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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Oschersleben GP 2004
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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(7) GTR2 Manager voluntary handicap ballast will be available for this race.

It will come as no surprised to learn that I plan to take the 350Z! :D

I will be driving the little Loti with 80's styled mirrored windows, a bleach blonde dyed flick style haircut and Duran Duran on the in car cassette player  ;D ;D 

Guys,

I've got minimum time to spend practicing as I'm concentrating on GTL !
Can someone suggest a good all round car for the season so I can minimise my poor set ups!?
and a start at a good set up would be nice!?  ;D How cheeky am I !?  ;)

Ta

M.

Oh, meant to say preferably with a Team Oldie skin!?

Pick Lotus. Your go backward quicker but your be as stable as a house. As they all say, real men drive Lotus  ;D

Meh, I think Vertislow is the most forgiving car of the group.  :-\  That's why Pops drives it.  ;)   ... and me.  ;D

Thanks all for the suggestions!
Tried and liked the Vertislow! so that will be me for the season!
Red, White and Blue Team Oldie skin plus Cinzano logos!

Hic!

 ;D

Fabulous track btw!

I must admit, I am really looking forward to this race and entire season. GT3 cars, long races, variable weather all in a Lotus Elise is just perfect. I am counting down the hours to the race.

I thought the Cinzano was copyright team Legends :D

Was planning on running the GT3 enduros but might not make it on sunday.

The shandy variety of Cinzano for those Legends boys! I here!  ;D

If the weather is anything like what we had for the GT1/2 race at Magny-Cour then I can guarantee it won't be boring :)

I really hope its wet. Lots and lots and lots of rain  ;D ;D

Still not decided on a weapon of choice yet. Anybody got a time to aim at? I'll see if the Viper is competitive in my hands if I have time.

This track, the Viper and the wet :boat:

low 30's in the vertigo so far....bit more to come yet though.

Mid 1.31 for me so far! Vertislow!

What do you mean, "practice"?

Low 29's now.....watch it Ruskie...your lap records in serious danger   :laugh:.

If you're not beating it in a Viper, I don't care ;). I can't defend myself now :(.

A lap record in the Viper CC in Oschers?! That's totally the wrong car for a tight, twisty track. If a Vertislow doesn't take the record, something is wrong  :P

I would have thought then that the porka would have done better than the viper last time ???....unless of course it was all down to the driver  ;) ;D

We will be using GTR2 Manager for this race, so voluntary handicap ballast will be available.

If we have stability problems tonight we will stop using it permanently.

Well I managed to get below Jeffs lap record last night  :)....by a couple of tenths....but then a TEAM SHARK member joined the server.........and went 1.5 seconds quicker than me  :o :'(......even beating the current GTC record.

Dave, whats GTR2 Manager? Is this something I need or can I join normally?

GTR2 manager is an additional program that runs on the server....you have no need to install it at your end.

It allows some extra controll over balast and other aspects of GTR2 by the server admin.

Thanks Psuedo

Sorry guys gonna have to miss this one!?   :'(

Did a Triathlon this morning and can't keep my eyes open now!

Have fun  ;D

M.

Hmm, not a very good start to the season despite an opening 20 minutes full of action.

Having lost Mark McClean to the T1 gravel trap I was right behind Michael Boylan's Elise and got a run on him coming out of T2. He couldn't seem to make up his mind which side of the track he wanted so I stuck my car into the car-sized gap on the left into T3, guessing at a braking point and running a bit wide on the exit having exchanged paint, after which he returned the favour running into me on the exit.

Bit of flashing from him - followed a few corners later by me getting the red-curbed chicane wrong and going into the barriers, killing the engine. :'(

Sorry, Michael - I certainly didn't mean to run into you. :-[

Good fun (great 30 minute battle at the start, in a gaggle of cars), but the race was a disaster on a number of fronts :'(

Sorry in advance who ever was lapping me, and I had a spin in front of them, making some kind of contact :-[ hope you didn't loose too much time.

Sorry also to who ever had to take some avoiding action whilst I tried to get back on the track, thought it was clear using my side view,and after letting a couple of cars by :-[  hope you didn't loose too much time.

Not Please at all  >:(     my PC froze 6 mins from the end.

