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Title: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 06, 2008, 10:55:51 PM +0100
Practice 1:20:15(5 mins)
Qual 2:20:20(15 mins)
Race:20:35(50 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
GTC includes: 360 Modena, 911 GT3-RS, Morgan, Mosler, TVR
Weather: Seeded from real-world conditions, fixed for the full event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero)
Track: Interlagos (v2.0.1.0, download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_interlagos))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=185;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: spanner on August 14, 2008, 09:14:51 PM +0100
Its been a while since we ran here, and having just practised here have things changed? I need to go back and check something.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 14, 2008, 09:19:04 PM +0100
Rear tyre heating has been reduced slightly in this version.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: spanner on August 14, 2008, 09:43:33 PM +0100
So the track grip has been slightly reduced then? I'll have to check my version, I managed a 1.36.6 earlier but will have to see online what it'll be like.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 14, 2008, 10:07:24 PM +0100
So the track grip has been slightly reduced then?

No, rear tyre heating has been reduced. Exactly what I wrote above.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: spanner on August 15, 2008, 09:32:43 PM +0100
Having just check the files i now see what you meant. And having driven it it can see that catching people out, though that might have been more to do with the braking into turn 1. My second lap was a 36.2 so i can see people getting down the laptimes down quite far.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: JPS on August 19, 2008, 12:09:15 PM +0100
Tip my hat to who ever put this track together, it looks stunning 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Mike Hammer on August 19, 2008, 12:40:07 PM +0100
Hmm. I fear I may be joining more series then I will have time to attend later this year. But after the disastrous Imola race, I just have to get some more Fezza seat time, even if this is the baby version.

Also: Scattered Clouds. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.
Looking good to me  :)


EDIT:

I spoke too soon, seems I can't make it tonight. Forgot about a previous engagement. Have a good race guys.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: psuedo on August 19, 2008, 01:12:16 PM +0100
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Also: Scattered Clouds. High:78 ° F. / 26 ° C.

Ahhh...so expect snow then  ;) :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Mark J on August 19, 2008, 02:27:23 PM +0100
did some praccy on the srouk server last night. Its a stunning looking version of the track, very nicely done. Looks almost real down the back straight when you can see the skyline etc and all the trackside paraphenalia.  8)

Looking forward to tonights race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: David M on August 19, 2008, 08:55:34 PM +0100
I can't beleive that just happened!

Qualified 12th I beleive, kept my place into T1, and was happily following the cars ahead, managed to gain a place when purdie (I think) ran wide into a corner, he lost a few places and rejoined behined me.

He then wouldn't get off my bumper for 2/3 laps until I made a total balls up into a corner near the end of the lap, he passed me going through the downhill right hander just before the timing line, I stayed on the outside to try and get alongside him under braking - having carried more momentun round the corner, only to be squeezed out and forced into braking earlier (very fair, I enjoyed it :D) - I then tried to get at him coming out of the final 'real' corner, but
accidentally short shifted and lost any acceleration advantage I had.

He then went straight on at T1 and I got the place back  :laugh:

And my wheel promptly re-connected itself to the PC, so I had no control and had to bail...grr, not sure why it's doing that, but I shall investigate!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Ade on August 19, 2008, 09:42:51 PM +0100
Don't know what happened there  ??? as soon as the light turned green i got a stop n go >:(   thought it was a mistake so stayed out till my pit crew called me in  :o  then had to make it my mission to catch Legzy  :) nearly mate .


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Legzy on August 19, 2008, 09:46:09 PM +0100
My 1st GTC race & enjoyed it. Jumped in a car with an Oldie skin & off I went. Set a PB for the track in Qually, only to find myself still on the back row!  :(

But managed to stick with API for about the first 8-10 laps of the race & knocked over 1.5secs of my best laptime  ;D

Spent the rest of the race on my own, slowly seeing API move away & Ade catching me by a second or so a lap... clung on to my position with 1 second to spare 8) Glad I didn't have to hold out another lap that's for sure.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 19, 2008, 09:47:11 PM +0100
Another exciting GTR2 race. Started an unexpected 2nd behind Dan with my practice/setup time consisting of doing the 7:15 iRace at Summit Point and then hurriedly downloading the Interlagos track before the start of this one. ;D

Love Interlagos so wasn't worried about no track time or setup. I cobbled a decent one together from my Brands setup reversed the left/right stuff for the anti-clockwise nature of the circuit and took off a load of wing.

