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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (23 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Oulton Park v1.0 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#msg54520))


Cars allowed: Lotus Cortina, Ford Falcon and Ford Mustang.
Time of Day Setting: 10:00
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=187;theme=5)
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6.5.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Having seemingly sorted my issues out (I can connect to servers now), and my GRC league running a series I have no interest in, I will hopefully be able to make it for this! I've still got to install the skins and stuff... But my attempt to connect to a server was successful, so I'm hopeful.

Have you tried it with the UKGTL server? Just wondering if it's that server in particular it was having problems with.

I will before the day obviously, but before I couldn't connect to ANY server. I have connected to a server now.

Will try and get stuff sorted over the weekend. It's ridiculously hot here though, so to sit at my racing system is like sitting in an oven. Thankfully the weather breaks after the weekend.

A word of advice
Never write to a British forum in British summertime about how wonderful the weather is in your part of the planet.
Unless you don't want to make friends.  ;)

hehehe Well I don't consider this weather nice AT ALL. My apartment, despite being north facing, may very well be over the mouth of Hell given how hot it gets here.

I hate hot weather. So I am not bragging. Moaning, yes. Not braggin:) Though wait until it gets to the winter and hits -50 here. Yes, that's -50 celcius. I think it was actually -54 to be precise. That was with windchill. You step outside, and you literally have ice in your nose within a couple of minutes. Hit that on two days last year. Winter routinely spends weeks in the -20's.

So I get it way too hot (it's hitting 37 on Monday here), but I love love LOVE the cold. So when you're all sitting there around -2, I'll be sitting in a country that's colder than your average freezer. ;D On the plus side with the ridiculously hot apartment, in the winter, we don't even need the heating on.

Anyway this is completely off topic now, so to get it back, I will hopefully get to test the server at least this weekend so I know if I'm making it. I swear, if it goes wrong again, I am deleting GTL and never touching it again. Game broke my heart once. Not having it do it again! And I may still join the GTR2 league too if they'll have me. I've never raced GTR2 online. GPL, NR2003 and RF are the main ones I've raced online.

Looking forward to this one but still not a clue how to hussle the Falcon around for anywhere near a 1:37 or wotever it was you did Jeff - i'm a good 3 secs off at best!

Oh yeah, watch that curb at the chicane unless you like being pitched into the tarmac, endo stylee.  ;D

yes i've done that a few times. but having driven there i don't remember it ever being that bad

I'll probably never be able to say this for any other event so i'll make the most of it...."having also driven this track" ( ;D ;D ;D) albeit badly, you're right Jimmer, it definitely ain't that severe! They all seem fairly brutal in the online version!

Yeah the kerbs here are like great big plastic floats, nothing like the real track.  Never mind, still a joy to drive.

There are again 2 versions of this track, the last SRouk race used the high-grip version (I and a few others had the normal version installed and were 4 seconds off the pace, why that didn't throw a mismatch I dunno).  Not sure, but I think this may be the normal one, I started off at exactly the same pace as I made previously, 41s, then snuck into the 39s.  Stang for me I think, I've always enjoyed driving it.

They have put what looks like tyres set in concrete on the downhill left hander ???.But I like this track good fun to drive. The raise into deer leap will get you at some point :o

If there are two versions, I would recommend everyone to download the version from the link above to ensure we all have the same one.....it should throw up GDB mismatches if its a different version....and anybody with a mismatch will NOT be allowed to race.

I hope Jeff's lap is from the high grip version I really do! Anyway just to confirm - the Prodigy server's definitely on the right version.

I can't remember that race at all for some reason, but it probably was with more grip, as I wasn't much quicker in that race compared to others. Certainly not 3 seconds.

Jeff's time (and all previous race times) was done on the high grip level (1.16 dry road grip factor in the .gdb file), but that is the current track we're using - we've just got loads of time to find, Oily!   :o

So any mistaken track versions will only lead to slower times, no need to panic about any mismatches!

