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Title: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on May 16, 2008, 10:37:01 PM +0100
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (42 laps = ~80 mins)

Track: Brands Hatch (GP) v1.0  (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.0))
Cars allowed: Any TC65 excluding the Alfa, and the Lotus Elite.
Time of Day Setting: 18:00
Start: STANDING
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.ukRules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0).
(3) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

(5) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=178;theme=5)



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mr.BMW on May 17, 2008, 12:14:57 AM +0100
[Cars allowed: Any TC65 excluding the Alfa.

Makin enemies, Gin. Enemies for life


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on May 17, 2008, 10:40:04 AM +0100
LOL that was Pseudo's decision ;) Honestly, we did mull over it a lot but the Alfa is just too good around here and the track is great for enduro so.......

Realise we owe you Alfistas one :) 



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on May 17, 2008, 10:41:39 AM +0100
Errrrrmmm.....whats an 'Alfa'? ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mike Hammer on May 17, 2008, 10:57:55 AM +0100
Errrrrmmm.....whats an 'Alfa'? ???


They made this game see, called it "GT Legends". In this game, you race an Alfa around various circuits. It's an awesome game. But, to please a larger crowd, they added a lot of fluff, Cobras, Fezza's, Pantys, GT 40's and all that jazz, so even those who did not realize the magnificence of the Alfa would be drawn in.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 17, 2008, 11:48:53 AM +0100
Errrrrmmm.....whats an 'Alfa'? ???


They made this game see, called it "GT Legends". In this game, you race an Alfa around various circuits. It's an awesome game. But, to please a larger crowd, they added a lot of fluff, Cobras, Fezza's, Pantys, GT 40's and all that jazz, so even those who did not realize the magnificence of the Alfa would be drawn in.
I thought it was that stringy stuff you got in posh salads


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: JPS on June 06, 2008, 11:44:27 AM +0100
I am going to try and make this one (great circuit). I have had to do a complete reinstall and I have forgotton how to get to the the following file:

Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

Please treat me as a complete novice when it comes to computers, step by step please. :)
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 06, 2008, 11:52:38 AM +0100
Navigate to your GTL install.

Inside the GTL folder you will find another folder called 'UserData'. double click that folder and you will then have another folder in your name (JPS1)

Inside that folder is a file called 'JPS1.PLR'. Open that in notepad and scroll down to the appropriate lines, alter them as above and save the file again.

Done.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: BillThomas on June 06, 2008, 11:56:15 AM +0100
Sorry, I won’t be able to take part in this race as I’m taking a couple of beautiful rich sisters to St Austell for a couple of days.  ;D

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: JPS on June 06, 2008, 12:20:42 PM +0100
Thank you for helping me out Psuedo.

I tried to install the track, but when I go into the sim in just crashes as I press the 'Go Race' button with Brands selected.
I downloaded Le Mans without any issues.
I used Win Rar for both although the Brands file seem to break up and did not come up with a simple locations folder as did Le Mans. Has this got something to do with Mod Man. :'(

Plus I don't seem to be getting any force feed back effects in GTL. I use a G25 and have gone through the set up page under controls and enabled Full Feed back, however unlike GTR2 it doesn,t seem to have G25 listed under the Force Feeedback page.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 06, 2008, 12:37:56 PM +0100
I have just re-downloaded and installed the track with no problems.

when you open the download in winrar, you should see a folder called GameData. Single click this folder to highlight it and then extract directly to your GTL folder. This will place all the files into the locations folder but will not disrupt anything else.
You don't need to worry about the 'extra' files created by ModMan....just ignore them.

As for FF, GTL was released before the G25 was made so it doesn't contain a specific profile for it....the MoMo Racing profile seems to be a pretty good one though.
Also make sure you have the 'reverse effects' checkbox ticked.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: JPS on June 06, 2008, 02:17:10 PM +0100
I have just re-downloaded and installed the track with no problems.

when you open the download in winrar, you should see a folder called GameData. Single click this folder to highlight it and then extract directly to your GTL folder. This will place all the files into the locations folder but will not disrupt anything else.
You don't need to worry about the 'extra' files created by ModMan....just ignore them.

As for FF, GTL was released before the G25 was made so it doesn't contain a specific profile for it....the MoMo Racing profile seems to be a pretty good one though.
Also make sure you have the 'reverse effects' checkbox ticked.

