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Title: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 24, 2008, 07:56:37 AM +0100
UKGPL Season 15 - Historic Division - Race 3 - 66 mod - Reims

Reims is a wide and fast track. I hope we can finally have  a race without a first lap pile up.

UKGPL Season 15 - Historic Division - Race 3 is this Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time (8:00 p.m. GMT).

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server 3.ukgpl
IP address  87.194.135.42

Race date = 29-04-2008
Track = Reims
Variant = 66mod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually time = 35 minutes
Length = 15 laps


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=77&theme=6)


Chassis assignments:

Mclaren M2B Ford Hristo Itchov, Lorenzo Galuzzi
T1F Eagle Climax Neil Stratton
Lotus 33 BRM Mike Beattie, Oliver Rakonjac
T1G Eagle Weslake David Bryant, Remy Roesz
BRM P83 John Roberts
Ferrari 246Ken Murray, Paul Skingley
Lotus 43 BRM Syd Drake, Clive Loynes
Brabham BT11 BRM Clive Gardner, Kruger Enge
BRM P261 Derek Howe
Honda RA273 Chris Bull, Amir Kamal
Brabham BT11 2.7lt Bernie Darwin
Cooper T81 Artur le Marquand, Robert Burton
Brabham BT19 Phil Thornton
Ferrari 312 Terry Worth, Tim Robey


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Kruger Enge on April 24, 2008, 08:34:47 AM +0100
There are some mistakes at the top of the thread Syd.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 24, 2008, 09:00:35 AM +0100
Thanks Kruger. I was in a hurry when I was posting, so I missed some things.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 24, 2008, 09:06:47 AM +0100
I'll try to stay on the grey bit for the first lap this time Syd.

We should be on for a good haul of points here. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 24, 2008, 10:16:42 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Kruger Enge on April 24, 2008, 10:37:52 AM +0100
You two go ahead, we'll try and tuck in :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: EvilClive on April 24, 2008, 05:31:12 PM +0100
Can I tuck in with you Kruger ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Burtoner on April 24, 2008, 11:09:21 PM +0100
oh boy i cant wait for this i enjoyed this track 2wks ago with Breasts :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 25, 2008, 12:04:50 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.

Yes, spare a thought for us poor souls. Flogging and dead horses spring to mind! I don't think there are any unique opportunities for us 246 drivers. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 25, 2008, 12:13:38 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.

I think you could add Watkins Glen and Mexico to that list too??  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 25, 2008, 07:17:34 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.

I think you could add Watkins Glen and Mexico to that list too??  :)

Nah!  Just opportunities to be shunted up the bunty, mid corner, by some 246 driver. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 25, 2008, 07:22:21 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.

I think you could add Watkins Glen and Mexico to that list too??  :)

Nah!  Just opportunities to be shunted up the bunty, mid corner, by some 246 driver. ;D

LOL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 25, 2008, 09:12:33 AM +0100
Good dice last night Ken. ;D

I will be running Reims on the BREASTS server from 8:00 tonight, Friday, for anyone wanting to sort their car out.

Probably Monday as well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Burtoner on April 25, 2008, 09:40:20 AM +0100
Spa, Reims and Monza are unique opportunities for us.  ;D I'm just afraid I've used up all the luck at Spa.

I think you could add Watkins Glen and Mexico to that list too??  :)

Nah!  Just opportunities to be shunted up the bunty, mid corner, by some 246 driver. ;D

LOL

yeah thanks Clive, i give reims another go


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 25, 2008, 05:57:27 PM +0100
Good dice last night Ken. ;D

I will be running Reims on the BREASTS server from 8:00 tonight, Friday, for anyone wanting to sort their car out.

Probably Monday as well.

I might come and run a few laps, just to guage if it's going to be possible to avoid being lapped by you before the end of the race!

Yes I enjoyed our little Rouen battle too. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 26, 2008, 04:11:11 PM +0100
Hmm...


Don't think that I am much of a threat here.  Can't do more than a handful of laps without a CTD.  Usually near the pits and with another car close behind.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 27, 2008, 11:55:19 AM +0100
Hmm...


