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The Pete Allnutt birthday event!

Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(15 mins)
Race:	20:25	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GT2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: UKGTR Imola GP 2004 (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Race Start Time: 18:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
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(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

18:00, means it'll get dark at the final part of the race? Love Imola :)

Yep, it'll be late evening when the race ends.

whoohoo, i am back from Italy near San Marino in time to race at ..err, San Marino !  eheh Good stuff  8)

'Might' even take a Ferrari  :o in honour of my hosts for last few weeks and all the pasta they force fed me  ;D

Does this mean we have to let him win outright?  ;D

Fine by me.  :yes:

And get fastest lap  :o

Thanks in advance chaps  ::)

Is this, like, a testimonial race? ;)


I am hoping to to be back in time for this from the F3/GT meeting at Silverstone so i'll stick with the lister for this from last week. Probably mean i'll end up right in the middle of the GT2 ranks ::)

Just have to hope the weather conditions stay good for this  :(....quite a big fps hit on my pc in the wet and dark...may have to miss out if I keep stuttering as bad.

Hi guys, been a while.

My brother will be visiting with his family today, I hope he leaves before the race. If he does, I'd like to take part, it's still open to all members I hope?

lolllll......happy burfdey  ;)

This should be great fun, I don't like this track online because i'm not skilled enough at cutting the track  ::)

....thankfully we're only racing on the black stuff in this version  ;D

This track and the MC12 just dont seem to go together, I'm really struggling.  I think that my best hope for race pace willl be in the 46's. I'm not looking forward to this one at all..it's just going to be torture...

Yep - I've done no practice whatsoever!

Maybe this Time Trial lap will help:
http://files.filefront.com/Jeffrey+Ruskus+1+41+6362GTT/;8085629;/fileinfo.html

Won't be able to make tonight and probably the next couple of weeks as my missus finally gave birth to a baby boy. This one was mega quick and we didn't even make it to the hospital - he was born in our hallway!!

The ambulance pulled up just as I was about to deliver the baby's head :) Not stressful in any way whatsoever ;)

McFids, the part time Doctor! Congrats! ;D

I don't like this track and really struggled the last time I raced here (think I quallied 9th in the Lambo, and finished 12th or 11th). So spent some time completely re-doing the setup for the Lister round here, and much happier with it.

Still don't like the track though. The Chicane at the top of the track is evil.

I'm not home until tomorrow so I'm going to miss out on this one.

My 575 felt really stable around here the other night and had a very consistent stable race. Would have liked to have raced but other things coming ahead of it at the moment.

Have fun!

Congrats to you McFids  ;)...sounds like an enjoyable night  :laugh:

Congratulations McFids, hope you didn't make a mess of the carpet  :D

Make sure you turn your graphics settings down if it's going to be dark and wet. 8)

congratulations Mcfids, :) nice job  ;)

and Happy Birthday Peter  :sorcerer:

Thansk Jeff, I'll take a look....and cry   ;D

Congrats, McFids!  :)

Congrats, McFids!   :)

Congrats, McFids!   :)

In the hallway  :o

Congratulations  :D

Congrats Mcfids, sounds like it was just a bit stressfull!


I've just got in, and am bloody knackered. If its wet and dark then i think i'll not bother. Nevermind.

I've not really had the practice I'd have liked for this one, ah well, I'll give it my best shot.

hehe, being lazy  ;)

unfortunately cudn't join until about 8.15 and all the slots were taken   :( shame cos i wanted to retain the GT2 lead in the championship. On the plus side i'm not very good here  :)

hope it was good in the rain hehe  :P   :D :boat:

grr.

I'd qualified 6th with a few seconds still to find, so I was looking like a great result by my standards.

Went to grid and then back to garage to double check my fuel level, and on clicking the button to go back to the grid, Avast has its virus db update dialog appearing, it stole the click and launched an update app that required admin priveledges, and that UAC prompt crasher GTR2.

Not amused, flooded track, would've been a great race for me!

:(

Load of baloney that one...total waste of a weeks practice time.

Did some wet practice...and had a reasonable set up....but when the temps drop from sunny and 32 deg to flooded and 6 deg....my setup may as well just have been thrown through the window.  :(

I'm all for REAL world weather and the like....and I don't mind wet races either.....but that was just totally wrong tonight.... nothing like real world weather....except the praccy session...(although that was a fair bit hotter than it actually is/was in Imola). Totally flooded track, thunder storms...28 car grid, all with lights on and an evening start time.......that race was for folk with better machines than mine only....

ah well.....spose you have to be up to date with your technology.

Same here, Psuedo.  :( 

Had a good quali lap and it was a race wet setup with less fuel. How could this be so different in the race?  ???  Car was all over the place while I had a feeling in quali I could push even more.  >:(  The thing went over the edge when I hit spinned RR and got a puncture. Couldn't hold it on track, went into sand got fed up. I think the cleaver weather file should get some tweaking.  ;)

TT

What can I say, it's bad to retire but much worse to ruin somebody else's race, sorry Prof! :-[ :'(

I'll report the incident but the only thing I can say in my defense is that I didn't see you coming due to lag issues, which I think got worse after I retired :( Thing is, I had been waiting for all cars to pass me before rejoining, I thought nobody else was coming then your car appeared only 50 metres behind. Sorry again!

My race was looking good in 3rd chasing RR and FreQ but a spin under acceleration made me pick up a puncture and then all this happened :-\

Here are a couple of pics helping my explanation and my report:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3887/punctureuq3.png)
Two cars go by, at that moment I think nobody else is going to approach.

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9536/puncture2ko8.png)
Prof's car suddenly appears when I am already trying to rejoin, not looking backwards...

Well, I know I'm just about the worst rain driver there is.

But....even so I just wasn't expecting this.

I really like Imola, was hoping to hit 42s or even 41s in the dry, based on the few praccy laps I got in. Come Qually, I couldn't really get any decent heat in the soft wet rears, so I thought I'd make it a three stopper, with soft tires.

After some laps I was up to 150 and then shortly 160C right rear, going way out of control. Very sorry to the GT2 guys I kept getting in the way of.

Rain finally stopped and given the rear temps I had I thought it couldn't get any worse, so I went in for dry tires. Yeah, well, it could get worse.

I was a total hazard, spinning several times per lap, and also being lapped by GT2 cars. Had had to give up before I took someone out.

My apologies to everyone I got in the way of.

Did OK in qually for the amount of practice I'd had (& in the wet too), then GTR crashed on me. Managed to rejoin game with seconds left :D but from the back obviously.

Thought we might get a sunny start with rain later, but freezing weather & storms were the reality. Did my best to pace myself, but managed to damage my front end early on & hoped for the rain to stop soon so I could fuel up & mend the damage! I didn't have to wait too long, stayed out till my wets were cooking then dived in & put on intermediates....  :boat:

I should have gone to hard wets. I was slipping all over but it was getting better with every lap so I thought I'd stick with it & hope for sunshine  ::)  My lap splits were getting better & the confidence was growing. Then somehow I managed to catch a kerb at the start of the home straight & hit the spectator stands full on.  :censored:

Sorry to anyone who my burning wreck may have distracted while I searched for the nearest fire exit.

Enjoyed the race, another one chalked up for experience. Congrats to everyone that goes the distance.

hi all,

My return in this track, i made a nice qualify in the storm :), and in the race i was strong to, but in  lap i got 1 stop and go, and them ither and other, well i push ESC end of story :)

Apologies for tap Gomez, you slipped in chicane and I had nowhere to go. To be fair, it straightened you out nicely :laugh:

Despite that, twas a good race. Awful spin at chicane taking just a little too much kerb (different car with fuel ::)) left me behind PR, Dan and Gomes and avoiding poor old Mike, I counted six spins mate ;), for first stint. Got back up to Dan and pressurised him to no avail, good stuff. Pitted with me softs after long stint and, as track still seemed wet, went with soft wets again. All seemed well, PR was away and gone and I presumed it was a GT1 car closing me down at a rate of knots. Unfortunately, for me, it was a flying Mark and I was just lucky the spray saved me.

No idea what happened on last lap but whatever occurred I think PR was more than a worthy winner. Bugger.

Sorry for not making lapping easier, think I held up Freq, but that was real tough :) Congrats to all that finished.   

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20080817%20U8UE/index.html)

I do not expect you to report yourself Busi - I would have messed up by myself given a bit longer.  :D  Put it down to conditions.

I made it back to the pits for lots of repairs and should have pressed esc there. Joined well last and never found any rhythm on the circuit concentrating on trying to keep out of the way. My evil handling car did not even let me do this properly and I struggled to the end in poor style. Sorry to those I obstructed the worst of which was Jan - I had spun on the track and in trying to get out of everyone's way I was badly in your way - didn't see you because of the corner until too late, sorry. As soon as I went off line to make way, the car was always likely to misbehave.

Lesson of the day: If in doubt and last: give up.

No Problem with that, Dan Minton is entering the track so i brake hard and loose speed you can avoid my rear

Busi, I've been there and done that. Doesn't look like people are coming and then they do out of the gloom. What I would say is that having done that myself the best thing you can do to avoid it is to reverse up first and try to get as straight as possible to the track to narrow the entry at which you are coming back onto the circuit. Sometimes I've spent 30 seconds doing a 23 point turn just to avoid coming back onto the tarmac at a silly angle, especially when there's not much room to maneover at the side of the track.

