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Title: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on April 23, 2008, 06:26:19 AM +0100
Practice: 20:00 (10 mins)
Qual: 20:10 (15 mins)
Race: 20:25 (22 laps) about 40 mins

Track: Curitiba (07)
Cars: FBMW

Time of Day: 14:00
Weather: Dry
Start: STANDING

Server: SimRacing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)





Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: picnic on April 23, 2008, 10:08:45 PM +0100
Is this 06 or 07 track? I've set server running 07


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on April 24, 2008, 06:58:28 AM +0100
Is this 06 or 07 track? I've set server running 07


Thanks Picnic, I should of said, 07's fine.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: will16v on April 24, 2008, 04:35:35 PM +0100
I would really like to join for this race, but its looking doubtful  :(


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 05, 2008, 01:58:11 PM +0100
I might be just blind or stupid or both but I can't see a password for this?


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on May 05, 2008, 02:25:09 PM +0100
I might be just blind or stupid or both but I can't see a password for this?

Thanks Ken, should be sorted now.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 05, 2008, 03:05:40 PM +0100
I might be just blind or stupid or both but I can't see a password for this?

Thanks Ken, should be sorted now.
:thumbup1:


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: JPS on May 06, 2008, 02:03:19 PM +0100
Started up Race 07 today after a while (been hooked on GTR2) and got told there was an update from March I believe, allowed this to download which apparantly fixes some errors.
Now I keep getting lock ups.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on May 06, 2008, 03:06:22 PM +0100
Started up Race 07 today after a while (been hooked on GTR2) and got told there was an update from March I believe, allowed this to download which apparantly fixes some errors.
Now I keep getting lock ups.

That sucks! Might be a case of having to reinstall it from scratch and see if it's any better ???


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: JPS on May 06, 2008, 07:49:45 PM +0100
Thanks for the reply Don, may have to sit this one out.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Minton on May 06, 2008, 08:06:07 PM +0100
Password dosnt seem to work ???


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ade on May 06, 2008, 08:06:59 PM +0100
just tried to get on the server and it say bad password ?????? any clues


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Minton on May 06, 2008, 08:09:37 PM +0100
Quote
just tried to get on the server and it say bad password HuhHuh any clues

Make sure that it has a cap B Ade


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 06, 2008, 09:09:45 PM +0100
That was absolutely brilliant fun. I had a complete blast battling Backo, Dan and then for the rest of the race Picnic. Swapping positions, making little mistakes, swapping positions, getting sideways. LOL. Brilliant, really made my evening having that much fun.

Track is great for racing, so wide, so slippy, lots of places to get a run on people.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: BACKO on May 06, 2008, 09:13:57 PM +0100
Whoa,amazing half of the race!!! ;D I really  enjoyed that.Thx to all and congrats. to Simon G.!!!
Now I'm looking forward for next one.
We should race two races like last season,I'm not sweat yet ;) ;D


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: picnic on May 06, 2008, 09:18:28 PM +0100
What a great race, close battles all the way. Just need larger grids  ;)

These cars are quite good fun - just can't handle the breaking reliably.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ade on May 06, 2008, 09:21:16 PM +0100
excellent race  ;D apart for hitting a wall and losing my front wing on lap 3, came  in for a new one and got back on the case chasing down Don, got back on his tail a lap down but who cares, spun again  :D and lost sight of him, finally got him on the last lap when he kindly drove off track at the chicane.. great fun thanks Don, and well done all , see you at the next one ;D


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on May 06, 2008, 09:30:35 PM +0100
Great fun out there, good clean racing from everyone 8), I look forward to Istanbul.


The Results might not be in till tomorrow, some technical problem with the import and new patch (again!)


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 06, 2008, 09:36:43 PM +0100
Enjoyed my first event in these cars. I missed all of the practice when I couldn't prise my youngest daughter off the PC (she was doing homework though!!). About time I bought her a lap top?

Managed a mid grid position after the qually and enjoyed a great battle with Mike for the first half of the race. He seemed to drop away suddenly at one point and gave me some breathing space. I nearly cocked it up when I miss read the lap board and slowed up crossing the line with one lap still to run (well it was my very first Race07 race, I didn't know you where ungraciously removed from your car as soon as the race ended). Thankfully I realised my error and got back up to speed without dropping a position.   :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 07, 2008, 07:41:45 AM +0100
Results now up - I assumed that "Matt Smith" is new forum member "smithy".

The Results might not be in till tomorrow, some technical problem with the import and new patch (again!)

It's not a technical problem - the imported is specifically built to reject input from versions of each game which haven't been seen before. This is protection against any unexpected changes in the format.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 07, 2008, 12:36:12 PM +0100
Where do I find the missing 2 secs guys? I was just running a default setup with tweaked steering ratio and BB to my taste. The last time I locked horns with Simon was UKGPL S9, when he pipped me by 1 point to take 3rd in the Championship. I see you've done a lot of driving since then Simon (the stats function here at Srou is fabulous) but I thought I should be closer since we used to be fairly evenly matched in GPL. I was struggling to get the car to turn on initial corner entry. I was having to take an angled line on the brakes so that when I let them off and turned the wheel there was enough room to wash out a little before starting the mid corner phase. Watching the replay most people seemed to be able to take a nice wide sweeping line going in. If I tried that I was generally sliding off on to the grass.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 07, 2008, 01:19:33 PM +0100
Picnic and I were using a setup made by someone else in Team Shark. It was quite lively at the rear (quite a feat for these F-BMWs), so turn in was not bad either. The fast sweeping corners was all about getting the line right and lifting a very small amount on the first left hander (thanks to Pete for that tip!) and then full throttle for the rest of it.