Pseudo :angel:, once again thank you for your kind help, all sorted.
Is there a (GTR 2 XD) type programme one can load for GPL?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: sooty1977 on June 08, 2008, 09:29:30 PM +0100
I will have a go in this one i reckon as its a track i really like,also will take the cortina out as from looking round the net its a good 2nd choice over the alpha i believe ???
Best time so far in mid to low 49s ,but kinda find it hard to be consistant in these cars compared to the panty !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Blunder on June 09, 2008, 09:01:13 AM +0100
What planet are you from Sooty!? ;)
I can only managed a few 1.53's !?
If there is a secret to your blindingly fast pace, please will you share it!?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: mr_oily on June 09, 2008, 02:44:45 PM +0100
Yep that is definitely quick Sooty, did you notice we're recruiting?  ;D

Think its gonna have to be the Cortina here too, it's a lovely car and really nice that the Alfa's not about to give it a spanking for a change  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 09, 2008, 04:13:51 PM +0100
You're all lightweights, taking a euro-car, come join me in consuming the annual oil output of a small independent republic as I attempt to keep the Mustang on the track.  Haven't tried it at Brands GP yet but I just know it will suck rock.   ;D

I love Brands GP, so I'm really looking forward to this one.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: mr_oily on June 09, 2008, 04:46:24 PM +0100
Hahaha Steve I salute you for such bravery, however i'll be doing so as I cruise on by in my Chapman powered beauty, facing the right way I might add  ;D

Really looking forward to this one too...i've never driven this layout either, that last chicane is hilarious!



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: sooty1977 on June 09, 2008, 05:31:10 PM +0100
What planet are you from Sooty!? ;)
I can only managed a few 1.53's !?
If there is a secret to your blindingly fast pace, please will you share it!?  ;D

No secret i can only assume this game suits me more than gtr2 as i am no were near the fast guys there and the 49s are with quala setup  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: sooty1977 on June 09, 2008, 05:35:36 PM +0100
Yep that is definitely quick Sooty, did you notice we're recruiting?  ;D

Think its gonna have to be the Cortina here too, it's a lovely car and really nice that the Alfa's not about to give it a spanking for a change  ;D


Yer i did notice i was very tempted to have a look at it aswell but i have only just formed my Snails Pace Racing team,which relay is mainly for gtr2.
I do like your choice of car colour just have a look at my saleen to see why  ;D
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 09, 2008, 07:41:11 PM +0100
Mustang on the track.  Haven't tried it at Brands GP yet but I just know it will suck rock.   ;D

Think both the Falcon and Stang both suck rock. The Tina might have the edge but I aim to pick off a few, well Pseudo anyways  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 09, 2008, 08:07:16 PM +0100
I so want to do this but if it's the same track we've used several times before with the broken cut detection through Dingle Dell I've always found it an exercise in frustration. ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Geoffers on June 09, 2008, 09:39:10 PM +0100
A fix for the cut track problem is available here:

http://forum.rscnet.org/showpost.php?p=3385512&postcount=63


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 09, 2008, 09:49:48 PM +0100
A fix for the cut track problem is available here:
http://forum.rscnet.org/showpost.php?p=3385512&postcount=63

Can't seem to download the attachment. ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Truetom on June 09, 2008, 09:57:02 PM +0100
A fix for the cut track problem is available here:
http://forum.rscnet.org/showpost.php?p=3385512&postcount=63

Can't seem to download the attachment. ???

 ??? What?  ???

 :shifty:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Geoffers on June 09, 2008, 10:24:49 PM +0100
Oops, sorry that one doesn't seem to work!

Try here:

http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167906&postcount=1


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mr.BMW on June 10, 2008, 12:49:52 AM +0100
Haven't got a single cut track warning at all yet running this.

Getting pretty consistent low 1:50s with the rare dip into the 1:49 area in the Cortina - this track is alot of fun, albeit very thin - can see some sparks flying in this one.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Truetom on June 10, 2008, 07:39:24 AM +0100
Fun  ???  I keep yawning in any car here. Is there any footy on Sunday?  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 10, 2008, 08:35:01 AM +0100
Haven't got a single cut track warning at all yet running this.

Getting pretty consistent low 1:50s with the rare dip into the 1:49 area in the Cortina - this track is alot of fun, albeit very thin - can see some sparks flying in this one.
Me neither


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 10, 2008, 09:51:26 AM +0100
Fun  ???  I keep yawning in any car here. Is there any footy on Sunday?  ;)

TT I'm shocked, you dare criticise the hallowed tarmac of Brands Hatch.   ;D  You're not driving it right if you don't have a big grin on your face, interspersed with terror as you spin off.   ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 10, 2008, 10:04:48 AM +0100
He will be very bored if he waits till Sunday for it.....The race is on Thursday  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 10, 2008, 10:29:28 AM +0100
not sure if i will race here thursday, as stated before, this TC65 class bores me these days, especially for 80mins, but think the allure of Brands GP will be just too strong to resist, especially being my 'home' track.
Will prob take a 'tina as its just so British for Brands Hatch  :euro:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 10, 2008, 10:33:34 AM +0100
PS..is the Elite counted as TC65 or GT65? Dont suppose there is any chance of having it included ? as would much rather race one of them around Brands and from past battles it seemed on a par with the Jag Mk2


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 10, 2008, 10:44:42 AM +0100
Yeah, I think MJs suggestion is a good one, the Elite offers no 'unfair advantage' but will be a good match for several of the TC65 cars.  Be nice to see it included.   :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Truetom on June 10, 2008, 10:51:07 AM +0100
He will be very bored if he waits till Sunday for it.....The race is on Thursday  ;D

DOH!  :D   Is there a footy on Thursday?  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: mr_oily on June 10, 2008, 12:00:30 PM +0100
Sort it out chaps, it'll be great fun. I've got high hopes of the hard but fair exchanging of mirrors and door handles for the full two hours.

