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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (17 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Porto from track pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Cars allowed: Austin Healey 3000, Renault Alpine A110 and Ferrari 250GT SWB (installed as part of skin pack).
Time of Day Setting: 17:00
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=177&theme=5)
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

***IMPORTANT INFORMATION***


The Ferarri 250, being an addon car, is encountering a couple of selection issues when starting the UKGTL server.

For us to be able to use this car in the race, we will have to make ALL THE CARS IN THE CLASS AVAILABLE WHEN JOINING THE SERVER.

This will NOT mean any changes to the ALLOWED cars for this race, even though you will be able to select cars not on the list.

Please turn up for the race in either the Austin Healey 3000, Renault Alpine A110 or Ferrari 250GT SWB only, any other makes joining will be politely Booted from the server  :D

Ta Bob and thats just another thing to bear in mind when testing new cars. Those that join in a Cobra will be named and shamed :wetfish:

Really looking forward to this one as the Healey is simply brilliant fun around here. And its a new track and there's a new car. That last, very fast chicane, is frightingly good.

Alpine for me. ;D Can't control the Healey and I'll never drive a Ferrari. >:(

TWO-FIFTEEEEEEE-GEEEE-TEEEEEEEEEE.  :) :)

Wooeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  8)

Wicked !!...cue fanfare of trumpets !!..at last we have an add-on car being used at srouk  :o  whoohoo :thumbup2:

nice combo of cars, should be fantastic. 8)
 Isnt Porto that track that started off the gentlemen racers series on sky? with that rather nasty chicane that claimed loads of nice shiny race cars?  :surrender:

Tasty, well done guys  :)

I had trouble finding a circuit map for this track until I found Oporto. Is this the same venue?
http://www.allf1.info/tracks/oporto.php

We can't deny that this just might be the inspiration behind this choice ;)

Nice track info here http://www.circuitodaboavista.com/gca/index.php?id=75

I'm up for this, fancy getting some GTL mileage again :D

Only just reinstalled the game, but I think it will be Healey or Alpine for me.

This is the first time I've ever seen this track.

Is there a ruling that says I cant use my Sat Nav.

Gave up earlier and walked it home. LOL

I can see some wrong way action here.


Oilseal

Oh you should have used the same cars as featured on the telly  :)

All my cars looked alike when I finished my lap...crumbled  :whistling: .

Will be the Healey for me again, can't feel the Alpine and the Ferrari as brakes made of marshmellows. And I kinda like brakes in very tight twisty streettrack ;D

Yeah I remember watching the first GT Racer show and thinking 'big girl's blouses, give it some welly'.  After scraping my Ferrari off the wall many times I now understand why the Cobras weren't going that fast.  ;D

Lets hope no-one spins it in the first few laps, could end up with most of the field bottled up.  And overtaking without the generous co-operation of the car ahead, he he, pull the other one.  Great track to hot lap on though.

Yes, the brakes on the Ferrari...just remember to begin braking at least 2 corners in advance.  They do improve after a lap or two, from non-existent to atrocious.  But a lovely squirming rear end to compensate.   :)

Great track this! ;D About time we had some street circuits in UKGTL! ;)

Now we just need Edmonton and the Toyota Corolla. :-X

Picked up the Healey, and pit crew today. Please enter our latest caption competition ;D

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2wrns7c.jpg)

With thanks to Laurie :)

If you see my car rocking, don't come knocking!  ;D

Flipping 'eck Ginsters...i'm not one for modern gizmos in old classics but i must get myself some of those twin airbags !  :P :tt1:

Dont tell the Legends team accountant, but i wrote off about 4 priceless GTO's in practise  :-[ including one that burst into flames! :o

I'm down to about 2:30 after 20mins but still very much just learning the track and know ive got a good 5-10 secs per lap to find yet :o. Sector 3 corner markers are plain liars !! where it says 3rd its 2nd and very hard braking etc ! So take all sector 3 markers with a big pinch of salt and a heavy brake foot! ;)

Not sure i like the track, feels like a modern street circuit like Macua, rather than seeing some of historic Porto, its all concrete and catch fencing. Its also very narrow, but i guess plenty of places to out-brake or draft on straights. Any accidents could end up with multi-car pile ups  :( so extra caution will be needed on the tighter 2nd gear chicanes and when following another car closely. There are some run off areas/escape roads at the tightest corners so very wise to aim for them if you find yourself running out of brakes!
The tracks saving grace for me is that a lot of us saw it being used for real in the GT Racers program so that gives it a bit of 'real life' racing factor to associate with.

