SimRacing.org.uk

UKGTR => UKGTR Races => Topic started by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 18, 2008, 04:49:33 PM +0000



Title: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 18, 2008, 04:49:33 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(25 mins)
Qual 2:20:25(30 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.7.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Dubai GP
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Championship standings can be found on the series page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=71&theme=3).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on February 25, 2008, 06:52:45 PM +0000
I think I'm going to go back to the 911 from the M3 from now on in.

The M3 is quick but I just don't find it as much fun to drive as the 911.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 28, 2008, 09:38:31 AM +0000
Nice track this :) Any of you chaps getting close to Nevski's lap record? I'm either way off the pace or the 811 is going to get mullered here (about time some might say ;)).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on February 28, 2008, 11:58:16 AM +0000
Nice track this :) Any of you chaps getting close to Nevski's lap record? I'm either way off the pace or the 811 is going to get mullered here (about time some might say ;)).

Don't know about the 811, but I've just realised how far I'm off the pace in the GT2 class. That is a big gap for some reason


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: psuedo on February 28, 2008, 02:12:45 PM +0000
not had much time to praccy yet....but I'm a bit off that mark Ian....I remember my first ever race at srou in a viper was at Dubai, qualified pole (in class) but got eaten alive in race only managing 2:06's.....bit better at both setups and hopefully driving now....so I may do better this time.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: spanner on February 28, 2008, 04:14:37 PM +0000
My god, are those the times ::)

I may not be doing all the races but i've still been pracising for them. Mostly with this one its been trying to learn the layout and seeing if another gt2 would be better than the M3gtr, which wasnt hard. I'll happily admit i'm rubbish but didnt think i'd be that far off! Whats the average times?

After some practise earlier in the week i dont think i'll be running this weekend or in the sprint next week, I hadn't been feeling well earlier in the week and though i'd not gone to work was starting to feel better until yesterday when i had a strange turn at the doctors.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: psuedo on February 29, 2008, 01:54:46 PM +0000
as far as the above lap record goes, the viper cc was -10 kg when they were set and is +10 kg now. so I dont think many will be getting too near it carrying the extra 20 kg.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on February 29, 2008, 04:39:04 PM +0000
Set to stick with 20kg for this one coss I hate Dubai....if in practise I'm faster, I'll crank it up  8)

Wonder what the weather will do.....would be interesting if it gets really hot...I run hards on the rear in my normal setup so super hot temps will screw me up big time!

EDIT: 1:58.7? Great! Only 2 seconds off that then! ;D  :-X


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Mark J on February 29, 2008, 05:08:41 PM +0000
didnt it get to +35-40 degrees last time we raced here?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Ted on March 02, 2008, 08:56:27 AM +0000
Hopefully I will be joining you guys tonight (if the kids are asleep in time  ;)) - it will be my first league race so I apologise in advance for any mistakes I may make  :P

Looking forward to it though... 

Ted


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2008, 05:07:23 PM +0000
Any of you chaps getting close to Nevski's lap record? I'm either way off the pace or the 811 is going to get mullered here (about time some might say ;)).

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Dare I say it that I'm one of the faster Viper CC drivers and I'm slower in qualifying trim now than I was in race trim for that previous race and nowhere near Nevs time. I guess with most of the faster drivers in 911 Cups that pure lap speed might be close, but with the amount of time the 911 Cup can make in the pits it'll be hard to get a Viper CC on the podium.

Managed to do a few practice laps earlier today with some pain, but not too bad so I should be back for this race. Will give it a go tonight and see how it goes. The Viper CC isn't really the car to drive when you don't want to do much wheel sawing, but there you go, could be worse as I assuming rain is unlikely! :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 02, 2008, 05:11:40 PM +0000
I had a practice earlier. My car feels nice and stable and I don't think I'm making any mistakes of any note, yet i'm miles off the lap record pace.       I can only hope the high temperatures when all the records were set made the track very sticky or I'm in trouble.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Paul968 on March 02, 2008, 06:38:36 PM +0000
Offline in TT mode I can beat Nevs time in the Viper - best of 2.01.8, which is a good second faster than the 911. Come the race though I doubt the Vipers will have the same speed advantage because they will be running fuel heavy in the second half and their tyres will probably go off earlier.

Why are you struggling Simon?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2008, 06:58:31 PM +0000
Why are you struggling Simon?