Don't all be bowing out now!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 10, 2008, 05:15:56 PM +0100
PS..is the Elite counted as TC65 or GT65? Dont suppose there is any chance of having it included ? as would much rather race one of them around Brands and from past battles it seemed on a par with the Jag Mk2

Looking at GTL rank it might be a tad faster than the slower TC cars but there's certainly nothing to suggest that it shouldn't be included here. I've got no time to test it but unless any one has any objections then it seems a good idea to me. Hopefully we will see it and the jag, abarth etc. even though they are off the pace.

Its also something we will consider for future Enduro races, ta :).   


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Alex vV on June 10, 2008, 09:32:44 PM +0100
To add to the ambiance I'm planning to drag the Jag around Brands so you fast guys have something to do (that is: lapping me).

Only a bit worried about tire wear. The heavy machine seems to eat the front tires.
I noticed that the wear is 2 after 3 laps. Is that bad and what does it actually mean? 2% tire wear, 2 inches, 2 ?????

Any help much appreciated.

ps. or is it a problem that I stiffed up the front to prevent massive understeer?

 ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Jeffrey on June 10, 2008, 09:40:38 PM +0100
Wear in GTR2 means nothing really, it's only a scale, so I suspect it's the same in GTL.

Wear of 30 is tyres worn message in GTR2. 10-20 Noticable less grip, 20-30 Very little grip, tyre change window. 30+ Is tyres worn and useless tyres.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Tibernius on June 10, 2008, 09:52:37 PM +0100
I've had two cut track warnings in the same place while on the track now. :(
It's the 200 board before the chicane. I had all 4 wheels on the track but I still got the warning. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 10, 2008, 10:15:05 PM +0100
I've had two cut track warnings in the same place while on the track now. :(
It's the 200 board before the chicane. I had all 4 wheels on the track but I still got the warning. :-\

Don't panic, there's no need to dl a fix and we have a workaround in place for Thursdays race :)   


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 11, 2008, 11:01:14 AM +0100
are you putting some cones out ?  ;)  ;D

Ta muchly for adding the elite, gives me something a little more fun to drive around the mighty Brands.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 11, 2008, 11:13:30 AM +0100
I got the cut warning just by running the left wheel along the white line just where Tibs mentions.  I thought I'd just avoid that track edge, but if there's a work around, cool.

Mid 51s in the big Stang, seem to spend the whole lap waiting for the front to get itself turned in, think the front left is going to take a hammering.  How long will a pitstop take when you put 2,500 litres of fuel in?  :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Alex vV on June 11, 2008, 08:18:56 PM +0100
Wear in GTR2 means nothing really, it's only a scale, so I suspect it's the same in GTL.

Wear of 30 is tyres worn message in GTR2. 10-20 Noticable less grip, 20-30 Very little grip, tyre change window. 30+ Is tyres worn and useless tyres.

Thanks Ruskus. Now I finally know when to change tires.  :)

ps. I still expecting a heavily drifting Shark car appearing in my mirrors after 7 laps to put me 1 lap down  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Jeffrey on June 11, 2008, 09:10:01 PM +0100
ps. I still expecting a heavily drifting Shark car appearing in my mirrors after 7 laps to put me 1 lap down  ;D

Well, I don't know who will be driving it, but I'm sure it won't be me ;D.

Only "way around" the dodgy c/t warnings, is to turn flags off completely. Probably the best/easiest way to do it, as the rest of Brands isn't  really cuttable, so probably no danger of peeps cutting everywhere :).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mr.BMW on June 11, 2008, 11:51:48 PM +0100
must be a bug for some people, I still have not gotten a cut track warning even on my fastest laps


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Truetom on June 12, 2008, 05:21:31 AM +0100
Pah, got several times while totally on track and once sitting in the sand trap on the outside of Druids.   :no:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Adam Parle on June 12, 2008, 08:17:44 AM +0100
Something unrelated to cut warnings - but more worrying for me .... I keep losing the connection to the server without even managing to complete a lap.

Dodgy GTL install perhaps?

Any other suggestions welcome.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Alex vV on June 12, 2008, 08:25:11 AM +0100
but more worrying for me .... I keep losing the connection to the server without even managing to complete a lap.
Dodgy GTL install perhaps?

An upgrade of the modem's firmware did the trick for me.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 12, 2008, 11:15:00 AM +0100
ive not had a single cut warning either so i dont know what you guys are doing wrong?  ???

Anyone else tried the elite yet? Not sure if its a bit too slow to be competitive here. I was struggling to catch an Abarth driven by the AI on track  :o :(
Feels lovely to drive but is it quick enough?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: mr_oily on June 12, 2008, 01:00:50 PM +0100
ive not had a single cut warning either so i dont know what you guys are doing wrong?  ???

Anyone else tried the elite yet? Not sure if its a bit too slow to be competitive here. I was struggling to catch an Abarth driven by the AI on track  :o :(
Feels lovely to drive but is it quick enough?