Hi to all

another Dave here  :o

having just registered, i'd like to join in a few races with you guys to get to know you, and as there is a race this coming thursday, i thought i might jump in at the deep end.

no need to panic just yet,i'm not a noob, i already run in gbsimracing leagues in Race07 and GTL, and i also run in a few simjunkies leagues too,involving GTL,GTR2,Race07 and rFactor so i am up to speed on close pack racing.

look forward to seeing you on track guys, be gentle with me,lol

Dave Gardner

oops,forgot to mention that my race name is very original lol

DaveGardner

Welcome Dave, see you on the track  :)

Good to see you here Dave, have fun.

Welcome Dave. Look forward to crashing into you twice a week from now on :)

I wouldn't like to see a more grippy version of this track, as its all to easy to get on 3 wheels through that nice sweeping left hander  :) Luvverly track and just about broke into the 47's offline. Nice choice Steve, hope to see plenty of Stangs (Dave? ;D) out there. I'll be in the Falcon by the way.

Well much to my delight I CAN CONNECT! Lotus is too twitchy (rolled it on first lap) so I went Mustang. Will probably take that. One thing: I've got a sound glitch. I can hear where it loops as it goes quiet for a split second. Very annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?

Anyway, I will hopefully be there on Thursday, in the Mustang, trying not to ruin peoples races!

Good news :).

I have no idea how to fix those soundsproblems, you can however download and try these sounds:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=3878

They sound better than original, so you might hit 2 birds with 1 stone ;D

Can you describe the "looping" sound? That would be helpfull. Have you checked the volume levels in game?

Calling all late nighters
Online praccy @ 10:30(ish) tonight, highest standards of gentlemanly conduct expected (not).

The looping? Basically as I accelerate the sound plays, then there's a glitch, which I guess is where the sound loops, and so on. It's really hard to describe.

I will try the new sounds. I fiddled with my sound acceleration as it was on basic and it made no difference.

This getting a regular meet!? Such fun! Count me in!  ;D

Replacement sounds seem to have fixed the issue. THANKS!

As for the meeting, if I'm around I'll try and make it, but the eldest's birthday trip to Toys'r'Us is probably today so I might not be around.

Dunno about anyone else but I'm actually quite jealous. I miss that place. ;D

Yeah, Falcon vs Mustang is always interesting, the Falcon is a little quicker on one lap but the Mustang is just that bit more consistent, better on its tyres, stronger at the end.

We are running the more grippy version - dunno why the author upped the grip from 1 to 1.16, it does lead to the car lifting quite a lot rather than sliding. That and the big kerbs, there could be some 2-wheel stunt driving on Thursday.

Welcome to Dave, hope you enjoy this one, I'm sure everyone will be eager to swap paint stories with you.  :)

See you online about 10:30 then. Be there or be square.  ;)

With the car choices....3 boxes on wheels....you can't help but be square ;D.

I will hopefully be there tonight...not decided on a car yet...the lotus is well slow here compared to the other choices...Mustang is a handfull that bites hard and Falcon is the fastest so most folk will be in it.  :-\

Prolly the Mus-sting

ill be in the Cortina not a big fan of the big American cars.   I remember the last race here and it was great so hopefully another good one tommorow, got down to a 37.5 dont think i can get anymore out of it
See yall there.

Dammit man, that is fast again Mr. Minton, lets hope not!!  :o

I've hit 1:40 once & can't get near it again. Oh well, I guess I'll be way down the pack... But I do enjoy driving the Falcon, great fun  >:D

I'm still in the 1.41 so I will be chasing your ass  ;D

I don't think the marshals will be allowing any animal antics Mr Mooijekind

:o
So many easy replies to this but so little time!

You'll be pleased to hear that I think I might be able to get on line for some practice a bit earlier tonight. But you keep your eyes on the road & your hands on your wheel.  ;D

Found a bug earlier: If you pick the Mustang in Black with Red stripes, you're invisible to everyone else and you stay invisible until you restart GTL. Changing car makes no difference, you have to restart it.

