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Title: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 01, 2008, 10:14:22 PM +0100
Practice 1:15:43(10 mins)
Qual 2:15:53(25 mins)
Warmup:16:18(2 mins)
Race:16:20(130 minutes)

Cars allowed: any GT1 from the UKGTR Skin Pack (v2.7.5.0) (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Road America v1.0.0.1 - download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_roadamerica).
Race Start Time: 16:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of two pit stops. You cannot take your mandatory stops at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Super Enduro
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
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Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Jeffrey on May 01, 2008, 10:22:57 PM +0100
A race on my birthday...which I can't attend ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 01, 2008, 10:46:37 PM +0100
What, the birthday or the race?  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Jeffrey on May 01, 2008, 10:49:27 PM +0100
What, the birthday or the race?  ;)

Lol, I'm sure about the race, not sure yet about my birthday :P.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Joss on May 01, 2008, 11:20:29 PM +0100
A sad day when you can't attend your own birthday ;D

What's your excuse? Washing your hair?  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Ade on May 01, 2008, 11:43:56 PM +0100
My Mrs organised a surprise Birthday bash  for me on the 17th April  ??? hold on a mo i said its race night at Silverstone ;D and promptly threw all the family out for eight O'clock so i could race :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Truetom on May 02, 2008, 07:41:55 AM +0100
My Mrs organised a surprise Birthday bash  for me on the 17th April  ??? hold on a mo i said its race night at Silverstone ;D and promptly threw all the family out for eight O'clock so i could race :laugh:

You might be the bravest man around here, Ade.  ;D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: jan duijs on May 04, 2008, 10:40:53 AM +0100
Very happy with this choice Shark ;D ;D

Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: spanner on May 04, 2008, 01:27:13 PM +0100
Good track choice Shark, just hope i can turn up. Always enjoyed this track though i need to practise it as i always get caught out on the double-right hander half way round, not sure what its called.

Can we look forward to more amazing dusk conditions with this?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: sooty1977 on May 18, 2008, 01:07:55 AM +0100
Well looking forward to this one as such a nice track,and time for a car change i reckon maybe the saleen  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Minton on May 26, 2008, 05:12:44 PM +0100
This track will suit the GT1's ,some nice medium ,fast corners and it has a great flow.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 27, 2008, 12:08:48 PM +0100
I can see this one turning into a classic finale to the first super E series.  ;D

There are still 3 people in with a shout of the championship and some good close battles for the lower spots going on too.

Team championship is close also, (except of course for the big suprise that team shark has romped away with the title already  ::))
Team pseudo are second but very closely followed by the Legends and Kerbies with only 10 points seperating all three.
I hope we get enough turning out for this to keep it interesting. It's a great track, really suited to the GT1's and as the test race showed, the weather can be a little unpredictable which will add a great bonus for strategies.
I can't wait for it.....lets do it tonight instead  ;D :laugh:

BTW, 2:00:5 is my best in the Lambo.....so far, but I can feel a sub 2 mins in the air.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Jeffrey on May 27, 2008, 12:12:14 PM +0100
There are still 3 2 people in with a shout of the championship and some good close battles for the lower spots going on too.

I can't defend myself ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 27, 2008, 12:16:59 PM +0100
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Quote from: psuedo on Today at 12:08:48 PM
There are still 3 2 3 people in with a shout of the championship and some good close battles for the lower spots going on too.


I can't defend myself

No....unfortunately, but the others may not score enough points to overtake you. Stranger things have happened.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: sooty1977 on May 27, 2008, 06:09:19 PM +0100

I can't wait for it.....lets do it tonight instead  ;D :laugh:

BTW, 2:00:5 is my best in the Lambo.....so far, but I can feel a sub 2 mins in the air.  ;)

I would like to do it tonight but i have no wheel now till tomorrow [g25] and it will take some getting used to i guess,also never had the pleasure of
manual clutch b4 so see plenty of fun ahead.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: picnic on May 27, 2008, 06:12:06 PM +0100
I would like to do it tonight

Race is Saturday, not tonight! Plenty of time to sort out the wheel ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Reign Man on May 27, 2008, 07:10:23 PM +0100
BTW, 2:00:5 is my best in the Lambo.....so far, but I can feel a sub 2 mins in the air.  ;)

I take it thats race pace Bob?

I'm dong consistant low 2:01's with the occasional high 2:00.  That however, is at temps above 22 degrees only!!!

At the online temps (15-20) it's mid to high 2:01's, but as has been the case with other cars somtimes I struggle to do 2:02's, track conditions seem to change so much.  It's very strange  ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 27, 2008, 07:16:37 PM +0100
well, race pace-ish.....I had 50 ltrs in race setup.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 28, 2008, 05:01:32 PM +0100
EEEEEEk  :o

I said the weather can be a bit unpredictable here......anybody of a nervous nature, dont go and look at the forecast for Saturday  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Truetom on May 28, 2008, 05:50:21 PM +0100
Rain!  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: mr_oily on May 30, 2008, 01:33:50 PM +0100
Might join ya for this one, is it alright even if i've not done any of the other rounds?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 30, 2008, 03:27:15 PM +0100
Might join ya for this one, is it alright even if i've not done any of the other rounds?