Same here m8, i've run quite a few laps around here now and no probs - must not be over far enough or something!?

Not sure about the Elite, the best time ever in it at the Bude is 01:52.433 so it's in the right area. You should be able to smoke some Abarths though, the best time for those is 01:53.520  ;D

I wonder if comaparethemarket.com have catheters.... 



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 12, 2008, 08:30:30 PM +0100
i cant get in the game in the lobby, i just get all your names looping around

not been any skinpack updates recently has there?
Same brands GP we used last time?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 12, 2008, 08:42:26 PM +0100
not been any skinpack updates recently has there?
Same brands GP we used last time?

Same as last time, yes. I think you're the only one having problems. ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 12, 2008, 08:48:22 PM +0100
found out why..i had removed the srouk TC65 skins when testing things the other week Skinpack link for filefront doesnt work in downloads page  :(  Tried finding it for 10mins but no luck. The other link to gizmo site was stating 4hrs to download !  :o 

Thought i still had the srouk skinpack on my pc to reinstall but not. D'oh  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 12, 2008, 09:17:52 PM +0100
Rubbish - qualified much higher than I expected in (IIRC) 6th, then binned it on the first lap trying to give Ade_B's badly warping car some room. Went off again a lap or two later and struggled to rejoin thanks in part to Blunder's really badly warping car. >:(

I shouldn't have even started - I'm far too tired and after binning it for the nth time in front of Will I decided to sod off and fall asleep during the LM24 qualifying instead.

I think that will be the last GTL race I ever do, except maybe for the odd Healey race. I just have no feel at all for the cars, doubly so on race fuel.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: TinMan on June 12, 2008, 09:38:38 PM +0100
Was going really well in the game - having some good dices with Truetom. Came into the pits and like a plonker I hit the wrong key and was out of the game. Totally stupid error.

TC


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Geoffers on June 12, 2008, 09:39:31 PM +0100
Arrrrrrrrgh. Going really well dicing with Sooty for 4th when game froze for 3-4secs which let Sooty past & allowed PR to catch up with me. Then a lap later along S/F straight got a CTD. Dammed AV had decided to notify me it was having a prob & shutting down. By the time I got back in the car was in the barriers at Paddock. Hope it didn't cause you any probs PR. Tried rejoining but the car was all over the track so quit.

I might get a decent race in one of these Enduros one day! ::)

Geoffers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Minton on June 12, 2008, 09:54:59 PM +0100
Doh!!   tried to race with 4 laps worth of fuel !! :( Shame was having A great battle with Bara and Oily.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Adam Parle on June 12, 2008, 10:12:20 PM +0100
Bad start, stationary car (lag), car on roof - race over.

That's basically what happened - I can't be arsed to expand on it.  I'm astonished the lagging car never discoed - but the stop starting made approaching it impossible.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Alex vV on June 12, 2008, 10:22:38 PM +0100
Was totally off the pace with the mark II, but somehow finished 13th  ???

Great race/ambiance.. more doomy rather than the cosy Nurb

Hope LM is going to be as fun as this, especially the first lap  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: pribeiro on June 12, 2008, 10:24:02 PM +0100
Arrrrrrrrgh. Going really well dicing with Sooty for 4th when game froze for 3-4secs which let Sooty past & allowed PR to catch up with me. Then a lap later along S/F straight got a CTD. Dammed AV had decided to notify me it was having a prob & shutting down. By the time I got back in the car was in the barriers at Paddock. Hope it didn't cause you any probs PR. Tried rejoining but the car was all over the track so quit.

I might get a decent race in one of these Enduros one day! ::)

Geoffers
Sorry to hear that Geoffers. Dont worry, because i was right beside you when i saw your car suddenly
disapear  :o  

After a few weeks off, due some problems, it was great to be back  :D
Congratulations to my team matey Baracus  :clap: astonishing pace.
Congrats aswell to Sooty  :)
And thanks to all backmarkers, great job  :yes:

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Blunder on June 12, 2008, 10:24:09 PM +0100
Sorry all, looks like I was lagging badly and caused you all a few issues!?
Can't grovel enough!?  :-[
I wasn't sure what was going on ? with game re-syncs often!?
Never had that before!?
Only thing I can put it down to is my online back up had kicked in when I exitted the game.
Upload speeds are minimal , 25kb/s !? but it must have made the difference!?
Will thump it with a big hammer and plead for all your forgiveness?

Sorry all  :-[

Martin



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Sandor M on June 12, 2008, 10:27:14 PM +0100
Was totally off the pace with the mark II, but somehow finished 13th  ???