Not struggling with the car in general, setup feels ok (for the Viper :laugh:), so should be good for reasonable race pace. My TT time is 1.6 seconds slower than yours Paul, which give or take up to 0.5 seconds (something that a driver can find on a really good lap) is a reasonable reflection of your superior skill to mine. I would not expect to get that TT time at the event though because one can never go as fast at the event because the conditions aren't as good as in TT mode.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Paul968 on March 02, 2008, 07:15:18 PM +0000
I meant physically - you mentioned you were in pain.

As for relative ability, I get the impression GTR hasn't got your attention as much as it used to, so it's no great surprise to see your times slip a bit. We always seemed pretty evenly matched  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Jeffrey on March 02, 2008, 07:19:55 PM +0000
I meant physically - you mentioned you were in pain.

I've been told Simon had a very stubborn moment  ;D. You're not so young anymore Simon, can't jump as high anymore :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2008, 08:05:49 PM +0000
I meant physically - you mentioned you were in pain.

I badly wrenched by shoulder/neck about 10 days ago trying to get into the loft without a ladder (d'oh!). That was getting better earlier this week and I was even able to do last weeks Sunday race, but then on Tuesday I was in agony again for some reason, Wednesday wasn't much better and then it's gradually got better again. Still in pain round the base of my neck and shoulder so sudden movements are a no-no and sitting in one position gets me stiff again so driving for 80 minutes is going to hurt I suspect. I need to keep relaxed so no weaving around in my mirrors making me stressed and nervous!! :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: pribeiro on March 02, 2008, 09:44:51 PM +0000
I meant physically - you mentioned you were in pain.

I badly wrenched by shoulder/neck about 10 days ago trying to get into the loft without a ladder (d'oh!). That was getting better earlier this week and I was even able to do last weeks Sunday race, but then on Tuesday I was in agony again for some reason, Wednesday wasn't much better and then it's gradually got better again. Still in pain round the base of my neck and shoulder so sudden movements are a no-no and sitting in one position gets me stiff again so driving for 80 minutes is going to hurt I suspect. I need to keep relaxed so no weaving around in my mirrors making me stressed and nervous!! :P

I wish you get better soon, Simon.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: pribeiro on March 02, 2008, 10:01:13 PM +0000
Qualified 5th, made my best start ever and reach 1st corner in 1st (with some turbo help).
3rd lap, Mark breaked better and overtook me at 4th or 5th corner (i didnt try to hold position,
because i didnt want to put in jeopardy a 120mnts race on minute 6) i fall into 2nd position.
I have to say that Mark manouvre was fair and clean.
But....then, i was hit hard and i spun, fall into 8th.
After that hit, i began to have some difficulty to turn right, due to this falling places,
i tried hard, but i only got a tire wear more intense (cool fight there Gomes)  ;)
People in front start to pit, i was in 4th triyng very hard, but i was hit again,
and honestly i quit, because i´m a bit tired of beeing hit race after race.
Can you please accept that each of us, has a different driving stile, therefore (because of
different cars also) we have different breaking points and sometimes different racing lines?
If someone need my spot on lower endurance championship, please tell me, and i give it.
Good driving with the default setup Gomes.  :)
Hope you all had fun.
By the way, i know and i believe that those incidents are not intentional.
But if the car in front of me is slower, i dont have the right to force the pass because of that,
if he is holding the position fairly.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 02, 2008, 10:29:15 PM +0000
B*ll*cks  :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 02, 2008, 10:38:11 PM +0000
What a race!

I lost two places right away at the start. I think Freq forgot to go and Mark and PR were off.

There was loads of tussles and people running wide from the off. Positions changing every second corner.

Zacari passed me and then everyone started to trip over one another. Zacari's car came across me and we had some contact, Not my fault but sorry anyway.

As the race wore on I was 3rd right behind Freq at pit stops. I was certain I could jump him at pits.

I overshot my bay and lost a few seconds but thought I would be ok. NO Freq pulled out 8 seconds.

Made a daft mistake lapping Dave. I put tyres wide and lost the car backwards into barrier.

Freq and Mark were well gone. I put my foot down and had TT for company again.

We were both catching Freq and Mark all the time but race was too short.

That was good fun, well done Mark and Simon. Unlucky Freq what a time to happen.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Reign Man on March 02, 2008, 10:39:11 PM +0000
Another good race for me....until the end.

Qualified second behind Simon which i was quite pleased about :D

Start was a bit weird no sooner had I piut the limiter on.... simon was dashing up the road at full tilt. After a few laps simon made a mistake giving me GT3 lead and I managed to stay there until simon made his stop. I Decided to pit in on the next lap as I knew that simon would be out of the pits sharpish and I wanted to minimise any loss in time.

