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Title: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Don on March 11, 2008, 09:37:45 PM +0000
Is a two race format where Drivers will score combined points from both races!

Practice: 20:00 (10 mins)
Qual: 20:10 (15 mins)
Race 1: 20:25 (14 laps) about 25 mins
Race 2: 20:51 (14 laps) about 25 mins

Track: Brands Hatch (07)
Cars:  Radical SR4 (205bhp)

Time of Day: 14:00
Weather: Dry
Start: STANDING

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notes
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(2) Please don't press escape once you have joined the starting grid or you will get a DQ!
(3) Championship standings are on the series page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=69)


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 12, 2008, 08:38:03 AM +0000
I hope to finally make my first Radical championship race this time, fingers crossed, touch wood and any other superstitions you can think of.

Maybe some more advertising on RSC, Nogrip and R2P will help numbers?


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Kerr on March 12, 2008, 09:33:44 AM +0000
I hope to finally make my first Radical championship race this time, fingers crossed, touch wood and any other superstitions you can think of.

Maybe some more advertising on RSC, Nogrip and R2P will help numbers?
They are struggling with numbers over at r2p too, Simon. The radical races only just manage double figures.             The touring cars are more popular though.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: JPS on March 12, 2008, 07:52:05 PM +0000
See you there guys


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Joss on March 12, 2008, 09:15:03 PM +0000
I had a go in a public server after our last race yesterday, but in the WTCC's. Had a few great races with some clean racers  :o  The WTCC's are fantastic, and I love the Beemer :)

Hope we can use them in the future. Brands should be good though. Thanks for organising Don ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Kerr on March 13, 2008, 05:50:23 AM +0000
I tried out the 87 bmw the other night and really enjoyed it. Best car i've found in the game so far.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 13, 2008, 08:39:20 AM +0000
I tried out the 87 bmw the other night and really enjoyed it. Best car i've found in the game so far.

That does surprise me. When I tried the old touring cars they sucked beyond my wildest nightmares. Awful physics and no fun.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on March 13, 2008, 08:50:27 AM +0000
I tried out the 87 bmw the other night and really enjoyed it. Best car i've found in the game so far.

That does surprise me. When I tried the old touring cars they sucked beyond my wildest nightmares. Awful physics and no fun.

I'm with Kerr. The older Alfa/Bimmer are a godsend to those, like me, not keen on the newer models. I've done a few WTCC races elsewhere that included these older models and it really added something. Be aware that they are a good deal faster than newer models on most tracks though.



Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Kerr on March 13, 2008, 09:03:27 AM +0000
I tried out the 87 bmw the other night and really enjoyed it. Best car i've found in the game so far.

That does surprise me. When I tried the old touring cars they sucked beyond my wildest nightmares. Awful physics and no fun.
That is odd. On saying that I think most of the cars in race have poor physics.            It must be personal taste as I was baffled why caterhams and radicals won the vote before the season started.  I personally find the radicals feel like a very poor arcade game.       Not sure if the vote would be the same again as a number of the voters for these cars don't seem to join in the races.               


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 13, 2008, 09:26:36 AM +0000
That is odd. On saying that I think most of the cars in race have poor physics.            It must be personal taste as I was baffled why caterhams and radicals won the vote before the season started.  I personally find the radicals feel like a very poor arcade game.       Not sure if the vote would be the same again as a number of the voters for these cars don't seem to join in the races.               

I agree the physics in RACE are pretty dodgy. Caterhams are a lot of fun though as they seem to get the best out of the dodgy physics. Radicals I agree simply feel wierd, but it's nice to drive something different. The old touring cars are not a patch on GTL so can't see the point in those anyway even if I did like them. Any overlap of cars, RACE is going to lose out cause it ain't as good as GTR2 or GTL. I really hope GTR 3 (or RACE expansion pack (whatever they're calling it)) doesn't use the RACE engine cause it won't make me leave GTR2 for GT racing just for newer car models.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 24, 2008, 07:44:00 PM +0000
Back to the subject, just done a few laps and got down to a 1:28.3, so pole will probably 1:25 or better.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Minton on March 25, 2008, 06:43:43 PM +0000
should be able to make this one ..hope we get a half decent turn out. Not fond of Race myself but anything for a blast round Brands.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Don on March 25, 2008, 06:56:15 PM +0000
1.29's for me atm.
Good news is they are fairly easy to get round when compared to the Caterhams.

In hindsight I would of preferred to run a season in the single seater's for Race. But then again thats a personal preference.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: mag07 on March 25, 2008, 07:07:19 PM +0000
Should be around for this one,my monitor has given up on me,so I,ve got to resort to a 10 year old 14" jobbie running a god dam awful resolution,so,see how it goes  :-\

Bill


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: BACKO on March 25, 2008, 09:08:54 PM +0000
I couldn't believe it  :o :o :o My screen stayed freeze and I couldn't do anything. >:( >:( >:( Such a shame,I was looking forward for second race :(
I'm not happy at all. :(
Anyway thx Don and guys for nice 1 race and congratulation to winner in the 2 race. ;)



Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: JPS on March 25, 2008, 09:23:19 PM +0000
Good Fun Don
2nd Race I drove the last two 2 laps with my rear body work missing and the steering kinked over to the left due an error and an encounter with the wall. Managed to hold Ade off in these laps after a spirited try by Ade. Good fun.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Minton on March 25, 2008, 09:31:10 PM +0000
Great racing!!!   The radicals make for close race and the brakes are so good and the cars are very predictable .   Had a great fight with Bara in the first race after Backo cleared off, Tied numerous times to out brake Bara into Druids as i was a little quicker through Paddock but he was waaay to late on the brakes..nice driving mate, got through at Westfields at the end.

2nd race got hit at Stirlings due to my warping and had a great time battling back through with a couple of good tussles along the way.

Grats to winners

thx


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 25, 2008, 10:13:27 PM +0000
My screen stayed freeze and I couldn't do anything. >:( >:( >:(

I had the same when I first joined the practice server, but no problems during the races themselves.

First race got a mediocre start and had to concede a place at Druids for safety. Then fought my way up to and onto the back of TinMan, and managed to get up the inside into Surtees where he half spun and then had one of those strange lazy slow spins back the other way. After that just had to keep it clean and stay ahead of him whilst he closed the gap again.

Second race I got a really good start and then had Shark all over me whilst I battled with JPS1. Got him down into Graham Hill and Shark mugged him on the way out before mugging me a few laps later. Then Dan caught me and there wasn't enough left in me or the car to resist, so another 5th place and 5th overall. Consistent if nothing else. :D

I do like these cars a lot even if there's something terribly artificial feeling about Race '07.

Results and replay now up.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 26, 2008, 08:55:31 AM +0000
That was good fun. That's my first championship race with the Radicals and at Brands they worked quite well. It's really nice to race something different from the GTR2 cars and I quite like the Radicals, more enjoyable than either of the single seaters, even if there is something artificial about the way any of the cars in RACE adhere to the track when they lose grip.

Sorry again to Dan for the tap. With your warping I had pulled out to the side a bit to try and avoid such a problem and hope your car settled down, but I guess it wasn't enough, which was a shame as you were fast indeed.

Second race was more fun than the first with the reverse grid, as the first was sort of no mans land after Dan passed me early on. I had some battles in the second race with JPS and Gizmo.

I would say with 11 or 12 drivers this series is on the brink of not being viable though and we could do with trying as much as we can to encourage people from other forums and leagues over here for these races to make them more entertaining for everyone.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Mark J on March 26, 2008, 09:38:56 AM +0000
only my second ever stint with a radical since owning the game. Had no praccy and had to jump in the deep end in qually...hence sitting 11th on the grid !  :-[
Luckily knowing the track inside out helped but still learning just how hard you can push these things and only used default setup.
Thought they suited Brands really well, feeling on the ragged edge in lots of corners with the screaming rad engine sounds cranked up in my room!
Had 8th in the bag until final lap when i lost it around the back allowing someone to scamper home ahead of me.

I'd still rather race with the caterhams or the single seaters, its hard to dispel the feeling of arcadey bit of fun with the rads.
Graphics are great in Race, the rads blasting through the trees looked great but thought some of the corners at Brands are laughably in-accurate.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Don on March 26, 2008, 10:07:20 AM +0000
I would say with 11 or 12 drivers this series is on the brink of not being viable though and we could do with trying as much as we can to encourage people from other forums and leagues over here for these races to make them more entertaining for everyone.

I know what you are saying Simon and agree, but as there is only one schedueled race left in this series my choice would be to try to drum up enough support to run an openwheeler series with a slightly different format than we use now.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 26, 2008, 10:23:28 AM +0000
Ok, sure thing Don.

As much as I might not like the Touring Cars, they may be the most popular type of car for RACE 07 (after all that is the main category for the game) and maybe we have to wait for Blimey's Ferrari game before getting any decent single seaters. :-\

I will certainly continue to support the RACE 07 series with my attendance whenever possible as I like to race something other than GTR2, whatever the type of car is.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: mag07 on March 26, 2008, 07:22:12 PM +0000
Thanks for the races last night Don,shame the numbers wer'nt up but still good fun  :)

First race got off with a stop and go,after the light's came on and I adjusted my seating position and ending up dropping the clutch  :-[ ,so ended up 30 sec's back playing catch up,still very enjoyable,finishing 8th  ;D

Second race started on pole,got away well,lead the first couple of laps,then was past by Bara,tried to keep tight on him and keep ahead of the rest of you for the rest of the race,managed to succeed  2nd :D

Thanks again Don and congrats to all who raced,

Cheers Bill


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: JPS on March 28, 2008, 08:51:56 PM +0000
A Open Wheel series would be different and good. Will the Race 07 add on change anything?


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 28, 2008, 09:30:33 PM +0000
A Open Wheel series would be different and good. Will the Race 07 add on change anything?

What's in it?


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 1 - Brands Hatch (GP) - Mar 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 28, 2008, 09:48:40 PM +0000
A Open Wheel series would be different and good. Will the Race 07 add on change anything?
What's in it?

Nobody knows but SimBin. Release date has gone back to 30 May on Play.com.