Well, there were only 14 people on track at the end and I was the one behind you  ;D

Had a fun race with a few minor mistakes and 1 major error. Blocked the the track after a fast corner what causes a problem for an other driver.
He could't avoid me anymore ......
Sorry for the trouble .  Up to the next one



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 12, 2008, 10:28:28 PM +0100
Saw lots of oppurtunities for a good race but never got into much fun tonight :'(

Following TT and Tinman who were having a great battle but despite pushing desperately couldn't join them. Tried pitting early and jumped the unlucky Tinman and was catching TT a little until my big shunt. Thought it was hard driving a Falcon around here but its nothing compared to driving a badly broken (think deathstar at beginning of empire strikes back) Falcon and to top it all I ran low on gas and had to pit for a refuel. Respectable finish gone  :)

Ta to Pseudo for some fun there and congrats to Bara, Sooty and PR, good to have you back.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mr.BMW on June 12, 2008, 10:37:40 PM +0100
The start of the race threw me off because the last thing in the chat window was "Rolling" By Parle and I was confused as to if this was a rolling start or not. I lost 3 places off the bat dropping to 13th which unfortunately put me behind Blunder who I had to drive behind in Quali. The downside to this is that his lag was rubber banding him so bad it was ruining my line as I had to make adjustments to avoid his car (As well as two occasions when he lagged right into my position launching me into mid air and caused me two off track explorations :( ), then he rubber bands way in front again. Followed in persuit for a couple of laps then I saw some smoke with a frozen Blunder car, swirved to miss it and hit Steve right in the side - luckily it wasn't a direct T-Bone and I was able to pick up and chase again.

Gave Steve a bit of a tap going into Surtees as I was comming in to hot - luckily he was able to recover quick enough that neither of us lost any places as I let him on by. Unfortunately he lost it a bit later at Hawthorn Bend I do beleive. Was chasing down Blunder and Geoffers after this, and a few laps I had caught up. Geoffers spun (which may have been due to Blunder lagging through him) right in the middle of the Druids, and I had to make evasive action to miss his rear end - Salvaging my one last headlight. I was in 11th untill my first pitstop, and only dropped to 14th by the time I got out. I was on my own for quite a few laps untill everyone started pitting. Got back up to 10th by going past pitters alone - then I caught up  to Ginsters and Pseudo and we had quite the fight for a few laps, which luckily for me put me into 7th by the end of it - giving me my best finish ever.

I carried the Lotus home for the last 7 laps, with about a 20 second gap of both 6th and 8th so I was in no rush to crash off track. My Pit strategy was my saving grace for the first portion of my race.

To bad to see you drop to 4th Oily :( You had a great quali. See you all next week!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 12, 2008, 10:38:19 PM +0100
Replay and results available


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 12, 2008, 10:56:08 PM +0100
I enjoyed that...always enjoy Brands and the Mini though.

Was a bit of a downer at the start...Martins badly lagging car caused an almighty pileup into T4 on lap 1...cars seemed to be flying everywhere and I ended up running the entire race with busted suspension and no lights after it.  :-X

Had a couple of tussles but for the most part was hotlapping...not much chance of keeping a Falcon behind me for very long (and SBG makes me nervous  ;)) so my 'race' only lasted a couple of laps really.

Quite happy getting the little mini into the 1:51's though.

Next week should be an EPIC.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: sooty1977 on June 12, 2008, 11:00:14 PM +0100
Arrrrrrrrgh. Going really well dicing with Sooty for 4th when game froze for 3-4secs which let Sooty past & allowed PR to catch up with me. Then a lap later along S/F straight got a CTD. Dammed AV had decided to notify me it was having a prob & shutting down. By the time I got back in the car was in the barriers at Paddock. Hope it didn't cause you any probs PR. Tried rejoining but the car was all over the track so quit.

I might get a decent race in one of these Enduros one day! ::)

Geoffers

Yer was shaping up to be a great battle that aswell  :-[


How i came 2nd i will never know as i made the fatal misstake of putting 4 new boots on in the pits when they were fine to finish the race,alltho i must not grumble seeing the bad luck oily and d minton got to say the least.
Had a superb fight with baracus for a couple of laps with neither one us wanting to take the lead  ;D
but after the pitstops i was a solid 3rd so tryed to consolidate it until the gear shift went on a paddy and didn't downshift threw the chicane which sent  me royally into the wall hurting my tina.But with around 10 laps to go i nerly fell of my chair when i took 2nd place away from the truly unlucky oily  :-\

Look forward to the nxt race if the wife lets me as she is getting a bit miffed the last couple of weeks l :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 12, 2008, 11:06:26 PM +0100
Hmmmmm....no Elite tonight either....after us (SBG) bending over backwards to include it specially.  :P :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: baracus250gt on June 12, 2008, 11:21:11 PM +0100
Tactically interesting race :)
Have to say, Oily really deserved to win this race and he probably would have done if it wasn't for his pit stop going wrong. Unlucky mate - I see we have a new challenger though! Bring it on :D

I made a lot of little mistakes in the first half of the race. Went in too fast into T4 far too often - making myself vulnerable all the way down the straight. Also went off at Westfield losing a lot of time, and on the exit of the last bend which let Sooty through. Not all bad though coz it led to some great racing action between us - side by side around Paddock > Druids > Graham Hill was a moment to remember :)

Pitted on lap 24 for a splash of 2 litres only. Think that won it for me coz I emerged some 15 seconds ahead of P3 (with PR ahead yet to pit) but I was getting used to my setup as the race went on and was getting more confidenent with being aggressive with the wheel, which seemed to be the way this setup had to be driven. I had a 50/80 diff so it tended to need throttle very early in the bend to get it to rotate but it was mind over matter actually having the confidence to floor it when it looked like I was already running wide :D

Most amazing thing is that I didn't disconnect in 80 mins + Qual and praccy!! What a relief! :D

Great racing everyone - thanks for the fun :)

Majorly unlucky for Dan and Oily - gratz to Sooty and PR for fine drives too.

