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Practice 1:	20:00	(25 mins)
Qual 2:	20:25	(30 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.7.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Interlagos (v2.0, download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#msg54521))
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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Couple of req's

• On the lap entering the pits, could drivers signal they are going to pit by say, turning their lights on as they come onto the straight? It's a very dangerous pit lane entry as it's on the racing line, and it will at least let people behind know to move right. I nearly crashed in the GT2 race and Backo showed how dodgey it is! ;D
• Does anyone know where to engage the limiter on this track? In the test race I did it miles too early, and a bit late in yesterdays GT2 race......still can't get formation laps right!

Really hope it's wet for this one.  8)

Try driving backwards from the line with the limiter on and see where you are after 20 seconds...

I thought the formation lap went very well last night, perhaps the Silverstone report has made people go and remind themselves what the proper procedure is?

anyone got a reasonable data as to GTC times for this please?

I see GT2's were around 32..33's and GT3 was around 36's so I would assume perhaps 34's 35's ?

I was doing low 35's in the Fezza 360, before I realised it was a wet race I was practicing for ::), but will be in the Vertigo for this and as I have a very busy week so wont be able to do much praccy.

cheers  :)

It's right where the lights are as you enter the pits, which are after the fast kink into the pits and not long before the garages start. You can always tell where the line is if you try it using a non-cockpit view because for some reason the game forces you into the cockpit where the line is so it's easy to work out that way.

Hes talking about on the formation lap - the clue was in the question. :P

LOL, that will be the best formation lap ever, everybody follows FreQ into the pits  :lol: .

He meant for the startprocedure dummy  :wetfish: ;D

EDIT: Dave beat me to it ;D

(http://iepurilah.ap69.net/images/fuck_you.jpg)

 ;D ;)
Nice 1 Dave, that's a gd idea! I'll give it a try some time.

What do you lot think about switching lights on as you exit the last corner when you are about to pit? It's easy when team members are around you (teamspeak) but not when they are from other teams. It'd at least give a warning before you brake on the racing line.

You can see in my pitstop in the GT2 race, I had to go in very fast because I was worried Morten would not expect me pitting and could run into me! Not his fault at all, but I had no way of warning him or any others that I was about to slam on the brakes right in front of him....and nearly hit the pit wall ;D

You could just map 'Pit In' to one of your buttons in the same way most people use 'pit out'- if the other guy isn't running with in-car text then that's his problem!

Well...it's his problem until he runs into you, then it's your problem too....

Just a suggestion, gd pooint though, I'll map pit-in to my wheel.

Does anyone know how to map the ts button on the G25's shifter? I can only get my keyboard to register on it.

I use JoyToKey (http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm) to map the clutch pedal to a key for TeamSpeak so a button should be a doddle. :D

What sort of time should the GT1's get arond here?

Love to tell you Stew, but all the test race info seems to have dissapeared?  ???  I think a good race pace is in the 30's or 29's but don't quote me on it.

A few laps of pracci and the MC12 felt good and competitive (?) at mid 27 for a quali lap, all was good. Now see rain is forecast for Sunday and I'm now dreading it :'( I can see a good quali followed by a pants race again.

Hi,

just joined the forums and I would like to participate in your races. Do I need to register somewhere specifically for this race or just show up at the right time?

Most series you can just show up. GTC Sprint needs registration as it's the most popular championship.

looks like it might be wet!  Should be great fun 8)

Yay!

The weather was very changeable and odd during the practice race here.

I ended up on the completely wrong tyres, inter rears, and ended up crashing at very high speed into pit wall.

Hopefully that will not happen tonight!

Practice and a setup - what a difference eh!

With the rain in praccy I was a bit worried, but still doing okay.  As it dried my dry setup came into play and I got it at the right time - just before the rain came back.  Started 3rd in the GTC - and well happy I was given the shocker I had in the sprint.

