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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (40 laps = ~80 mins)

Track: Hungaroring v3.1 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.0))
Cars allowed: Any GTC65 excluding GT40.
Time of Day Setting: 12:00
Start: STANDING
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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Skin pack issues mean that anyone using E-Type will have to use standard skin for this race please

Endurance on the Mickey Mouse Ring?  :o

ppfff... quite a challenge  ;)

Lol. Gawd not another controversial choice :)

Maybe/hope its only you Alex  ;) I really enjoy this track and it got laregely rave reviews last time it was used here. 

Oh no, do not get me wrong! I like the different challenges!!

To get your concentration up for more than 1,5 hour on a twisty track is going to be really demanding  ;D

No complaints on the track choices; the're cool  8)   

I didn't reallye njoy this track with the TC76 class, but I think that could be due to that class. There are a lot more fun cars in this class ;D

No worries Alex, only winding you up :) We all have our faves but hopefully we will got more hits than misses this season.

We had enough HITS in the last race thank you.  ;D :D

Skin pack issues mean that anyone using E-Type will have to use standard skin for this race please

Enjoyed the Healey so much that I'm reluctant to take its bigger, nastier, hickier cousin the Cobra for a spin. However this car selection was made for those who enjoy the faster GTC's and I might just join you chaps. I'm unbeaten in the Cobra :angel:

I will have to try the Cobra ;D

I'm leaning towards cobra too.

I think that would be 90 minutes. 80 minutes is 1.33 hours (lol)

TC

 :-[

I'm REALLY Tempted to take the TVR for a spin on this one. It seems my logic has stepped aside for the sex-on-wheels that is TVR.

TVR - Sex on wheels! ;D :lol:

It's rough, brutal, scary, and will downright kill you if you're not carefull and don't know what you're doing.

Blimey :o
I've led a sheltered life ;)

LOL ;D ;D

I'm joining the fun probably in a TVR if it's as good as the saying goes....

/Claus

Welcome along Burgunder :)

Think I spend 58 % (roughly ;) ) of the lap sideways in the Cobra with a best of 1.56 so far. It might work for a single quali lap but gawd its going to be hard for 1.33 hours. Should be fun though  :)

I also like the Cobra, but I'm afraid it will be too good.

So the Daytona looks good, but that's basically worst than the Cobra in all areas, and still has shitty tyremanagament :D.

So maaaaaaybe the Corvette again, but that will be tough here.

To be honoust, I don't really know a lot more cars in this class ;D

JR.... about time you took a very slow, underpowered car to prove how good you are!? ;D

not the usual 'tanks' !! :)

Maybe the GT350? Then us non-aliens would stand a chance? ;D

Leave poor old JR alone ;) To be honest I'd rather he beat me in equal equipment than something way slower. Oooh the shame of that :)

Doing 55's in the Cobra but it feels way to manic over 5 laps let alone 80 mins. Might use the Healey for safety reasons, especially if Mr.David Healey Gymer is around to beat. Really enjoying this track by the way :)

Lol. Whatever car I use, it will have more power than grip ;D. That's just too good to get away from and get a proper handling car :D.

not sure i can make this one yet, maybe  :-\, consecutive mid-week enduros do not go down well for domestic bliss  :-X as it means i disapear for the whole evening.

Might take the Healey too if Ginsters and Dave are in one, give me some peeps to race against.  :-\ Not sure yet as not managed to do a single lap of praccy  :'(

Can't make this one either...   :(

At least one moving chicane less on the track  ;D

Have fun.

Can't decide whether to get all competitive-like in an Elan or just have a stupid sideways blast in a Shelby Daytona.   :-\   Hmm, guess I'll decide on the night.....should be fun but a tricky track to overtake on.

I have ultimate respect for anyone trying to drive a Cobra for 80 mins.   :P  That takes guts!

..or a slight mental problem  ;D

What......Dennis ???

Still not even seen the track yet, so it's default setup FTW again :D

I'd like to take it, but I'm afraid it's too good.

Its definately good for 1 lap ;) However, I wouldn't take anything away from anyone driving the Cobra consistently around here for 80 mins for a good finish. That won't be easy at all and I don't fancy it, hence I'll be in the Healey Gentlemans Racing Club tonight  :)

whats a fairly decent laptime around here in the gt65 class?

