Looking forward to Sunday now I know the track. Sorry for teamie SBG, and muchos gratsos to teamie Paul for another great result.

Rather enjoyed that, despite a rubbish performance in qualifying - what you can say to finishing 13th from 22nd?! :D

Pity about JR and all the start line problems - I just double-checked the Brno track files and there's no reason for 32 cars to be a problems, there are plenty of grid slots and the track lists a stated maximum of 36. I think we've no choice but to back the server down from 32 to 30 slots and see if that eases the problems. ???

The race was a blur, with battles a-plenty and a cold shower afterwards — I'm looking forward to wathcing the replay!

Original was 28 not 30, so don't we need to go back down to what the game officially supports? The server can definately manage 32, but this appears to be a game problem (if indeed it is a problem) so I think if we're going to drop the slots we need to drop them to what the game can do. I suspect the server could do 40+ if the game and people's connections could manage it.

I'll give up my full-time spot if you need volunteers.

The grid placement symptoms we saw last night are the classic ones seen when people have iffy connections - we've seen it before with the server running 28 slots. The question is, is it the server or is it a few clients with bad connections? ???

In my case, I don't know for sure :) However, I've not suffered real connection problems here, or anywhere else for that matter, before. And it worked fine on other servers last night. Mind you I've never raced with 31 others before. Also, is the timing problem (all I got was my own time although grid was formed up correctly) and dropping through tarmac a connection issue? Was last night first 32 driver turnout?

From that, I'd guess server issue but I know nothing of these things so bow down to you gents.

I think the word here is SNAP  ;D    I don't feel quite so annoyed now as the same problem that got me ahead of you put me back behind!

Qualification went ok and got a time that was about where I expected. Not sure exactly where I started with all the dropping through the floor, car in the lead but in the pits etc.. Unlucky to all those who had problems. Race got under way and I was behind Zacari and ahead of Dan. Car wasn't good for the first few laps, Dan got by in turn 1, Lap 1 after I ran wide with no front end grip at all! I quickly started to lose a bit of time to the two in front and was fending off Brian.

After a few laps the car got better and I was able to slowly ease away from Brian so decided to drive within the car and look after the tyres for the later stages. Zacari then had his moment and Dan and myself were both past. I then had to drive harder to keep ahead of Zacari and the gap to Dan stabilised a bit. With about 15 mins left I began to catch Dan and car still felt good and I was pulling away ever so slightly from Zacari. The gap come down to below 3 secs and with the time left felt sure I would be able to mount a challenge in the final laps but my G25 shifter then double shifted down to first in the tight left hairpin. Car was already slowed enough for the apex but the rears locked up and a slow half spin was inevitable. Lost the place to Zacari but would have taken third before the race so alls good.

Congrats to Dan for the win  

Leave that alien bussines alone, Shark!  :P Get down to normal people, I find it much less stressing.  ;D
It all goes down to a track - well, for me it does. I made a lot of laps here yesterday and when looking at timelaps I had 3 Legends whooping me down.  ;D  Good job guys, I'm glad for ya!  8)   What I'm saying is that I made a lot of less laps in say, Dubai or Birmingham (mmm, what a great track, btw  8) ) and I was driving with good results (usualy  ;) ), less sweat(r)ing and the tyre wear was normal. I had close to 30 tyre wear yesterday at the front  ::) and I was beaten like I'd be hauling in 5 tons of coal. And it was only 40 minutes and I came 10th which is - speaking of numbers - not a satisfactory result for my personal satisfaction.  :-\  Not trying to get above myself, just averaging things out.  :-*

As for beating others - once we get rid of Brno I will expect MJ to drive behind me, as it should be!  :winkiss:  

Bad luck with all the discos, guys. I must say I had none of the problems some described, not even with laptimes or some such.  :)  All in all it was grand to see so many cars on track.  8)

TT
  

There were definitely some synchronisation problems on the grid. On my client the countdown kept alternating between the 40s and 20s, waiting for either 9 or 4 cars to join. Once the race started everthing was rock soid, possibly after a couple people left with problems. We don't really know what the server limit is, suggest we try 30 and see if that is stable.

