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Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 3 at Enna

Date: Sunday 21st August

Practice 1: 8:30pm (30 mins)
Qual 2: 9:00pm (30 mins)
Warmup: 9:30pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:32pm (60 mins)

Cars allowed: Any. (Seat Toledo, Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M and Porsche GT3 Cup will not be eligable for points.)
Weather: DRY

Notes:
(1) Please try to arrive at least 15 minutes prior to qualifying, during Practice 1.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for each championship. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Season 1 Info (http://www.ukgtr.org/series.php?series=103) for general Season 1 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/rules.php)

Gonna be missing this one as I am holiday which is a shame as I quite like this place.

Does any form of provisional request work here or is it just a no point scored situation?

No show, no points.

i like enna a lot, cant wait ;)

Looking forward to it, probably the most dangerous track of the current season, should be interesting.

No problem

After tonight's trip in the Beamer round Enna I'm looking forward to this one.

Hopefully there'll be a full server this time too, seen as so many people end up hitting those chicanes!  :o :o :)

I'm very doubtful to fill in a gap for the Div 2 race. BMW at Enna is dangerously slow compared to the GT speeds and I hate the Seat.

Dreading this. I will be performing my best sunday afternoon old man impression (not much of a stretch) here.

Enjoy Enna? Enjoy Russian roulette ???

I hope I didn't get in the way in the last race.  I was in the BMW and I think coming into the chicanes there were a couple of nervous moments with GT cars.  Thankfully almost always the GT's got to me in the slower sections, or I just lifted on the straights in an obvious way.  No-one's mentioned anything and I certainly didn't hit anyone / cause an accident.

Getting slightly off-topic but what'd happen penalty-wise if a driver from another division caused a crash?  Would the penalty cross over to their league?  Just thought I'd mention it before it happens (if it hasn't already).

From the Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules#penalties):

Looks like I'm getting a lucky run on Sunday's at the moment, should be able to take part in this one.

After two 4th places, I'm hungry for that podium finish   ;)

Eat my exhaust dust Popa!  :P >:( 8)

Well, kitty litter dust more likely lately! Lol!  :D

T

Haha! I knew you wouldn't be able to resist that one!

We've been pretty close in the last few races, let's hope it's another good one at Enna!

I'm marginally relieved that I won't be able to make this one, despite that it'll see my slender NGT championship lead evapourate. ::)

Can I join for practice and joy if I take a non scoring car? Providing there's space left, of course. With my comp working again I can't wait to get into action.

Sure, though you might want to consider the Seat in G2 rather than a G3 car as even the BMW is a bit slow compared to the bulk of the NGT cars and that's likely to create additional danger at the tyre chicanes.

Will be there after all. Be afraid, be very afraid. :o :D

If there is space I may actually take the Seat anyway as I need some more Seat times to improve my Mega Monster rank

There you go! Another Eagle of Krondor!  ;D And who's the Dog of Krondor?

Yes, I meant to do that. Thx! I'll wait in the lobby.

Hi Guys sorry to red car I knoked off at chicane but I had a big problem with my controls . Everything was great until the race started when I had the most amazing lag and the throttle and brake were back wards . I know I shoulsd have pulled out sooner but thought it would correct its self. Tried it in private practice same track and car as soon as I disconnected  and it works fine.Sorry again gerald

I decided not to race. I wouldn't be relaxed in competing as I would be afraid to put sbd out. And that's not fun. There are enough other races.  :)

Well, that was a bit 'different' lol! Grats to Dave for the win in N-GT. Shame there were only 15 or so drivers :(.

You've all seen the last of me in the Bi-T now. That thing is just too hard to drive for the Endurance races. Also made a really st00pid mistake while pitting thinking I could make it with less fuel, which I couldn't in the end, so lost 8th and ended up a dissappointing 9th.  :-\

I say all people that can should race no matter what league they're supposed to be driving in. I know I do! :D. Driving with 15 or less players is more annoying than the occasional shunt by someone who's not competing for points! I actually realised just now I've always driven point scoring cars anyways! LOL! It's a game, who cares :D!