Race report...
I never practice anyway, so I didn't care what the weather did, although I didn't really want rain and dark as it's hard (boo hoo ;) :P). I just took my existing dry setup, stiffened the front a bit, added full wing, a couple of notches of both differential settings and moved the brake bias back half a click. Qualified 7th I think and with the monsoon conditions knew it was all about keeping it on the road and forget where you are or what times you are doing. I let others spin in front and behind me and soon I was up into 3rd still driving slowly and carefully. As rain stopped I had to try and cool my soft wets off-line (as did everyone) and decided to not pit until I was about to run out of fuel. 25 minutes to go and it was time to come in and decided to stick Inters on for the last bit (as Joss's Inter report was positive). I came out of the pits with a 20 second cushion to Gazza and the Inters were better after I gradually brought them up to speed. 2 seconds a lap faster on the inters until I lapped team mate Gizmo and decided that I would try braking a little bit later for the left hander just before the hill into Aqua Minerale. Apparently it was a bad decision as it spun vicously sending me spearing back across the track and whacking my front end into the barrier. Carried on, but front end damaged slowed me back to where I was on the over-heating soft wets. Anyway, it was enough in the end as I eased off towards the end to make sure of the Team Shark 1-2.

Well done to all that made it, very tough and challenging conditions a real test of skill and concentration. I think I enjoyed that, but I'm not convinced, was really tough going. :laugh: The Ferrari is horrible in the wet on the slow speed stuff. Having driven the Lambo in the wet a lot, I can honestly say it has far superior traction in the wet out of the slow speed stuff. Ferrari was ok on the brakes actually and not bad in the high speed stuff, but I needed my best throttle control tonight out of the slow speed corners.

P.S. We're all in the same boat with the weather, so although it might not have been perfect, we're all having to deal with the same evil conditions. The weather generation stuff onyl deals with initial conditions and changeability (I think) and the game does the rest, so not entirely sure what tweaking Gizmo can do tbh?

Joss was so far ahead of everyone else it was amazing stuff from him to be 2 seconds a lap faster than anyone else in qually and race. Great job there and to Gazza for 3rd place.

Well done to GT2 podium too, sorry half of you had gone by the time I'd finished my lap, so I don't know who won.

Well done Freq and SBG for both class wins  ;)
As for my race.... :stupid: :eek: :censored: :balloon: :sleep1: :yawn: :whistling:
although... :yes: :scooter: :rockon: :clap:
anyway.... :fencing: :thumbup1: :blink:
For all that, i only want to say as a conclusion, that i really like to drive in wet tracks

Cheers

Really hard race.

I started off ok but fell off a few times trying to cool my tyres at about 40 mins into the race. I then pitted and really messed up my pit and had to drive round again. I then (for some unknown reason) thought that it would be a good idea to put med dry tyres on, LOL. I span many times trying to get back to the pit and eventually had to hit 'esc' to avoid a collision after spinning into the middle of the track :(

Once again an important leason learnt :P

That was horrible  :P

No idea what was going on in Qually, just stuck fuel in and guessed a setup, spun a load and managed to stay on for a few laps.
At the start I was in 1st gear, and then thought maybe 2nd would be better as it was so wet and the Lister has soo much torque, TT quickly proved my point ;D

Felt good after a few laps, pitted very late to see what the weather would do and finally went for inters after a spin on destroyed soft wets. They were much better but lethal off line.

Towards the end I was just getting frustrated with the constant lapping (nothing against anyone). I was always up 0.3 or 0.5 only to catch yet another GT2 and lose time. It was relentless and the speed difference was so big, then I made a load of mistakes and caught Ribs......where I think I just forgot how to drive for 3 laps. ;D

Then hit Jan 3 mins from home after he spun in the middle of the track....tried to go inside but couldn't turn. Oh well, no harm done. Last 2 laps were fun with no lights!

Looking forward to a dry race now! N1 to everyone who stayed on and finished - v tough in those conditions.

Thanks for your words SBG, but you deserved to win due your consistent driving  ;)
We almost had an epic fight this time  :D

wow it was wet then!

good news for me is i'm still top!!  ;D

That was tough!! Real test of concerntration!!

Struggled a bit in qualy but managed a decent lap right at the end which gave me 5th so was quite happy.

When i saw the race start was flooded i just put on soft wets all round and put the wing up a bit but was unsure on how much coz i thought i might dry out, after panicking a bit i realised there was 7 secs left before the race so just hit race button!! So i dont actually know what rear wing i started with lol. 