Sorry to hear that you might not want to race GTL any more Dave :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 12, 2008, 11:22:53 PM +0100
Look forward to the nxt race if the wife lets me as she is getting a bit miffed the last couple of weeks l :angel:

Well, it is the last race and it is Lemans. I can have a word if it helps? ;)

Yep shame that no Elites turned up, maybe MJ would have tried it with some luck. Would be kinda nice if an elite vs abarth vs jag fight, a race within a race, grew in enduro series. Still, some nice wild card picks tonight and I think the openish choice of enduro has largely worked  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Adam Parle on June 13, 2008, 08:38:42 AM +0100
The start of the race threw me off because the last thing in the chat window was "Rolling" By Parle and I was confused as to if this was a rolling start or not.

Sorry about that - I was seeking clarification...  Despite having been relatively well prepared for this one I'd completely neglected to register what type of start it was.  I got totally caught out too and got passed by about 4 people.



Qualifying went pretty well - after a few laps off the pace I finally got a decent lap in and broke into the 1:49's.

As I mentioned, I wasn't sure what format the start was taking .... I got my answer soon enough!  About 4 or 5 people shot past me - DOH!

Martin "Blunder" Mason shot past me on the back straight using the Falcons muscle - and that's where things got a bit tricky.  Me and another car (forget who) were all over the back of his car, but because his car was warping massively we couldn't overtake for fear of getting punted.  Think I got spun out after nudging the stricken car, which was frustrating but led to the most enjoyable period of the race for me.

Me and teammate Steve had some cracking racing.  I was all over the back of him in parts, and then the Falcon would stretch its legs on the straight and leave me for dead.  Was excellent racing with you Steve, I kind of wish you hadn't let me past - I was quite happy racing as it was.

Having been let by I stretched out a bit of a lead and eventually caught the still warping Falcon.  After one particularly big warp I hammered into the back of the stationary car and ended up on my roof -  :(.

By now my concentration was shot, and I wasn't really having any fun.  Thankfully a few people pitted allowing me some clear air and a bit of a break as I got back up to 7th (courtesy of the pitting).  After a couple of cock-ups mainly due to a lack of concentration (and indeed motivation) I came into the pits, ready for a few litres and to see where I was once I came back on track.






To put a long story short .... I did a Jonzo.






Yep - in too much of a hurry - I checked the fuel, it was set for 15 laps - and launched into the pit.  Of course I already had more than 15 laps in the tank, so nothing was added ... when of course I wanted an additional 15 laps  ::).  That was bad enough as I'd need another stop - but they replaced all 4 tyres and repaired all the damage I'd accrued.  I was in the pits for a couple of minutes!

When I FINALLY got back on track I wasn't really looking to race, just chuck the car round a bit - which led to mistakes.  After one such mistake I saw Steve closing in on me from 9th (to lap me that is) and that was the final straw - to be lapped by Steve when he'd let me through earlier in the race was just an indication of what a shocker I'd had.

With the next place driver half a minute up the road and no-one quick enough to catch me up, I wasn't really in the mood to go hot-lapping in a beaten up Cortina so I called it a night.


It should have been a much better night.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Sandor M on June 13, 2008, 10:01:15 AM +0100
Does somebody know if you can alter your .plr file so that when you pit the damage repair is set on No.

It took me a complete lap to get all damages fixed where i didn't intend to do this .

Offcourse I know with cleaner driving I wouldn't have this problem  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Blunder on June 13, 2008, 10:07:16 AM +0100
 :-\ Really sorry guys, will know next time and bail before I cause any issues  :-[ :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Truetom on June 13, 2008, 10:07:42 AM +0100
Was going really well in the game - having some good dices with Truetom. Came into the pits and like a plonker I hit the wrong key and was out of the game. Totally stupid error.

TC

Was nice having a close friend there. Swapped places a few times and it's interesting to see a different approach to corners. You were quicker through Surtees and slower through Stirling's bend.  :)

I went out 3 times - bad, considering I can drive GTR2 for 80 minutes with minimum/no mistakes now and good enough for my 3rd GTL race, 1st for 80 minutes. Lol, when half was approaching I started thinking about pitting and realized I had no idea how it works in GTL.  :o  Furtunately it was similar enough to GTR2 to make it through.  :D



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2008, 10:14:31 AM +0100
:-\ Really sorry guys, will know next time and bail before I cause any issues  :-[ :(
I did send a message out during qually "Blunder bad lag" but you must have missed it.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Blunder on June 13, 2008, 10:26:52 AM +0100
I did miss it! Sorry!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Mark J on June 13, 2008, 10:39:44 AM +0100
sorry i missed this one, my own stupid fault. I completely forgot i had un-installed the TC65 srouk skins from my game and i didnt have the skinpack installed on my pc any longer...damn my efficiency!
I still had 15mins to get the pack downloaded at that point but alas the link in downloads just points to Filefront..no download. Tried typing in the skinpacks exact title in their search bar but found nothing.

