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Title: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Syd Drake on February 18, 2008, 08:58:14 PM +0000
Pre-Season Test 3 - Season 15 this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time (GMT).

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server 3.ukgpl
IP address  87.194.135.42

Race date = 24-02-2008
Track = Brands Hatch 67
Variant = 66mod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually time = 30 minutes.



NO chassis restrictions or pit stops.  However to ensure a competitive race please take a chassis commensurate with your GPL rank.  We'll re-use the bands from the Watkins Glen and Spa tests:


Chassis                            GPL Rank
Brabham BT19 Repco          10 or greater
Ferrari 312                         5 to 9
Cooper T81 Maserati            0 to 4
Brabham BT11 2.7lt Climax   -5 to -1
Honda RA273                   -10 to -6
Brabham BT11 BRM           -15 to -11
BRM P261                        -20 to -16
BRM P83                          -25 to -21
Lotus 43 BRM                   -30 to -26
Brabham BT11 2.5lt Climax  -35 to -31
Ferrari 246                       -40 to -36
Lotus 33 BRM                   -45 to -41
T1F Eagle Climax               -50 to -46
Mclaren M2B Ford              -55 to -51
T1G Eagle Weslake             -60 to -56
Lotus 33 Climax                 -61 or less

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=64;theme=6)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Syd Drake on February 24, 2008, 10:00:52 PM +0000
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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 24, 2008, 10:47:37 PM +0000
Grats podium.

Was anyone else suffering strange graphics glitches or was it just me?  I am having some problems but thought that I had got the better of them.

Was the 3/84,3/384 a bit rich for the full server?

I was chucked out once near the end of qually and didn't dare venture back onto the track in the last few minutes in case it happened again.

At one point the two card in front of me disappeared but only that once. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Ken Murray on February 24, 2008, 11:40:13 PM +0000
There was a Honda dissapearing in front of me at one point but that was about it. I watched a bit of the replay and I seem to have virtually all the cars visible on my client replay. What was the server set to?

I enjoyed the race apart from being taken out at the start when Syd clipped Kruger. Apologese once again to Chris Bull, who I clipped on the last lap when I slipstreamed him down the back straight. I think a few people ran in to the back of others from what I have seen on the replay.

How the hell Paul got a 246 round in the 1.34's I'll never know! Although I think there even some 1.33's at GPL Rank. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Bully on February 25, 2008, 12:42:49 AM +0000
Hi All, 
        Great race tonight :) Had a nice scrap with brendan for a good few laps, he eventually got the better of me after I came off. I managed to hold 6th place until the last lap and then I was off again, and then again! :( Ended up finishing 11th.

These race do seem to be quite short as they are fun races, How would people feel about making them int long?

Also you can download the replay and see the results of all the fun races at http://www.avyo18.dsl.pipex.com

Take it easy all.

Bully.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 25, 2008, 07:17:36 AM +0000
....................Also you can download the replay and see the results of all the fun races at http://www.avyo18.dsl.pipex.com
..........
Bully.

LOL

We don't need the server replay Chris.  With the server set on 3/384 we have all the cars on our client replays.

I think that if it is set to 3/84,3/132 then we will see enough cars for racing but will also ease the burden on the client's bandwidth.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: MikeBeattie on February 25, 2008, 07:26:53 AM +0000
Thanks for the fun guys, I'm not used to having to qualify on a "Full" track, so working out some space to have a clean run took a while. When Paul took the laed after I spun at the Hairpin, he was getting more and more sideways with every lap :), eventually tripping up at Dingle Dell with 2 laps to go.  Very intense racing, could my nerves stand a Int Long race ?? Well they possibly have more chance that Paul's rear tyres mind you :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: EvilClive on February 25, 2008, 09:57:40 AM +0000
Really enjoyed this race and if I could only find another tenth or two per lap I could maybe just have stolen this race when Paul and Mike tripped over each other on the last lap :D Something I had been praying for  lol.

However they were just a bit too quick and Mike at least was away from the scene of the crime before I got there and drifted gracefully past a stranded Paul with a huge grin on my face. ;D

I had the privelege of watching those two dicing throughout the whole race from the cockpit of my baby Eagle and at times it looked very close , especially when Mike regained the lead from paul mid way through the race lol.
 Although (by rank) I should have taken the Lotus 43 BRM 3 litre monster, I had several attempts at running that beast without any consitency and had plumped for the Eaglet which was rated slower, but which I knew handled better.

I think I would like to do longer races , but i'm not sure my nerves would stand it  lol.
Thanks again guys for organising such great fun, I think on the basis of what we have seen so far the 66's are going to be a very popular format with full grids. I can even see us needing a two divisions to accommodate all the entries??



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Ken Murray on February 25, 2008, 10:43:17 AM +0000

How the hell Paul got a 246 round in the 1.34's I'll never know! Although I think there even some 1.33's at GPL Rank. 