Started 2nd and finished 2nd, never gaining or losing position. That didn't really tell the whole story though as the top few cars were always pretty close and in the end the top three finished only a second or so apart. 8)

I was close to Dan for the first 3rd, then in the middle whilst I went into tyre preservation mode I lost 2 seconds to him. Decided to save some tyres for the last 5 minutes and to push hard and use whatever tyre was left. It worked as I closed up on him, especially in the last lap, whilst Mark M behind me did the same to me. Was quite an exciting finish, but I wish I'd pushed a couple minutes earlier than I did in hindsight. But heck, that's my measured approach for you.

Great result and the usual fun. Very well done to Dan on the win.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: psuedo on August 19, 2008, 09:53:50 PM +0100
Enjoyable race that one...really nice track that one  :thumbup1:

Qually was as good as I could expect....equalled my pb to get 7th.

I have noticed during praccy here that this track tends to bite you pretty hard...especially on worn rubber, so I went with a very safe setup and managed the race without any 'offs'. Could have gone a bit less conservative though as I finished with only 12 tyre wear on my mediums ::). It did make me a little slower in race pace than I could have been...but I reckoned I would be able to hold up folk behind long enough to let my tyre strategy come into play.
Would have worked to but I made it easy for them...Dave first when I just clipped the barrier on the apex at T1...that lost me enough Momentum for him to sail passed me on the straight. Then MJ I think....I got a little out of shape and invited him passed ::)....Same thing with Pete and then Steve too....Love it when a plan comes together  :death:

Got Pete back when he Disco'ed (unlucky mate...you were fairly flying) MJ ran wide and returned my earlier gift....Then Steve fell off chasing evert hard on the last lap and I sneaked by to finish 8th.

Great stuff tonight...some pretty close stuff that was a joy to be part of.

Grats to Dan and podiums.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Minton on August 19, 2008, 10:04:25 PM +0100
Good race.. Was feeling really tired after doing a E320 race at nordishliefe in the early hours of this morning.Couldnt rest for a minute as i knew Simon and Mark would be straight on me if i had.   Made a few mistakes towards the end as my nerves started to go as Simon was really pushing but just managed to hold it all together. ;D

Think i put the limiter on a bit early at the start seem like an age to get to the finish line and soz for the chat at the end thought everyone had finished.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: picnic on August 19, 2008, 10:18:06 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20080819%20U8LS/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: picnic on August 19, 2008, 10:22:11 PM +0100
Damn computers  :( Was really enjoying the battles I was having tonight until the PC froze for around 10 secs. When it came back I had a minor accident but nothing to serious, however most of the textures were showing the wrong ones. Very 60/70's psychedelic style. Thought I'd continue but it happened almost immediately again so I quit before I ended up being the reason for someone else's accident.

Still as it all went wrong at 9:10 I had time to register for the 9:15 Skippy race and reboot before it started ;) Missed the fastest race lap by .008 of a second :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Prof on August 19, 2008, 10:43:00 PM +0100
Started right at the back having had to download the new Interlagos. Pleased to see no rain after Sunday.  ;D

Some good close racing amongst the non-aliens towards the back this evening. My usual battle with JPS came in two parts today after I made a mistake at turn 1. Catching up was one thing, overtaking was hard on this circuit. Pleased to gain 7 places before the end.

Close racing is the most enjoyable aspect of this league so great fun - thanks all.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: stnasky on August 19, 2008, 11:35:43 PM +0100
Good race,  although i think i took to much wing thinking about the tire wear late in the race but ah well :'(, it was all good ;D.  Nice battles with TT and Roadrunner but could only make gains when they had made mistakes.  Near the end i was getting closer to the front 2, they looked fairly close for last few laps and i was hoping they would slow each other down enough for me to take full advantage but it didnt happen.

Congrats to Dan btw, nice drive there m8. :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Truetom on August 20, 2008, 07:25:21 AM +0100
I must say I expected a better result here. After qualified 4th I surprised RR at braking into turn 8. Was some laps on 3rd position, even as close to Shark to think about overtaking moves as Shark and Dan were slowing eachother down and there was a string of 5 leading cars. RR started to be really close and I had to defend and we lost contact with the leading two. The car was acting a bit differently than in practice on-line sessions, locking rears and after correction in braking ballance it was locking fronts.  ::)  Had to either lock fronts or add throttle on every braking to fend off RR (I bet you saw lots of smoke there) but I was losing time and eventually he passed. Both RR and MarkMc were faster on the big straight and DG was also close to overtaking in the last laps.

