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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (25 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Silverstone 88 from track pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Cars allowed: Porsche 906, BMW CSL, Porsche 911, Corvette 1969 and Ford Capri.

Time of Day Setting: 12:00
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=177&theme=5)
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Just a bump so everyone spots the change of date and realises that this our next championship event. Cross fingers, touching wood and all that  :)

Thx for sorting that Simon.

No probs SBG, glad to be of service. I know the LM2i can be a bit daunting for this sort of thing and then rearranging the calendar and updating the post dates and so on all needs to be done. I think I got everything. :)

Was this always going to be one of the championship races? I can't remember seeing it before. :-[

Yes it was. Its simply been moved from its date after the Enduro's to before them :) We should all have sufficient practice time? Well, there's never enough but you know what I mean.

I'll take anything except the Corvette :)

Yeah right!  ;D

Now have my new ISP - BT.  Only been active about an hour and I had stable PingPlotter pings of 25 over 10 samples and repeatable download in the 4800 area.  ;D

With VM my service was terribly variable and performance decreased with time until in the 2015 to 2100 period the lag was too much to drive safely. :taz:

So I hope to be at Silverstone with my 906 raring to go.  :jumpjoy: :jumpjoy: :jumpjoy:

Bill

I'll be waiting for you Bill  :gun_bandana: Be good to have you back

mmm, BMW CSL ;D

No idea if it's got any edge over the others, but I'll be in it anyway :D

My BMW's tank only seems to hold enough fuel for 19 laps, I take it this race includes a pit stop?

No pitstop, the ingame calculation is wrong. When I drove the Vette here in the 60 minute race I could almost make it on 1 tank, so the BMW should easily make 40 minutes ;D

Yep, apologies for that JPS. We did discuss the fuel calculations problems at Silverstone test race but should have added them here as well. Welcome to UKGTL by the way :)

The Vette sounds the most fun but I'll need to do some testing before I commit to being a kamikaze pilot :)

I'm taking the Porsche 911 here.

Don't think Kamikaze pilots tested that much  ::) :P, so just hop in and plow that thing to the finish ;D

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's good to be back.  ;D  I'll keep my beady eye out for you.   ;)

I'll miss next week's race I'm off to look after my grandsons whilst my daughter is sunning hereself in Cuba.  :laugh:  I'll return for my GTL fix the following week. :fencing:

Bill

Thanks for the feed back on the Fuel question, Ruskus/Ginsters.

No worries JPS look forward to seeing you Thursday.

After some extensive testing, I've still not found a 76 car I get ??? I'm jiggered if I can get the hang of any of this choice. Saying that, the Vette I kinda understand as an understeery beast, that needs to be pointing in the right direction early which sounds easy but its a lot easier to say than do ;)

Half way to understanding the Vette is the best I'm gonna get by Thursday. Despite all that and the fact I'm way off the pace its an absolute blast this kamikaze lark :)

I haven't had a chance to practice anything yet  :o  default setup here we come  ::)

Any chance somebody could take a look at this just in case we have server issues?

They'll have to watch out for low flying PC's below if I can't get on the server again tonight as its going out of the Window.

Yep...I will mate....just as soon as you tell me what you want me to take a look at  ??? ;D

Are you still suffering those "time out" symptons Oily? Touch wood that problem hasn't plagued me recently.

Remember, issues last week were all track/ginsters related  ;) This track has been pretty extensively tested but if anyone knows of any issues please let us know.

He was going very fast during online practise last night. I think this may of unsettled him. He normaly makes sense  ;D

Brain/ keyboard link a bit below par this morn....it's this damn day job...so distracting. The link I meant to give you was - http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22810

I've been having grief for weeks SBG, just that last week you all experienced the same thing for a bit! That was obviously due to the track capacity issues but even when they were resolved I couldn't get in to Zolder. Can normally get in during practice but then I get kicked permanently...almost as others join.

Anyway I've got something to try this eve thanks to Joel at NoGrip. If anyone struggles, you might also want to make a note that the solution could be to renew your local IP address, apparently this clears the problem 99% of the time.