Don't think that I am much of a threat here.  Can't do more than a handful of laps without a CTD.  Usually near the pits and with another car close behind.

That's a bugger Clive. Just when we thought you had those problems sorted.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 27, 2008, 02:19:53 PM +0100
Tell me about it.

I'm currently investigating OGL again but suffering the screen pauses again that I had before.

Just looking for Chris's instructions whem I spotted your post. :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 27, 2008, 04:43:17 PM +0100
Tell me about it.

I'm currently investigating OGL again but suffering the screen pauses again that I had before.

Just looking for Chris's instructions whem I spotted your post. :(

This light carset might be worth a try?

http://gplmz.bcsims.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=3366&view=findpost&p=23355


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 27, 2008, 08:28:14 PM +0100
Is this race definitely at Reims?   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Steven Foster on April 27, 2008, 08:41:58 PM +0100
Is this race definitely at Reims?   ;D

Har
Har
Har

 :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2008, 09:54:21 AM +0100
Is this race definitely at Reims?   ;D

LOL

It had effin better be!  I've destroyed more Lotuses than Colin Chapman ever built in my attempts to come to terms with the place.

To be honest, most of my practice has been spent trying to stop the CTD problems.

I have reduced the graphics resolution and modified the player.ini on the detailbias value as advised by RobH and PaulS and since then I have actually seen two chequered flags!

I wonder if my 1GB of RAM is marginal?

Here's hoping for tonight.  (Difficult to drive with fingers crossed.)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: bernie on April 29, 2008, 10:06:41 AM +0100
Clive its got to be driver error  ;D




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 29, 2008, 10:41:29 AM +0100
Just to confirm, it's really at Reims.  ;D
No pitstops to calculate here.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2008, 01:20:47 PM +0100
Clive its got to be driver error  ;D


Ah, trouble with the nut behind the wheel again.   :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: MikeBeattie on April 29, 2008, 10:04:40 PM +0100
Err, What the Flute happened ??? !!!

I got a PC numbing CTD with 6 laps to go, did anyone make it to the end???

Had to do a full re-boot :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Burtoner on April 29, 2008, 10:10:59 PM +0100
and i got ctd with 5mins qualifying left :(, by time i got back up and running it said the server was already running the race!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 29, 2008, 10:12:38 PM +0100
news page

 (http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc3/th_03633_news_122_3lo.JPG) (http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=03633_news_122_3lo.JPG)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 29, 2008, 10:22:30 PM +0100
I know it was due to engine, but a win is a win. And I earned it the hard way. My engine started smoking on the back straight on the very first lap. By the time I was done with my SnG I was back in 6th, way back behind the leaders. I don't know if there was some group off or what, but I caught back up to the front with in a few laps. My BRM engine got me through safely to first play, but the Lorenzo got stuck to the back of my car. We were pretty inseparable from that point on. Lorenzo c would stay in my tow, but he couldn't overtake. So I knew I had the race sewn up as long as I didn't make a mistake. But I still almost threw it away when I went wide at second chicane on lap 11, and even had to go around it on the outside to avoid crashing. Lorenzo went by, but I quickly caught him. I knew I could overtake him, even if he got by me under braking for the last turn, so I made sure I didn't outbrake myself again there. In the end it was pretty comfortable despite winning by just 0.16.
Congrats to Lorenzo and Ken for podium finishes.
I saw when Burt disconnected at the end, and even got on the track with only seconds remaing just to extend the practice session, but unfortunately you still couldn't make it back in time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 29, 2008, 10:36:00 PM +0100
I know it was due to engine, but a win is a win. And I earned it the hard way. My engine started smoking on the back straight on the very first lap.

Thought we were running Pro Rules  ;D

By the time I was done with my SnG I was back in 6th, way back behind the leaders. I don't know if there was some group off or what, but I caught back up to the front with in a few laps.

No, just you were in a fast car! :)


Never ever thought I'd get a podium here in the 246 slug. I was chuffed with my 4th place qually position. I got a perfect tow lap using the two Clives. Clive L for the first half of the lap then Clive G for the second. :)

The start was a bit chaotic with the CTD'ing Clive L's car stationary on the grid and I was surprisingly second for half a lap. Then no sooner had Syd steamed away on the back straight that he pulled up in a puff of smoke (definitely should be Pro rules :)).