I was looking at the weather, looking at the rain that was forecast ... and quietly cursing.  But then with about 30 seconds left it changed to brilliant sunshine for the forecast ... so on with the slicks.

Had some massive fights with Andy Eves and Reign Man - wicked stuff.  Am absolutely shattered now.

Had a few scarey moments - a dodgy button was causing problems for me looking right (and consequently behind) and I was losing sight of lapping GT1's.  Also after the pit I just had a mental lapse and slid accross the track - thankfully nothign came of that.

Having reinstalled GTR2 I need to edit the PLR file again.  I lost time in the pits as I couldn't request the stop, and then the AI tried to turn me into my slot ... and then I was lookign at the outside of the car getting its tyres changed.

Thankfully I made it out in one piece, and had a pretty decent run all things considered.  I had one half spin and a couple of on-the-grass moments, but really solid on the whole - well happy.

Grats Legends one and all - top results.

That was very hard work. Ran hard rears for the first time and it was a good job as they lasted well and never overheated, but the car was set up for rain and was a bit wishy washy in places.

Ran long on the first stint to see how the tyres held up; they did well but with the temperatures rising towards the end I left my stop as late as I dared hoping to double stint them, but it looked less and less like a good plan and in the end I'm glad I changed them as I couldn't have saved the time to the car in front and still have had the rubber to stay ahead.

Big sorry to both Pops who I ran into when I thought he was letting me lap him in Mergulho with Stewprovo breathing down my neck, and later Backo who I was battling with when I came out from my stop and ran into the back of him when I misjudged the combination of our braking points. :-[

I got past Backo properly at a second attempt, then later in the race as my rears passed 10 wear he pressed me very hard over the last few laps. Good stuff. ;D

Dubai next and I've never quite got with the track. Hmm.

Replay and Provisional Results posted

That was mostly hard with a little bit of fun.

I had real difficulties lapping some of the GTC drivers. One particular beauty where TT pulled to one side to let me pass and Bob decided to slow right were TT had left a gap and right where I was heading  :o. Slid in front of, and clipped, TT but hope i didn't cost you anything. Also totally misread Adam whilst he was trying to help me, real glad its didn't cost you anything. Felt so bad at touching you that I left Zacari through if thats any consolation.

Edging my bets, went with wet setup with slicks for race and whilst its was steady, the extra downforce etc left me slightly underpowered for race. Also left me with horrific oversteer when tyres got worn which was mildly exciting. Still had good fun with Backo, Gazza and Brian throughout first stint. Good stuff from you all :) Incidents with backmarkers, and ruddy controller deciding to double up-shift all second stint, meant I was quite relieved to finish.

Congrats to Freq, Adam and podium guys. Great to see five different cars in GT1 top 6 :thumbup1:

LOL - yeah, total misunderstanding I think.  I was just taking my normal line there, rather than trying to let you through.  Because of the problems I was having with my DFP (dodgy button) viewing right and behind was a problem .... which was just where you were!

It did make me laugh when you slowed up though ... "you're in a GT1 you daft b**ger, what are you waiting for!?!?!" was I think what I may have been heard to utter :D

I did only about 20mins practice before this race and it was right before race. It was 37 degree of somewhere around that.

Came to real practice session and it was wet. I did not have a hint of a set up.

Qualifying was hard. There seemed to be the odd damp patch somewhere that caught me out every lap. Got a better one in at the end to climb to 2nd.

I did not know what to do with the set up for the race. I ended up with tyre pressures too high, downforce too high and car set too soft.

Made a mistake right away. I started in first gear and wheelspinned as soon as I removed limiter. I changed gear but double snatched and bogged down. Luckily Paul did not make a good start either but Freq was gone.

I then made a mistake first lap and it let both Paul and SBG through.

Got past SBG after laps of chasing. You've got that MC12 going well.

I was catching Paul but decided I would pit earlier then usual. Paul stopped the lap after and came out of the pits just ahead.

Managed to get past Paul and made an effort to put the foot down.