Had a good stop managing to stay ahead of SBG as he came out of the pits. Simon was only 3 or 4 seconds behind. Simon got past SBG and was pressuring me...I cracked and went wide and nearley spun as a came back onto the track.

SBG was a few seconds up the road and with the help of traffic I was in a position to pass him. I passed him once and went wide .Doh!

Thats when I noticed that i might not have enough fuel to finish, I slowed down and tried to chance it...it didn't work, I ran out of fuel on the last lap :(

Never mind :D It was a lot of fun.

RM


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: psuedo on March 02, 2008, 10:42:05 PM +0000
I feel sorry for Simon....being in pain b4 it began....coz I'm certainly in pain after it. ::) That was just damn hard work fighting the Viper all race.

Setup was ok...done loads of laps with it and felt fine....I did (once again) forget to alter the tyres to better suit the temperatures though, which made the car a little unpredictable to say the least.

had a good couple of semi=battles with [email protected] he was miles faster in the end.

New fuel was gonna be tight...had 20+ secs on the cars behind so took it very very easy for the last few laps...but it didnt work....ran out anyway...100yds before the finish line....but still a lap to do ::)

Was going to dart in for a quick splash....but....cruising along upto the pit entry JPV (or was it API?...always get mixed up with them :laugh:)...bumped me and pushed me well past the pit entry point....lol...thought better than going the wrong way up track so managed to coast in neutral to the line to finish the lap at least.....

Grats winners and podiums


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 02, 2008, 10:42:18 PM +0000
That was a tough one, pretty close throughout with Reign Man and then after the stops the two Kerbies of SBG and Paul.

After seeing my early lead get taken by Reign Man as I ran into a GT2 that had spun in the middle of the road (what was going on in the first 30 mins in GT2, quite a few having bad races!?) I desperately needed to pit after pushing really hard at the end of the first stint. Was surprised to have come out of the pits still in a competitive position after having to get damaged repaired and putting in a lot of fuel. With the reasonable position in mind I didn't push, conserved my tyres and kept a close eye on my engine temp. After a few laps it was clear I needed to go a little bit faster to catch up with SBG. Once he was dispatched I had to start pushing reasonably hard again, but without shredding my tyres. Caught up to Reign Man and pressured him into a mistake going into the back straight. After that it was plain sailing.

Good to win that, but with about 10 minutes to go I was really wishing the race was over already and struggling physically.

Shame about FreQ's disco with less than a lap to go wasn't it? He sounded like he was having a great time battling for the lead with Mark. Well done Mark on your win.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: jpv on March 02, 2008, 10:45:12 PM +0000
Well that was a wild ride. Started in the last position with my GT3 Cup Porsche. I was initially keeping up with the last few cars, but soon started to lose focus and was all over the place. Running 10 secs behind after the first stint. Tyres were starting to wear out and I pitted in on lap 17.

During the pit stops I somehow gained that 10 secs and was right behind Ade. We raced for a few laps a couple of seconds apart, but I couldn't quite close the gap. At this point we were getting lapping cars behind. The GT2's were easy to let through, but the lead cars of GT3 weren't that much faster, and it wasn't easy to let them by. At one point I was racing with the guy in front, had another closing in from the back and one of the lead GT3's lapping together with a GT2 lapping for second or third time! Got really confusing at times.

Right at the end another moment of confusion, was suddenly rapidly closing up with Psuedo. Thought he had wounded his car and tried maintain his position, I was thinking we were on the last lap. In the second to last corner he was very slow and I pushed a bit too hard and knocked him wide. Obviously my fault, and tried of course to give the place back. Little did I know he had run out of fuel and we were crawling through the last corner, he stopping just short of the finish line. At this point I noticed the race wasn't over and ran one more lap. Sorry for the trouble, if you only had signalled that you were pitting in!

Fun and eventful race anyhow, thanks and congratulations to the winners!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: psuedo on March 02, 2008, 10:48:27 PM +0000
Quote
Sorry for the trouble, if you only had signalled that you were pitting in!

No problem mate...you would have taken the place anyway even if I did manage to pit....I found it quite funny actually :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Zacari on March 02, 2008, 10:49:15 PM +0000
But....then, i was hit hard and i spun, fall into 8th.

Apologies for that, to both you and Brian (and Joss if he was close enough to get caught in it), totally my cock-up.  I had a different line in that corner than anyone else and I was caught out by how different the other GT2's braking points were :( it wasn't the only time I cocked up that corner ::) :(

The whole race was a nightmare from the moment I took off my limiter!  The Ferrari around here is a total horror to drive, I must have spun 4 or 5 times in total which is very rare for me.