Race started ok and just concerntrated on keeping it on the road which payed off as others fell off, soon found myself in 2nd but Simon was catching. Held him off for a bit but he finally got passed but then he went straight on at turn 1 i think and i was back in 2nd. He soon caught me and passed again so i thought right you have a 3rd here if you just keep it on the black stuff. Luckerly my soft wets lasted great right up to my pitstop but was unsure what to put on at the stop. Gambled on hard wet rears and soft wet fronts which seemed to work ok although i had to keep cooling the fronts down with about 15 mins to go. I did put too much fuel in at the stop which in hindsight might of meant i could of sneaked 2nd as only 6 secs behind Simon at the end coz of his accident, but very very happy with a 3rd.  :) :)

Grats to Freq, amazing pace in wet  :o and Simon.
Grats to GT2 podium.

P.S GT2's were excellent tonight in very difficult conditions.


 

Was thinking the same thing and stuck it into 2nd, but even that was too much.  >:(  I think I spinned over the track and Psuedo (?) hit me - sorry for that. Was caught by surprise, I thought 2nd's gonna grip nicely. Rookish.  :censored:

That was hard but rewarding - sort of. Started on soft wets all round and in the rain figured I could go the full distance without any fuel when I stopped, so I stayed out as long as I could, cooling my rears off line and occaisionally missing Variante Alta as a result. ::) :D

Had no idea what to change to when I came in so picked hard wets as I was worried about aquaplaning - I think that was a mistake and I should've taken intermediates all round as I still had to cool the rears.

Had the odd run off and one silly spin when I tried to hold a tight line coming out of Tosa and just gave it too much welly on the wet stuff, spinning off into the barrier and breaking the front a bit.

4th in class isn't bad given that I never really had any pace in the car - I presume Mark McClean picked up a DQ after the finish and not on the last lap?

Was twiddling my thumbs come Sunday night so thought I'd go for a quick spin out with the GTR lads for a change as it was a track I knew. Wasn't expecting the drizzle though :)

Haven't seen anything quite like that before but seeing the forecast, I cranked up the wing, softened everything off and gave it a bash. Was a very cool experience, loved the lightning, having to find the puddles and manage spray, just awesome stuff.

Spent the first few laps just trying to stay in the train and not completely embarrass myself by beaching it and somehow the rhythm just continued. Outbraked myself a few times as the wets wore out but other than tapping Prof (sorry mate!) was pleased not to have ever turned my 550 around. Think I would have done ok if it hadn't have been for the three stop/ go's! Was nice to interrupt FreQ's perfect run of fastest laps at least though.

Was a baptism of fire but loved every minute of it skating about the place, in fact I nearly screwed the fuel strategy totally the time flew so fast.

Cheers chaps, grats FreQ, SBG and everyone else who brought it home in one piece!  ;D

Started out good ended crap. :(
Was behind PR after SBG spun but was just of his pace to make a move. Made a few mistakes and had sBG for company this made me concentrate a bit more and managed to put a few good laps in before my stop.
Was sure it was going to start drying so went for inters but it never happened and spent the second stint slipping and sliding all over the place.
Didnt realize i was going so slow until Mark M came flying past me as if i was driving backwards!!

Nevermind. ::)

Cheers

Is there a way to practice with different track/ambient temperatures when offline? Some file I have to edit maybe?

My offline practice always seems to be set at about 20c (wet or dry), I set my car up for under those conditions & the tyres are fine. Yet we raced on-line here at Imola at about 7c & Valencia at over 30c (where my tries/oil/water cooked).

Cheers

Yep...you can practice the 'real world' weather offline too, using the 'weather.txt' file that usually come with the replay download package is the easiest way....but you can edit it in notepad to suit your needs better if required. Just ensure when you have done any editing etc that you make the filr 'READ ONLY' in the properties.
You will need to copy and paste this file into the folder C:/GTR/User Data/Log Dedicated (or equivalent place on your install)
You will then need to run your dedicated server on your own machine...and set it up for the track/times etc you want. Ensure you change the 'weather' drop down to 'changable' and then just run your game as normal....but instead of going online through the 'internet' go to your 'Local Network' and the game you started in your dedi server, with the weather file active.

hope you can follow that

If enough people care I don't have any objections to making the "Generate Weather" link used by the moderators publicly accessible, with the caveat that of course it generates new random weather each hit so won't tell you what weather you'll actually get for the event.

Real Weather.....Rules!! ;D

Tough going, but hey, it dosn't it get any more interesting than that.
If one has a decent graphics card and the settings are high, it is just stunning and atmospheric 8)

I had a great race, and a 6th in GT2 and 11th overall is ok under the circumstanes.

Err...  :no:
But thanks for the info, I'll give it a go & see what I break how I get on  ;)

Or does Dave's post make things easier?  ???

if you substitute    with


then everything else is the same
 ;)