Im still hoping to race tonight but will not really know until late on and will prob miss praccy and qually, so may just have to join back of the grid and hope for the best as the race goes on.

I am torn between a Healey or the Daytona at the moment, i seem to be on similar pace with either with only a handful of laps under my belt here.

Yeah i'm a bit stuck on motor choice too Mark...would love to destroy some tires in the Cobra but as that will almost certainly end in disaster, I thought the Alpine might be the key to securing some much needed points for my green amigos and I. Unfortunately I only managed 2:02 after a few praccy laps. There's definitely more in it as it was a scrappy drive on my part but i'm sure it will struggle around here regardless.

Never been a particular fan but the Elan looks like it might be good little workhorse for the evening. Any thoughts on the E-type - is it competitive?

Had a few laps in the Healey only managing 2.02s :( so think it has to be the Elan for me, down to 1.56.299 at the moment.

1.57 Elan 4 Me !

B'ah the elans should be banned from this class, they are the easy-win option  :(
Quick enough and far too nimble for most of the other cars in this group. Everytime we allow them, half the grid seems to pick them and run up front. They are the 'Alfas' of GT65
Grumble grumble ....

Right thats it , I'm going in the Lotus Elite then :laugh:

The Elan is probably the one to have but it's a bit unfair to slate them.  ;)  This is just a track that particularly suits them, flowing mid speed corners.  On faster or slower tracks they get mullered by Cobras.  Still think the Cobra wil be the quickest, just hard to drive consistently.

Tried the Daytona last night and it was a real wallowy handful, much work on setup needed, 1:59s there, when I could keep it on track that is.  Suspect it will run at the same pace as the e-types and even Healeys, weight is a big determiner here.

me too (and we've added an extra coat of toxic green to celebrate)

Oops just spotted Ade said "Elite" and not "Elan"

Well sod the lot of ya, we need some goddamn points and I don't care how they come (provided its clean obviously  ;))!

I recall there were a few races in the early days with when this was about the fun ;D

mmm, well a practice with the Cobra and a few setup tweaks to give something more consistent gets me 1:55 - 1:56

I'm gonna stick with it ;D even if the rear tyre wear makes life interesting at the end of the stint!

I am going to just tootle around behind you all in the alpine  :)

looking at the laptimes this lot are posting, i'll be tootling around with you pseudo  :-[

I'm gonna take the Healey, ive made my executive decision  ;)

80 Minutes are only 2x40 minute sprints ;). Mind you, I haven't driven a lap here yet in these cars :D

Hahaha, i'll give you a wave  ;)

When you are trying to get your car out of the kittylitter and MJ passes you  ;) ;D

Listen don't knock it 'til you've tried it, the view is great, once the dust clears it gives me a chance to enjoy the occasion, and then i'm ready to pop back into the pits for a nice little stop/go penalty....it's a Thursday evening well spent  ;D

Blimey :o

Based on peoples times the only people i'll be racing will be my pit crew! Having done a few laps in a few cars i havent been able to get under 2 mins. I was looking at the daytona coupe as it seems to have the power and some handling to it, but i think i'll take either the alpine or the elan.

I don't often agree with you ;), but now I do fully.
At the moment, there are 5 people in the server...4 are Elans...and guess who doesn't have one :P.

Elan has:
Very good handling
Good fuel economy
Good tyrewear
Good top speed at this track.

No idea how the tanks are going to have to beat that?
I'm always trying to convince people to leave those cars out, as they get picked all the time and are a defo winner most of the time. It also causes people to not try something different.
I think SBG changed to yanktanks a while ago, and IIRC he enjoys is a lot ;D.

EDIT:
Did a few laps in the Daytona and I'll be around low 56's I hope. First lap in the Cobra was a 54.8  ::). Still, the Daytona is much more enjoyable to drive, so the Cobra can be e-bayed :P

Will be running the Elan as I struggled to get any of the others round the track in less than about 5 mins!  ;)
I agree that excluding them would be more fun!
I do like to take the fun option but on this track, as you all say, there is only one choice! :)
Still looking forward to it! Have run a few laps and still get caught out in the Elan!  ;D
It's gonna be a long race!

Yes but Elan drivers are all big girl's blouses. :P

We look forward to seeing you in one in a few mins  ;D

Men in Healeys wear Burberry ;D

That makes me that much closer to scoring than you!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

Burberry is soooo 2007.