START > RUN > ipconfig /renew

I know this specific issue doesn't affect many but the lobby's been sketchy of late too so I thought it would be good to have a direct IP backup option....if its practical. Also gives me another chance if that IP renew thing is no good!!  ;D

That sort of direct ip thingy is above my level of competence..... ;)....that stuff would need looking at by a much higher authority.

Yeah no worries Psuedo, i'm not totally clear either. It sounds like its something we'll all have to do on our machines individually but I have a feeling you might need to untick "broadcast to lobby" when you boot the server.

Definitely not confident but there are a fair few verifying that it works. Any higher authorities in the place?  :notworthy:

Any comparable laptimes so far from anyone?
Managed a 1:37xx after 3/4 laps in the 911, but thats the only praccy i've had  :-\

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4274.0

;D

No idea how I got fastest laptime in that tank  :-\

well you will be on the same (1:37 - 911) pace as me Will as i've only had a crappy 20 minutes practise at this track and even that was a few days ago (missed the fun race)  :'(
I didnt realise Silverstone had changed so much since 88  :-\

Hoping to learn the track..'on the job', so to speak   :P

I'm not going to make this I'm afraid, I won't have enough practice time available :(

Have a good race everyone :)

I'm in that same 1.37 range with 911.

Ho hum, ho hum, bimmer or one of the porsches?

Finally I can join a GTL race!

Good fun, for my first race in GTL.

Is it my computer or was anyone else suffering buggy issues during this event.

a. When I joined the event, the server kept loading the drivers for the race in every screen apart from when I joined the track.
b. Irregular pitbord info ie wrong + and minus info including positions.
c. Constant skidding of an invisable car in front apart from the smoke from the tyres which I could see.

Can I do anything to cure the above for the next race?

Following Blunder into T1 and thinking "thats a nice tight line he's taking, I'll follow him. I wonder why I haven't done that before". 20 spins into the air later and I twigged why it wasn't a good idea :D. Hope I didn't take anyone out.

My idiocy made for a great race though. Going back up the field I first encountered some, well it can only be described as silliness really, early on. Why overdrive when there are twenty odd laps to go? Gained a couple of places like that, then got past JPS who was going well and slowly edged my way up to MJ. Great little dice, with plenty of room given, but eventually edged past and gapped him. Next up was Will I think and that was fun :) More fun with Ade till end of race. Gotta say it would have been really easy, and almost understandable, if any of those chaps were caught out by my early braking but the fact that it was good clean racing with them all says a lot :thumbup1:

Must give fair dues to Bernie who obviously got tangled in an incident and was waiting when Ade and I flew bye. I realise that must have hurt and hats off to you for doing the right thing. Not sure we could really do anything else but I took no joy from it and apologies for later clash :-\

Congrats to JR, PR and Assasino :) Apologies, results and replay will be here later than usual.

 

Hehe, great to "be back", after missing quite a few races.

With such a long brake from GTL, I took a safe car to avoid trouble, the 906.

But boy did it feel like driving an Abarth at the start of every straight  :D
The others just zooming away down the straight, no real possibility of forcing a pass on a track like this unless they made a mistake.

Of course, unlike the Abarth, the 906 corners really well, and has, I think, the shortest braking distance in the game. Maybe tied with Escort.

I tried a few setups, but took GH's Spa setup in the end. Very very easy to spin the car, both on the brakes and on the gas, but the benefit was it turned pretty good and stuck to a corner really well.

In the beginning there was always someone laying down a military grade smokescreen into that final tight righthander, making it hard to see where the track was  ;D

Was following a trio of cars the first few laps, but the others peeled away after a bit leaving Geoffers alone in my sights  ;D
I tried to put pressure on him when I could get near, but every time I had to slow down in a corner to avoid hitting him, he'd be far away at the end of the straight. I enjoyed our duel for a while, and finally Geoffers was a little late on the brakes into one of the faster corners, going wide and letting me pass on the inside. I was worried it wouldn't stick, but fortunately it did.

EDIT: Replace Pribeiro with Assasino below, I was a bit confused when writing.
After some mostly solo laps I came upon Pribeiro who was sliding around in his Vette. and I think I found the source of the earlier smokescreens  :laugh:

He let me pass once in much the same manner as Geoffers, but this time it didn't stick for very long. The Vette is just too fast on the straights. We caught up to 2nd place in a BMW (didn't catch the name), and I was hoping they'd cause each other to slow down enough and just maybe I could take advantage of that. It did happen eventually but only partly, as I got ahead of Prib but not the BMW. In retrospect, I should have backed down as to not slow Prib down here, their battle was my best chance of getting past both  ;)

We finished in the same order, all very close to one another. I was of course thinking, noo, just a few more laps, just a little more tire wear for them. Especially the Vette looked to be pretty tough on the tires.