Quali was ok, 4th I think, then the start- I was following the guy infront as normal and before I'd even turned off my limiter I was overtaken which was more than a little annoying!  For the next 4 laps I was having to creep everywhere, the differences in the way I was driving the first half of the lap made it totally impossible to follow anyone closely- and as soon as I tried a more normal racing line the ferrari would be even more of a handful :(

After waiting for Prib to get back going (which wasn't hard, I was pointing the wrong way), I was down in about 12th.  Got hit a few laps after that and from then on nothing went right- I'd be minding my own business and suddenly I'd get armfulls of oversteer.  Trying to pass anyone was a complete lottery, be it for position or lapping.  Nothing against any of the GT3 cars it was just one of those days!  I even managed to wrench my entire wheel off the desk when coming up to lap Dave's Viper, which must have looked very odd :D and I didn't realise until I exited the game that my mic wasn't selected, so all those 'thanks' over TS went unheard :-[ so thanks :-* ;D ended up a very undeserved 4th with 0.6L fuel :o

Looked like a great battle up the front, what a horrible time to get a disco! :( grats to Mark and the podium, hopefully the next race in the TVR will be better round here- I do like the track just not in that Ferrari!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: picnic on March 02, 2008, 10:53:17 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results are available


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 02, 2008, 11:01:35 PM +0000
Made a daft mistake lapping Dave. I put tyres wide and lost the car backwards into barrier.

Not as daft as me running off in sympathy. ::)

I have to thank Shark for his setup - I couldn't go quick with it in qualifying and set my time with my own setup, but that was too extreme for the race so I used his setup and hards all round.

Blasted by SbG at the start using the mighty V10, despite hesitating when he seemed to take a very long time coming off the limiter. Set off after Paul's 811 and after a few laps I was able to get alongside on the front straight, only for him to repass as I struggled to get the car stopped into turn 1.

And repeat. :D

Finally, at the third time of asking I got a great run onto the back straight and was able to make a pass stick. Pulled out 2 or 3 seconds of gap but couldn't make any more headway with my tyres going off.

Had to pit two laps later than scheduled as all the boxes were in use and was amazed to come out not far behind Paul despite taking on 90 litres of fuel (about 15 too many as it turned out). I have to say it was really hard work letting GT2 cars by in the VCC, only the M3 is faster in a straight line and the only places I could let them by without losing loads of time were in the turns.

My personal experience with the cars I was lapping were that they were very good at moving out of the way when needed and not interfering with my attempts to catch Paul, SbG and RM. But I sometimes wonder if being Chief Mod has an effect on people on the track. :laugh: :angel:

Had one terrifying moment when a VCC I was about to lap froze on the main straight with me too close behind to avoid, and I ran right through it, sending it skywards but luckily doing me no damage at all.

Continued to push had and the gap to Paul was coming down, but between letting the leaders by and my tyres wearing it didn't look like I stood any chance of catching them before the end of the race, so you can imagine my surprised and delight to see Paul and RM suddenly much closer, and then Paul going off and RM waiting for him allowing me to slip through to pinch a podium place on the last lap! ;D

SbG was off too in the nasty tightening left hander but I wasn't quite close enough to capitalise and had to settle for the bottom step of the rostrum in GT3.

I even managed to wrench my entire wheel off the desk when coming up to lap Dave's Viper, which must have looked very odd :D and I didn't realise until I exited the game that my mic wasn't selected, so all those 'thanks' over TS went unheard :-[ so thanks :-*

I had to apologise for holding you up so badly as I was really trying very hard to catch the cars ahead. Then you just vanished. ??? Now I know why!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 02, 2008, 11:13:11 PM +0000
Sorry about that Dave. It was one of many mistakes I made.      I don't actually recall a race with so many errors by drivers. Very exciting though     


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Ted on March 02, 2008, 11:31:33 PM +0000
Thoroughly enjoyed that - managed to acheive both my goals for my first race:

1)Finish
2)Not stop anyone else from finishing!

Shocking pit stop, must practice those...  Still, made for an exciting last few laps catching JPV and Ade - good race guys, see you next time


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 02, 2008, 11:47:52 PM +0000
Well done Ted. I'm sure you will find the more you are involved the faster you will get. Also cut out mistakes and work out pit stops.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Paul968 on March 02, 2008, 11:51:24 PM +0000
Despite my frustration at throwing away a podium, that was a highly exciting race with several drivers in with a shot of the win. Personally I pushed a bit too hard in the first stint and ended up spinning twice, the 2nd being quite costly because I lost my bearings and spent ages faffing around trying to rejoin safely. Had a cracking little battle with Dave's Viper early on, but the spins put me right in the middle of the vipers after the pitstops. Simon came out just ahead and drove off into the distance, but Dave was some way back and not closing fast. Near the end Reign Man dropped back and I could see a chance to snatch 3rd as the last lap started. He suddenly slowed into the chicane at the end of the first sector and I nipped by, not knowing what the problem was. I was busy trying to work out what was happening when I stupidly went too wide at the long left onto the straight and had another slow spin, letting RM and Dave past, only to see RM grind to a halt and give the place back. 4th isn't so bad on a Viper friendly track, but without all those mistakes it might have been so different.