That could have gone better for me! Started 18th with I was reasonably happy with, esp seeing as how the times were all quite close. Had a CTD in quali which didn't help though and thats the first I've had in game. Unfortunately I got a little out of shape on the third last corner coming up the hill and I'm pretty sure I managed to correct it ok (maybe would've lost a place) but the frantic wheel turning required to keep the car on the road make my speaker and my webcam fall off my monitor!!!  >:( That was enought for me to loose concentration and drift off the track enough to spin out. I ended up about a cars width from the edge of the track on the exit of the corner and reckoned I was about to be hit so I tried to get out the way (on to the verge) as quick as possible but in the process I took out roadrunner so thought I'd better wait for him to rejoin first - sorry about that.

After that I had a couple of small spins trying to push a bit too much and one over enthusiastic out braking attempt, got a bit boring cause I was too far out the way.

Good race though, thanks to the organisers and congrats to the podium folk!

Just looking in the smiley box...it's empty. I guess TrueTom's used them all. ;)

Leave me be, Shark - 30 years I had to live without them.  ;D

TT

can you not synchronise the server? i was on stigs server the other day and when i joined the grid i cudn't see any car.

The server synchronised itself (message displayed up top saying so) and all was good in the world. :)....except a numpty took me out first corner but thats public racing....anyhooooo.......   ::)

I don't know of any way to manually force a server to sync with a client.

Well I really can't drive these GTR2 cars for toffee!  No major mistakes, just very slow.   :(   It's very lonely at the tail end, and frustrating seeing people I race closely with in GTL disappearing up the road at quite a rate.  And from the sound of it, mostly having a really good close battle.

Must persevere, back to driving and setup school for me so I can get into the thick of it.   ;D

The grid issues must be server not connection issues - my ISP is doing its best to give me a coronary, took me 15 minutes just to get into the lobby, but everything was fine once I joined, even with my dubious connection. 

I believe the "synchronising game" thing is all automated, it's definately not something you can initiate, it's just something that happens when certain conditions are met.

Be honest I like this track,it's quite close from my house in Slovakia.I didn't have any practice before with Mosler so I've been happy with 12'th position.The race I really enjoyed it,I had nice moment with Pobawa and other guys.I happy to finished 8'th with ANY FUEL  :o on finish line. ;D
Congratulation guys on podium!!!

Now that was what I call a race!! Best race i've had in GTR so far no doubt!
Really interesting battle with the 2 Mark's for the full duration and down to the line
- this will go down in history for me as "The Battle of St. Marks" ;)

Great driving chaps. And a great outbraking move into T2 McClean (near the frantic end)!! That was some move :o  - I think it's called "determination" lol

This was a classic, already been said :D,.  Traded places with Bara early on but he got me back on the downhill approach to T4 after he got a nice run out of T3.  Bara then closed right up to Jonzo with me following not to far behind and at T1 i think bara may have missed his braking spot and ran wide, he rejoined behind Backo (yeah i watched the replay :P) This allowed me concentrate on trying to attack Jonzo but i really couldnt get my nose along side anywhere and anytime i got a run Jonzo was awake and put his car in a good defensive position which was enough to put me off having a lunge.  But while all this was happening Bara had the head down because his car was getting bigger in my mirrors. 

Had a bit of a hairy moment when lapping a back marker at the last turn Jonzo went one way i went the other which  took me across the grass and i feared i would lose it but it worked out ok :yes:.

Later i managed to get alongside MJ and make a pass down into the long right hander before the uphill chicane but i then promptly made a mistake by running wide at T1 and so i left MJ a bit of room on exit because i thought he'd pounce at that but he stayed behind and i took up a defensive position heading towards T2 because Bara came from nowhere and was right on our tails.  Then at T2 i run wide again and that left me without an ideal line into T3 with Bara really close , so i take up another defensive position to try and hold Bara off thru T4.

I then got a small breather for next lap or so but Bara soon closed up again,  ran wide at T1 again and Bara sneaks past on the inside and as we approach T2 on the last lap i thought to myself feck it and had do or die lunge underbraking while trying my utmost not to take him out like ive done in the past (Monza GTs), but i didnt and somehow held on for the rest of the last lap.

Excellent race ;D great driving from both of ya!!

Congrats to Dan on a good win in the RS

PS.. sorry this is so late but i had to dash off last night in a hurry.

:-D  Good report - that's more than I could remember in the heat of the action!