For the next few laps it was me and Clive G contesting the lead, then Lorenzo and Syd caught us and there were four of us together. Slowly Clive G dropped away and then I ever so slowly fell back with the little Ferrari just not able to stay in the tow. My only hope was the two leaders having some sort of incident but I wasn't that lucky! Still the champagne tasted sweet on the podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: EvilClive on April 29, 2008, 10:39:42 PM +0100
Grats to the podium and commiserations to all those who cdt'd.  It would have been nice to have a few more cars and battles going on, it gets quite boring all on your own on those long straights!!

The first half the race was a 2 litre duel between Ken , Mike and myself with loads of slipstreaming. For a few insane minutes i wondered if we would get a 2 litre podium???  Then Mike blew his engine on back straight and it was me and Ken for a while towing each other around.
Reality was restored when Syd and Lorenzo steamed up on us and swept past, which wass ok because both Ken and I went for the tow behind the bigger cars. All was well for a lap or so then Syd (it appears ) wobbled at the end of the straight causing a little confusion amongst our happy band. In order to avoid rear ending Ken who was busy avoiding Syd and Lorenzo I put myself onto the gravel. Even though it took only a second to scrabble out I was too far back to pick up the tow and was isolated. The leading trio pulled away at a couple of seconds a lap, and behind me Art was winding his Cooper up and closing with only a few laps to go. The shame is with a 2 litre being chased by a 3 litre, is that you actually give the bigger car a tow!!! as if it needed it on those straights!!?? Art zoomed past on the start finish straight and I tried to hol onto his coat tails only to go off into the cornfields in my enthusiasm.

Phil was the next car behind and according to prib and the rate at which the gap was closing on the straights ( that is just sooo frustrating, watching someone take a couple of seconds off you when your foot is screwed to the floor in top gear!!!) he was going to catch me before the end.
But it seems he got a little carried away and took an excursion into the countryside  and gave me a healthy cushion to cling on to my 5th place  ;D
Really enjoyed those early laps. Thanks Ken and Mike.
evilClive


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Ken Murray on April 29, 2008, 11:03:48 PM +0100
Yes, forgot that Mike was also in the mix for those opening laps. It was great fun and hopefully the nimble 2 litres can get some revenge at the tricky Brands Hatch?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 29, 2008, 11:34:37 PM +0100
Got a decent start, passing Art who seems to have bogged down on the start line.  Slotted in behind Mike through T1 but I was aware of a Lotus on my inside so I tried to stay wide through T2.  Saw a Maclaren clip the grass ahead which distracted me for a split second which was all I needed to miss my turn-in point and I ended up spinning onto the grass.  I didn't beach the car in the hay so I got going without needing a shift R.  I was so keen to try to make amends I missed my braking at Virage de Muizon.  By the time I got going again Lorenzo had recovered in his Maclaren and set off after the leaders.  Bernie and Art were on Lorenzo’s tail and I was dead last and too far back to benefit from any slipstream.  As I come by the pits at the end of the lap Syd is returning to the track after a stop and go and I slotted in behind him but rather than sit there, the slipstream temps me into having a go up the inside at T2.  I get through but clip the grass on the exit for the second time in 2 laps and I'm off again!  This time I'm not so lucky and need a shift R and have to stop and go at the end of lap 2.  After my stop and go I'm way back with no chance of a tow so I just settle down and try to put some steady laps in and hope someone will have a problem and give me a second chance.  Had to wait until lap 13 when Clive Gardner makes a mistake at T2 and he's almost in range.  I'm dead last so I've nothing to loose so I push as hard as I can and I start to reel Clive in.  I just push too hard and spin out in T2 for a third time and need a second shift R.  Do a stop and go at the end of lap 14.

It must have been a great battle up front with Syd and Lorenzo climbing back up the field to claim first and second.  I was mixing it with both of them at the back of the field in the early stages so it goes to show it is possible to recover after a lap 1 problem.  At least I learnt something tonight.  Congrats to the podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Kruger Enge on April 30, 2008, 12:19:49 AM +0100
 :oops:

Dunno why, I was pretty sure we raced at Spa last week and that Reims was next Tuesday.