Race was going well, started 14th had a good pit stop and starting catching the people in front evenyually caught up to SBG who was in 6th and thats where I stayed, just wasnt a clear way past, nice driving mate  ;D  ........until my pc had enough. 

Real Shame  I was enjoying that  :(

RM

A definate awful return to racing, I hope I can do better than this in future, the Porker had the straight line speed but was a mare in the corners.

Brilliant race RM and I'm gutted for you. We'll do that again, no worries :)

Got there an hour early to find a GT3 car that even resembled fun around Oschers (I was going to use the Viper but its about as much fun as crabs around there) and was just about to give up when I noticed a few were using the bimmer. What a revelation, its great fun and provided a very good race with Pseudo (you should notice were the start line is next time me old mucker ;)), RM, Hol and JonM . Will have to work on race setup as it felt apart after 20 mins. Thx all.

Grats to the podium. A POWER track would be nice next. Good work in getting a nice balance Dave  :thumbup2:

Overall a good race for me. Started on poll and went off quite quick, had a 15-20s lead but lost concentration when lapping people and put my rears on the grass where the triple apex left hander is and lost loads of time in the sand :-[. Pitted on the same lap but came in a bit too eager to make up for my spin....Then got a stop go for pit lane speeding so then I came back in....And hit the barrier next to the lights in the pitlane damaging the car :-[ :-[ Thought that the race was just about over for me but kept on going. Think I was 19th at that point but others had yet to pit. Didn't have to do much overtaking to move up through the postions as other cars were pitting etc. Had some nice fights at the end with SBG Rhiegn and Jan. Was very surprised and happy to finish 5th. Was nice to get a race under the belt.
Grats Freq and the top 3 Busi and TT 8)

3rd official S8 race I'm in, 3rd battle for victory in the last laps, 3rd time I lose it >:(

This race was so exciting, my first laps were in 4th giving TT a very hard time. We were in the same car, +20 kg for me actually, so it was very hard to overtake. Tried several times a good exit from T2 but he kept defending the line into the next left hander. Very good driving mate :)

Finally I passed him and, after the leader (who waws stunningly fast!) spun, I caught leader Freq. This time was even harder to pass as the top speed difference is huge. Again tried several different lines and when I was gonna pass him in the last corner he pitted. I went 2 or 3 laps longer but rejoined behind him, so another chase until the closing stages.

With about 5 laps to go I used one mistake from him to overtake, but in the next lap I ran wide looking in the mirrors (it was scary to watch him come in the straights lol) so he retook the lead. I couldn't overtake again in the last exciting laps. Well done mate, really deserved win :)

Grats to all the finishers and I hope GTR manager is kept for the next races :D

Replay and provisional results available

Sorry Dave. I flashed you to say great pass, not to say anything bad about your pass, just that it was a good pass as you ran wide but managed to still hold the advantage.

EDIT: Just checked replay Dave and I just drove down the middle to turn 3 whilst you went to the left. You braked and ran wide and so I switched back and we swapped sided. We then exited the corner fairly close but there was no contact on my replay and I felt nothing at the time. Did you feel contact? Sorry if there was but I did not notice anything at the time and certainly made every effort to not touch.

I had a superb race. Early on I had a good little battle with JPS1. I kept up with him but did not have the speed to pass. I eventually passed him after he made a mistake and then had an awsome battle with PRibeiro for most of the race. He was so much quicker but my little Lotus had great exit speed and I could just hold him off to the next corner. Once I pitted that let him go and he was long gone. Then near the end, I had a great little battle with Peter Allnut. I finally made a great run on him down the main straight but thought it was the last lap and as we crossed the line I lifted off only to find there was one more lap to go.

Oh well, great great race and great driving.

Yay, I completed my goal: I wasn’t the last who reached the finish line  :laugh:. I have to apologize if I was on someone’s way. Sorry Ted and JPS1 about the situation where I overtook JPS1. It was totally my fault. There was nice battle in the start of the race at the back. I maybe did some aggressive moves along the race, sorry about them! I had some good fights along the race, nice racing guys. Good job everyone and grats to the podium!

Nice race that!!