The guys in the little Eagles were shifting too. I must look at the replays and see where I'm loosing time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 25, 2008, 10:46:06 AM +0000
I should have taken the Lotus 43 BRM 3 litre monster, I had several attempts at running that beast without any consitency and had plumped for the Eaglet which was rated slower, but which I knew handled better.


Hah!!!

Driving a girl's car just because the circuit is a bit tricky!  :P

Be a man and fight the H16!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: EvilClive on February 25, 2008, 11:11:36 AM +0000
man's car??!!!  need to be ruddy Arnold Scwarzenhammereggerwhatsit to control that beast.
Anyway I did the BRM sketch at Monza  ::) just to prove I could do it if i had to . ;D and my arms are still aching from all the wheel wrenching to control the slidey rear end.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Iestyn Davies on February 25, 2008, 01:13:44 PM +0000
I guess all the cars being present slowed down FPS a bit.....

But i always think the more cars viewable the better... If those at the back couldnt see the mayhem at T1, they would have all gone in a lot quicker.... :D

And anyway, the start is about getting away safely, not trying to riskily gain positions.... So whatever the frame rate, seeing lots of cars can only help... And passing is what all the other laps are for ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Kruger Enge on February 25, 2008, 02:51:52 PM +0000
I'm all through with "fun" races - there was a striking resemblance to VROC pickup race, which I stopped doing a while ago.

So, I better stick to league races only.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Brendan on February 25, 2008, 03:31:20 PM +0000
Sorry to hear that Kruger.  :( 

I suppose being a 'fun' race, people have a slightly more relaxed approach to the proceeding, perhaps taking more risks than they normally would in a league race.

I had a great battle with Bully for the first half of the race and managed to get a better run down the back straight to pass him.  From there it was more like a hotlapping session than a race and I managed to snaffle a new PB near the end.  8)

One point of interest: The race results show I was in the Lotus 43 when I was in the 33 BRM so I hope no-one thinks there was any cheating going on  ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 25, 2008, 06:01:01 PM +0000
One point of interest: The race results show I was in the Lotus 43 when I was in the 33 BRM so I hope no-one thinks there was any cheating going on  ;)

[sneaky] Oh no they don't! [/bugger] ;) :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Brendan on February 25, 2008, 06:20:20 PM +0000
Hehe, that's more like it.......... :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Syd Drake on February 25, 2008, 08:32:07 PM +0000
I appeared to have started the t1 crash, but it was mostly lag. This is two consecutive frames on my replay.

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One moment Kruger is ahead, the next his car is halfway embedded in my car.

Lap3 or so I ran into a stationary Honda, I believe, at the pit entrance. I didn't see the car until I was practically right behind, and ran into it at full speed.
And on the last lap, same pit entrance two cars were wobbling all over the place. I tried to squeeze through, but it didn't work, and I crossed the finish line upside down, somewhere above the track.
An eventful day, to say the least.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Kruger Enge on February 25, 2008, 10:32:01 PM +0000
No finger pointing from me Syd - I'm aware of the warp problem and I know I have to live with that. I've asked for ADSL nearly a month ago and thanks to the efficiency of our telecom, I'm still waiting.

Its bearable in league races to some extent but not so much in fun races so at least until this problem is sorted, I will stay out of fun races (whats next, Monaco? yeah, right)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Ken Murray on February 25, 2008, 11:45:20 PM +0000

How the hell Paul got a 246 round in the 1.34's I'll never know! Although I think there even some 1.33's at GPL Rank. 

The guys in the little Eagles were shifting too. I must look at the replays and see where I'm loosing time.

It seems to be Surtees, and I thought I was quite good round there!!! Obviously crucial for speed up the straight.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: EvilClive on February 26, 2008, 12:51:21 PM +0000
Nothing to do with Surtees Ken, its the invisible tow rope I attached to Paul's Fez  ;D  oh! and the blindfold of course.

I still feel that I have not got Surtees sorted yet anyway, never seem to get the same line twice and the same with several other corners as well. That is not to say i think I can go any faster, just that , on average, my erratic style appears to have worked on Sunday ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 - Pre-season test - 66 mod - Brands Hatch (GP) - Feb 24
Post by: Ken Murray on February 27, 2008, 03:49:40 PM +0000
Nothing to do with Surtees Ken, its the invisible tow rope I attached to Paul's Fez  ;D  oh! and the blindfold of course.

I still feel that I have not got Surtees sorted yet anyway, never seem to get the same line twice and the same with several other corners as well. That is not to say i think I can go any faster, just that , on average, my erratic style appears to have worked on Sunday ;D

Yes, Surtees does seem to have a few options. It was Paul's qually lap I compared myself to. To be honest Paul was a bit quicker on the exit of most corners with a more efficient slow in fast out style than me. It's just that Surtees gives the most benefit having that long straight after it. I took some comfort in that I was quicker through the bit before and after Dingle Dell, really the bit where slow in fast out doesn't apply!