All in all a very enjoyable race, even if I didn't have the most exciting car for this race. I would so have wanted a turbo boost button, or something to get a little more oomp down the straight.  :D

Yeah, install the skinpack. Should be listed in the OP (first post, race details / Notes.)

I think the invisible car may have been me as you sent me flying off into the infield  ::)

In fact i was in the BMW (PRibeiro) the guy in the Vette was ASSASSINO  :P

Good race, excellent team work ASSASSINO.
Cheers

Lol, sorry. I guess I got a bit confused there  :-[ :laugh:

Not forgotten the results...just having a slight prob downloading some of the info...will post them asap.

Results and Replays in the usual places.

I was behind you when you 'blasted off' but you got so much hang time that i was able to avoid you, I tried to go around but I probably had enough time to drive stright underneath you with the hang time you got!

I few stupid mistakes from me, got into the back of martin blunder 2/3 through the race under braking and catapulted him into the gravel. Apologies Martin. Waited for him to re-join but we both lost a few places in the act and I think it probably ruined Martin's race as he didn't seem to have the pace afterwards.

Not a great fan of this circuit, found it a bit boring although thats just my persoanl opinion.

Fair enough :) All your views are welcome as the easiest way to select tracks for S6 is to trawl through the forums and pick out the popular ones from a way back. Don't let us keep picking unloved tracks ;)

On that note, just been trying Warwick Park track which is a ball.

Apologies for joining late. Didn't think I could make this race, so it was a bit rushed..
did some minor tweaks to the setup, filled the petrol to the brim and the Porsche felt like a truck  :-\

Hope I didn't got in anyone's way whilst being lapped..


Has the same issues but it didn't bother me because I was dead last  :D

I've seen it before and didn't think there's a quick fix for this apart from hacking into GTL..

Nice race tho.. (and grats to to my teammate  ;) )

Didnt really get into that track last night, found it pretty boring on the whole but enjoyed some good little scraps for short spells of the race, notably with Ginsters, Ade and Will at different times.

Dont know what the rest of the field was doing but i had a 20 second gap to the car behind me by lap 13 of 25 ! :o ???

Some oddly suspect driving by a few individuals again, i couldnt believe that with a track wide enough to get 3 buses side by side, certain people still felt the need to bash their way through or try to overtake at mid apex  ::) The bully drivers tended to be in the yank tank or capris from what i saw in my lowly qually slot (17th?), although i wasnt on the receiving end i still tutt-tutted as i watched incidents around me and found myself in 10th spot by lap 3 ! :P

Enjoyed a good several lap battle with Ginsters,  8) though it was only a matter of time before his horses pulled him clear on this power circuit.

On about lap 19 whilst 11th? i got clumped mid apex on one of the fastest corners by someone who, looking at his erratic driving, i was amazed was ahead of me!?, and lost about 20-25 seconds and a place to a following Will (who had been 20secs behind!). Not seen replay yet so not going to condemn anyone but the same driver binned it and left the race about a lap later  :-X
I chased hard after Will again to get my place back but he kept his cool and i out-braked myself at the final corner with 2 laps remaining. Would have been a good fight in two 911's to the wire if not for that!..well done Will  :)

Not really a fan of that layout but you have to have all sorts of circuits that suit different cars throughout the season so not complaining. :angel:

Bit of a missed opportunity for me there, just developed a complete mental block on the final complex of corners early in the race and tensed up every time I approached it and messed it up big time for lap after lap.  Threw away a good opportunity to be fighting for 2nd come the end, as otherwise I'd have been able to hang onto the back of Prib and Assassino and attack them (along with Mike) at the end - I had so much grip left, the car was sticking just as well at the end as at the start.