Had some close laps and one touch with RR (I wanted to squeeze you a bit but you held your course  :thumbup1:), nothing dangerous. Some close laps with MarkMc and he also passed on the big straight. I had the wing 6. Were you porshe guys running lower wing or is it porka that much more powerful?  :(
Duel between MarkMc and RR enabled me to close the gap to them and after RR's mistake I passed him on 4th place. That was 12 minutes before the end and we had another set of close laps and some 5 minutes before the end I made a mistake in the last corner, hitting the wall. Seems like I had aero damage only / car was handling bad enough by then that I didn't notice any other damage.  ;D
RR passed me of course and DG came right on my tail. Three laps of defending, keeping the inner line and sweating on the big straight.  :sweatdrop: DG made a mistake in the last corner of the race or he would have passed me I think. Well, it would be close.  :)

Good race all around with constant battles. I think I should be satisfied as a combination of me and Mosler made the best possible performance, but...  ;)
MJ was close to me in the practice we had, so I guess the the loneliness in absence of his GF made him lose concentration at the start.  :P  Steve is learning setting the car, I think.  :)   

Grats to podium and thumbs up for high level of driving from all drivers around me.  :thumbup2: 

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Minton on August 20, 2008, 07:44:48 AM +0100
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Were you porshe guys running lower wing or is it porka that much more powerful?

I was running 10 as any less would have hurt the hard rears too much, Thought i was going to struggle on the long straights but seem to be ok.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Jeffrey on August 20, 2008, 08:07:03 AM +0100
I always thought the Mosler was a powerstation, but it was lacking compared to the Porsches, and also the Fezza's. That was a big disappointment when I used it, as that took away a lot of its fun.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 20, 2008, 08:19:19 AM +0100
I was running just 5 on the rear wing! Early race was trying to find a way by Psuedo, despite being in the same car we were strong in different places and just when I had come up with a plan he got T1 wrong and that was enough for me to bomb past at the end of the back straight. Car didn't like braking from the tighter inside lines but I knew I had to keep him behind until the final corner after which I should be safe, and that worked out nicely.

After that I spent most of the race trying to at least peg the gap to Mark McClean ahead and my Dutch Turtle nemesis Evert behind, hoping both of them would start to struggle with tyre wear in the Porkas towards the end of the race. To my horror, a few laps from the end Evert started to catch me - luckily he came under attack from Steve Holmes and Bob about three laps from the end and I suddenly had 3 seconds on him... and TT slowed dramatically, allowing me to glue myself to his tail for two laps. I clearly had better traction and good straight line speed so I planned to get a really strong exit from the last proper corner and simply drive past him up the hill. I would've worked too had I not run wide on the exit and had to back off the throttle. ::) :laugh:

I'll have to try and adapt the 360 GTC skin to the Modena now ready for the second half of the season!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 20, 2008, 09:21:56 AM +0100
as Shark and Dan were slowing eachother down and there was a string of 5 leading cars.

Yeah, I was trying all my usual tricks of pretending to overtake, putting him off with weaving and so on, but he wasn't phased at all, very good driving, kept himself focused on the racing line and the track ahead and that meant it was all in vein.

I was running 10 as any less would have hurt the hard rears too much, Thought i was going to struggle on the long straights but seem to be ok.

I was running 6 cause I knew the 911s would be quicker in a straight line. It was enough to keep up on the straights, but nothing more.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Mark J on August 20, 2008, 09:22:54 AM +0100
likewise here for a disapointing result in the race TT. :(
 Qualified a good 5th after being in top 5 all qually sesh and feeling good for the race.

Then made an error on the final turn on first flying lap with a wheel onto the kerbs and dropped to poxy 9th  :taz:...worst possible part of lap, i was so annoyed with myself and called myself all sorts of bad names, turning the air blue!  >:(

Thought right now ive got it all to do to claw my way back up front but it just didnt happen. I just didnt have the pace to get by anyone. Despite seeming to be quicker than Evert in his porker and throwing everything at him i couldnt get by, its a tough track to overtake on unless someone makes an error, and eventually i wore my rears out in the process, gradually dropping away after umpteen assaults on his position.
I then became easy meat for the ferraris with their better use of tyres and ended up finishing the race a crappy 9th or 10th. :'(
The car was a swine under braking for last 10 mins or so. My oversteery setup that felt great earlier and in practise cost me later on in race. 50 mins hurts the 911's rears, like 40mins is their optimum window.
Though reading posts above sounds like going for 6 wing was not ideal for tyre wear and a 7 or 8 would have kept the back end in better shape  :-\
Felt rather deflated at race end as was expecting a good result.  :(

Great looking track and a good challenge. Well done podium guys  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: purdie on August 20, 2008, 10:10:48 AM +0100
And my wheel promptly re-connected itself to the PC, so I had no control and had to bail...grr, not sure why it's doing that, but I shall investigate!

we had our own little race literally!