Congrats to Simon on a good win despite the pain, to Mark on the GT2 win and to SBG for another solid drive for the Kerbies. When the high temps didn't materialise it was always going to be a real fight in the cup car and that is exactly how it turned out. Not the best for lapping though, as I encountered hesitant lappers, hard to lap backmarkers and got hit up the exhaust all in the same race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 02, 2008, 11:59:13 PM +0000
I lost two places right away at the start. I think Freq forgot to go and Mark and PR were off.

That was pretty embarrassing. I was looking behind to make sure everyone was lined up properly and when I looked back, I realised I'd already passed the s/f line. Screwed my and your start up and gifted a good start to the others behind....doh... :-X

Was surprised with pole (really :laugh:) because I hate this track. At the start I tried to stay close but thought a few people around me were faster, so just tried to stay out of trouble. Bad luck to Zacari and Ribs.....was a massive group of us at the time  :-\
Got lucky after a while and got in front of Kerr and stayed there with him breathing down my neck until we pitted...on exactly the same lap! ;D
Was fully expecting him to exit before me, so was shocked to beat him out and....extend my lead  ??? What are you doing wrong!  :D

Had closed the gap to Mark as well, but couldn't close up on the track. Was prepared to settle for 2nd as he'd been fast all race, but then somehow ended up on his ass for the last 30 mins of the race.......and it was soooo much fun :D

We were soooo close for the whole time, and swapped positions at least 4 or 5 times, including one great double overtake at the last corner!  8) 8) 8)  Was annoying my teamies by screaming into the mic about how fun it was ;D

Looked like it was going to be a grandstand finish over the last 3 corners......so 3/4 round the last lap............my PC screen went blank and then died  :scared: :cursing: :blink: :taz: :taz: :death: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

Didn't even say anything - just got up in disgust, got a drink and then got on with some uni work. I was too angry to be angry, if that makes sense. My motherboard has lost it's CMOS settings twice today, and 4 times over the last 2 weeks. Either the 5 month old mobo is dying, or the battery is dead in it. Not impressed Asus.

On the bright side, it was an intense race to start and a fantastic last half. I remember saying I don't care if I come second, coss this race has been awesome, and really you were faster overall, so brilliant win Mark ;D Glad to see you didn't have any problems being right behind my stupid frozen car :P

Great fighting with Brian, Ribs, Backo and TT as well. Real close stuff round here.  8)  Nice one Super Gymer Bros on the 1-3 in GT3 ;D

Oh well.....6 points I suppose  ::)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on March 03, 2008, 12:10:11 AM +0000
Best race this season that :)

Dreading coming off limiter at start and duly got swamped by ruddy Vipers. Accepted that and got on with battling Paul who was realistically the only one on the same pace. Really jealous when he and Dave were duking it out, looked like great fun, but that held him just enough for me to get in touch. Then spent five or so laps just hanging on to Paul which was like an extended TT, its just so much easier to go fast when you follow someone who knows what they are doing. Eventually his extra ballast made him push too hard and I was all alone up to pit.


Stayed out to long really, as lap times dropped by 1-2 seconds but still jumped Simon with Reign Man leading. Pushed really hard with Simon in close attendance and improved my fastest lap three times on the trot but he wast still gaining :o. Think I put in my fastest lap when he eventually overtook me. He then caught RM who slipped into my clutches, good stuff for 3,4 laps then dropped him. Then held up for a long time by a backmarker (just one of those things) and he was right on me again. Great fun :)

Running low on gas had to cruise to finish, with final slip that made gap to Dave a little too close. Delighted with second :)

Grats to Simon for the hard earned win, Dave and commiserations to our Paul who deserved better. Its only your choice to take ballast that made mine and Daves race, so cheers Simon and Paul  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 03, 2008, 12:21:31 AM +0000
I over shot my pit tonight Freq. I also added a little bit too much fuel as I found too often I use more in the second half of race for some reason. I did not think it was that bad not to jump your bmw though.  If I had not made so many stupid mistakes tonight I would have been up with you and Mark. I was catching all the time. TT was never far away either.            Thought you would have the starts worked out by now Freq, you've had enough pole positions lately! I had to back off and Mark jumped me. PR also went through but think he would have been ahead anyway since he was very keen at the start.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Truetom on March 03, 2008, 07:34:39 AM +0000
What a bummer, Freq.  :no:

Qualified 7th, though I was 1 sec off my pb. Left it at that as I wanted to hone my race setup. I did it in the 2nd part of the quali session and it looks like it was the right decission.
Race started ok, was funny to see a trail of 6,7 cars in front. Waited for a confusion which must come with a close trail like this. After some laps I came into 4th position and waited for an outcome of Freq/Kerr duel. Both being faster then me, their struggle enabled me to stay close but even with close racing they weren't making big mistakes so I couldn't gain any positions. Great driving, guys.  8)
After they went to pit I stayed 2 or 3 laps longer but saw I was losing too much time so I also went to pit. Came out about 10 sec behind Kerr and their close racing resulted in slower driving at first and I could close the gap again. Then they must have had a touch, Kerr went out but was staying 1-2 seconds in front of me the whole time. I saw our gap to MarkMc and Freq was diminishing but we would need ten more minutes to close it. Would be a grand finish of four cars struggle for the win.  :o 
Bad luck, Freq. Grats to MarkMc, Shark and the rest of the podiums. GT3s were superb.  :thumbup1:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 03, 2008, 08:39:21 AM +0000
If Paul hadn't had his two spins I think it would have been close for the GT3 win. The track favours the Viper CC and I was pleased that despite being a lot slower than the last race we had here in GT3s the Viper was still faster than the Cup which it needed to be with the pit stops in mind.

Nice to see the extra point (wow a whole point ;) :laugh:) for taking driver ballast, I see that win has put me in third. Would love to see a new skin pack so I can drive the Team Shark Viper CC that I did a while ago. ;) ;)

Anderstorp and Barcelona should be quite good for the Viper CC, with Donington most definately being good for the Cup and rubbish for the Viper CC. However, what is the next race, as it says Unknown in the calendar?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on March 03, 2008, 10:17:42 AM +0000
However, what is the next race, as it says Unknown in the calendar?

Is it Mugello? :) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 03, 2008, 10:17:59 AM +0000
However, what is the next race, as it says Unknown in the calendar?

Depends on the outcome of the Mugello test... ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Jure on March 03, 2008, 10:28:17 AM +0000
Right. My first outing in 911, ever!  ;D Not a bad car to race in, it's great to drive until something goes wrong which turns it into a handful of German engineering going it's own stubborn pendulum effect way. I still think it would be nice if ze engineers put ze engine in ze right place. Anywhere but behind rear axle would be nice (OK, OK, above it from 996 onwards, calm down MJ :P ).  ::)

Anyway, cool race. I put in a race setup medium-medium low fuel "just set a reasonable time then go to toilet and smoke a big fat one" quali "effort".. erm... got 8th place, 1/100th behind TT, not bad considering his mileage in RSR. :P

Race: opted for medium-medium & 63L of fuel. Race started in a classic Jure@SROU way, was enjoying view of battles in front - "he's gonna hit him... don't hit him, don't hit him... aaah, he didn't hit him, good!" only to outbrake myself at the end of back straight resulting in semi spin right back on the track clipping Jan (which sent me in a real spin, lol). Sorry mate, at least you managed to continue, I had to wait for cars to go by (and spin the car into the right direction beforehand, argh).

Chase was on again and after dispatching with lower class cars (which were insanely fast down the straight, I was on wing 8 ), Zacari (joined us after his off track excursion), Jan and myself had a nice little battle with Jan having obvious understeer problems (right?! your car felt... funny...) so Zacari and I were all over him, then he spun... again. But so did Zac and I, repeatedly, one of the mutual spins being courtesy of yours truly (gave Zac a nudge braking into last corner, completely my fault, Zac came in a bit too slow while I was setting up a good exit... eh.).

Before pit window started we were running in 9th, 10th and 11th. I stayed out the longest (23 laps, I think, perhaps 24), pitted while in the lead and came out in 9th. My girlfriend/race engineer had a strike of genius and proposed soft-soft combo. Excellent decision, medium-medium in 1st stint were running way too cold and only working well if pushing like crazy. Reason being we both anticipated rise in track and air temperatures (based on FP1 and Q weather) so I let some air out of the tyres. Same goes for radiator @ 3. It turned out there was no need for both tweaks, but capitalised on it by choosing soft-soft option, they were perfect (albeit a bit too hot at rear left, but manageable, as long as they stayed on 200kPa I was happy). Lost few seconds for aero repairs but who cares, pit time said 49s.