Duh


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Syd Drake on April 30, 2008, 07:04:48 AM +0100
Monaco was on 04.01, Spa was on 04.15 and this was then last night, 04.29. You got your dates mixed up.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Kruger Enge on April 30, 2008, 08:21:23 AM +0100
Monaco was on 04.01, Spa was on 04.15 and this was then last night, 04.29. You got your dates mixed up.  ;D
Tell me about it :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: EvilClive on April 30, 2008, 08:48:57 AM +0100
Headline
     ...Moderator's Assistant Guilty of Rule Breach...... :o

Confession time.
Woke up in the middle of the night racked with guilt ( well the thought crossed my mind) and sudden realisation that I had performed a Shift R and totally forgot the SnG!!!
Which probably means Phil was not last, and I will get a public flogging  >:(
 still enjoyed the race though ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Art on April 30, 2008, 09:27:03 AM +0100
Headline
     ...Moderator's Assistant Guilty of Rule Breach...... :o

Confession time.
Woke up in the middle of the night racked with guilt ( well the thought crossed my mind) and sudden realisation that I had performed a Shift R and totally forgot the SnG!!!
Which probably means Phil was not last, and I will get a public flogging  >:(
 still enjoyed the race though ;D

Errrrm....you and me both Clive although I have a much bigger confession to make...............I done 3 Shift-R's.  :oops: :ban: :death: :wetfish: All my own fault though. I honestly thought that there were unlimited Shift-R's and after reading your post I decided to read the Historic Rules. I'm guessing I will definately be last. lol

A BIG FAT  :oops: and it won't be happening again guys.

Enjoyed my first outing in Historic though and looking forward to the next.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Kruger Enge on April 30, 2008, 10:13:43 AM +0100
Headline
     ...Moderator's Assistant Guilty of Rule Breach...... :o

Confession time.
Woke up in the middle of the night racked with guilt ( well the thought crossed my mind) and sudden realisation that I had performed a Shift R and totally forgot the SnG!!!
Which probably means Phil was not last, and I will get a public flogging  >:(
 still enjoyed the race though ;D

Errrrm....you and me both Clive although I have a much bigger confession to make...............I done 3 Shift-R's.  :oops: :ban: :death: :wetfish: All my own fault though. I honestly thought that there were unlimited Shift-R's and after reading your post I decided to read the Historic Rules. I'm guessing I will definately be last. lol
LoL Art, three times 30 seconds, that puts you even behind me and I didn't even start the race :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: MikeBeattie on April 30, 2008, 05:45:02 PM +0100
So does this means that if you had an engine blow up you have to do a Stop & Go? Or is it only if you caused a Shift R through crashing?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 30, 2008, 06:01:53 PM +0100
So does this means that if you had an engine blow up you have to do a Stop & Go? Or is it only if you caused a Shift R through crashing?
Yes.  The rule is defined here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting).  Check the section specific to the Historic Trophy it makes a distinction between shift Rs for mechanical problems, no-fault incidents, contested passes etc.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: Art on April 30, 2008, 08:01:24 PM +0100
Headline
     ...Moderator's Assistant Guilty of Rule Breach...... :o

Confession time.
Woke up in the middle of the night racked with guilt ( well the thought crossed my mind) and sudden realisation that I had performed a Shift R and totally forgot the SnG!!!
Which probably means Phil was not last, and I will get a public flogging  >:(
 still enjoyed the race though ;D

Errrrm....you and me both Clive although I have a much bigger confession to make...............I done 3 Shift-R's.  :oops: :ban: :death: :wetfish: All my own fault though. I honestly thought that there were unlimited Shift-R's and after reading your post I decided to read the Historic Rules. I'm guessing I will definately be last. lol
LoL Art, three times 30 seconds, that puts you even behind me and I didn't even start the race :D

I know....I know....I know......Lets just say a big fat lesson learnt. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Reims (1954-72) - Apr 29
Post by: EvilClive on April 30, 2008, 08:10:26 PM +0100
lololol   seems I am not the only one to have slipped up!!! :detective: :shifty: