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Title: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 04, 2008, 03:25:50 PM +0100
UKGPL Season 15 - Historic Division - Race 6 - 66 mod - Nürburgring (Nordschleife)

One reminder. All races count towards final standings, unlike other divisions, where it's best 8 of 10 results.
For this race only, I will moderate the start and first two minutes of the race, plus check for resets with GPLRA. For any other incidents, submit a report, or it will not be reviewed.


UKGPL Season 15 - Historic Division - Race 6 is this Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time (8:00 p.m. GMT).

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above

Server 3.ukgpl
IP address  87.194.135.42

Race date = 10-06-2008
Track = Nürburgring (Nordschleife)
Variant = 66mod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually time = 35 minutes
Length = 5 laps


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=77&theme=6)


Chassis assignments:

Mclaren M2B Ford Hristo Itchov, Lorenzo Galuzzi
T1F Eagle Climax Neil Stratton
Lotus 33 BRM Mike Beattie, Oliver Rakonjac
T1G Eagle Weslake David Bryant, Remy Roesz
BRM P83 John Roberts
Ferrari 246Ken Murray, Paul Skingley
Lotus 43 BRM Syd Drake, Clive Loynes
Brabham BT11 BRM Clive Gardner, Kruger Enge
BRM P261 Derek Howe
Honda RA273 Chris Bull, Amir Kamal
Cooper T81 Artur le Marquand, Robert Burton
Brabham BT19 Phil Thornton, Tim Robey
Ferrari 312 Terry Worth, Bernie Darwin










Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 08, 2008, 10:39:01 AM +0100
I give in.

I am not capable of doing a complete lap of this poxy place in the Lotus 43.

Couldn't we cancell it and all go and do something more enjoyable?   Like do-it-yourself dentistry!!!!!

I shall just turn up and stooge around on Tuesday, looking forward to the next proper race.

I could have more fun towing my caravan around Cornwall.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Art on June 08, 2008, 12:24:03 PM +0100
lmao Clive.  ;D

I think I'll join ya at the back in my  :wheelchair:



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Ken Murray on June 08, 2008, 07:16:15 PM +0100
Wusses. This is a real man's track.   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: EvilClive on June 08, 2008, 08:02:49 PM +0100
So now we know who is at the front of the queue stretching back from Penzance to the M5 every August!!!!!  Mr Loynes and his caravan :detective: :lol:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Burtoner on June 08, 2008, 11:44:32 PM +0100
what about resets?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 09, 2008, 01:17:13 PM +0100
Resets need to be followed by SnG. If you reset more than 8 times, you won't be able to serve them all, and you'll get some 30 second penalties. But if you reset more than 8 times you really should sit this one out.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Burtoner on June 09, 2008, 01:27:53 PM +0100
and in qualifying?, like you allowed it in clubmans?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 09, 2008, 03:53:38 PM +0100
This is the Ring. So only at this track, we can relax that rule, and you can reset in practice.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 09, 2008, 08:39:22 PM +0100
Syd

For the Clubmans Bully had the server set up for the pits to be at Pflanzgarten about 2 kms before the start.  That meant the practice laps started at Pflanzgarten so the first lap counted as a timed lap.  Race started from the start line as normal.

Given that shift Rs were allowed in practice (once people got going they didn't need to go back to the pits unless they wanted to change something) this didn't affect the outcome but if you want the practice for the Historic to start in the pit lane you'd better ask Bully to set it back to standard.

Cheers

Phil


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 09, 2008, 08:40:05 PM +0100
I seem to recall that you are called upon to reset with some care and that if you bollox someone's flying lap by not doing so then you could be due a penalty.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: EvilClive on June 09, 2008, 09:25:03 PM +0100
But who will see what happens..out there... in the forests and mountains  muhahahahahaha . A hooligan behind every tree. ::) :taz: :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 09, 2008, 09:35:57 PM +0100
I seem to recall that you are called upon to reset with some care and that if you bollox someone's flying lap by not doing so then you could be due a penalty.  ;D
There is no formal rule on this.  It is the moderator's discretion.  To be fair to everybody Syd needs to make it clear what approach he intends to take BEFORE the race starts.  The system can be used to report practice incidents if needs be.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Ken Murray on June 09, 2008, 09:44:22 PM +0100
but if you want the practice for the Historic to start in the pit lane you'd better ask Bully to set it back to standard.


No, leave it where it is, I've been asking for that to be done for years but it kept falling on deaf ears.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: bernie on June 09, 2008, 10:49:12 PM +0100
but if you want the practice for the Historic to start in the pit lane you'd better ask Bully to set it back to standard.


No, leave it where it is, I've been asking for that to be done for years but it kept falling on deaf ears.  :)

WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY ???



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 10, 2008, 12:47:45 PM +0100
No, the start in practice should be set so that the first lap counts. It's too much to go around the whole track before the timed lap. You can still reset on your fast lap, but do be careful when doing so, not to ruin another drivers lap.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 10, 2008, 12:54:42 PM +0100
I’ve been calling for it to be bulldozed flat and turned into a parking lot for years but that’s fallen on deaf ears as well!   :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Ken Murray on June 10, 2008, 02:56:08 PM +0100
I’ve been calling for it to be bulldozed flat and turned into a parking lot for years but that’s fallen on deaf ears as well!   :thumbup2:

LOL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Kruger Enge on June 10, 2008, 03:05:44 PM +0100
I’ve been calling for it to be bulldozed flat and turned into a parking lot for years but that’s fallen on deaf ears as well! 
Hm, not really... They got the bulldozer out and some cars are already parked :)
(http://www.vuelta-rapida.com/images/noticias/nurburgring-2007.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 10, 2008, 03:25:33 PM +0100
Progress at last!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 10, 2008, 08:03:33 PM +0100
It's 8:00pm.