T

Well what can I say??????
That was the best heart thumping, sweaty palmed, seat of my pants race I've competed in since getting GTR.

Good Qualiifying time for me, 2nd in class I think, drove an absolutely full on commited race, some fantastic battles with Dave and Pops, though I did end up getting a stop go for cutting the track after a "small" incident (which I won't be reporting because it was just a racing incident) Still managed to take the GT3RS full race on the same tyres and come in 9th in field dominated by GT's. This race has done me the power of good because I had just about convinced myself that I couldn't compete :-)


To everyone that turned out tonight a very, very big THANK YOU

Well what a race, exahusted now.

Qualified in 3rd with a time some 2 secs of my PB, amazing what a bit of pressure can do.

Settled into the race nicely, good steady pace following Zac and SBG round, just waiting for a mistake or to see where I could overtake.  Enna is so hard for overtaking amongst evenly paced drivers, track of certain death.
Well SBG had a spin so I was up to 2nd and catching Zac fairly easily, obviously getting passed him was a different matter.  I was on a 1 stop strategy, didnt know that Zac was on a no stopper.  Thought I would push it to the limit fuel wise, wish I hadnt, on that extra lap I spun and lost 2nd to SBG.
We then pitted at the same time and I was behind him again on the exit.

We now had some fantastic racing over the next few laps, swapped places a couple of times, wow it was hairy stuff.
Finaly got past for keeps coming up to the death tyre chicane, reackon we were playing chicken aproaching it neck and neck, fortunatly we both survived and 2nd place was mine.
Still managed to have another spin on lap 32, wow my nerves were shot, could I bring it home.  Well only just, a well twitchy last lap with SBG about 6 secs behind.
What a race, look forward to the next one guys.

There does seem to be a large amount of people on holiday atm, understandably. Shame for Div 2 that the NGT turnout especially is so low.

Cheers chaps some great racing.

Had a good quali (half hour and few cars equalled plenty of good runs) within half a second of pb and just 3 tenths off zacari in pole. Race began and I started with a very conservative pace (my secret plan). This lasted just a couple of laps when I realised that zacari was pulling away and greg was catching me. I therefore had no choice but to drive nearer to my limits, this kept me 2 seconds ahead of greg but zac still pulled away, until I spun. Greg shot past, only to spin himself a couple of laps later. I resultantly beat him into pit stop where Lister mechanics gained me a slight gap before I exited the pits (how does that work?). Greg was clearly warming to the task by now and quickly closed me again. Knowing how difficult it is to pass here I did not panic but I reckoned without his nerveless approach to the second chicane where he passed me under braking once only to hit the wall on exit and then made it stick there a couples of laps later. I think I bottled it a bit but credit to Greg for audacious move and some good ding dong stuff. Delighted with my third and congrats to Greg and Zac.

Thanks to ngt boys and non point scorers for making passing safe and easy. Hardly any of the big shunts I expected.          

I had a blast out there in a non-point scoring car (GT3 Cup). Hopefully I stayed out of everyone's way. It was fun and I got to see some close action between some of the GT and NGT classes. I was surprised that just 15 drivers made it, although on this track, that may be a blessing. Looking forward to round 4, in D1 and D2.

Ah that was me that was. I thought it was uncharacteristic for you to be trying such a boneheaded move - the control problem explains it. Not to worry, I was seething at the time because I thought my cunning plan - hard tyres and enough fuel to take me through without stopping - was shot to pieces, but I only actually lost 15 seconds or so and as it turned out that was good enough for the NGT win, despite a stupid, stupid, idiotic, I'm kicking myself now and I deserve a good hard slap spin off the tyres in the second tyre chicane on the very last lap with Tyf right behind me (although as it turns out I think he was actually a lap down!). ::) :D :-[

Might have to report myself for that one then! :D

You'd moved over to let a lapping car by and I wrung my hands (but only mentally - otherwise I'd have crashed! ;) ) and got just ahead before realising that perhaps into the first tyre chicane wasn't really such a clever place to be trying to make up a place when you probably had to stop for fuel and tyres in a few laps. Braked relatively early and hard but left it too late to allow you to get back past - thought you had made it through very slowly, I'm gutted that you had to take to the gravel, even more gutted that the stupid game gave you a completely undesereved S&G for it. :( When you caught me again a few laps later I made sure I didn't contest your pass into the final set of corners.