Weird too, I'd even said on my team forum after testing just how much fun the final corner was, same in qually, but in the race I think I got it slightly wrong early on and then that was that, I tensed up every time and threw away the great speed I had on the rest of the lap with a missed apex or running off track at the final bend.  Took me until around lap 20 to start relaxing and getting it right again, too late by then, I'd thrown away a better result by constantly letting other cars through entering the pit straight.  Mind management needed!   :(

However, it did make for some superb close racing, particularly with Geoffers.  Two consecutive laps we were side by side round the bottom of the circuit, very enjoyable racing with space left by both of us.  8)  After gaffing again at my bogey corner Geoffers got away and then I very slowly worked on closing the 5 second gap by a few tenths per lap on average but I wasn't going to catch him.  Damn shame when he ran wide, didn't even know it was the last lap, that is so frustrating, I could feel the pain.  Felt unfair taking the place but after my multitude of mistakes I was glad to get 5th.   :)

My first GTL finish in an evening league this year.  With Virgin Media’s poor evening performance, the only place I’ve been able to race has been in an early Sunday morning league.  My new ISP’s ping is great - it’s brilliant being able to race close with another car.

Qualified 15th which was pleasing but I made my usual start and ran too wide in the T2 traffic jam trying to avoid a shunt.  Rejoined in last place, as SBG said its fun to drive back through the field.  I think he joined, after his off, just in front of me and I chased but to no avail – Yank Tank power won out.  Had quite a few laps battle with Mooijekind which was very close at times each trying to take advantage at our best corners.  Eventually I managed to pull away and then had a lonely drive into 16th.  Most enjoyable return.

Bill

Hi Bill, can I get some details of that league please (pm me if you want)

A bit annoyed with myself for losing 5th on the last lap but otherwise an enjoyable race.

Got a good start (unusual for me) & made up 3 places by Copse. Ran a bit wide at Becketts but then so did a few others. Exchanged places with Stnasky's Corvette a couple of times on the opening laps, he came past on the straights but I retook him on the corners  ;). Then settled into a great dice with Steve Holmes which saw us side by side for a considerable part of 2 laps. He got ahead twice but as he said made a mess of Woodcote each time & handed 4th place back to me.

My 4th place wasn't too comfortable though as Mike Hammer's 906 was all over me through the bends although my Capri could open the gap on the straights. I thought as long as I can get the bends right he will have a struggle getting past. I did OK for about 5 or 6 laps but ran wide at Club & left the door open.

Gradually the 906 eased away until he caught Assassino & PR. Their dice seemed to slow them up & I started to catch them. I was still 2s behind with a lap to go & thought if I can put in a good last lap & one of them makes a slight mistake I could gain a place. NO, I tried too hard & ran too wide at Club, got on the grass & spun  :'(. Fortunate only to lose one place to Steve & finish 6th.

Congrats to the podium.

Cya all next week at Nurby
Geoffers

Let me add my name to the list of people who hate this track. It's horrible. I'd much rather race at the modern Silverstone than this one. :(

Hate is such a strong word :) We'd much rather hear why you gents hate this/that so we can determine what you fancy. Constructive criticism is always welcome.

I loved the track ;D. Finally a track at which the Vette can stretch it's legs. It's wide, flowing and a fast track. Much better than some Mickey Mouse tracks :D.

Agree for all those reasons. Bout time we had a track that you can go flat out on.

for exactly what JR just said, i dont have a problem with using this sort of track. We have to have the variety to suit all car types and classes.
My 911 was easily outgunned last night on this track but i cant expect to have it always suiting a porker. It would have been easy for me to jump into a vette or Capri if i wanted but i preferred sticking to my fave come hell or high water  :P
This silverstone config favours the horsepower, the top 10 confirms that but next race the tables may be turned, so rough with the smooth and all that  ;)

If anything, the only thing that made my race a bit duller was the fact that everyone from 12th? down was so far behind by mid race  ???..can only presume they stopped for a punch up/cup of tea ! ;D

I rather liked the track, not a huge fan of fiddly slow corners, and dislike chicanes, so it was good.  But, a lot of the corners are almost the same, bang down a gear or 2 and try to find the apex on the map, so I can understand why some might not like it.  Like MJ says, variety is the key.