I knew from the start that the 4 infront of me would probably pull away and they did so just tried to be consistant and stay ahead of the cars behind. Did a good job then TT went off and stayed ahead of him for a few laps but then he got me as i went a liitle wide. Tried to stay with him and managed for a few laps untill when i was lappin Jps1 i think he spun in front and i had nowhere to go and t-boned him ( noones fault) but not too hard so no real damage done.

Did quite a long first stint which worked quite well, after pitting i was in 6th or 7th i think and  jan duijs right behind me and he got me as my tyres were still cold. Caught back up to him and we had the closest laps ive ever had!! Could not quite get passed after some side by side driving ( Good racing mate) for 6 or 7 laps. Finally got him after he made slight mistake and pulled away and getting a good 4th.

Had one very scary moment when lapping an elise down the start finish straight, past him entering the straight but he had more top speed and contined to try and race me nearly taking us both out.

My race pace was not great but my consistancy got me a good result so very happy  8)

Grats winner and podium.

Grats to team mate Busi, well done H@l, unlucky Boss, very unlucky RM

Qualified somewhat above my station in 9th with a PB and then duly fell back through the field after a couple of unforced errors.

The rest of the race was a really enjoyable succession of battles with various people including Picnic, Michael and API, culminating in me finishing behind them all in the end! Ah well, there's always next time. Great racing!

Ted

PS - no problems at all with the connection tonight that I noticed.

PPS -
np mate, I didn't even notice - enjoyed the battle!

 Busi you are fast earning the tag of bridesmaid never the bride. Since you race in pink, quite appropriate!       

Bit of a mare for me again that one :(

Had that 'different' feel again during the race...same setup as praccy but the back end just kept overtaking the front for some reason ???

One thing I did notice was tyre wear....all during praccy I had been managing 40 laps on a set of mediums...ending with about 28/29 wear....in the race....got to 35 laps with 35 wear.  :o....took me a bit by suprise.

lol...the start line wasnt the problem....I hit the talk button on the wheel instead of the limiter button ::)

Had a few good battles, sbg at the biggining then Jan Dulis later. Had real trouble with an elise (nsfast I think) near the end...could not find a way past that I could make stick. Good stuff.
The only down side was a hefty collision into the back of the elise as it stopped at the chicane to avoid a car that had gone off....sorry mate, the brakes on the verti are pretty good but there is no way I could stop intime.
That damaged my car a fair bit and it felt even more unstable so I decided to call it a day before I caused any damage.

Grats Freq....and TT......and excellent again from Busi and Gazza. Your time will come Busi...(watch out for ts trying to bribe you away from us  ;D)

Good turn out for Team Pseudo again....thanks guys  ;)

Well, hope you're happy boss!  8)  :angel:

Great race. Was genuinely shocked (as in went half a second faster than ever gone before) in qually where I nicked 2nd place at the death. Ochers is so tough to pass at so I did more qually runs than normal. ;D I thought I'd be a rolling roadblock at the start but with Busi pressuring TT, I pulled a gap. Jon was long gone and I had no intention of even trying to race him as he was just so much faster, but was happy with how things where. Then Busi closed up and I thought he would breeze past, but my extra engine gave me the lifeline I needed and stopped him getting close at the end of straights. Then Jon messed up all by himself, and had exactly the problem I had at Anders in S7....long first gear, stuck in the gravel for 30 minutes  :laugh:

Pitted and made an 8 second lead. Busi duly closed up again and we had a cracking fight for the lead ;D. It was really, really close and I ended up making a costly error, giving him all the chance he needed to make a pass stick at the end of the back straight. He then gifted it back to me when my engine scared him!  :angel:

Great fighting so close, I was overdriving at times (read: off the track :laugh:) and thought you would snick past, but 2 laps from home you gave me some breathing space, and I could just hold on. You were easily faster , just the pitstop and qually that made it so tough for you. I went from a previous best of a 29.4 yesterday, to a 28.6 during the race today! So am really, really pleased, on what is a track that really should have seen me off the podium. Now as long as my team mate finishes some races, maybe the manufacturer points will be healthy too!  ;D


I only asked to make sure you were paying him enough to buy food with, get the odd new engine etc. We know what you tightfisted pansies are like!  ::)  :angel:
 
Grats finishers, and Busi on great racing. Tough luck Jon, was your race really.  :'(

I definitely felt something, but it seemed like a fair trade given how forceful my pass was.