Don't know if this is a known bug or not. :-\

Thats odd I've, and others here have used that Stang with no problems I recall. If any of you experience same problems at least you know what to do now, and do report them here afterwards.

Hope the race is as much fun as pracci session tonight :)   

What...you mean tomorrows race IS the demolition derby ?

Twas fun thiugh...and I learnt that there is no way that the Tina can compete here with the tanks....it just gets eaten on the straights and there are ONLY straights here.  ::)

Are, the hidden "stealth" option.

I'm getting a new graphics card tomorrow. I am HOPING to have it installed in time for the race. (Gonna be tight. I'm going to have about an hour to do everything.)

Yeah, it could be frustrating for Cortina drivers - it's quick, prolly as quick as the Falcon, but in all the wrong places.  I hope no-one in a Cortina gets stuck behind my Stang tonight, I'll feel guilty holding them up the entire race.... ;)

Slowly getting down to mid 38s, the question is how much more grass is reasonable to take through the chicane section.   ;D

What are the rules for that? Is it the same as other GTL: 2 wheels on the track?

Sounds fair enough, and longest side-wheelie automatically gets 50 bonus points.

The key to that chicane is tailbraking. Put brakebias rearwards a lot and lock the rears under braking, kicking the tail out and pointing the nose in the right direction.
It's also great fun ;D.

yep, this is definitely a very rear brake bias track...and it's also fun controlling the rear end as it swings from one side to the other mid chicane.

I've been pretty conservative taking grass on the left of the chicane, take another foot or so and your left wheel bangs the kerb and launches the car onto its right wheels, both Tony and I did that online last night, amusing, but not fast.  The high grip also causes the front right to stick and you end up on your nose then your roof.  I reckon there are better ways.  Unless we are going to award time bonuses for style? :-\

The question is whether you can keep the right tyres on the tarmac whilst totally straddling the left hand kerb and therefore not getting launched, experimentation needed.

The ingame cut detection at this track...and especially at the chicane are non-existent.

However, the general Spirit and Conduct of drivers here will mean nobody would even dream of taking too much grass and bending the rule of keeping two wheels on the tarmac......WONT IT?  ;D

Of course dude - best behaviour  ;D Can't wait, it's going to be hectic as hell based on the squabbling going down last night  ;D

I remember the instructors on that VXR day thing had us keeping well to the left on the exit of the chicane, ready to take the easy right for a good run up the hill - seems very tricky to do in the game unless you cut the speed right down to the point it can't be faster than crashing through sideways while mowing the grass lol.

The Cortina's doing it for me once again so reckon i'll stick with it - feel free to use all the rubber you like in the tanks lads, i'll see you about lap 6 ;)

I was going to run with the Falcon but just felt I was making no progression with the car the more I practised it  :cursing: Was going backwards if anything!

 :surrender: So I ran last night in the Tina & it is slower (with me driving) but not too much & like Oily says, it might come good as the race goes on.
After last nights multi-driver practice, tonight's going to be a tough race on a narrow track filled with some  :tank:. Carnage.

I found the less risky option is to take a lot of grass on the right on the way in & stay completely on the track for the LH bit. Taking it a bit slower means you can get a better drive out towards Clay Hill. Now having said that I'm bound to flip it at the chicane  ::)

I hear you dude, got to a semi-respectable time in it and then quickly just couldn't extract any more - despite it being a lot of fun!

Usually when that happens I suddenly realise my knuckles are going white and i'm tensed up trying to magically enter corners much quicker than the last time, in actual fact if I stop and relax a bit - tidy up the lines a little there's more to be gained. That's the theory, doesn't work often lol  :whistling:


Yeah I'm sure that's the quickest way Geoffers, a bit of discipline needed me thinks, will give it another bash tonight!

Yeah, I think I agree with you (and Oily's VXR instructor), that's closer to what I've been trying, just want to try the alternative monstering-the-kerbs approach too.   ;D

It's great fun going through there feeling just that little bit out of control isn't it!