Man was I flying on softs, constant low 2.00s, great stuff (had clear track to begin with), chased down Peter Allnutt and Gomes Silva (they both spun right in front of me @ same part of the track, sigh) then settled in 6th with Zacari too far to catch. Finished fifth thanks to Asus.  :-\

@FreQ: just a game mate. You know you had it. ;)


Question: upper endurance ---> any chance of using RSR setup on RS or what?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: stnasky on March 03, 2008, 03:34:18 PM +0000
Superb race there last night.   Guessed id have 2nd at T1 Lap 1 but a brief look in the mirror i saw PRibero blasting up the inside to take 1st :blink:, tucked up behind him and thought id have 2nd as Feq was left up high on the ouside but he took the long way around and kept 2nd.  Very close group of cars in the opening laps,  Managed to pass Freq on the outside of the last turn as he had to back off from PRibero.  I then followed PR for another lap or so with Brian fairly close to me too, but i figured my only way to get PR was in the slow section as id have no chance to get him on the straights, and lucky for me it worked although at the time i thought id touched him and made him spin but i never felt any contact so i drove on :-\.

Clear track ahead of me so i was able to just drive and not worry about the guys behind.  I thought if i could keep this little gap id have 1st after the pitsops.  I didnt expect Freq to have such a good stop and so my gap was not so good.  Then caught up with Backo and i suspected he never took tires since i was able to close up easy, then got on the inside at that long left hander and got by.

After that Freq closed up little by little and eventually was right on me,  We then battled it out, he got alongside for maybe the 3rd time and he had the line for T1 but i tried to go round the outside while we were side by side and at T2 i was worried about leaving him room and cut T2 to much and had a slide allowing Freq to take the lead.  Got back on track and was following him when he had a moment of his own and i promptly dived down the inside making a little contact, Sorry about that BTW. 

So i had the lead again but he just stuck to my bumper and i couldnt shake him at all, he'd have a run but id go to the inside to cover and just about cling on.  But he eventually got the lead back and i really couldnt see how i could get it back but 3 turns from the end Freqs car froze and i hit it, knocked me off track but nothing to serious as i got back on track, i actually thought he may have had a bit of lag and i expected him to be around the last corner doing doughnuts lol :P.

But anyway what crappy luck you had there m8, PCs are a nigthmare sometimes but im sure you'd have won it.

Congrats Simon for the GT3 win 8)

Cheers

Cyas for the next one


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Gomes Silva on March 03, 2008, 04:21:14 PM +0000
another great night racing, i use a default setup but i love this race, great 80minutes of racing :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 03, 2008, 04:38:08 PM +0000
@FreQ: just a game mate. You know you had it. ;)

That's the thing...I really didn't! Mark had been faster most of the race and I was genuinely excited about who was going to win, and we only had 3 corners to go! That was the most annoying part, not the loss of points :P Arghh You were v fast in the Porker though. How on earth did you get softs to last?! I was pondering H/H for a while! ;D

...i was worried about leaving him room and cut T2 to much and had a slide allowing Freq to take the lead.  Got back on track and was following him when he had a moment of his own and i promptly dived down the inside making a little contact, Sorry about that BTW. 


Yea, I wondered what happened to you. I thought I'd hit you so I eased off for a couple of corners but didn't feel any contact. Then you dived inside and I didn't mind the contact becuase I thought it was payback ;D Now I know  >:D
It's difficult leaving room round those sweepers, I tried to give more space but it probably wasn't enough, so I'm glad you got the place back. I had loads of side by side moments with Brian, Zacari, Backo, TT and loaads with you. Was nuts ;D

Was also surprised to see you actualy hit my non-existant car. Very lucky it didn't damage you or launch you.....at least my car didn't lag in the spot....it just vanished!!  :laugh:

Lastly, I've looked at your pitstop Brian. We've gotta sort you out.  It looks like you have automatic pit entry enabled (AI control in the pits)...is that right? That will be where you're losing out.