Will someone please wake me up and tell me it's a bad dream!  I don't really have to race at Nurby.  PLEASE!!!!

I can't face another hour of practice crashes at this place.


ARGH!!!!!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: bernie on June 10, 2008, 08:22:56 PM +0100
You have half an hour or so to practise practise crashes  :D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 10, 2008, 08:37:33 PM +0100
Ratbag :p


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Ken Murray on June 10, 2008, 08:51:50 PM +0100
It's 8:00pm.

Will someone please wake me up and tell me it's a bad dream!  I don't really have to race at Nurby.  PLEASE!!!!

I can't face another hour of practice crashes at this place.


ARGH!!!!!



It would be nice to have time to practice crashing. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: bernie on June 10, 2008, 11:21:28 PM +0100
Just waiting for the bill from the Duetsche Forestry Commision  :o


Gonna be bigger than Blackpool Electricity Bill  :o ;D :o


 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 11, 2008, 10:06:17 AM +0100
For this race only, I will moderate the start and first two minutes of the race, plus check for resets with GPLRA. For any other incidents, submit a report, or it will not be reviewed.
I've added this to the first post too.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Burtoner on June 11, 2008, 03:41:19 PM +0100
For this race only, I will moderate the start and first two minutes of the race, plus check for resets with GPLRA. For any other incidents, submit a report, or it will not be reviewed.
I've added this to the first post too.

LOL why you that lazy? :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 11, 2008, 03:54:57 PM +0100
When it comes to the ring yes :).
You will be able to submit incident reports once the results are imported. And those will be imported as soon as Bully updates his site.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 11, 2008, 06:07:55 PM +0100
LOL why you that lazy? :laugh:
Another priceless Burtism  :wetfish:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Kruger Enge on June 11, 2008, 08:54:35 PM +0100
LOL why you that lazy? :laugh:
Another priceless Burtism  :wetfish:
LoL, it certainly is :)

What is amazing is the effectiveness of his written communication; so little words yet so understandable.  ::)

Priceless  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Ken Murray on June 11, 2008, 10:02:37 PM +0100
Interesting race for me. Clive G got a little out of control at T2 and I could see him closing rapidly in my mirrors. I stayed wide and expected him to slip through on the inside but watching the replay I see he touched the grass. Anyway next thing he's buried in to the side of my 246!! Then the bloody thing burst in to flames and as I frantically pressed my reset button I kept getting the dreaded "track not clear", even Clive himself drove off before the game allowed me to continue, bah!! :)

I did enjoy the chase after that. Hunting down Bernie and Phil, I enjoyed it so much that once I got passed them I promptly lost concentration, ran up a bank, spun and let them all through again!!

By the end of the race I was back to 3rd, mainly due to the misfortune off the other drivers and the fact the server seemed to loose Clive G (serves him right :))

Still an enjoyable drive through the "Green Hell", especially with the Kellaaa update that was available for a short time recently. I may post some screenies later.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: EvilClive on June 12, 2008, 08:33:15 AM +0100
Spot on Ken!  well observed.
I was a little caught out by your braking point, but had already decided that I was going to have a look up the inside. the slight extra tweak of the steering to avoid your rear quarters put a wheel on the grass and from there on the perfect plan was in ruins.
I thought I had barrelled up the inside, devoid of brakes, and missed you and would simply imbed my brab into the grass bank, but it seems I collected you on the way through ...sorry.
I had to do a Shift R, which placed me on the track right behind Ken, where I waited in gentlemanly fashion for him to lead away. But Ken did not move and Burt and another car arrived behind so I had to move off to clear the track.
I performed a SnG at the end of the lap but was surprised not to lose all that much time which I quickly made up as cars vanished into the undergrowth.
I had a couple of moments myself including a wild and rocky trip across the grass which I think might have caused GPL to black flag me ( although I thought there was a magic button which turned that particular parameter off for online racing?)
The rest of the race was fairly uneventful, following the two leaders who were well away by now and apparenntly having quite a tussle according to prib.
I finished the race in  3rd spot according to prib but DQ'd by GPL so not sure what that means


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 12, 2008, 11:54:54 AM +0100
I'll probably reinstate you Clive. But I still don't have the replay, so nothing for now.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 12, 2008, 06:34:29 PM +0100
I had a couple of moments myself including a wild and rocky trip across the grass which I think might have caused GPL to black flag me ( although I thought there was a magic button which turned that particular parameter off for online racing?)
Yes there is.  The "Disable Checkpoints" box should be checked as per the guidelines at para 5 here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/igor).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Clive Loynes on June 12, 2008, 08:25:08 PM +0100
Somewhere on the second or third lap my router threw a hissy fit and decided it wasn't going to talk to anyone.

Wish it had done it earlier.  Up until then it was as nauseating as expected.


I will not have had any effect on my problem but I noticed that the server was set at 3/384 again and when viewing the race list there were no drivers shown even though the laps were counting down.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Bully on June 15, 2008, 09:49:12 AM +0100
Hi all,
        Sorry for the massive delay, Its been a hectic week!  :o

Replay is up http://www.neurology-crew.com/gplserver

I really enjoyed this race more so than the clubmans event. I actually felt quite stable in the old Honda for the first time I can remember in the historic league. I switched from a 60/60/1 to 35/80/5 seems to suit the Honda quite nicely.

I should be there for div1 tonight.

Take it easy,
                  Bully.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 15 Historic - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Jun 10
Post by: Syd Drake on June 15, 2008, 07:09:46 PM +0100
Results are up.