A little inspiration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQKKlir6sY&feature=related

Nowthen

We had some discussions about the grass in the chicane last night when SBG arrived
I had been straddling the left kerb in the middle part of the chicane, and was getting
some respectable times. I had to either keep to the right of the middle kerb so as
to avoid being tipped over. or I had to completely straddle it, while keeping the
right two wheels on tarmac of course. It was felt that The completely straddle option
was not acceptable. So I've been trying to drive right round it.. so far I am
a second slower, and I tipped the car on it's end twice!
Chortle.
I don't really mind how I take the chicane as long as all are doing the same.

Perhaps the moderators could issue a defining statement on what kind of "straddle" is acceptable and what sort of penalty offenders could expect?

I'm readying the red hot poker for any offenders.  Perhaps I should leave it up to Jeff, that seems more his thing.   :D

Tricky judgement - I'm assuming everyone is happy using the tyre barrier as the definition of the chicane entry?  Skimming the tyres involves being 2/3 off the track. Using the 2 tyres on the tarmac rule I'd have thought straddling the kerb on the left was fine, but since I haven't  fully tried it, I don't mind if its banned.  ;)

Nah, too many guys around here ;D. Call me when it's ladies night :P.

Definitive statement.

KEEP TWO WHEELS ON THE TARMAC AT ALL TIMES.

the rest is up to you.

So if I make a mistake & screw up the chicane, know I had all four wheels on the grass at the same time.... I should send myself into the pits for a self imposed drive through? Seems logical.  :)

Nahhhhh.....If you make a mistake and get it wrong and end up with four wheels on the grass....forget it...no problem.

But if you DONT make a mistake, and regularly end up with four wheels on the grass...or basically take an unfair advantage of any description....then expect a bolt of lightening to appear and strike you in the gearbox.

Quote from rules - "Drivers are strongly discouraged from the deliberate placing of one or more wheels on areas of grass, gravel and sand." Therefore I would consider deliberately putting two wheel on the grass, through the left bit of chicane as naughty and to be discouraged. Especially as you can gain much time by doing it.

I'm more worried about crashing there than any cutting to be honest :)

So it's all 4 wheels on the tarmac?

EEEEESSSSHHHHHH

Just double checking since SBG's quote from the rules seems to say it's 4 wheels on the tarmac.
That and I get confused easily. :wacko:

Confusion is only a state of mind.... :blink: :stupid:

I agree and at the risk of being an arse, I won't be backward in coming forward if I feel I have lost out as a result!?  ;)
Rant over!  ;) Excuse me....It's my age! :wetfish:

Am loving the consistent approach from the mods ;D

So i'm completely confused.

I've been finding that if you touch the kerb on the right it always seems to launch you so i found two wheels on the tarmac, straddling the LH curb was the safest way through. But i guess we will see after when the reports come in ;D

Hey, what do you want...it's a bit of a grey area.....and SBG is white, I'm Black...mix us together and Presto.....everything is black and white....mixed. :laugh:

Was going to be pretty much at the back of the grid and when folks started having problems at the end of practice and I myself got a CTD decided to call it a night as I'm knackered anyway. Hope everyone has a good race.

Got CTD-ed twice during practice (could be my system) then booted but when logging on again was put on a spot which the car started floating through the ground..

This is how the pits look like from my perspective:

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Hopefully, I'll be able to make the start. This a third race in a row that I've had problems.  :(

Sighhh

Noticed at end of qual that I was seeing only my times, had me 7th, and I could
see other cars, but when I went to the grid it CTD.
Dang.

Ran out of fuel on the last bend of the last lap while running tenth. Damn.

Well that was fun.... :(

I got the CTD in praccy and rejoined somewhere in a swamp ::)...I got a garage spot and all was well come qually and race though.

Had a slight coming together with Geofers I think it was after he had spun the falcon...wow, they are big when you aproach them at 100mph side on accross the track :laugh:...couldn't avoid it so that sent me from 12th to 23rd.

Got going again and had a couple of mini battles....(hope your cars not damaged spanner ;) :laugh:) and some good racing for a couple of laps...but I was fighting obvious suspension damage from earlier and when trying to correct a spin I pulled my wheel off its mounting so hit the esc.

Start seemed pretty good again chaps :thumbup2: We do need to keep it up....and extend it around the first couple of laps too.

Just a word to the new lads in case they missed it when reading our rules etc...Please dont use chat during the qualifying session....save it till after the race as it is very very distracting to folk.

Well don winner and podium.

Got taken out twice in the first 3 laps of the race by different people. Second hit damaged my car making it hard to drive. (Steering wheel a few degrees left to go in a straight line.) Then my kids started raising hell.

So for my first race, that totally sucked. >:(

Hope I did a good job getting out the way of the faster cars.

Really really annoyed with how that all went. >:(

Out of interest, what time do you think the praccy server will be back up for Watkins Glen please admins?

Same here... somehow I hit rock bottom  ???


Again? You should really buy a new one  ;D

Bit a a hectic start with several ctd's and swamp sections..
my apologies for the first 180 corner I overshot.. got some real life distraction.

Pretty hard to make room on such a small track when being lapped.. so if I ruined anybody's race, please accept my apols and file a Mod Incident  :-\.

Must admit I was a bit agitated  :angel:

Thanks for the clean fights (Pseudo, Prodigy Cortina) and grats to podium!

See you all next week.

ps. this beats Iracing  ;)

Apologies to whoever I hit at the hairpin, I slammed the brakes on as soon as the brake lights went on but the mustang must have worse brakes than the falcon. :-[

Gave up after I'd rolled the car for the second time. The car was perfect in qually but it was awful in the race. :-\

Looks like you havnt got the latest skin pack..that happened to me today.

My usual rubbish start let a couple of people through then found myself trying to get past Sandor i think, managed to get up the inside of the hairpin but he drove past me up the hill then his early braking caught me out and i punted him off. Sorry, I stopped to let you past but i didnt get back upto speed and let a few more past. So then spent the rest of the race trying to get back up the order.

Wasnt sure how your were going to take that move Pseudo, and was hoping you saw me up the inside into that RH. Sorry about that though felt there was room for us both. Then seemed to be locking up a bit too much and that caught me out a few times when racing both Alex Evert near the end, though dont know where you came from! Luckily for me it was the last lap and there was noone behind me!

Please report those incidents, they will be looked at but don't take them as the norm as standards have been excellent so far.

Apologies for the start. I did see lights but my wheel wouldn't stick into gear. I was just waiting for the deserved rear ender whilst franticly bashing upshift :-\ Says a lot for you lot that you all avoided me.

Going from 2nd to fifth on the start didn't half make for a great race ;D Outstanding battle with Mark and Oily the whole race long. Plenty of room given by you both but equally hard racing, that was as good as it gets really. We all tripped up around tail of field but it was terribly hard for all of us as everyone seemed to be in a race and its o so narrow. Congrats Steve and Dan.

Not happy that garage bug was missed and I (twas my fault) apologise. Did test this track for grid and garage slots even though you've used this track before but we can only really test it online with you gents :-\ Not happy that some missed out on championship points through no fault of their own, is there anything we can do? If you want we can make this a fun run? Gutted really.

p.s. Thanks to DG for making room :angel: And get that shot of me going beneath you Sandor :laugh:

replay and results available and watkins glen server up n running

Quality quality race.  Got a good start as SBG was slow to get away and after about 5 laps i had a nice gap of about 2 and a half secs.   Started to catch the traffic and had a bit of a nightmare like everyone did i think just a tip.. if lappers are coming up behing you into a corner please stay online and dont move at the last moment the lappers will find a way past  ;)