I didn't have much practise and had taken the day off work with a head-cold and I just could not concentrate  :-\ never mind learn the track (i know it anyway from GP2/3/4 but grip etc  :D)

quali'd with my race setup hence being 11th and then had a fund race with David briefly but never found my braking point for the first corner ....but i eventually found a wall.....  ::) lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: Steve Holmes on August 20, 2008, 10:11:43 AM +0100
I gotta echo most of the posts in what a great race that was.  Even though I didn't make a single pass and really struggled in the first half, and ninth isn't exactly my target finish position, it really felt like *racing*, was close to others almost all the time, scrapping for tenths, great stuff.

Shoulda done more than 30 mins practice on Sunday, I'm no Simon with a store of experience to call upon, and I'm probably also pretty slow to tune in to a track. To add to that my PC started stuttering and finally locked up after I joined so after restarting I only had time for an extremely tentative first lap on softs followed by a moderately tentative one! Not an ideal start......

Thought I might get MJ after his off on lap 1 but that would have been hideously optimistic.  Then had Pete behind me, I was quicker on some corners, but several I was just not getting at all and he was a bit quicker overall, had a good fight for a bit, he dived up the inside at the end of the back straight and I was able to cut back when he slightly overshot, good stuff, but eventually I succumbed.  Just followed on the back of the guys ahead after that, had a scary moment when Bob started spinning a couple of seconds ahead and I had to slam on the anchors and dive around, heart hammering there!

Sometime around lap 16 or 17 I started to understand how the Ferrari wanted to be driven and started lapping at least a second a lap faster, started closing on those ahead pretty quickly.  Had a good few looks around Evert, whose 911 was clearly lacking traction, while my 360 felt superb, and then on the final lap he was slow out of the last right hander of the lap and I thought '8th place, pah why settle, no fun in that' and went for it....so much I spun onto the grass.  :D  Enjoyable racing though.

Like TT says, starting to get this setting up thing, still wasn't perfect, but managed the tyres well and the balance was great at race end.  So 9th felt like progress!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: spanner on August 20, 2008, 06:16:09 PM +0100
That was really good fun and probably the first race where i was happy with no major dramas, overdriving etc. And didnt get lapped!

Qualifying started cooler than it had been uptill now so decided to stick softs on the front which worked early on but after a while the temps just rose higher, but got a good lap for me in anyway and by the end i ended up 15th with JPS just managing to beat me.

At the start i misjudged it and thought i'd released the limiter early so quickly stuck it back on only to realise JPS had actually gone ::) Thought they might have put Ade off behind but sounds like he had other issues! Though i was expecting him to come blasting past in the Morgan early on as that has good straightline speed. Then seemed to spend half the race welded to the back of JPS's bumper though noticed you were struggling a bit and managed to nip by as he braked a bit too late at the end of the second straight. By this time Prof had worked his way up and then spent the next half of the race trying to get past JPS which allowed me to build a gap and hold that to the flag. Though i did spend half my time watching Prof and JPS in my mirrors, wondering who was going to come out of the corners first!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC) - Interlagos - Aug 19
Post by: JPS on August 20, 2008, 07:03:27 PM +0100

At the start i misjudged it and thought i'd released the limiter early so quickly stuck it back on only to realise JPS had actually gone ::) Thought they might have put Ade off behind but sounds like he had other issues! Though i was expecting him to come blasting past in the Morgan early on as that has good straightline speed. Then seemed to spend half the race welded to the back of JPS's bumper though noticed you were struggling a bit and managed to nip by as he braked a bit too late at the end of the second straight. By this time Prof had worked his way up and then spent the next half of the race trying to get past JPS which allowed me to build a gap and hold that to the flag. Though i did spend half my time watching Prof and JPS in my mirrors, wondering who was going to come out of the corners first!


Good battle with Spanner and The Prof.

Yes your right Spanner, I missed my breaking mark on the back straight, not something I wanted to do with you all over me, then instead of trying to get back past Spanner it became a survival mission with The Prof, had to close the door on you a couple of times in the slow corners (not to harshly I hope) because by then my right front tyre was shot and almost down to the fabric. Good driving Spanner/The Prof 8)