Watching Freq, I thought he is not out of sight yet. Right enough when Freq called his pit stop I knew it was going to be close, but not as close as it was!

He normally stuffs me in the pits but this time I gained on him. It was side by side as he left the pits.

I had been out for a few laps and had warm tyres and brakes. I was very late on them and managed to get first.

Then for the next 30mins the pressure was relentless. I had to watch my lines carefully and had to be defensive.

Freq managed to pull of a maneuver round first chicane and this caught me by surprise. It ruined his line for the next bend and I got the power down early enough to get my nose alongside. I put it there to see if I could squeeze in and Freq went a little late on the brakes and I was back through.

My engine health was dropping all the time. It was clear I was underpowered as Freq was pulling back more time on the straights. I had thrashed my car too much.

Once Freq got past I knew I did not have any hope to get back in front and gave up and short shifted for the last 5 mins.

One thing about this race again that caught me out was the speed difference between the cars. It's frightening the speed difference between the cars.

Too often I was arriving into braking zones with either Freq, SBG or Paul right on my tail and we were travelling 30+MPH quicker than the GTC cars. It was frightening.

I made one of two passes I'm not happy about but the pressure from behind forced the issue. Sorry Psuedo. No contact but I was a little rash to say the least.

Not sure what happened with you Dave in the first corner. Freq and myself were catching quick and I got caught out as you seemed very early on the brakes. Again no contact, but I s**** myself.

I can't remember the last race I've been under so much pressure or had so much incident.

It was both great fun but downright scary at bits.

Well done to Freq, again!

Totally enjoyable race.....hard work though.

Had some great battles with a whole bunch of people....Pops, Gomes, Pete to name but some....great stuff and great driving (most of the time  ;))......glad of the bit of rain/dampness...it evened the performance of the gtc class quite a bit and it was great to enter battles with porka's and TVR's.

A little disapointed at some of the passing on the odd occasion.....us slower cars are in a race too and lose loads of time being bullied out of the way. people seem to think its their right to pass on apexes instead of waiting for a proper passing place  :) :-*

I've apologised for mine Psuedo.

It's just with the next car breathing down your neck and with the speed difference you always think you can probably make it.

I just don't think these cars go together too well.

The massive speed difference makes it easy to pass under acceleration or on the straights, but towards the end of the straight it's always a situation

Really really miffed!!  Practice and qualy was just a nightmare with the conditions as im awful in the wet but thankfully it dried out towards the end of qualy and i got up to 6th.  

Didnt know what setup to use for race but the weather suddenly forcast sunny so just went for my dry setup and it would of payed off as i think alot went with a slightly causious setup incase of rain, but faffing around and getting on the grid with a few seconds left i didnt notice that my engine health started in the low 80's and it started dropping everylap for some reason so i could never in the whole race actually go at my full pace which was really frustrating as i really think i could of had a 5th place as i was all over SBG even though i was having to lift off at the end of every straight. I even had a decent pitstop but i knew the engine was gunna go coz at half distance it was down to 65.

Grats to everyone.

P.s apolagies to a few GTC guys as i got confused when lapping (after you-no after you moments)

For the most part it was a great race. I went with the dry setup from the start looking at the weather just before the start of the race. 

I had a dodgy first lap which put me about three seconds behind Andy and Adam. I managed to catch them up after 3 or 4 laps and was gonna settle in behind the two, but Andy had a moment at the first turn which put him about 2 second behind us.

I was slightly better than Adam under breaking at the first turn and after running behind him for around 4/5 laps I decided I would have a go.  We happend to be on the Start/finish straight when I decided this.... no where near Adam but I knew I could gain on him toward the end of the lap, but he seemed to brake a bit earlier than usual and before I knew it, I was up the inside of him and taking the spot. ......Thanks ;D

From then on, with the help of the Lapping GT1's I was able to pull out and maintain a few second lead until my pit stop which I took with around 33 mins to go. At this point I had Andy closing the gap to me. I had a good stop, tyres only. 