What, you're using corner markers?  ;D

I was driving this circuit in night conditions yesterday, and that is hairy (no street lighting) :o

Raced against 19 AIs at Porto - what an eye opener.  Now convinced you should all start at 3 min intervals to avoid traffic congestion - it was worse than trying to cross the Tamar in August  :o :sweatdrop:

Good luck to you all - its worse than Monaco

(http://i26.tinypic.com/351eko2.jpg)

Laurie

yeah im thinking this maybe one of those great tracks in theory but not in practise !  :-X

Although many of us watched the GT Racers program at this track, the difference is they were driving real classics worths hundreds of thousands of pounds and were therefore a little bit more careful around the walls and chicanes ! :P
I hope we all exercise the same caution under braking !!  :o

Lol Laurie, you man or mouse? ;)

Think street circuit races have had mixed reviews here and the I guess the jury is still out. To be honest, we can't be sure how this will work out but it would be a dull old world if we didn't give these things a go :). Driving standards have generally been very good so far so I see no reason why the odd street race can't work (famous last words).

Luckily the Healey is a sturdy old bus anyways, it should have plenty "bouncebackability". Best of 2.24 for me so far.



 

Here here.

This track is a bit too narrow :D.

2:21 in the Healey, with some still to win :).

Hate this place. The curbing on the side of the road can easily flip you up and OVER the track barriers ending your race rather quick. The problem with this is when (and I say WHEN not If) there's a pile up, there's a good chance you're going to hit that curb trying to void an accident - launching you off track. This place is way to narrow and closed off, even if you make a solo error there's a high chance you're going to take someone else out with you as you can't veer off track. :( I can just see a bunch of accidents or no over taking - or both - on this track.

Also, if you choose the Ferrari 250 GTB it will also have the Addon Ferrari cars as selections, so you don't have to do the entire 65 class for it.

We agree that this is going to be different  :) For me, its good to go into a track that presents a different challenge. Clearly quali pace is gonna be crucial, consistent error free racing will be more important than outright pace and luck will play a fair part. Not saying I would want to do it every week but I consider it a "special" event in S5 :) I can't really come on here and moan that someone has gone off in front of me and ruined my race afterwards, cause its all part of street circuit racing for me.

Also, I enjoyed the track when we first tested it a month a go and am enjoying it more with pracci. 2.21 now but not much more to come I fear  :'(

Looking foreward to this one  :D

Being the one who enters the first corner last most of the times, I know traffic jams are going to be a problem... so be it! That's part of racing on street circuits and anyone who has seen last year's WTCC weekend in Porto know there's going to be trouble  ;D

Going to race the car-without-brakes so will probably be slow (2:30 at best) but I'm going to be at the back in style...  :laugh:
... and will use the extra large rear view mirror  ;)

Great choice Ginsters.. (track and car)

Nice HMHB lyrics in your signature too, Ginsters ;)

words well spoken Ginsters  8)  Must admit i am not a fan of this track having tried it a couple of times now. It is too narrow and tight really, but like you say, its a one off in the schedule and the idea of a race season is to encompass all sorts of track layouts to put our race craft to the test.

So be it !  :fencing:

anyone got a good GTO setup?

I predict an incident free race with absolutely no one destroying their car at the chicane at the pit lane entrance  ::)

I am hoping to join you all tomorrow at delightful Porto.  Using the Alpine I have managed most laps in 2:32.xx and occasionally got into the 2:31's.  Think this means I'm inside the 10% rule so unless something goes belly-up I'll join you (at the back of course).

What is name of your chat room and where do I get the pass word - noticed on Ginster's first post it says race 'password above' - but link is inactive.  Last question, is it a normal standing start? 

Laurie

Chat room? You've been playing GPL too long mate!  :laugh:
There's the blasted SimBin lobby to go through to get to the server. >:(

That's about the same pace as me so if they don't let you race I'm in big trouble! ;D

As for the server name and start type:


Looking forward to racing against you (assuming I don't crash at the first corner ;D).

All the answers you seek are contained within (or close to) the very first post in this thread  :)

I would pick this track to return to GTL  :o  Set off and though it was narrow... then it got narrower !  Gonna be interesting for sure.