Steve finally caught me and had a great battle , i thought i could get him at the end as his tires might go off but i binned it at the hairpin which let SBG,Mark and Oily through.Sbg was unlucky as he got baulked twice ,first time was someone had been watching to much gym in the olympics and was doing a double back flip in the chicane . I stayed behind as it would have  been murky to go past but the second time just seemed like too much fun to blast straight through the middle. :)

Started catching Steve but was all too late. Good drive Steve .
Cheers

That was just racin spanner...I knew you were there and was trying to leave you room (albeit as little as possible  :ninja:) but we got to rubbing door handles and I came off worse...no probs, it could have been the other way round. At least we both tried hard not to do anything wrong. ;)

Dammit once again, after lap after lap of some seriously close stuff I manage to launch Mr Mclean into orbit at Cascades. Sorry again mate, from what I could tell it was anyone's race up until that point, waited for you but I guess the Stang had seen better days.

SBG, another brown trouser moment through traffic at Druids, this is becoming a bit of a habit  ;D  Hat off to Dan again, mental times in qually and in the race, unlucky mate, not sure what happened there!

Pressure from PR at the end rounded off another mix of awesome racing and a little shame on my part lol, cheers organiser chaps and Prodigy team mates - unlucky Tibs and Tony, off to Watkins for some points with a bit of luck.....might even make it a clean one!

Just wandering. Since I ran out fuel at the end of lap 23, shouldn't I be ranked above people who finished a lap down, since they didn't even enter lap 23? Not really looking to get promoted from 18th 15th, but more reporting of what looks like a bug to me in the way the results are calculated.

I would report the incidents, but have no idea who either of them involved. Plus right now it's probably best I don't know given him angry I am. I think it's best if I chalk this up to experience and move on. I was taken out more in those 3 laps than I was in the previous 12 GRC races I've driven since I got back into racing.

The incidents made me angry, which caused my driving to get worse, then my kids distracted me which made it even worse and completely ruined my rhythm.

"Pathetic" describes the race. But I'm more worried of the impression I made on everyone else. Nobody here has ever raced with me before I think, so I am much more concerned about that.  ;D

@ Syd

This is a common thing in both GTL and GTR2 unfortunately Syd....we just have to live with it.

@Spadowski

Download the replay, review the incidents, calm down (or get madder in some cases lol) see who it was from the replay and please add the incident reports.

As said before, they are not there to get folk in trouble...but unless they are reported folk dont get to understand what they may have done wrong and therefore cant learn from any mistakes.

I will check it out later. Gotta install the new graphics card etc... But I will check it out once I've showered, benchmarked, installed cards etc...

Cheers, Martin & me on there now  8) It's awesome!!!

Had a fun race with a lot of close racing and some minor incidents.

First lap passed Spanner just before the chicane but we made contact what caused me to crash the car straight into the chicane. (Thanks for waiting Spanner).

Aftet that it was just keeping the car on the track and try to pass some other people what was very hard on this track.
I've tried to past Legzy on the left, on the right and even through him but he wouldn't go. Sorry for all the paint i've stolen from your car .

When I finally passed Legzy i made an error and went into a barrier and ruined my suspension. It was pretty hard to control the car and I screwed up again in the chicane.

I knew that the runners-up were just behind me and while I was balancing the car on his nose the only thing I could do was press the escape button.  Hopefully nobody had problems because of me  ..
;D Will make a wallpaper of it  ;D

It's a real shame that when you watch the replay you see the un-gentlemanly behavior or some individuals. If I accidently hit another car and they lose it as a consquence I will always wait for them to rejoin and pass me, even if I lose a bucket load of positions in the process, because that's the way that makes this racing the best there is.

Others, it appears, don't have such manners, which like I say is a real shame.

Rant over

It's more helpfull if you report those incidents than to start ranting about it.

No I don't agree. This is about racing etiquette which is not something you should get penalised for having or not having. It's down to the moral fibre of the individual.
Unlike accidents caused by bad driving which I would have no problem reporting.