I knew I should have picked the Black Cobra... ::)
A little too much throttle exiting the last corner and....I spun straight in to the pitwall. ::)
Didn't fancy trying to finish a lap with a cobra that can only turn right so retired. :'(

Just to say sorry to those that I ran into, I hope I didn't ruin your races. I think that my style of driving is not really compatible with your endurance races, so I think it would be better if I didn't race with you guys any more. Thanks for the few races that i did with you, see you around maybe.

Geoffers

C'mon Geoffers, hope you'll at the very least come along to the sprints, I've had some fantastic races side by side with you or trying to close the gap to you, thoroughly enjoyed them all.   ;D

As for me, disco at about lap 25 or so, that was a shame but I still had an absolute blast in the Daytona, not the easiest car for me to drive!  Can't believe I jumped into 3rd on the first lap, held onto Jeff and Mike really well for the first 2-3 laps then the tyres warmed up and I never use them as well, much prefer cold tyres.   :D

Started slipping back to Ade and Martin, some really excellent driving by them to avoid me, the Daytona was so much slower through the bends than the Elan, so thanks for that, I lost momentum once or twice but not the slightest tap.

After about 16 laps the tyres were really getting shot and my constant drifting got harder to hold onto and 2-3 minor offs dropped me to 7th.  After pitting I was really going for it, hoping to make a few places back before the tyres went off again, and I was closing slowly on the Elan ahead (Mr. Oily or TinMan, can't remember, sorry).

Then I discoed so I'll never know if I could have made any places back.  But brilliant race, I'm utterly exhausted, time for a drink now.   :)

Couple of bad races/mistakes/bit of bad luck doesn't change the fact your're a pleasure to race with Geoff. Please put them behind you and join us next week :)

WHOOOOOEEEEEE

My back hurts, and my knees are killing me but it was all worth it.

The first half of my race was intense, under constant battles with PRebiero for 7th, and Syd on my tail in 9th.
Luckily for me Syd flipped his car taking the pressure off of me there, and I was in the hunt for 7th for quite a few laps. I was following PReb pretty close and had to really adjust my speed to make up for his slow turning Jag, unfortunatley this made me slide to far on the 2nd last turn going in to the kittylitter. The Elan really doesn't like to get out of it to much, and I dropped back to 9th. A lap or so later I was unfortunatley punted off track on turn 1 and dropped back to 12th :( I kept 12/11th pretty consistently and pitted in on lap 16 using an early lap strategy (which probably is what helped me keep up with PReb so long).

lost about 7 places in pits and rejoined in 19th, 8 seconds behind Oily who exited the pits a bit before me. The next few laps were pretty quiet, and I was worried my strategy failed as I wasn't getting close to anyone. Luckily about 8 or 9 laps down people started pitting and I jumped back up to 9th. Was holding 9th well and Will16v was right behind me, so luckily I had no pressure on losing a spot as either way we would score team points.

Me and will were trading 9th and 10th around, and then big bad Ruskus started comming up. I was able to move out of the way for Ruskus, but while checking my rear view mirror for Mike I flipped the car and dropped back to 12th :( I always F up when being lapped :(

My car was not to bad after the flip, but while chasing Will for 11th I slipped and smoked the wall flipping again, this time wrecking my suspension. Had to deal with the car steering right for the last 4 laps. Although I was involved in one incident sending me off track, I can't say it hindered me to much and I still enjoyed the race greatly.

Was never a fan of Hungaroring as I could never ever ever figure out a proper line aroudn this place. Luckily I started to find it last night during practice :D

I need to go shower - that race was intense!!!!

  :o ;D

That was  EPIC  8)

If JR had been in the Cobra, he'd have disappeared, but as it was I had an awesome chase of his Daytona.  I was a touch faster, but could never get close enough to try a pass.  Lost about 8 seconds to him in my pitstop, but gradually reeled him back in to be only about 1 second behind at the finish.  Very happy with that race :D

Will, sorry for collecting you near the end, you tried to let me through, I cocked up my brakes and we met in the middle :(

Replay and results in the usual places.

What a race!

Was surprised to grap pole in the end. The whole first stint (20 laps) me and Mike were never ever further away from eachother than 0.8s :o.
I decided to go in a bit earlier, to get fresher tyres earlier. I think it worked, as I came out 8s ahead, with 2 drivers infront.
I was gaining on the cars infront, but was unsure whether they pitted or not, so I kept pushing.