After it all settled down I had increased my lead with the stop, but my car felt wrong. My rear was all over the place under breaking which resulted in me having a spin and a couple of slow laps.

This allowed Adam catch me up, he was pressuring me for a while and it was just a matter of time before he got past, but the car came back to me and I was able to keep a good pace up when, with around 7 mins to go,  I was forced off the road by a Lapping GT1.....which resulted in me hitting the inside wall of turn 1.  >:( .....Race over..front left puncture, I had to do a whole lap with a flat and pit .

Gutted. Was loving the race, it just a damn shame I wasn't able to fight it until the end.

I am glad I finished it at least  :D

Roll on the next one

RM


Ooh! lap record....cool  ;D

No probs Brian, not actually blaming anyone....I know it's difficult for both classes....just a little reminder to folk thats all....its been brilliant recently and I would like to try help keep it that way.  :angel:

My first race with you guys, and actually my first official league race, had a blast though it didn't go completely without incidents.

Qualified in last position, was left behind when I didn't realize the conditions were improving and everyone else was lapping faster and faster.

In the race I gained a few positions, and apparently got a bit too excited when I rear-ended Prof on lap 4. Felt really bad for screwing up his race and decided to punish myself with a drive-through. I think I bent my splitter in the incident as well and had to do my pit stop for repairs on the following lap.

With the fuel-loaded heavy car and tyres wearing out I had a hard time keeping up with the pace, let alone closing the gap, so I just tried to hang on and finish. The rest of the race was mostly an exercise in dodging lapping cars, at least got some good experience for future races. :)

Sorry for the incident Prof, I should have been more careful. I hope I can take part in the next race, really enjoyed your organized racing compared to the chaotic public servers.

Are those race repots not done anymore?

That would've been a great race had the game not dq'd my qualifying for rolling backwards across the grass! ::)  Should've been 5th but instead I had the unenviable task of being a GT1 behind a huge mass of GTCs :( and I knew then I'd be lucky to finish in the top-6.

First lap I had an absolute nightmare, the closing rate was insane and I was caught out a couple of times- especially when people seem to be leaving gaps, or just do emergancy stops on the racing line under braking, both of which happened on a couple of occasions over the race distance.

Once the initial 2 laps were over, I was over half a minute behind the leader, which was pretty bad.  Of a more pressing concern though was my oil temperature, which was 105 degrees :o :o and at that point I almost quit, but through short-shifting I managed to keep it to no more than 108.  I had a moment when Dave spun, and someone else spun in sympathy who I couldn't avoid, cost me a few seconds and some damage but I did make a couple of places.

Next was Mo and Pribero, though Mo was warping so much that the first time I caught up I had to veer out of the way as his car appeared to freeze briefly, that cost well over 10 seconds.  A few laps later I had another go, and eventually got passed a lap or 2 after being clouted into T1 by someone when we were filtering passed traffic, not sure what happened there.

As people pitted I ended up in the lead, until my own stop that took quite a while to repair the damage I'd received.  I came out in 6th, just behind SBG- though I slipped through a small gap when SBG and Adam had their moment.  Second lap out of the pits was the only lap I was able to run full-tilt which ended up the fastest lap of the race, I ended up catching Shark very quickly but getting past took a few laps anyway!  Once that was over I just sat back and conserved the engine, which was down to 77%, and had hit 110 degrees whilst behind Shark (hence my haste to get into clean air!)

Very relieved to finish 4th from 28th, grats to the podium!

One point, can the results export be corrected?  It's showing me starting in 5th when I was dq'd and started at the back.  Thanks :)

Gutted to miss out on the whole Interlagos experience....thanks to BT and their '5 working days' connection for outside ISP's  ::) >:(

sounds like i missed a corker too  :'(

am stuck on this lousy dial up for now


Congrats to the Legends boys flying the flag ! 8)

Idiot of the week award goes to... <drum roll>.... ME! I managed to start the race on soft wet tyres instead of soft slicks :-[ The net result was that I had to pit after 5 laps with melty tyres, switch to mediums and try to take care of them for the remaining 70 mins. I just about managed it but I think it cost me a shot at the podium.