Password is only released a certain time before event Laurie, it should be there now. Its always same event and pracci password for UKGTL.

Welcome to you and welcome back to you Mike :). Maybe not the easiest event to start, or return with but I can guarantee it will not be dull  :)

Just done a few laps - going to sit this one out, despite the Healey being available, as it's stupidly tight and almost bound to end in the same sort of carnage which has stopped me racing at Monaco too. :-\

Thanks for the information evryone - see you tomorrow

Laurie

Here's an idea: why don't we have a UKGTL endurance race at Monaco? :lol:

at night with only V8's allowed

Not really complaining of the track choice - as it's very fun to drive.

Moreso worried about the fact that I'm far from a professional video game race car driver, and I have a bad feeling that my hours of practice/tweaking the setup will be wasted due to the fact that this track literally will not allow a single error :(

Me thinks softly, softly ,catchy ,monkey on this one! first outing i got round the track once without killing the car or ending up doing Olympic class tumbles down the road ;D this is going to be a mad one  :eek:

None of us are professionals here, and I for one have the same fears, Every race...GTL and GTR2 (just read last nights race report from mugello lol) but I also enjoy the challenge and this track offers a slightly different one to the normal in the sense of more cunning and guile rather than out right pace or driving skill......not managed to turn a wheel here yet, but I am quite looking forward to it, despite the obvious difficulties.

Thanks but, as with all things UKGTL, I can't take all the credit. If the harbingers of doom here are proved right, please remember this was Pseudo's choice ;)

Softly softly, get punted by a monkey (no offence) more likely, but its a great idea in theory Ade ;D

Even if you don't finish, just take heart that the replay footage of us all through that last chicane will make a lovely souvenir for all the family.

Do we have any video editors in the place? I feel a YouTube destruction montage coming on..muhahahahaa

ran some more laps last night but it doesnt get any easier !

I'm setting quick times, (2:28's) but as someone else mentioned, it doesnt allow a single error or you are in big trouble. Very hard to be consistent (in the right way) i found, two quick laps, tag a barrier, two quick laps, tag a barrier... :P

Very easy to flip the car along the kerbed armco, which is a bit naff.

Looking forward to this one. I will take the Alpine as it is probably the best handling car of the three, so, hopefully, it will be a bit easier to get around without hitting too much. As Ginsters said though, a fair amount of luck will be required as well as a less balls out approach.

Cya all later

Geoffers

You have my sympathy Mr BMW, personally I've never made a 'single error' in a race "ITS USUALLY 20 or 30"  :jumpjoy: :cursing:

Geoffers - totally agree about the Alpines handling but you forgot to mention it's also the best looking  :laugh: :laugh:

Laurie

all 3 cars are about as tasty as it gets for classic sportscars  :wub:

I'm going with the 250GTO as its just such a classic race car and i want to show support to us finally using some add-on cars. But i love the Healey and the Alpine for sheer coolness too. The only thing letting the Alpine down in game is the whiney shite sound effects...i want to hear the throaty carbs !!

wouldn't mind a bash in the 250GTO myself.....err...someone remind me how I alter the price of them so I can actually select one....it's currently valued at 250,000 :-[

I had this problem last week. You need a file that you place in the main GTL folder (sorry name escapes me and I cannot access nogrip to find it at present, can someone help with this?) Anyway this file will provide a newly created profile with all cars and shed loads of credits. So load up GTL and create a new profile. Call it Loadsamoney or something. Then leave GTL. In the folder that has your details in a file, rename your old profile file extension  to something slightly different then rename the new profile to your old name. Again load up GTL and your old profile will now have all of Loadsamoney's cars and credits but all the other settings will be stuffed. Now leave GTL and reverse the file naming that you did earlier on. Now if you go back to GTL your old profile will still have the old settings as was but also all of the cars and credits. Neat huh?

Cheers tony, I will follow the above and see what happens....think I already have said file as I used it to get access initially.

After wrecking all but one of the TS Healey's I did a 2:17.9..and then crasht after the finish :P.

Here is my Healey setup:

http://files.filefront.com/Healey+Porto+JRsvm/;9941727;/fileinfo.html

For the money cheat.

Create a txt file and name it: TG2001.DYN . So it's not a txt file after you're done :P. No need for a new profile :)

No need for a new profile if you have NEVER used this file before agreed, BUT if you've exhausted it's initial benefits already and you need more cars/credits then you do need a new profile.