They then went in and I had Mike 7s behind me...and he was gaining fast with 10 laps to go  :o. I had to push me nuts off to try and stay infront ;D.
And in the end we finished with, yes you guessed it...0,8s gap ;D.

Great race and a good final for my enduro GTL season :).

It was most entertaining watching the angles your Daytona was being driven at ;D

That was horrible for me.

Started ok was holding my own around 15th and slowly gaining a little....had a bit of a tussle with two lime green elans....forgot my dark glasses though so I got blinded and ended up wagging my tail for an eterrnity before kissing the armco.

Got back on it and was again making progress...slowly but surely reeling SBG in ahead when for some strange reason I double downshifted approaching T2 and ended up with my nose stuck in the barrier.

Pitted and spent about 4 mins getting a new suspension, new wheels, new body work, new engine etc etc.

When the double shift happened fopr the 3rd time a bit later...I gave up.

Grats to winners and podium.

;D It was actually very stable :lol:. I normally have much more oversteer, but this car suffered more from understeer at the end, and my wear was only 20 at the rear, compared to 35 with the Vette at Nurby ;D.

Your Cobra was also often nice and sideways ;D.

Also well done on showing those Elanboys :D.

I don't know how much wear I had, but it felt like a lot ;D

Where did the Elans go anyway ??  :P

Bit of a quite race that. Everytime someone (Pseudo, Mark etc) caught me, something conspired to knock them back :-\ After my good start I resultantly didn't really race anyone. To be honest spent most of race getting more and more grumpy about the Elans, stupid ruddy little cars (MJ started me off in a bad mood ;))

Curvey tracks for enduro/Elans aren't my cup of tea but we have to aim to satisfy all our punters and sounds like many enjoyed tonight Be a boring world if we all chose Healeys (or maybe not). Congrats to JR, Mike and Blunder :) And I guess I won race of also rans. 1 all Mr.Healey ;)

I've no idea what to make of that.

Qualified a couple of places behind SbG's Healey and expect to rocket past the Elan and Alpine ahead but it just didn't happen. Ended up stuck behind a little pack of Elans and then made a tiny mistake near the end of lap 3 or 4 which put me in the barriers with bent steering and some front bits missing. Got going again almost at the back of the field only to catch the inside edge of a curb a few laps later and roll into the gravel. The marshalls got me turned over again and I set off to see what was what but I was badly off the pace and my tyres were going off too. Had a few laps enjoyably scrapping with MJ until he spun in the final turn and then pitted a couple laps early after failing to catch Pseudo's Alpine.

Had the front bumper fixed and took on fresh rubber but the length of time it would've taken to repair the suspension was over a minute so I had to live with the bent steering.

The car felt a lot better on new boots and in one piece and I was lapping a fair bit quicker but still a long way down the field, making much of the race rather tedious. I seriously considered quitting but with only two Shark cars in I had to at least try and salvage a team point or two.

Eventually I found Spanner coming out of the pits and an epic battle ensued as my tyres turned to shreds, but I somehow hung on despite intense pressure from his Alpine, which was miles faster everywhere except the front straight. Most enjoyable. ;D

The car went through some strange phases in that race - sometimes feeling good and sometimes almost undrivable, lifting wheels off the ground and threatening to put me off in every left/right or right/left transition. No consistency at all and very frustrating, especially after the car felt so great at the Nurburgring. ???

How on earth did I manage to finish only one place behind you after my nightmare first stint?! Were the Elans really that much faster?!

Healey is no match for the Elans. Elan has much hogher topspeed and MUCH better handline :). The Elan is nearer to the Vette, Daytona, TVR and at some tracks, even the Cobra.
So it's no shame to lose from the Elans when driving a Healey.