Still, that's a great team result for us finishing 1st, 3rd & 4th. Congrats to Adam on his win, great drive 8)

I thought the GT's did an amazing job on a very difficult track, you guys were impeccably patient with me, many thanks.


No problem Dave, I was taking that corner very wide and it was only at the last second I thought you might see that as an invitation to pass, no harm done, I just bounced off you like a 2CV going into the side of a Sherman Tank!

I love that track, I hope we see it back again sometime in the future :)

You had troubles with the Lister engine too?

I just can't see to stop the engine health dropping in this car. I was trying to pace myself first half of the race and still lost a few percent.

In the second half I was pushing it harder with Freq right on my tail. The engine started dropping off very quickly.

I was left in the dilemma that I could race hard for the win and risk it, or back off and let Freq go. I choose the first until Freq made a move stick and I knew I did not have any chance of getting in front again.

My engine health was in the 60's even though I never went too hard with the revs and my radiator opening was at 4, the maximum for the lister.

I pretty sure if I did push it to chase Freq or I had to defend my lead for a few more laps the engine would not have lasted.

The engine blew up when I tried a wheelspin at the end.

My race ended before it started really. I led GTC qual for most of the time, and was just going out to try and leapfrog Andy in the last 5 minutes when the car started behaving very oddly - as soon as I went to 2nd gear the revs went to the red line almost instantaneously, and the other gears did exactly the same. I escaped to the garage and checked the setup to see if I'd some loaded something daft like an elise setup, but everything looked fine. Going out again didn't help either. I assumed I'd found a bug (I already had some screen corruption so this wasn't totally unexpected) and had to wait to see if the new session would clear it. As soon as we moved off on the pace lap I knew it hadn't, so I pulled over and escaped out :(

With nothing better to do I watched the race for a while, and about 10 mins in I idly glanced at the pedals  - why the @%$^ was the clutch pedal right to the floor? A couple of minutes of scrabbling around under the desk provided the answer: the bar which anchors all three springs on my Speed 7s had worked its way loose and slid out from the clutch pedal so that gravity was able to press the clutch on its own. Easily fixed, but rather frustrating that I didn't realise earlier, as all I needed to do was map the clutch to a button  ::)

I can't be too hard on the Speed 7s though. That must be the first time they've let me down in five and a half years of use, and they didn't break, just came loose. It' a shame to miss another race, but it was fun watching some of the battles  :)

Congrats to Freq and Adam, and hard luck to Reign Man who had it inthe bag until his unfortunate GT1 contact  :(

Lower revs by 200 or something. Not sure if that also helps with autoclutch, but it helps me keep engines alive, and I don't really need those last 200 revs anyway, as I never redline on a straight. I only need that for the upshifts which redline briefly due to no clutching.

I was very rarely giving it everything, I was shifting early enough.

People always talk about the Lambo engine being weak, but I can go 80mins giving it big revs and only lose a few percent. I will need to work out this lister's engine.

The only problem I had was lowering the vent to 2 from 3 because it was wet, and my engine was running at 80 in quali- so it was purely self-inflicted!  This is the first time I've ever had the Lister drop more than 5% health over 80 mins.  You must have been doing something, I finished on 76% health despite my engine temp never being lower than 100!!!  I can only assume you were maybe hitting the limiter when downshifting?

I always run with full revs with zero issues, as long as the vent is open to keep the car under 100 degrees it's fine- unless you use manual clutch and abuse the engine like JR ::) :P

:P. I always run full revs as well, but for longer that 80 minutes I drop some revs, because it will save the engine for me and I don't use those revs anyway. So even with lower maximum revs, I'm not slower than with full.