Yes fine, the more the merrier.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Minton on May 30, 2008, 11:43:22 PM +0100
Hope to make this one if i can get enough done at work... Think i might use the viper. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Truetom on May 31, 2008, 06:49:36 AM +0100
Damn! I have a company-family picnic and I don't think I can make it back in time.  :(  I expect to have a good time, but, you know...  ;)
Grats on the championship, Simon.  :)

TT

P.S. HB Rusky, have a good one!  :balloon: :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 10:26:13 AM +0100
Grats on the championship, Simon.  :)

Well if the game crashes at this track like it did at the test race I won't be winning anything.

Hope there is enough to make a good race, shame to see more drop out. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: sooty1977 on May 31, 2008, 10:57:58 AM +0100
I will be there to make the numbers up as the norm,not sure about my pace my Pb in sweet conditions is a 1m:59:503
But looks like it will not be sweet potato conditions  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 03:42:33 PM +0100
I will be there to make the numbers up as the norm,not sure about my pace my Pb in sweet conditions is a 1m:59:503

Err, well thats 1.5 seconds faster than me, so looks like I'm in big doodoos. No idea how to setup the car or drive the car on this circuit. Really don't like it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: sooty1977 on May 31, 2008, 04:39:31 PM +0100
R well might have been a good race but not a great turn out and i had rm,s car standing still in the middle of the track after around 5 laps.
Not his fault must have been major lag so had to swerve to avoid and that was that i just did not fancy a race with such a low count and lag  :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Reign Man on May 31, 2008, 04:45:28 PM +0100
AAARRGGH!   >:(

Got my fiirst pole!  ;D :jumpjoy:

.....Start the race and the PC decides to freeze 2/3 laps into it. 

Hope I didn't cause any drama for my teamates behind me, hope the race went well for ya.

Really enjoyed this series, I hope we can get better turnouts so it can return next season.

GRRRRR!!!!!!!

RM


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Reign Man on May 31, 2008, 04:46:40 PM +0100
Damn Sooty!

Really sorry about that  :-[

Ah crap!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: sooty1977 on May 31, 2008, 04:49:42 PM +0100
Damn Sooty!

Really sorry about that  :-[

Ah crap!!
No worrys  budd my mind was not on it today as i have a right stress head on lol

Was looking forward to being the jam in the psuedo jam sandwich tho ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Steve Holmes on May 31, 2008, 05:40:26 PM +0100
Oh well, gotta admit these super-long races are definitely not for me, not even half distance and my bum was hurting on the chair.   :D  No way I could last.

And all these tyre options really suck!  Car was much nicer on slicks in the wet, was only losing a little bit to HAL9000 on them after everyone had pitted for some other tyre.

They seemed to be getting worn or perhaps rain was heavier, so I pitted for inters, but they were just terrible, so I soon had to put for soft wets.  They seemed okay although maybe soft slicks would have been nicer, the cars handle really nicely on slicks in the wet - don't understand that.  In fact I have no idea what tyre is for what really.   :o

Anyway it was just turning into an extended test session that I was ceasing to enjoy.  Too long a race for me for sure.  Hope everyone lasted better than me.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 05:51:45 PM +0100
Ho hum.

I opted to radically change my setup just before the race as it was so sucky in qually and lucky for me it was to go from 1-3 wing to 2-6 wing. Which was good cause when the rain came the car was better with the extra wing.

I was finding it very hard in the damp conditions, but seemed to be the fastest man on track. I had made it up to 2nd position and as I was chatting to Gizmo on TeamSpeak I made a completely stupid mistake. I was pelting up the start finish straight and I looked right at Steve Holmes who was pitting at the time. Unfortunately I had drifted toward the pit wall and as I scraped it ever so gently, the game's excellent collision detection system vicously smashed my car in the other direction and against the opposite wall ripping off my wheel I think and certainly killing my engine.

Still on the server now watching the race where it's now monsoon conditions and getting quite dark as the sun has set. There are only 4 brave souls left battling it out for the final race win.

Another poor turnout I think seals the fate for the Super Endurance series. Thanks to all those that have raced this season, this was mainly a race to forget for me.