It didn't have enough corners! :)

I don't mind the occasional race on this kind of track but if it was a season of these... :o

This version is what racing is all about an out and out power circuit - none of those stupid 1st gear corners or chicanes.  What we need is a longer race to give the 906 a chance to exploit it's low fuel consumption and tyre wear.  More Sir, More.

Bill

well said Sir

Had a rather slick race with just a few minor mistakes from my side and one incident after a few laps. 
Have to see the replay before further comment.
Battled with Bill for a few laps and when i made a mistake it was just getting to the finish.

Again no points but made it to the finish which is almost a victory to me ;D

Can't wait for the next race

lol , it was a close race and you ended just one place behind me  :laugh:

This track is superb, it was the track that got me to jump onto GTL.

Any of you computer wizards able to work out why I kept loading all the drivers in every screen, I take it the invisable car has happened to others, and is not new, SORRY if I spoiled anyones race but it's hard to watch out for someone you can't see!

I am with Virgin Media 4meg speed if that helps.

Thanks in advance.

I already told you on page 3. If you're repeatedly loading drivers when not on the track, then most likely you don't have the skins installed.



As for the track and how good it was: Not a track type I enjoy greatly, but I can sure understand why it's great for the high HP cars. Watching ASSASSINO slide around in front of me confirmed that notion. So while I didn't like the track very much, variety is good, and so having this track in a series is also good.

But having more Spa/Suzuka type tracks for TC76 would be even better  ;)


Of course, my opinion shouldn't carry much weight here, I've done so few races in GTL lately, and won't make more then every other thursday for a while either, at best.

Didn't realise you had already 'told me' must have missed that submission.
For your info I already have Skins pack installed, so it wasn't that. Any other ideas?

Are you sure it is the latest one? Have you tried downloading it again just in case you have an older pack installed?

Thanks for the reply Paul 968, I am sure it is the most recent one 1.6, but will load it again just in case. Thanks

If there is a "tone" to my reply it's because you ignored it the first time.

In 2 years with GTL I've never seen the symptoms you describe be caused by anything else.

What made you think I 'Ignored' your reply, I  'missed it' unintentionally, regardless of my reply later that clearly pointed this out.

Hope that fixes it JPS, as seems likely. If not, let us know :)

Because back in the day I used to sport an avatar of some cartoon kid, who pressed a button to make his head explode, sort of. Couldn't find it now  :(

I.e. because I still get touchy about little things for no real reason sometimes, "blowing" them out of proportion.

Mike,.. no worries, thanks for trying to help.

Ginsters,.... I have totally uninstalled and reinstalled GTL, with the latest packs from Sim racing, this should do the trick. If I encounter the same issues next time I join the server, I simply won't race, the last thing I want to do is ruin anyone elses race due to a bug my end.
Thanks again to everyone that tried to help.

One thing you could check is to load the replay and see if all the cars are visible?

Is GTL the same as GTR and rFactor in that there's a slider to set the maximum number of cars visible? That might be the problem. :-\

Thanks Guys, will try both suggestions.

Bit confused ??? just had a personal message at 9.28 pm about an incident report for Silverstone with no time and all drivers listed   ??? been through the replay and cant see anything i did wrong, any ideas.

Nothing wrong Ade...don't worry....it was regarding any problems caused by poor connections and disco's.

Phew!! OK thanks Psuedo, thought i was in trouble there for a bit  :angel:

Got a very weird incident report sent to me...says all the drivers were involved , i didnt even start the race ???????

yep....To all drivers....its nothing to worry about...a gentleman has posted it as way of an apollogy for his dodgy connection issues during the race.  ;)

Wasn't able to tame the BMW and get consistent times under 1:40. Shortly before the race I realized I was using the wrong gear ratio, but it was to late. So needless to say I wasn't lookign forward to this race as I was struggling with the track all week.

Had a great start to the race using all of that BMW power to fly past a few guys gaining some positions, however I think at about Turn 2 or 3 I got poopeed off the track and rejoined in last. My only hope in this race was traffic as any gaps in space would leave me far far behind, unfortunatley the size of this track made traffic an impossiblity.

I started getting a whole bunch of weird Cut track warnings for slipping off track, which ultimately got me a stop go. Took the stop go, continued on, and once again slipped a bit off track and instantly got a stop go. Was already 2 laps down at this point and decided there was no need to take up room on track and retired.