Mostly I'm just papa oscared with myself for throwing it off the road at the chicane - somewhere I knew I had to be careful after lowing the ride height by 5mm all round - trying to build a small gap. Still angry with myself this morning. >:( ::)

Well done FreQ on the win - emulating Alex Buncombe's real world 350Z wins (http://www.gt4cup.com/newsitem.php?key=77) in the European GT4 Cup. :clap:

OK no worries. Your 350Z had so much grunt compared to my little Lotus which seemed to be sliding and dancing about all race. 5mm ride height is mad. I went for the 4 x 4 setup and had 8mm :):)

Was a bit slower than off-line but it was enough for 3rd place in quali. My setup was ok overall, but it was eating front tyres much more than the rears, so I decided to go with a med/soft combo - I never used softer rears on any other car.  ::)

Busi was pesky from the start.  :D  I know him by now (did even from some public servers before he came here  :) ) so I knew he was faster than me. My problem was there was 1 alien too many - which was solved after JonM started playing in the sand. Bad luck buddy, the race really was yours.  :(  Freq had an easy job in front as Busi was all over me from the start (not that I'd be a problem for Freq even if I was left alone  :P ). The speed difference was high enough to know that Busi was gonna overtake sooner or later. My goal was to preserve as much dignity as possible and to perform an illusion of defensive driving without taking him out.  ;D

Was a bit lonely after that until pitstops started to commense. Was not sure at the time if I could go without taking fuel but I wasn't gonna risk another Hockenheim  :whistling: so I took 10 litres. Ended with 14 litres surplus, so there's the answer.  :oops:  Came out behind Psuedo, who made a mistake and Gazza who provided us with some decent close laps until a small error which I could use to my advantage.  :)

Finished 3rd which was the most I was to achieve, so I'm happy with it.  :)  Bad luck for JonM and good racing overall.  :)
Busi joined the alien club - their internal fights might provide us mortals with some opportunities. Freq / Busi duel enabled me to almost close on them and join the fight for the top. Almost.  ;)

TT

looked at the results and i see a whole army of pseudo racers,what happened to all the sharks and legends ;D
We at Dutch Turtles keep it simple 2 drivers ,but we are happy to take in new blood and you dont have to be Dutch or 50+ of age .
Great race last night ,i was not fast but steady ,i had to cause Evert my teamie went off in grand style in the fast left/left/ right mid section.
Had some nice battles with Pseudo,Gazza and Jon (good to see you back).
Also made a good pitstrategy for the first time in ages (only tires no fuel).
Looking forward to the next race.

Jan

Legends have gone i-racional.  :no:  MJ and Steve are fighting the desease but seems like they don't like GT3 changes / didin't have time to race last night.  :(
I tried iRacing but other than good driving there's nothing in it for me.   ???   Avoiding contact is not racing.  :-X

Poor race for me, no practice and an inability to setup a car resulted in a poor performance compared to the other Z3s. Considering how much slower I was than most in qualifying I expected a very lonely race but it didn't turn out that way and the speed of the Z3 on the straights kept pursuers at bay for longer than my skill/car/setup warranted.

Not sure what orders Team Psuedo adopt but I came across a very slow Psuedo/Ted pairing so happily accepted the invite to pass Ted for position :) Thanks boys  ;D

Had some good battles on the way especially in the second half of the race. Somehow I made several places around the pitstop times meant several faster cars having to chase me down. I often made it easy with little excursions on the grass :( Enjoyed it more than I expected, cheers :)

You were closer than you think - I crossed the line with 0.9l of fuel left!  :o  Mental note: Put more fuel in next time  :P


You should (please, please!) invite Ruskus into your team, he's Dutch! And we're fed up with him stealing all our setups from the Team Shark webby and claiming he wins because he's "fast"  :shifty:

We should organise a Top Gear style race, where we all take GT1's and he turns up in a Boeing 747 ;D

Picnic, did you race in UK-GPL, most of the time racing a Brabham?

Did you mean GPL? In which case I might have done a few seasons ;) Missed start of S1 so did the reserve races then full time for S2 until I got fed up with the phaffing around with various length pit stops. GTR then came and saved the day ;)

Sorry, yes GPL. I know your name from somewhere. I thought it might be either UK-GPL or maybe the Atlas F1 GPL League.