How can you've spend a million credits?  ;D Gave the wife your creditcard again :lol:

hehe, anyone taking bets on how many finishers there will be tonight?

My moneys on...hmm, 8?.  :o

All bets are off on cars crossing the finish line undamaged  ;D

Even Jeff is stacking the team Healeys...wonder how much virtual cash we've wiped out in practise so far? Ive taken at least 10 GTO's off the world market ! :P

Great time by the JR  8)

Cheers Jeff, was feeling quite upbeat until your last post! Unless that setup includes an aero pack i'm screwed.  :surrender:

A little something to wet your appetites when you should be working:

Circuito da Boavista (Porto) - Gentleman Drivers GT (1) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=MYPQHAcoeiI

Circuito da Boavista (Porto) - Gentleman Drivers GT (2) - http://youtube.com/watch?v=tld3q2MNkj0&feature=related

Simon stated this before last street circuit race and it bears repeating

Because this is a street circuit, you will be expected to drive with extra caution. An accident here can take out a lot more people than at a road course, so drive within your capabilities. This is a 17 lap, ~40 minute race so take your time overtaking, there are plenty of laps to do it in.

Quite a good percentage returned home safely from that race at Monaco, although the race had plenty of incidents. Lets hope for more of the former and less of the latter this time  :)

I thought I was going ok but thats a killer time JR :-* . Haven't been this excited/nervous/terrified about a race for a long time  :D Takes me back to Enna in the GTR1 days.

Sorted the being able to get use of the 250.....not sorted how to drive the bloooomy thing yet though  ???

Cheers folks

Yeah, that was a decidedly fast time, I'm probably similar to sbg's speed in my 250.  And I feel exactly the same way, qualifying will be excellent, and the race, well that's just one big unknown, the anticipation is building.  Can't wait to get on the practice server tonight to finish learning the track.  ;D

I believe that if you open the "Car file" of the car you want to buy you can edit the price of the vehicle - its the value line about 2 from the end.

Laurie

will there be a priest present tonight ?  :-X   ;D

Good luck all...we'll need it !

2:22 so far, thats looking respectable :)

I'm sticking with the default setup, it's stable at least!

lmao ..2.17.9 !!!

ill be there today, track is near my house so i can go there :)

I'll be there....in my JCB GT Turbo  ::)

this is boavista http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=XeBX-PdyGmw

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=exa18WXnFf8

Damn man, having trouble getting in for some reason. Got in the first time fine, then after a restart no joy. Just hangs and chucks me back to the lobby after password entry.

Double checking i've got the right track and downloading track pack again - might be worth a go if anyone else is having same prob.

Errm.....I have altered a few settings to get the fezza 250 available.....but when I join server now i get an 'Incompatable game version' message...... ???......is there a patch for GTL too like GTR2?.....I'm not having a good day  ::)


oooops...its ok....just found it......never mess with settings unless you know what your doing (unlike me  ;D)

I know i'm not the best driver but letting me start in the middle of the park between the trees. ???
I'm not that bad  ;D
I am dying to see the replay and see where i start according to the replay...

Hope you all had a fun 17 lap race

Well I managed about 3 laps & either got hit by or hit at least a dozen cars! Carnage I think. Oh well back to a sensible track next week ;D

well...as an experiment in tight, street circuits, it worked very very well.

the results clearly show that it was a very very bad idea  ;D

quit after 10.....no, not laps, crashes into people, barriers, trees and buildings (and yes, that is 10 of each :o)

then I started the second lap.

Roll on Cadwell.

my thoughts are, now i've tried it, that these sort of tracks are ok for the more accomplished and experienced drivers but are just not suited to the 'mixed' abillities that actually turn up for races here. Shame coz it could be great fun.

Grats winner and podiums

Think I trashed Dan Minton's race at the first corner and lost the will to take part.  Really sorry Dan, I didn't brake too late I don't think(?) just got distracted and didn't brake hard enough at the end. Stupid.  Nothing to do with the track.  Retired after a couple of distracted laps.