I do find the brakes very hard to set up on all the RACE 07 cars and this one was no different. There is so much time to be had once you have a setup you are comfortable with on the brakes. Everything goes pear shaped unless you can brake effectively.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on May 07, 2008, 01:28:14 PM +0100
I suffered big time toward the end of the race with tyre wear, I'm guessing now a lot of that might have been something to do with my brakes locking up far too easily and thus forcing me to be a little too tentative on them. I'll have to try and get that sorted for the next race and hopefully be able to put up a better show.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 07, 2008, 01:56:15 PM +0100
Pretty sure tyre wear isn't really an issue on these cars on that length of race. I do however get the feeling that the car goes off every other lap and that it must be the tyres, which actually most likely means it's me and nothing to do with the machinery that I'm blaming it on ;D. I had PD monitor running and tyre wear really wasn't particulary high.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 07, 2008, 02:03:29 PM +0100
The fast sweeping corners was all about getting the line right and lifting a very small amount on the first left hander (thanks to Pete for that tip!) and then full throttle for the rest of it.

Yes, I sussed that one. You can tell when you get it right by how quickly you get 6th, ocasionally while still exiting the right. And if you get it totally wrong not even getting 6th before the last turn!

Yes, the brakes do tend to lock easily, I think I had the pressure backed off a bit, but maybe need to move the BB a bit more.

What is PD monitor Simon?


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Don on May 07, 2008, 02:06:05 PM +0100
I think you're right Simon, because it did seem to come back again from time to time. Could it of been that the tyres were melting and then cooling down again?
I'll have to try and get the PD monitor set up again.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Jeffrey on May 07, 2008, 02:09:14 PM +0100
I think you're right Simon, because it did seem to come back again from time to time. Could it of been that the tyres were melting and then cooling down again?
I'll have to try and get the PD monitor set up again.

I can only comment by the FBMW mod for rFactor. But in that casem tyres stayed very cool normally (low 80), and got up quite a lot through corner (105 or something). So the temps are fluctuating a lot, and I think that might have been what you've felt.

The brakes are very tricky, but the key is...don't brake too much :D. These cars lack power and you need to keep revs, so slamming the brakes will kill laptimes :). Brake very slightly and let it roll through the corners.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: picnic on May 07, 2008, 02:17:46 PM +0100
Well I reckon Sharky was sandbagging last night. I can't usually get to within a second of his lap times  :(


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ade on May 07, 2008, 03:09:22 PM +0100
I just used the default setup with full steering lock and full front and rear wing, just a bit to daft with the big right foot and spun. still the lap times look OK for me ;D


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 07, 2008, 03:15:44 PM +0100
The brakes are very tricky, but the key is...don't brake too much :D. These cars lack power and you need to keep revs, so slamming the brakes will kill laptimes :). Brake very slightly and let it roll through the corners.

Valid point but it tends to contradict Simons comment about how much time you can make up on the brakes.

Ade mentions using full wings front and back. I didn't touch them but I can't remember what the default settings are.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Jeffrey on May 07, 2008, 03:23:30 PM +0100
Full wing? These things are unspinnable ;D. I used front wing 8 and rear 4 with the rFactor mod :D.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ade on May 07, 2008, 03:42:04 PM +0100
Not for me JR, I could spin a deck chair :D Ken it was the Simbin dry setup third on the list, it had front wing 5 and rear wing 9 ,I took it up to the top, 10  front and 12 rear , and put  6th gear up to the top and spaced the other gears the best i could ,but it sill red lined on the start finish straight. with these setting i could get into 6th gear before i hit Esse De Alta.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: picnic on May 07, 2008, 03:42:21 PM +0100
But you're an alien Jeff, I can guarantee you I can spin anything through running out of talent. I did at Imola and almost twice as Simon was laughing so loudly through the TeamSpeak.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 07, 2008, 04:32:03 PM +0100
I think you're right Simon, because it did seem to come back again from time to time. Could it of been that the tyres were melting and then cooling down again?
I'll have to try and get the PD monitor set up again.

I don't really recall seeing the tyre temps get to silly values tbh. Although everytime I took my eyes off the main monitor to look at PD I tended to drift onto the grass! :laugh:

Well I reckon Sharky was sandbagging last night. I can't usually get to within a second of his lap times  :(

Bah! I'm not that good at RACE 07. Probably got something to do with the fact that the only time I play it is every other Tuesday in SRou races.

Valid point but it tends to contradict Simons comment about how much time you can make up on the brakes.

Not really Ken. I just said you need to get the braking right, cause having "bad" braking loses a lot of time. As Jeff says, the F-BMWs especially are a lot about keeping the momentum. Fact is that if you're not confident on the brakes then you're going to lose a lot of time.


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: TinMan on May 07, 2008, 06:11:11 PM +0100
Default is 8 rear and 5 front but I found that I needed more than that to keep up the corner speed

TC


Title: Re: Race 07 Season 2 (F.BMW) - Curitiba - May 6
Post by: Ken Murray on May 07, 2008, 11:17:09 PM +0100
Just did a quick run with full wings, BB 52F/48R and pressure 80%.

Managed a 1:21.5!!

All well and good now though, should have been doing that last night.   ;D

Now then, Turkey will be a different proposition. I wouldn't have thought full wings was the way to go there with those long straights, having said that there are some long fast corners too. Suppose I'll have to do some testing.