Yes i was in the Elite Ginsters so would have been a good evaluation against the Jags and Abarths perhaps.

Hope i have more luck at Le Mans Classic. !


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 13, 2008, 11:06:12 AM +0100
Race of two halves for me, first one poor, second one much more motivated. 

I have a real problem with the change in lighting conditions from a bright qually to twilight race, and had a virtual repeat of my mistake at T1 at Porto, just can't see my braking marker when I'm using the change in track surface as the marker.  So after jumping from 12th to 6th or 7th off the start and thinking I might be able to dice with some Cortinas, I threw it all away with a great big series of 'where's my braking point.....can't see it........errr, better brake now I guess.....*bleep* too late, here comes the scenery'.  Fortunately I was on the outside and didn't take anyone out any time, just ran onto the grass.

Be interested to know if anyone else has this problem, maybe its my tired old eyes, graphics/monitor combo (although all game settings are pretty much maxed out and I've turned the brightness up) or do I just use the track surface more often as a reference?  Not always, depends on marker board and scenery at the particular corner.  But several corners here at Brands I had to find new reference points during the first part of the race.  Perhaps a warm-up or even a rolling start with pace lap to familiarise yourself with conditions would be good.  Or maybe I just need to take note of the race start time and practice with those time of day settings.   :P

Had a good dice with Adam once I'd started to stay on the track, but I was pretty demotivated and not very quick so I thought I should let my teammate through, then he suffered from Martin's lag and ended up on his roof.  When I closed in on Martin I couldn't stop myself getting too close (within about 2 s) and twice caught a ghosting car and was off, so I pitted early, which I overshot and lost 15 seconds or so reversing back.   ::)  What an idiot!

Second half I found my motivation and ran cleanly and quickly and picked up a few places, in fact after PR pitted out beside me, a lap ahead in 3rd, over the next 10-15 laps I only lost 2-3 seconds, was very pleased with that in the Mustang.  So it all ended well.   :)  Sounded like an eventful and fun race up front, congratulations to the podium, and to all finishers.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 13, 2008, 11:20:14 AM +0100
I still had 15mins to get the pack downloaded at that point but alas the link in downloads just points to Filefront..no download. Tried typing in the skinpacks exact title in their search bar but found nothing.

I dunno what's happened to the FF link but the link underneath it, despite what the text said before I corrected it, was an HTTP download from my own webspace and does still appear to be working. Not much use now but always worth hovering over a link to see if it really goes where it claims (good for avoiding "phishing" scams too!).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Tibernius on June 13, 2008, 11:27:02 AM +0100
I've still got the skin pack if you need another copy for hosting. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2008, 12:54:10 PM +0100
Race of two halves for me, first one poor, second one much more motivated. 

I have a real problem with the change in lighting conditions from a bright qually to twilight race, and had a virtual repeat of my mistake at T1 at Porto, just can't see my braking marker when I'm using the change in track surface as the marker.  So after jumping from 12th to 6th or 7th off the start and thinking I might be able to dice with some Cortinas, I threw it all away with a great big series of 'where's my braking point.....can't see it........errr, better brake now I guess.....*bleep* too late, here comes the scenery'.  Fortunately I was on the outside and didn't take anyone out any time, just ran onto the grass.

Be interested to know if anyone else has this problem, maybe its my tired old eyes, graphics/monitor combo (although all game settings are pretty much maxed out and I've turned the brightness up) or do I just use the track surface more often as a reference?  Not always, depends on marker board and scenery at the particular corner.  But several corners here at Brands I had to find new reference points during the first part of the race.  Perhaps a warm-up or even a rolling start with pace lap to familiarise yourself with conditions would be good.  Or maybe I just need to take note of the race start time and practice with those time of day settings.   :P

Had a good dice with Adam once I'd started to stay on the track, but I was pretty demotivated and not very quick so I thought I should let my teammate through, then he suffered from Martin's lag and ended up on his roof.  When I closed in on Martin I couldn't stop myself getting too close (within about 2 s) and twice caught a ghosting car and was off, so I pitted early, which I overshot and lost 15 seconds or so reversing back.   ::)  What an idiot!

Second half I found my motivation and ran cleanly and quickly and picked up a few places, in fact after PR pitted out beside me, a lap ahead in 3rd, over the next 10-15 laps I only lost 2-3 seconds, was very pleased with that in the Mustang.  So it all ended well.   :)  Sounded like an eventful and fun race up front, congratulations to the podium, and to all finishers.


Are you saying that you don't practise the circuit prior to a race with the appropriate daylight setting set?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: mr_oily on June 13, 2008, 12:57:06 PM +0100
Well i'm still chasing that elusive podium but it was a full Prodigy turnout and a lot of fun.