I don't think my 8th position is enough for the title, so well done Jeff, I didn't deserve it anyway! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Minton on May 31, 2008, 06:01:18 PM +0100
Wondeerd what you had got up to simon as it was a weird place to have an accident.....Race for me was ok , was enjoying the conditions and trying to be as smooth as possible. Ended up blowing the motor so watched dave and Gazza having a great battle for about 15 mins was good to watch . 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Jeffrey on May 31, 2008, 06:05:38 PM +0100
I don't think my 8th position is enough for the title, so well done Jeff, I didn't deserve it anyway! ;D

If your 8th you'll have 200 points as well, and then the stupid "more attendences" rule come into play so that makes you the champwinner.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Busi on May 31, 2008, 06:05:45 PM +0100
I found myself with a free Saturday afternoon so I downloaded the track with just 15 minutes to official praccy. It's quite nice and in the wet as well, even if I struggled again with fps on those conditions...

The start was eventful. I made some overtakes but also had some mistakes. Sorry Pseudo (I saw you complained about my move with your headlights), but we were side by side and I even got to the grass to make sure there was no contact.. sorry anyway :-\

Then the rain came, I was first to pit with Dave and leapfrogged him, but more mistakes specially in the long long right hander cost me big time. That was inters at the first stop but they were soon not working for so much water so pitted early a 2nd time for hard wets. When everybody else pitted I was few seconds before the 2nd-3rd-4th-5th group, but I decided to give up with my problems.

Hope the remaining people are having a good race :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 06:42:40 PM +0100
If your 8th you'll have 200 points as well,  :)

Really? In that case I might still win as I took ballast so bonus point! ROFL.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 06:44:48 PM +0100
Well done to the 3 finishers btw! Yes only 3 made it to the end. Gizmo winning! Yee haaw! I watched till the end with Gizmo driving at about 60% pace for the last 45 minutes conserving fuel so he didn't have to make another stop, LOL. Lucky for him HAL kept making mistakes otherwise it would have been 2nd. I think ultimately he'd have been better off going at "full" speed and pitting to get more fuel, but his strategy paid off in the end handing him the victory in the dark and miserable weather.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on May 31, 2008, 07:08:46 PM +0100
That was so much hard work.....but I loved it  ;D

Mixed feelings....a podium finish.....but I was still last  :-X :laugh:

Had a sneaky feeling we may have rain today, so went with an 2 - 8 wing config...back end was working great with it, but when the Monsoon hit the front gave up wanting to turn and I ended up fighting it all the way.
Dave and myself must have had the same strategy, I left it as late as I dared on slicks after the rain came and when I did pit for soft wets filled the tank to the brim aswell. I reckoned that if the rain stayed (and it didn't look like clearing) I would maybe just get home with one more stop.
Took my second stop with 1 ltr of fuel left and simply short shifted for the entire 3rd stint to try conserve the refill to the end. for the last 15 ish laps I was watching the time between the three of us left in closing up steadily and thinking to myself 'Dave will pit this lap, Dave will pit this lap, Dave will pit this lap.'
but no....'Dave didn't pit ANY lap'  :P He must have been going round in 6th gear to save that much juice.  :o

Congrats to Simon on the champ win.
And to Team Shark for the title.

 :clap: :notworthy: A very big thanks to Simon too for putting this series together...it has been my favourite from S 7 here.

It really would be a great shame if the super e has to end through lack of numbers, Imo the day/time has been the biggest culprit.....I would love to see it continue on a better time slot....SO FOR EVERYONE THAT HASN'T TRIED/BEEN ABLE TO TRY IT YET.....PLEASE TURN UP FOR THE
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https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4731.0
TEST RACE..... ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 31, 2008, 07:31:04 PM +0100
Replay and results now up. Shark is da champion! Sorry, JR, terrible luck to lose it on attendance but dem's da rules. :laugh:

That was completely crackers - I really didn't have good pace but what I lacked in talent I just about made up for in consistency and experience. I figured there was a good chance the full race would be dry so went with 1/4 wing - silly boy.  ::) :laugh:

As soon as the rain started I was slithering about with tyre temps dropping like a stone, so I pitted almost immediately for soft wet fronts and hard wet rears. Still didn't really have good pace and with the rain getting worse I was struggling to get tyre temps up to 60 at either end. Pitting so early meant I had to drive with half an eye on fuel consumption. Even so, I had to pit with over an hour left - a huge stretch in the Lambo if I wasn't to stop again. Luckily I had some practice at a previous round driving the Lambo in maximum fuel conservation mode and Hal's almost constant mistakes meant I could really extend the car's range without losing the lead. I even had enough left at the end to do another lap had I not timed the start of my final revolution correctly. ;D

Comedy moment of the race was Gazza getting a massive run on me out of the last corner, and then pulling out of the draft far too aggressively, smashing into the pit wall on the right and then the other wall on the left. Bad luck, you were miles quicker than me but presumably needed a splash and dash at the end? Would've been interesting...

Was really atmospheric driving into the fading light with the rain pouring down - if only we had some proper monsoon tyres available!