RUSKUS! UNOFFICIAL LAPCHART PLZ

Unofficial Lapchart (http://lapcharts.simracing.org.uk/Lapcharts/GTL Enduro Hungaroring 01-05-2008/index.html)

Thanks, this will be good reading material at work :D

Wow 3rd! I still can't believe it!!
Qualified in 4th with a PB!
Got a lowsy start but after a couple of cars span at turn 2 and I threaded the needle between them then we were away in 5th!
Had some fantastic battles with Ade and Steve.. Ade made a minor mistake and I was through, was behind Steve for what seemed like ages!
Didn't want to risk a forced pass so was patient until eventually all that tail sliding in the Daytona took it's tole, a minor slide got me through!
Was then pushed really hard by Ade but he eventually had some sort of issue and he dropped back.
Then back to sticking in a few quick consistent laps for as long a stint as possible! JR and Mike must have pitted at that point cos I was leading!
That fact nearly had me off at every corner! the pressure!!  ;D
On the last lap before pitting an unforced error into turn 1 saw me bumping into the inside barrier and a 360 spin! Rejoined cursing
I had not pitted sooner.Luckily no damage!  Exited the pits in 5th, and thought I had blown it! 4th place pitted leaving me with 7 secs behind Syd in 3rd.
Threw caution to the wind and went for it! Syd must have had a couple of minor issues cos I caught and passed him reasonable quickly.
Syd then seemed to find another gear and kept me honest to the end!
I think this equals my best finish ever!
Will be skipping round the office until next weeks race brings me back to earth.
Thanks guys, a real pleasure ! :D

mmm, Bit of a strange race.
After only 3 laps there was nobody to fight with and all i could do was bring the car back to finish in one piece.
For that I succeeded although sometimes it was hard to keep your mind focussed.

On to the next race.

My apologies for quitting the race so early, not something i like doing. I shouldnt have attented, doing two mid-week enduros in consecutive weeks is a tough call with a missus. I had no practise except a few familiarisation laps and missed the pre race practise and qualifying through some 'domestic bliss'  ::).
I can usually pick up the pace quite quickly in GTL, but starting from the back of the grid in an unfamiliar car with no qually time and then dropping behind a horde of elans to the tune of -7 seconds within 3 laps told me it was better to leave.  :-[

LOL, looking at the car entry list, ....with regards to the Elan  :whistling:

Hungaoring is a great add-on track mod, but i think it would make a better circuit for our modern GT racing than the classics. I prefer older vintage tracks for GTL.

Awesome race this end, thanks again organisers and grats podium - probably my favourite to date with 25 overtakes woohoo!

Had good pace and qually'd 5th thanks to a sweet setup from Mr.Beemer and help from Wiltshire in praccy. Got a good start but I thought everything was looking a bit rosy and after a little dancing with Geoffers (no need to quit dude, waiting would have been fine!  ???), went all the way to the back of the grid.

Too many tussles to remember but enjoyed some great close and fair racing, ended up three abreast into turn one at one point which was an eye opener and then joined the lads in the lime green Prodigy train we had going. Swapped places with Will a few times and then thought i'd try my luck by doing an early stop to get some clean air and not changing tyres to save some pit time. It seemed to pay off and when the stops were over i'd leapfrogged a few and got up to tenth. Towards the last laps saw Tinman on the horizon and went about trying to catch him. Had a great little dice before trying a last of the late brakers move into turn one....and failing miserably. Luckily Tinman got off his roof, back onto four wheels and we rejoined in the same places - sorry mate!

At this point we were racing for sixth place (which is quite exciting for us greenies) but all the theory went out of the window and instead of waiting for an opportunity patiently and then taking it decisively, I did an Oily special, got all excited and just went about hounding the little yellow Elan from all angles. Ended up trying a switchback on the last corner of the last lap, got up the inside, got the power down but it was a fraction too early sending me a bit sideways. Thought I was going to take it for a minute but it wasn't to be and TinMan pipped me to the post by a foot max! Thanks and well done dude, that was brilliant  ;D

I had no defence against that ruddy car, except sideways through corners. You make a fair point though, I did kill you last night and deserve to gain far more points than I did ;)

The fact that so many chose the Elan means that it's undeniably popular, for whatever reason, and it would be just wrong not to cater for those people. It will remain an option whilst so many enjoy it. However, I can't wait to reap my revenge with the GT40 at Goodwood ;D

but ginsters, arent you missing the point slightly on 'why' so many people took the Elan ?  I'm pretty sure its not because its so many peoples favourite classic sportscar  ;)

Sounds like it needs some ballast added  :-X...runs for the hills..

I'm completely missing the point about what the issue is with people choosing the Elan.
It was available, it was chosen. End off.

Well no, hence I said for "whatever reason"  :) The reason doesn't really matter, people took it because they enjoyed it and thats enough for me. The open selection policy only runs in Enduro, which was part of its attraction, so don't worry the Elan won't have a huge advantage in any sprints. I think it made a change for them to have the upper hand last night, it won't happen at Goodwood :)

By the way, nothing should take away the gloss from some of the Elan clan results last night. Twas great to see some score their best results  and some new faces at the top (same old one right at top of course ;)).