I was at British GT at Brands all day so couldnt really come home and then jump in a sim race for a couple of hours. :'(

How is the balancing feeling so far then with this, ahem, modified G3 class? I see the 'only' porker in the field could only qualify 12th in Dans capable hands and the top 6 is made up of vertigos other than an alien in a Z :-\  Looks like even the humble z3's are quicker than the porker now  :-X

Had a bit of a shocker where I had no pace at all and therefore just fighting for scraps at the back :( It was all a bit embarrasing really.

But, I did finish (god knows how, I was losing the will to live at that point) and even though I had the chequered flag, it still had me down as DNF. When it rains, etc....

As I only had time to tweak the default setup with gears and wing, can another vertigo driver post their setup for Oschersleben please? Be worth having a look at that as well as the replay to find a bit more pace.

Congrats to podium, and JonM for a mind boggling low 1.27s in qual :)

Yes, I think we lost the Porsches for this season.  :(  They don't fit, too slow and too clumsy.  :no:

Thats a shame. I am still not sure how the Lotus is. The Vertigo's seemed very quick and I was struggling pace wise with the Z3's. Would be good to have some Porka's to race. I am sure they would be racing the Lotus's.

mine was already there....'pseudovertigo' ::)

ochers is a very vertigo friendly track....but they will struggle at the majority of other tracks in this series.

The Porka is on a pretty level par with all the cars in GT3 class...but even the VIPER cc beat it here last time out so ochers is obviously not a very friendly track for it.....I reckon it will still do very well at some of the other tracks.
Its still much better than having JUST the Vcc to race against...even though porka drivers dont quite get it all their own way now  ;D ;)

I think at Donington the Vertigos will struggle a lot more. I'll post the next race announcement when I've had a chance to review the race start time.

That's über low ;).

I was going to let the cm/mm mistake pass. :laugh: I think I was running 6.0cm on the front and 7.5 on the rear.

HEHE well I have no idea what I was running apart from it had a 8 in it :):):)

Stealing your setups? I post my own and you try them...spin off everywhere and start crying over TeamSpeak :P;D.


Oh yes, almost 1.200.000N versus your....puny little amount ;D. As long as we race at Anderstorp, I'm happy :P.


No wonder you crashed, that's quite a big difference. :)

vertigos are great at donington.   It was one of my few races at race2play that went ok, and  jeff, jon and me were 1,2 and 3 that night for team shark.     They are fast!

Just remember our 1-1 wing setup we had there ;D.

I went 1-2.      That was good fun that night, but I still remember a certain twit really getting under my skin that night!     Looking at times you were 1.32s in race and quali and I was 33s. Lap record for 911 is nearly 2.5 seconds slower.  Not sure how much slower our vertigo is?

I thought running 1-1.5cm difference in ride height was supposed to help with downforce?  ???

1.0 cm is normal, 1,5 is slightly high, especially under high curbs you see at that chicane.
What it normally does is give better turn in due to the less stability.

I don't think the rideheight effects these cars as much as the F1 cars did in the 70's. Wings supply much more significant downforce.

Thanks for the setup, TrueTom. Just had a drive with it and it's loads better than I raced with yesterday. Got a PB of 1.29.7, which is 2 seconds faster than before. Cheers! Feel a bit better about my driving now :)

Do you use the core of that Vertigo setup as a base for each track with only minor modifications e.g. wing and gearing, to suit? Or, do you pretty much start from scratch for each track?

Anyone fancy posting a setup for the Elise. It would help me heaps.

This was the setup I basically used. Just had more wing 2/7 just have a little play and see what's best for you.

Post 113 all hail JazzyJeffNL
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3985.105

That was an incredable race! ;D

That was the most battles I have had in a UKGTR race so far.:o Good racing moments with SBG, Reign Man, Pribeiro and an awesome fight (by my standards) with jan duijs. I would imagine from your point of view jan, you were just held up for a few laps behind a slower car but I had fun and great driving from you mate. A little paint swapping took place I think, but all well above board. :)

Sorry to JPS1 who I almost crashed into as you were recovering from a mistake and I was just in the process of making one at the same part of the track. Close call there mate, it was lucky that I did not take us both out of the race :(

Looking forward to the rest of the season.

H@L9000