Well done Hal and Bob for finishing - talk about a race of attrition! A great way to end Season 7 and my first win for over 6 months. And Lambo win the manufacturers - hurrah! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Gazza49er on May 31, 2008, 07:38:39 PM +0100
Was getting eaten up on the straights in the dry and now i see why, i had a higher wing than the top few but as the rain came it really helped. Went in for hard wets when most others changed tyres, they worked well and was doing quick times, then the rain got harder and track became very wet right at a good time as i was pitting anyway. Went for soft wets and was 10 secs behind Dave but caught him within 1 or 2 laps. I was quicker but was really hard following in the spray and judging braking points. Got a good run on him up the finishing straight but i moved out of his slipstream to quick and i found myself scraping along the pitwall, not a big problem i thought just get off the wall and go again but think i had similar thing to simon when the car suddenly smashed against some invisible thing and killed just about everything.

Grats to the three that finished.

Special grats to Simon on the championship  :)

Thanks to everyone involved in putting this series on, this has been my fav one this season and would be a real shame to see it go  :(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: H@L9000 on May 31, 2008, 08:23:07 PM +0100
Wow, what a race :o

Qualified well and was looking forward to a nice dry race ::) RM was crazy fast and it was a damn shame that his PC crashed. I saw a little lag from your car RM just before you went so I was ready for your car to stop dead in front of me, which it did but I lost very little time and I did not hit your car. After that I was thinking I have got it in the bag, LOL, wrong! I noticed black clouds way before I was due for my first pit stop window which was a very small window for a 2 stop race. It started to rain HARD and I had to come in early changing to a 3 stop race.

In the next stint I was trying to calculate if I could still make only 2 stops as the fuel consumption was down in the wet. I figured that I would be about 20L to short which was too much to conserve by slow driving I thought. After a while the rain got harder and I had to come in early again to change to soft wets as my hard wets were all cold as ice. This meant that it was definitely a 3 stop race now.

After the 3rd stop Dave had a big lead but I was catching him to start with but the rain got REALLY HEAVY.

and Hal's almost constant mistakes

LOL, yes indeed. I was all over the place and having a big problem staying on the road towards the end. My 2-4 wing and the fact that I was faster as Dave was saving fuel meant that I could smell victory but it effected my ability to stay calm. I believe that I could have taken Dave in the championship if I could get 1st today which did not help my nerve. I fell off many times and Psudeo was close at the end as well which added to the pressure. My soft wets were all Blue on the XD HUD at the end and my setup was as bad as my driving in the wet  ;D I did also think that if I caught Dave I would never be able to make a move without binning it because I was on a fine line as it was.

Anyway a great race and My best result so far, Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy  :D

SE was the best championship IMO. We had it all, Sunset, sunrise, wet, dry, multiple pit stops and some great racing not to mention an awesome track list. Thanks for putting this one on and I do think that it would be a shame to loose the SE (give it another try at a different time slot or something, go on, you know you want to  :))

Thanks to all drivers and organisers and congrats to Dave and Psuedo (how difficult was that today?) and the championship podium.

H@L9000


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 31, 2008, 10:13:48 PM +0100
Don't understand how I'm tied for the championship win as I had my usual 10kg voluntary ballast, but it's not showing up in the results and no extra point to see me clear of that slow-coach Jeff ;)?

Have to say I agree this is my favourite championship (and nothing to do with winning it), but we need more numbers. I think this was the lowest attendance so far (12) and the highest we had was 18 twice, but we need 20+ every race really.

Trouble with the race day/time is that Sunday is booked and week nights I don't believe will be well attended because people get home at different times from work and some have earlier starts than others and therefore taking 3 hours in your evening is a bit tricky. Not sure it's all about the day/time anyway as I'm not sure how popular this length really is deep down. Many show an interest, but when it comes down to it don't actually want to do a solid 2 hours+ of racing.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 01, 2008, 10:58:48 AM +0100
Don't understand how I'm tied for the championship win as I had my usual 10kg voluntary ballast, but it's not showing up in the results and no extra point to see me clear of that slow-coach Jeff ;)?

We didn't run GTR2Manager yesterday, so no ballasts were generated. An omission on my part :-[ but it has resolved itself correctly. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: psuedo on June 01, 2008, 11:22:29 AM +0100
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Sorry Pseudo (I saw you complained about my move with your headlights), but we were side by side and I even got to the grass to make sure there was no contact.. sorry anyway

no problem Busi, You were right in my blind spot and I thought your were tucking in behind and clipped my rear. Appologies for the 'flash', first lap contacts always frustrate me, especially in such long races.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 7 Super Endurance - Road America - May 31
Post by: Joss on June 01, 2008, 07:49:08 PM +0100
Nice one on the race win Dave, and wel done on the championship Simon ;D

...then the stupid "more attendences" rule come into play...

Agreed.