Oh, and annoyingly I didn't get a client replay. I've set ReplaySaver to load at startup because I kept forgetting it but when I went to check for the replay, t'wasn't there. ReplaySaver had forgotten my GTR location and wasn't saving anything. :'(

Bugger I was looking forward to seeing the replay, some great close racing to view.

You still can ;) Server replay is available from the usual source.

You know what Dave, I'll have to check the replay, in the heat of battle I may have confused the laps and it might not have been you at all :-)
I'll have a look tonight when I get home and, if it wasn't my appologies, but great battle all the same

Big congrats to Dave for the NGT win, once again masterful strategy wins the day!

Had a brilliant race despite the fact there was only 4 NGT's.

Qualified in NGT 2nd behind Tyf, then spent 8 laps chasing his Bi-T, he was faster on the straights but I was pulling it back through the chicanes. Great stuff. Tyf & I then swapped the lead about 4 times as he kept spinning and re-overtaking me. The last time stuck as I came in to pit after 30 mins.

I was pretty sure Dave wouldn't stop but I thought I might *just* be fast enough. I re-overtook Tyf and Jamera after they pitted and was way down on Dave but closing about 2 seconds a lap, nowhere near fast enough but maybe *just* enough if Dave made a mistake.

So, pushed on a little harder and inevitably went off at the last chicane letting Jamera and Tyf through, luckily Jamera immediately went off and Tyf had to pit for fuel.

I'm feeling a bit lucky to finish in 2nd. It could have been Tyf, Jamera and me in any order.

Top performance by the GT guys, very patient and courteous. I think we're beginning to understand each other now eh?  ;)

Pops.

Not sure that was ReplaySaver's fault. I for the first time in ages tried leaving replays on during an online race (as it wasn't an important one for me good opportunity). Didn't get 1 fps bug but when I went to look at the replay it wasn't there, just a 30 second instant replay one.  >:( >:(

It wasn't - photographic proof later. :D That's a relief - I can now feel proud of my win again. ;D ;D ;D

It was a great battle - you were doing really well to hold enough of a gap so I had no chance to overtake until Zacari lapped you. Once I was past you really got the bit between your teeth and it was only a lap and a half until you repassed me; I was having to take the second tyre chicane very conservatively on hard tyres, especially as I couldn't afford a stop to repair any damage or my whole strategy would be toast, so when you had a look at the inside I didn't dare conest the pass.

After that I could only try to apply as much pressure as I could - the reward was you taking the first tyre chicane a fraction too fast, running onto the gravel and spinning out of the class lead. After that it was fairly plain sailing apart from my stupid spin - which was extra stupid because I was feeling pressure from Tyf, who was not only quite a few seconds behind, but not actually on the same lap! D'oh! :-[ ::)

Sorry Aagramn, usurping your role here (I'll have the unions on me!) but couldn't resist impoting the provisional results (http://www.ukgtr.org/lm2-report.php?group=10102&event=16). ;D

Nice one Dave, I was keen for the results to appear! ;D

 ;D Nuff said

Hi Dave sorry it lost all ff and the throttle and brake are still backwards.If I try it in lfs the controls do not work at all throttle is flat and brakes on . It was all ok until halfway through the pace lap. I may have a go with dx treak or what ever. Bye for now gerald ps glad you managed to get going

I decided at the last minute to join in to get some much needed race practice. Stuck with the Z3 as the Seat might have been tricky at Enna with no practice. Qual was more about finding a setup I liked than getting a time, as I was bound to be at the back. Started with Simon's qual setup, but changed it away from the low downforce configuration. Went with a full tank and a no-stop strategy.