I thought I would have more bother with the Elans in the race TBH, they weren't far off in qually and I expected to find them buzzing round the Cobra and Daytona like flies :D

It was one hell of a workout driving the Cobra though  8)

I'm very happy for those with their greatest result in the Elan :D.

However, we missed a few big names last night, and I think when they would have picked an Elan (Bara, Madd etc), I think they would have won it hands down.

I know open car selection is good, I absolutely support it, but I don't like one car sticking out above the rest. That's the reason why the GT40 wasn't allowed. :)

I hope I'm not coming across as arrogant with my post, I've never driven the Elan so I don't know exactly how good it is  ???

Where on earth am I being sarcastic there? I used no teal, no wink smileys  ???. I think you are pulling my post out of proportion.

And if there is something I can't stand, that's being falsely accused of something.

I think Ginsters misunderstood that post, perhaps ;D instead of :D <-- looks like its laughing.

It did come across as sarcastic to me and I apologise unreservedly if it wasn't meant that way. Sorry JR.

Just standing up for the Elan drivers really  :) Think they are big enough and ugly enough to stand up for themselves now.

cor blimey, lighten up people, its bad enough arguing with the missus without encountering it here too  :(

I'm more than happy to see Elans in the mix, its no supercar, just find it a little disheartening when loads of people jump in one for a cheaper shot at points, as seems to happen whenever its available. I guess cos its easier to drive and yet very competitive ?

ps..good news gents, i got us a fix for the cadwell park garages. Its posted under GTL section :)

I'm chuffed and will be for days, just cool to get some points on that flippin' board at last!

For us mere mortals, 80 mins of concentration and a pitstop is a challenge regardless of car choice, but as its exactly that, a choice, I think it was a good move. If anything it levelled things a little, if you've got a tendency to be a bit pants, there was an option to give you a chance to fight with those who were a bit more confident and fancied something more lively.

Lots of fun was had and next week it'll be a Falcon for me so there's plenty of time to enjoy the chaos caused by fishtailing amatuers then!  ;D

Very well put Mr Oilly  :-*  :)

Sorry for my little outburst last night, I was really hacked off with myself. Its bad enough making one or two mistakes & ruining your own race, but when I took other people off too I was starting to lose interest. You then become very wary of trying to overtake anyone in case you run into them. I made an early pitstop in the hope of having a clear track to race on for a few laps but immediately I came out of the pits I got a serious bout of lag & went off track twice which just about capped things off & I quit.

Thanks for the kind words Ginsters & Steve, I will give next weeks race some consideration.

Geoffers

Hope you do Geoffers.

By the way - I like the Elan.  ;)  (Sorry Ginsters)

Although last night's race didn't have the lighting atmosphere of Nurby, I really enjoyed the pitstops.  The Daytona's tyres were fairly tired prior to the stop, but it was fantastic when I came out and the tyres warmed up and stuck like limpets, really gave me renewed confidence.  Until the disco.  Not being a regular pitstopper, that was a great feeling, noticing such a contrast.  Also waiting to see how your pitstop and fast laps have panned out compared to your rivals is exciting.

They're exhausting, these enduros, but they provide great enjoyment.

Wait for a two hour race with daytime setting at 10x

See you next week Geoffers ;)

Admittedly I've not helped but can we put the Elan debate to bed now please. I think both side have made their points well now. Let battle commence again after Goodwood when the GT40 drivers may well get some stick from the Elan chaps :)

I can't remeber who said it about the pitstops, but I think he was right. I approached my pitdude very slowly (I even came to a halt too early  ::)), and while I was rolling towards him, I already got the notepad. I wasn't even standing completely still and I already got the options.

Worth a try if you're having problems with the stops, and maybe worth to put this "tip" into the first post.

reading this makes me wanna get back into GTL  ::)  ;D!! 2 hour enduro sounds quality  ;D ;D

It is, but it's not happened (yet)

See here:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4494.msg74026#msg74026

Phil

I took the Elan 'cos I was 2 seconds per lap faster in it than the others - and I still couldn't stay with the front runners. As Oily says, over 80 minutes you can drive it with confidence and know you will make it to the end. On the subject of Mr Oily - great racing and very fair of you to wait after our coming together. You had the edge on me, and I couldn't see me holding you off till the end.
These enduros have been a revelation - great choice of cars and good racing throughout the field.