Morning guys,
Reasonable race for me.
Thanks to Legzy for a great Cortina set up which had me switching from my trusty Falcon, 20mins before the start!
Not quite as quick as the Falcon but not by much.
Had a clean'ish start, saw a Falcon come past me down the hill at warp factor 12 ! no way he has ever gonna make the corner!
Only just brushed me so that was lucky!
Had an absolutely awesome race with Wiltshire Tony for 10th for ages.
The classic Falcon vs Cortina battle that I'm guessing the organisers planned.
I was quicker in the first third of the circuit and was always trying to get inside at the hairpin!
Even if I did Tony just drove away from under power! and I would close up near the end of the lap again.
Lap after lap, bumper to bumper! Then of course I lost concentration, braked on the brow of the hill before the hairpin and slammed into the barrier, luckily missing Tony!
Superb fun, very close, fair racing. it doesn't get any better than that!
After a few more laps, I think Tony span too which left me behind him again. Was really looking forward to round 2 but he must have had a few car/tire issues as I was soon past, shame!  ; :(

Just wish I was a bit more competitive, there was a glimmer of hope last season but if anything I seem to be getting slower!?  :'(

Thanks all, grats to the alien podium, at least I didn't get lapped!

M.

How do you expect people to improve if they don't know they were at fault. People with good etiquette might feel spoken about, whereas people that did it wrong don't even know it.
Reports are not there just to penalize somebody, they are there to improve the overall racing.

No, again I cannot agree with you. People know if they should wait for a victim to re-pass. It's whether they choose to that's the problem.

@ Blunder, Cheers mate, yes that was too close sometimes. Glad it wasn't a Wednesday night or the outcome might off been different lol.
Wasn't sure till the replay whether it was you or legzy behind me all that time but great racing. Really just that alone made it a good night for me. May it continue.
PS I was in a Mustang  ::)

Those Lardie tanks all look the same! I remember it was Red so may be I am more in touch with my feminine side today!?  :lol:

and yes, made my evening that bit too. Oh and the panties of course! ;D

Oh sure. You just can't beat a late night, all guy, pantie bonding session

Phew, that was a fantastic race with Dan, you had the pace, a few tenths all along, but not the luck.

Thanks to Ian for gifting me second with wheel woes.  ;)  Got away in second, but with Bara pressurizing me hard I couldn't settle and was slightly overdriving so Dan pulled away a bit.  Then Bara maybe made a mistake and I was free to run my own pace.  Still I don't think I would have closed on Dan without lapping problems for him, we all had problems on this insanely narrow track (no disrespect to lapped drivers, it was very tricky for everyone), but I'm guessing it may have been trickier for the Cortina with its inability to pass on the straights.

Once I was close to Dan I tried to apply pressure and a small overshoot at the hairpin let me through.  Then we had a brilliant dice, he dived down the inside at the hairpin the first time and I was able to repass on the run to the chicane, so I got to practice my defensive driving, covering the inside into the hairpin, and for several laps we were side by side round the hairpin, both leaving space.  Must have been frustrating, Dan was clearly quicker but the old V8 grunt kept me in there.  That was quality racing between us.   :)  Finally got a gap when Dan must have made an error, then apart from losing chunks of time through slight misunderstandings with lappees, I was able to manage to gap to the end.

Another few laps and Dan would have had me though, I was running really good laps but only making 39 dead, lack of traction on the old tyres.  But I made no major mistakes which was very satisfying.

Sorry to hear some people had a bad introduction to UKGTL, it's not usually like that.  Please do put in reports for bad driving after viewing the replay and stick with it.

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Just a suggestion!

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You forgot one strip over the mouth ;D

What did that poor duck to anybody ?  :'(

She's a Goth, she only likes skelanimals :P

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I also got CTD'd twice in practice. Never happened to me before at any track. Got in a right panic when it was happening that I might miss the race!