For once, Psuedo, I agree with you. Street tracks are great in theory, terrible in practice. :(

I gave up after I'd ended up on my roof. :-[

I have seen that on the server chat window Tibs, I will be submitting a report, please dont discuss it on the forum  ;)

well that went worse than i expected (and i wasnt expecting much!). Got hit by what felt like 10 cars into turn 1 and pushed up ontop of the tyre wall !!  :o  had to rev the car until it wobbled back down onto the track, minus one rear wheel  :'(
Crawled all the way around to the pits on 3 wheels, had major repairs and rejoined a lap down on the top 7 cars. Drove the fezza around for a few more laps thinking i might pick up enough places through retirements to get a few points. But about 7 laps around i caught a kerb very slowly and the car gently rolled onto its roof  :(  Race over.

Apologies to whoevers rear quarter i tagged at T1 whilst being pummelled into the tyre wall.

I guffed my race on the start getting a False Start Stop Go. I came out of pits, did a good lap, then came out of the chicane to a 3 car spin out. Somehow I sped through the wreckage without a scratch, untill I drifted wide and hit the curb causing me to flip.

Was a fight to keep my car tame whenever I would turn right after that, and finally as Ruskus was comming to lap me I clipped the curb comming out of the pit chicane and flipped a good 20-30 times in the air before landing outside of the track. Sorry if anybody clipped me during my airborne racing.

Did anyone else feel like a turd being chooted out of a colon on this track?  :lol:

LOL :laugh:

hmmm.. got the same thing with a quick race when I started 24th... you actually start outside of the track.

Shame, because with you're new found Karma it could have been points....  ;D

Loved the little sunday drive in the park... and the best score of my 'career'... bring out the Moet!!

I'm frankly disgusted by some of the abuse hurled out on chat during race tonight >:( It may be a cwap track or maybe some cwap driving but we have a system in place to deal with that. Hopefully the two people involved will have calmed down a bit by now and be man enough to apologise, privately, for it.

Really is unacceptable. And, as Bob said, don't discuss it here.

Well that was the worst race i've done for a long time. Not happy with myself atm :-(

Series of errors induced by the Ferrari! I want to love it but its so unforgiving it makes it hard to :P

It had the pace but as soon as you get even slightly off the optimum line/throttle/steering inputs ur in trouble.

Really sorry to JR about the ram into T1 - completely underestimated the uselessness of the brakes particularly when cold and with lots of fuel!

Had a decent few laps getting into the flow but pushing too hard and hit the barriers once too often and the handling was getting worse and worse until it was so bad that the brakes did absolutely nothing other than pitch me into the barriers again - giving me a puncture. Limped around (coming off at every bend) for a 147 second repair pit-stop. Carried on for the fun of it but it bit me again :-(

Guess I will console myself with fastest lap for the Fez ;)

Really tough track but I did like it. If we could go again I know where I went wrong - rematch anyone lol!

Was happy with a PB in qually.

Didn't know about ingame fuel calculations so I started with a full tank (80L) just to be sure  ::).

At the beginning had Assa and Bara behind me and it was close. When that gap increased I kept it slow and stay away from trouble.

I have one question about this track. Why was this time of day chosen? It's already a very dangerous track, so why make it even more dangerous with a blinding sun?
Also, were there enough grid spots on this track, because Sandor started in the park?

I agree with you on the chat SBG, check the moderator's board for the discussion :).

results and replay available

Crikey that was nerve shredding :)

Baulked a couple of times in quali but wouldn't have gained a place anyways with the great pace up front. Just drove well within myself until I could assess what was happening. And to be honest nothing much happened at first, with a big gap in front and behind. Then Bara and Mike both slipped up and I felt duty bound to race them ;). Bara was to fast for me and duly slipped by but Mike I could just about hold up. I had great fun trying to out think and hold him up but it was wrecking my nerves. A backmarker slipped a way in front I got cautious and Mike slipped cleanly past. Congrats on pulling the French thing up there :)

Backmarkers were excellent as Mike and I came through, and throughout race :). Apologies to Sid for the scare as I went to flash my lights to thank you but almost clobbered you instead. Congrats to JR, Mike and all that finished. Back to the wide open spaces next week :)


Atomsphere, and I didn't think it was "blinding". However, it certainly made it more tricky which was a mistake. We will not make the same one again when the next street circuit race comes around, next season some time ;) We did, of course, test full grids and all seemed well and can only apologise to Sandor if that was the case we won't Porto again if it was.