I love the Cortina's handling and I know Brands fairly well so I had high hopes for this one. Put in a decent qually stint, no idea where i'd have found that extra time to catch Mr. Minton and Bara, but chuffed to be at the sharp end anyway.

Got a reasonable start and set off with two things on my mind, do not let the leaders disappear and do not cane your tyres too early on! Think the former would have been a lot more tricky had it not have been for the intense battling between the leaders which inevitably slowed them just enough to let me hang on. Haven't seen the replay yet but Dan, gutted m8, really unlucky..not the way i'd want it but that retirement put me in second and on Bara's tail from what i recall.

Think it was a mistake that let me by and into the lead, at which point the memories of Philip Island came flooding back where I just totally bottled it and made silly errors. Determined not to have a repeat i tried to chill out a bit and focus. Well I focussed alright. Maintained a 7 sec lead but before I knew it I was exiting Paddock and starting lap 17...no problems there you might say, except i'd planned to pit on lap 16 and fuelled accordingly  :o

Started to splutter at about Hawthorns and this continued all the way to the pit lane. Thought my race was over but my some miracle I had enough fumes to make it to the pit area - unfortunately the bad news didn't finish there. No flippin pit board! Did the usual backwards and forwards dance and no joy. I wasn't sure if this was related but Jeb had mentioned something about a mechanic rubbing his crotch in his face so throwing caution to the wind I started running over my crew which seemed to do the trick and board appeared  ;D

Exited in 12th which turned out to be sixth once the pitstops had unfolded. Tony had retired and was kindly doing a blinding job of keeping me abreast of goings on (every position in terms of distance from Clearways  ;)) with the cars around me via Teamspeak. Had a good but lonely blast until I reached Martin! Man that was an experience. Wiped me out completely at Graham Hill, after which I caught him again but didn't have the nerve to get any closer than 200 metres! Luckily he pitted shortly after.

The rest of the race was pretty uneventful aside from catching Martin once more in the latter stages and having to drive off the racing line and judge the gap between me and Ade who wasn't far behind.

Grats to Bara, Sooty and Pribeiro, some great driving and awesome times. Unlucky Dan and sorry you couldn't quite make it Jonzo. Dave I hope that's just a knee jerk reaction!

Martin I realise if you didn't see Tony's message that you would have been oblivious so this isn't aimed at you but Pseudo/ SBG..can we make an exception and point this out in the race chat if it happens again? Think its a better option too risk a minor distraction than have the carnage that was last night!? Either that or give us red shells so we can fight back  ;D



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 13, 2008, 01:10:58 PM +0100
Are you saying that you don't practise the circuit prior to a race with the appropriate daylight setting set?

Exactly!  ;D  Just did a quick 30 minute practice (it was sunny then  :D) a few days ago and that's it, for Brands I know well, no need to practice much, just get a setup that doesn't spit you off.  And I never thought of checking the start time, never do.  :(  Oops.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Blunder on June 13, 2008, 02:34:57 PM +0100
Martin I realise if you didn't see Tony's message that you would have been oblivious so this isn't aimed at you but Pseudo/ SBG..can we make an exception and point this out in the race chat if it happens again? Think its a better option too risk a minor distraction than have the carnage that was last night!? Either that or give us red shells so we can fight back  ;D

A very fair point buddy! Embarrassing for me when I could potentially have bailed, found the problem and rejoined!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 13, 2008, 05:35:27 PM +0100
I did see the message in quali and only had time to look at Martin quickly before race began and in that short while he was ok. For me, these things should ideally be brought up in quali and chat addressed to any mods around then seems fair to me. Its tricky to point the finger with any certainty unless others check but this can be done in quali, unfortunately we didn't catch it early enough last night.

The race is of course a different matter and no mods are going to be available to check the situation. I don't think for one minute that anyone here would tell you that you are warping to gain advantage but I would worry that the trouble might be at my end and there is a danger of pointing the finger incorrectly, if honestly. Also incidents like last night are rare and its normally easy to spot dangers yourself, Martin was just unfortunate last night.

Bring it up asap in quali and these things can be checked and sorted. For me, the race is a different matter but I'd appreciate the managements views :)   


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: psuedo on June 13, 2008, 05:38:08 PM +0100
Martin I realise if you didn't see Tony's message that you would have been oblivious so this isn't aimed at you but Pseudo/ SBG..can we make an exception and point this out in the race chat if it happens again? Think its a better option too risk a minor distraction than have the carnage that was last night!? Either that or give us red shells so we can fight back  ;D

A very fair point buddy! Embarrassing for me when I could potentially have bailed, found the problem and rejoined!

I have no objections to anyone pointing out bad lag like that during qually or race.....only problem is who is going to 'pull over and type a message' whilst racing themselves....I couldn't, I would end up either in the barriers or up someones rear  ;) (I know,  ::) that happens anyway  :D)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 5 Classic Endurance - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 12
Post by: Steve Holmes on June 14, 2008, 10:11:59 AM +0100
Unofficial Lapchart (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/steveh/BrandsGPGTLEnduro/)