I just wish I could drive my setups as well as you do >:(

Drove hard all race & was clinging onto 14th spot until about a lap to go, span it at the hairpin right (by dropping into 1st gear too early) & lost two places & the single championship point I'd tried so desperately hard to get/keep  :'( Looking at the final 'Top Ten' finishing spots is like looking at a who's who in Sim racing! (Sorry Martin, you were 11th ;D) With that kind of quality line up I'm not sure I'll ever manage a point again! But I'll keep trying, starting with Watkins Glen (what a track!).

Legzy

p.s. Thanks again admins for sorting the server out so quickly after the race. It led to a great fun praccy session.

Hey Jeff, not true... I also like long walks on the beach and poking dead stuff with a stick!

LOL, just a warning before hand, Germans like to lie in self dug holes, they are not dead however ;). But, be my guest in poking them with a stick :P.

Ok, but first point here is that as we have said on numerous occasions, the incident report system is not there as a primary source of PUNISHMENT, but as a tool to help highlight and help rectify any instances of errors, bad driving, lack of etiquette or simple rule breaking. The 'Moral Fibre' that you mention....I bet yours differs from mine and mine differs from Jeff's and SBG's differs from Dave's etc etc etc.
There are a set of rules and guidelines that we all have read and understand, these cover race etiquette and what level of conduct is expected and required, so if you, or anyone else feels these are not being adhered to then incident reports should be made without hesitation....how else can the mod team try to rectify them?

My second point is, ....even accidently hitting another car should be reported....especially if it then causes a 'loss of etiquette' from the involved driver. An Accident is an incident after all and should be reported as such....once again not with the intention of handing out a penalty, but to highlight the how's why's and wherefor's of the accident and try to prevent a recurrance.

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@ Psuedo, Ok understood. I'll submit a eye witness report tonight.

sorry Steve for getting in your way when you were lapping me. i saw you coming and moved over .have looked on the replay and the car turned on the raise to the hairpin and i basically swerved in front of you .my fault :oops:

That was related to the lack of garages I guess? Thats entirely down to me I'm afraid, sorry. I did mention that I was unhappy that some lost out and wondered if something should be done as a result but, as no one has commented, I guess we are happy for result to stand. Its a shame that a lot of the add on GB tracks have limited garages (realistic  ???) even though they can accommodate large grids. We could keep entries number higher knowing the race will be ok but we believe the grief that happened last night is best avoided so will limit grids in future. If it goes any lower than 25, which hasn't happened yet, we will not use that track.   

Unofficial Lapchart (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/steveh/OultonGTL/)

No worries Jimmer, like I said, it was a tight track and hard work for the lapper and the lappee.

I can't remember whether it was you, but I did get in a right pickle lapping someone, meant to flash the lights, left them on, then thought I'd engaged the pit limiter cause the car stopped accelerating, changed my LCD mode several times as I forgot all the button mappings in the heat of the moment and finally after some seconds realized I hadn't changed up from 3rd to 4th and that was why I'd stopped accelerating.  Doh! ;D  Total senior moment, panic set in.

So the 'lights on for ages' wasn't actually intentional.

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They could be a tad busy!

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Just to say sorry to anyone who got involved with my spin on the second lap. I got a back wheel on the grass & around the Falcon went & unfortunately ended up in the middle of the track. I think Pseudo & Spanner were two that got involved, sorry guys. So for the second week running I had to work my way back up the field, only managing 10th this week though, & that was courtesy of Syd running out of fuel on the last lap!

Apart from the spin it was a good race, thanx all.

Cya at Watkins Glen.

Geoffers

Can I post a report.... I think I cracked a rib laughing as No Brake Drake shot past my other half at 'this is going to hurt' speed just before the jiggly bit (technical term) causing him to soil himself slightly!!!

@ Gothwitch, I think your report's should be compulsory reading after every race.

Yep.. thinking of putting myself forward as moderator... The said car drove straight up his trumpet like a looney.. penalty death!!

Sounds to me like two incident reports should be submitted  :D