Started the race behind Dave, and stayed with him for a few laps until Gerald took Dave off. The next lap or so I could see Gerald going for a very similar pass and expected the worst. There was tyre smoke, Gerald missed the corner and I stupidly missed my turn-in point as I watched. A slow spin on the exit and then a rejoin some way behind Dave followed.

Gradually got in the groove and the times came down. Dave wasn't going away that quickly but I made a few silly mistakes, mainly because I kept forgetting which gear I was in and changing down one too many times. By half distance Dave was about 20 secs up the road but I was reducing the gap on some laps. Then started pushing a tad too hard to close the gap, when I should have realised that as the other NGTs pitted I was gaining places. After a few silly errors and another spin at the first tyre chicane I retired at about 2/3s distance as I felt I was more in hotlap mode than racing mode which isn't good when you are a non-scoring driver.

Enjoyed the race anyway.

Paul

hi all hope you all hand a good race was there for qualifying but gave up, to tired after just driving home for 3 hours kept falling asleep.look forward to the next race

 My race in pictures  (http://www.teamshark.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=96&Itemid=2)

Nice work Dave, I've been doing a similar write-up on the NGT Legends site (link below).

BTW, I notice Team Shark is using Mambo to power it. Who's the Mambo expert? I'm putting together a Mambo site of my own and need a bit of advice!  ;)

Well don't ask me, found Mambo confusing to administer and then my site got hacked last week  >:(

Can't find out whether it was a flaw in Mambo or the hosting company was compromised or what happened. Wasn't running the latest version of Mambo so may have been just me.

Hmmm.. I've found it quite confusing to configure also and getting hacked isn't a good sign!

Nice theme though, is that a totally custom job or an adapted existing theme?

Good story Dave and funny enough I knew I was 1 lap down lol, so was really pissed at having to pit again in the last minutes, because I made an error during my stop. :D

T

Sorry Pops didn't meam to imply Team Shark is anything to do with me  :-[ I think Mr Shark is your man for that ;)

Aha! Thanks.

That'd be me, but I wouldn't call myself and expert. I'm not really very good at web development although I have put a lot of effort into that Site. I'm a C/C++/C# type guy.

It was quite a lot of work setting up and I don't understand some of it and I know virtually no PHP.

The actual article editing is not great with the WYSIWYG editors, but it is quite well supported, lots of modules and components to do loads of stuff for you and it's got integrated user accounts with the Team Shark Gallery and Forums.

The template was one I downloaded and then adapted alot for the Team Shark website. It turned out very nicely, I really like the design I got in the end. I've used the header at least as part of the Team Shark forums too so it's all got a consistent L&F.

<rant>
Well from my expereince, Servers tend to have everything turned on under the sun by default. Takes a good few hours to de-install everything, and get it to some kindof secure form, add to that stupid n00b admin panels that mean you can't update anything from the distro maker but have to rely on the admin panel maker, who are usually worse than pathetic.

Oh I'll never forget the time (Didicated-Servers.co.uk) when I removed the Apache package to try and get back to the default RedHat one, I don't know what non Apache stuff it removed but the server would not boot afterwards. I rang up the hosting provider and they just said that "Apache is required"... Yeh like it's normal for an OS to rely on a web server to boot!  FFS stupid hosting companies staffed by muppets, I think they force fscked up software on you so you have to pay them 100 per hour to sort out the mess.

Thankfully I've found a superb provider now (RackSense) who will do whatever you ask them to do, pretty cheap too. When something went badly wrong (HDD failure) they will did everything to help sort it out for free.
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... we just assume the rant tags are on anyway Fozz ;)

Hoho  :)

Depends if I read what I wrote before hitting "Post"   :o

Lol Peewee! :D

T