TC

Hello Purds, where have you been hiding? Not seen you around these parts for a while. Suppose youve been driving those silly real racing cars  ::)  ;) ;D

GTL Endurance is great. My only request on behalf of the hitched folks is please spread them out a little through the normal GTL season. We cant justify losing the 'entire' evening on a regular basis.
It carries a lot more weight when you can say 'they are only every few weeks'. In my own case, i only get home in time to have some dinner (which she cooks naturally ;)) then have to say goodnight cos she wont see me before 10.20 ish !
Only a request obviously, if it sticks to current pattern i will just have to miss several rounds  :'( ...or offer my crown jewels up as a sacrifice ! :-X

My Missus repays me by drinking my best single malt whilst I'm driving.

yeah still racing those group C monsters, if GTL had sneaked into the 80s i might be on it all the time!

I used to play GTL A LOT! more than GTR and enjoyed the single player. Unfortunately GTR2 killed it off! Don't know what public servers are like now, maybe all the hardcore enthusiasts are left and those wreckers in the panteras long gone  ??? 911 RSR FTW !  ;D

Cheers TC, you placed the car really well. Waiting was only fair...it was a poor move but I was committed, had nothing left to do but feel guilty as you disappeared off towards the moon lol.


Here here! You do a fantastic job chaps but that would be one change i'd definitely like to see... :yes:

So make them longer but less frequent seems to be a common sentiment (well mine anyway ;D)

Just wanted to say that was great fun last night but bloody knackering! I thought this track wouldnt be any good but it surprised me. I thought the little alpine would be at a bit of a disadvantage and watching the gaggle of elans come straight past on the straight wasnt fun in the first few laps. Managed to be the second alpine, 0.7s behind psuedo which was good and that laps wasnt a brilliant one so knew I could run reasonably well. My start wasn't good, too much wheelspin then changed into second too early but managed to run with psuedo early on. Looking at the lapcharts i was running closly with someone for most of the first stint but the track is just a bit too tight at times which made it too risky at times  especially as i didnt really have an advantage over the whole lap.

I managed to monitor the fuel so that when i stoped there was only 13 laps left, but was thrown a bit when i pitted as to what the fuel setting was, either fuel added to current level which was only a few litres only or whether it was what you wanted to leave the pits with including what you stopped with. With fuel and tyres changed it ended up being a long stop especially as it didnt seem to fire back up for a long time. Finally mananged to come out in front of Dave (Blimey, did you actually pit?) which turned into quite a battle with Dave pretending he was in a drifting comp. round most corners swinging that big'ol ass around ;) where i could kinda get my nose down the inside on some corners but had
to get out of it carrying more corner speed and with the lack of rear-corner vision didnt want to get too agressive only to get swiped.

With my lap counter saying another lap to go and trying to get a bit of drafting off Dave down the straight i suddenly find cars littered down the main straight then find out the race is over. Bit of a shock, had people stopped after the line?

Just a shame the next enduro is so long away, seemed to just click with GTL.

The fuel setting when you enter the pits is the amount of fuel you currently have onboard NOT the amount to be added. If you have your AI control switch off (you should have) you will get a message at the top of the screen telling you that your race is finished. If you finished before the set no off laps then you were lapped in the race.

What are these "points" of which you speak? ??? ;)

Apologies to Mr_Oily (? - an Elan) for collecting you in my spin at the chicane on my lap 29.  I wasn't comfortable driving on this track and at that stage was driving to finish and trying to keep out of everbodies way.  Instead I did the very thing I was trying to avoid losing control at the chicane.

Sorry, I guess looking at the results you missed out on sixth place as a result.

Bill

Well, that was hard work all race with Will and Jebstone, enjoyed every minute.
Although GS team having an Elan skin, i choosed a not very popular (was only me)
E-Type, last 10 laps, i was sparing fuel, as i began the race with full fuel on, allowing
me to only change all tires during pit stop, but, at half distance race my fuel niddle,
was slighty to the left of the middle, i took the change to go like that till the end,
but had to spare  :P

Congrats all for the driving.

No worries Bill, done much worse myself so don't mention it  ;D Did look like you were having fun trying to keep the thing facing forward through that section!