Tips for a quick pitstop: (apparently these are TS secrets.....so  blue = TS only!!)  :angel:

  • Map a button for the ignition. It will cut/start your engine, no need for the starter.
  • Practise the pit entrance, and get the braking right for the speed line. You should have the limiter mapped manually to your wheel so that it's easy to hit whilst steering in.
  • Cut your engine on the way into your box and coast in. Make sure you don't over/undershoot because otherwise you gotta start your engine again and it takes aages.
  • Work your fuel out beforehand, so you can just whack "enter" and not adjust anything. That wastes precious seconds ;D
  • Once the fuel is done, hit ignition to re-start the engine whilst the tyres are being done. Again, save a few seconds.
  • As soon as you are back in the car, 1st gear....GOGOGO
  • Pit limiter comes off automatically. Brake early for T1  ;)

I only found out about starting the engine whilst your tyres are being done recently. It is soo much faster! With this method, the Porsche's should always have a faster stop. The 360 is ok, and the M3 needs more fuel that the others, so expect a longer stop. Same with the Vipers (lot of fuel) and GT3's (frugal).
I learnt most of this just by being on teamspeak, so it really helps. Although the profanities have been lower recently without Jeff and Jon on there  :laugh:



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 03, 2008, 04:58:30 PM +0000
Do you mind Joss?! You're giving away all the team's secrets!!! :o :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 03, 2008, 05:31:04 PM +0000
Better?  :angel:

I'm sure they'll respect our wishes, and only Sharks will read the clearly blue, Team Shark only information ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 03, 2008, 05:37:09 PM +0000
Better?  :angel:

I'm sure they'll respect our wishes, and only Sharks will read the clearly blue, Team Shark only information ;D

Careful! I have full moderating privileges to delete whatever (and whoever ;)) I wish! :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Kerr on March 03, 2008, 05:49:20 PM +0000
I don't use AI pit stops anymore. I can make just about as much a mess myself now without the computers help.         I need to practice as I never do and I keep getting ripped to bits in the pits.       I don't feel confident enough to cut engine prior to entering bay. It would end in disaster too often.        I will practice soon.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 03, 2008, 06:06:36 PM +0000
Careful! I have full moderating privileges to delete whatever (and whoever ;)) I wish! :P

What? Ban me?! You wouldn't dare! ;D ;)

I don't feel confident enough to cut engine prior to entering bay.

Practise it. It means the pit crew start re-fueling much faster ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 03, 2008, 07:11:13 PM +0000
What? Ban me?! You wouldn't dare! ;D ;)

Who said anything about banning you?
I will erase you so well it'll be like you just didn't exist. :angel: :-* :ninja: ;)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Jeffrey on March 03, 2008, 07:20:05 PM +0000
Who said anything about banning you?
I will erase you so well it'll be like you just didn't exist. :angel: :-* :ninja: ;)

Please don't hesitate with this  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 03, 2008, 11:14:32 PM +0000
Yea, Jeff wants rid of me coss he's scared ;D

I'm sure you couldn't completely erase me Super Gymer Brother. I'm like sand - I get in all the nooks and crannys  8)  Why are you banning me anyway?! I'm more dashing, suave and sophisticated than anyone else round here  ;D 8) O0


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Paul968 on March 03, 2008, 11:57:27 PM +0000
in other words...

Quote
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

 ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 04, 2008, 12:03:00 AM +0000
Red or blue pill, Simon? ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Jeffrey on March 04, 2008, 12:51:57 AM +0000
Red or blue pill, Simon? ;D

Joss will personaly insert any colour suppository you want  :ninja: (<- just like him, you won't see Joss coming untill it's too late  *plop* :eek: )


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 04, 2008, 08:32:00 AM +0000
Red or blue pill, Simon? ;D

The answer is out there, Joss, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: EdamSpeed on March 04, 2008, 10:14:35 AM +0000
I see uncle Ruskie and Joss are back on the subject of bottoms ;)

Anyway, if those are the Team Shark 'secrets' - we've got nothing to worry about :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Joss on March 04, 2008, 05:41:59 PM +0000
...insert any colour suppository you want...

What version of the Matrix were you watching?!  :blink:
Ahhh yes....the Dutch version! Why take pills through your mouth when there's a perfectly good hole elsewhere! Good thinking Jeff! ;D

I see uncle Ruskie and Joss are back on the subject of bottoms ;)

Cracked up with this - he started it! ;D  :laugh:

The answer is out there, Joss, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.

Yea....he won't delete me ;D I'm too pretty  :wub:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Dubai (GP) - Mar 2
Post by: Jeffrey on March 04, 2008, 05:51:58 PM +0000
...insert any colour suppository you want...

What version of the Matrix were you watching?!  :blink:
Ahhh yes....the Dutch version! Why take pills through your mouth when there's a perfectly good hole elsewhere! Good thinking Jeff! ;D

I tried swallowing them, but that went horribly wrong.

I watched the version in which Morpheus farts in the Dojo and then asks Neo: "Do you think that's air you're breathing? " (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=UJt4BnuFqVc)