Great fun :D

Surprised at my grid position, and knew that some of those big-engined monsters would be past me before T1 , and so they did.  Ended up in 4th though and was looking at quite a lonely race when I mis-shifted at T1 and spun.  Lost a place to Ginsters.  No damage, so I plugged away, reduced the gap and then spent quite a few laps wondering how the hell I was going to pass a Healey around here   :laugh: I could get right on him through the turns, but onto the long straight the Healey pulled effortlessly away!  I had to keep the pressure on and try and force a mistake, I finally got one which let me get a run on him and outbrake him into T1 and 2nd place!  :o

The French thing is good fun to drive I have to say, even if it won't pull the skin of a rice pudding  ::)

Congrats Jeffrey and everyone who finished!

EDIT: Why don't the cars from the skin pack show up on my replay??

Guess I couldn't have picked a better circuit for my first race with you - figure it can only get better LOL.

Actually I thoroughly enjoyed it but was taken completely by surprise at the effect of the low sun.  I just couldn't see the edge of the road well enough to put in a lap time any where near what I expected. In future I'll remember to practice at the same time of day.
Starting from the back of the grid I managed to avoid all the carnage at T1 and someone on their side heading for T2.  Only hit the wall hard once and don't think I got in any of the front runners way when being lapped.  Just a note on being lapped - some of you were difficult to pick up in the mirror as it was pretty dark, think it would have alerted me better if you had flashed me (your head lights that is not the other  ;D)
Congratulations not only to the podium but everyone still running at the end.Where can I find the replay as I need to study some of those incredible Alpine lap times.

Laurie

Under the link above (the blue menu bars) that says 'replays'  ;)

You made it there, you can make it anywhere Laurie :) Congrats on the points finish.

Here's one for you :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/104666966/SRou_Porto_2-20-1.Vcr.html

Great race and well done to all the finishers. Besides the "activity" at the first corner I didn't witness any bad driving at all. I managed, early on, to glance a concrete wall which spun me around and I subsequently got smacked a good'un by another unsuspecting driver. This twatted my steering but didn't prevent me from finishing a rather quite race.
Wouldn't mind driving here again, it was ok.
One thing tho... why is it that doing off-line practise my times are better than on-line? The on-line track just seemed really slippy. I've noticed it before but last night I found it really obvious.

Don't think difference is quite as marked as GTR2 where offline pracci is almost pointless for me. The server has next GTL track running straight after race night (cheers Bob) so, as I don't have much time for pracci, I tend to do all mine online.

Again the standard mixed reaction to street circuits :) Whoever does S6 will no doubt risk another one and I think it would be a shame if they didn't. Gotta say, apart from 1st corner mess, everyone did their best to make it work  :angel:. Ta.

You know, I don't have a problem with how narrow the track is. But those kerbs...Even a low speed contact was flipping my car (2-3 times during the race). I can't even imagine what would have happened if I hit them at high speed. Very unrealistic.

Same here, track was great, but those curbs that can finish you off any second were bad. I saw Mr. Bmw flip hard in qually and in race right before me :D. Had to stop and see where his bouncing car went ;D.

I don't have a problem with the kerbs. Surley that's what practise is for, to learn the parts/elements of the circuit to be wary of?

Diabolical first corner ..got smashed to pieces. >:(

Oddly, I think kerb physics worked excellently on inside of slower corners. There were a couple of times I made Mike wait behind me as I went on two wheels ;D Yeehaaa! I agree they didn't work quite as well on the outside of fast corners. Maybe we all knew to avoid them but they certainly didn't feel realistic, although exactly what does happen when you hit them at 100mph+? Luckily I've never found out.

I really loved to race in Oporto, i use to watch classic races, there once a year.

Funny to pass in the places i use to watch, the track has an amazing detail of the buildings, shame theres no water and sand on the beach.

I was really pushing to get in ruskus rear, i was very fast in the last straight, ( you should see the wtcc cars goig down there ), shame i hit a car that was crashed into the wall and was moving bacwards.

When i was trying to do the chicane at full speed i crashed, car out.

Amazing track and race, thanks.

I am very sorry guys, having watched the replay it was me that caused all the carnage at T1. I thought that I had gotten a nudge from behind, but that was not the case. I simply locked the brakes & slid straight on. To everyone who got involved I am very sorry & I will endevour to be much more careful at T1 in future.

Geoffers

I flew off track and visited some ladies watching the race.

Sorry for the little rant after the start was abit annoyed.