Most fun race yet I think, I do like this track.

Great driving Adam, I forgot how many times we passed each other, the side by side stuff was very cool.

Pleased to get pole, took me ages to put a good lap in but I knew I could do it.

I had started to pull out a small lead but I spotted some good looking Brazilian ladies in the grandstand, missed my braking spot for turn one, then bounced off the barrier in the Senna S.

I made loads of errors, so iam very pleased to get second.

Bad luck Reign Man.

thanks and well done all.

No problem JPV look forward to racing you again soon. Pity a potential battle with some well matched Vertigos will have to wait until next time  ;)

Glad you had a good time JPV, it's always nice to see new faces :)

I should have had 4th or 5th place in this one, but threw it away with my own mistakes. Still 6th from 9th is ok I guess after my short lived Silverstone experience.

Had some battles along the way, probably most with H@L9000. Clean stuff, thanks.

I must give the award for "best job at putting the guy in front off" to Zacari though as he did a stellar job at making me lose sight of the braking marker as he weaved spectacularly around behind me when trying to get by down the main straight. Nicely done, exactly how I normally like to stun those Legends off into the gravel. ;D If only that were the only time I screwed up I would have had 5th, but alas it wasn't my night as I let SBG get by after another mistake and then had to fend off H@9000 a few times after more silly mistakes.

All I can say is thank god it didn't rain for the race cause no matter what I did to the car in qually/practice I couldn't get round a lap in the rain without spinning. If it had been raining at the start I would have quit so that I didn't crash into anyone. The last time I was that unable to drive a car was, well I can't remember ever having that much trouble! :o

Had to run medium front and hard rears the temperatures were so bad here too. Wear was not a problem on that combo though. I had used about 16/17 wear on my right rear (the worst worn) come the half time pit stop so I still had plenty of grip. Had no problems with the engine. Started at 97% and finished at 93% after revving the nuts off it in the second half of the race. Full 5 vent but no rev drop in the setup. Oil/water temps never got about 91. Most of the time around 83 degrees.

Aah yes, worked a little too well that did!  I was hoping for you to just run wide, I'd tried the lap before to get past on the outside and I couldn't make it stick, side-by-side through the Senna S was pretty cool 8) I think my engine health dropped 1% every lap I tried getting past it was overheating so much!

My report:

Nice weather combo, but it seems this game still prefers sun, or is it the server setting. Would be nice with a light shower in the middle of the race or something.

Started with soft slicks, which worked nicely, but had to pit early due to wear. Then I chose mediums at the rear and soft at the front (bad decision) because I wasn't sure if the damp condition would stay or go, and it went away. With a hot dry track I had to make a second stop.

Was nice to finally try to pass someone. And I had Prof in sight and even closed a bit before I had to make my final stop. Drove second to last after that, with one driver 40 sec behind and one 40 sec in front, so that was not too fun. Still 'half' the skill is to finish, and I did.

I've set your starting position to 28th - you can see it in the tooltip over the qualifying position.

Thanks Dave :)

Forgot to post on this!

Started off perfectly and pulled a few seconds in the first few laps, and then struggled to stretch it further once it hit about 6 seconds. Eventually managed to get it up to 12 seconds before making a silly mistake behind Adam and spun off backwards onto the grass, losing me 10 seconds  :'(

Got back on it and pushed to try to get the gap up a bit more, and saw everyone had pitted already. Stayed out for a few laps and then pitted myself - and once again overfilled at the stop  ::)  Ended the race with just under 20l left  :cursing:

Exited the pits and was neck and neck with Brian and he got past with his hot tyres, then we just went hammer and tongs until the end of the race. Some great defending and some good exit speed made it real difficult to close up enough on the straight, and tried to go round the outside into T1 a couple of times. It seemed to be the only place I was actually faster.

Shame you had to back off, Carl had trouble too but his was self-induced ;)

Real good, close racing peeps. Roll on (ughhh) Dubai!  :P