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Our first Super Endurance event in GT3.

Practice 1:	19:20	(10 mins)	Note: early start time!
Qual 2:	19:30	(25 mins)
Race:	19:55	(130 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Zhuhai 2004
Race Start Time: 16:00 (the race will run through dusk and into evening)
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of two pit stops during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change your tyres. You cannot take either of your mandatory stops at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Championship standings can be found on the series page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=183&theme=3).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

fyi - The link takes me to the old season 7... not a big deal by any stretch  ;), but thought you might want to know.


Having only experienced the 1st 50 mins of the Monza Super endurance due to blowing my engine, I can't wait for this one. Also having put the time in for our Team Oldie Vertislow setup at Valencia (Mechanics working through he night), I can look forward to a much more relaxed build up this time.  :D


Go Team Oldie!

Well spotted - and now fixed.

Just done some laps here and what a beautiful race track. Lots of nice long straights and lots of nice tight corners. Just like a street circuit so my perfect track  ;D

Really looking forward to this.

With the long straights is it going to suit the under powered GT3's?

Probably not. You'll probably lose too much to be able to outbrake, and the hairpins require acceleration/power.
Furthermore, this is probably the most tyrefriendly track, so winning with tyremanagement isn't gonna work, probably.

The most important corner is the last one, very tricky one which can finish your race immediatly, but will also be the best area for overtaking (main straight).

I wonder if there is any chance of putting the start time back by maybe 20mins?

I know there was a vote for the last 130minute Super Enduro that moved it 40mins forward, but a few people missed out because of the large change & a few people made the start by the skin of their teeth.

Even though I made the last one myself, it's easier getting the thumb off the top of my head after 8pm.

I wonder if this one will be wet. Tonight's weather was thunderstorms and we've seen what the weather can be like in China this week!

I so hope so. That would be just amazing. Really really full on wet thunderstoms the lot. Bring it on :):)

Grrrrrr  >:(

 :D

On holiday for a week starting Sunday am!?  :'(
so will mis this one! 130mins..... sooooo jealous!  :'(

Oh Joy....it looks like this will be run during tropical storm Nuri  :o :laugh:

Well none of us can really complain about suddenly being surprised by the weather during the race now can we!

Will we see a dry part of the track?

Has the server been setup with the weather yet? Just been running in high 40's on a dry track!

Didn't have a chance to beat the record at Imola becuase it was so wet......and the Z needs it dry!

On the plus side - wet weather is great fun ;D

The server was set last night using data from 4pm yesterday afternoon in China. Gets warm there eh! :laugh:

Currently dry - 3 minutes of qually left!

Disco'd when we switched to warm up :taz:

Game crashed with few minutes of quali left, rejoined without time to do a lap. Race start was good fun, from 16th up to 7th I think, having a hard battle with Dave and H@L during the process :) and making contact with Boylan, sorry about that I didn't notice it :-[

Retired after half an hour lol

Me 2 Busi, although mine was due to my PC mysteriously just turning off  Huh
No idea what caused it, oh well. Race was fun with Mad Ripp. Had a gd tussle until I found a way past, then pulled a lead and was lucky at my stop after fumbling with the limiter. Nothing much going on, then the weird crash.

Enjoy the end lads.

PS: I had a mammoth lock up right behind Madd in the early laps, full lock up on at least 2 wheels for ages - so glad I just missed him (dunno how, it looked like I just tapped you from where I was). Phew!  :angel: :laugh:

Gutted!

Was enjoying that, but I really have no idea why my engine went? ??? Started ok, just keeping station with others fighting and falling off

I started at 94% and both oil and water temps were, at most, low 80's with a 2 rad setting. I was hitting the limiter at the end of the main straight and was nowhere near the red bars when changing down. But every lap it was dropping by one, then it suddenly dropped alot to  the it went bang.

Err sorry Pseudo, I guess you went off with the smoke?

FreQ: If that happens its normally got too hot and auto shut down.

I was having a superb race. Great battles with Prof and Dave. Managed to get up to 3rd with half an hour to go and then connection lost. No idea why as not really ever had that before. Would had probably finished 6th as well.

Really bloody annoyed as I was having a really enjoyable race.

Were you hitting the red on the straight, or orange max?

Nah it's not that. I have a air con unit right above it, my room was cold when it shut off! ;D

I was deep in the red with the light on to change gear. But i would have aleast expected the temps to rise.

That'll be it then. Check your ratios before you race ;D

Still trying to find a decent pace in the Lotus, not being able to change gear ratios is a pain ???

Good battle with Leggzy 8), did my two stops but mis calulated very slightly and was about to run out of fuel with about two laps to go forced to pit for a third time :o which allowed Leggzy to take me.

Some valuable lessons learnt ;).

LOL, no wonder it blew up :lol: . Never ever let the revs go into red at the straights. Every second it's in red, your engine dies a little inside ;D.
The reason why it's not overheating, is because of the speed cooling the engine as it goes. Max revs while stationary will give you some nice smoke effects ;D.

Nice race again  :)

Lots of fun battles with Dave, Busi and many more :) great driving guys, i think I may be getting a little better too. I did however seem to be braking earlier than most in some of the corners and this caught a few people out, sorry Psuedo and sorry Dave. Not sure what happened at that last one Dave, I would have waited but Im not sure if it was my fault or not. I slowed down a little to wait as I could not catch the guy in front and we were clear of the guy behind us but you seemed to have more problems. :(

I needed to use the bathroom so bad at the end of that I was shouting at my computer but it only made me slower.

Next time  :)

 :) Got a good quali lap in but knew the cars behind would get me eventually as to do those sort of times constantly in the Cup is risking it, and I wasn't wrong, completely forgot to open rads  ::) so the temps were 98 degrees nearly all race and I finished with 65% engine health, so for much of the race I had to nurse the car a bit, go faster, then ease off to cool it and so on all race.
But it was still a good one, an excellent scrap with Freq, Reign Man, TT and Picnic, I just couldn't go any quicker tbh, those Bemmers are damn quick on the exit of corners, likewise the 350Z, oh to have an adjustable front splitter!!  :D .

Grats to podium, gutted Ijust missed out.   :'(

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20080824%20U8LE/index.html)

Aye...I didn't hit the wall that hard thou  ::)...(guess who's on brewing and sweeping duties next race ;) :laugh:)

qually was ok...4/10ths off my pb..but managed 6th.

Followed RM and H@L in the BMW's and after last nights praccy, I knew I would have no probs sailing passed them on the straight....if I could be close enough off the last bend...so thought I would just play it calm for a few laps till tyres were up etc before making a move....Had TT's Vertigo hitching a ride in my boot a few times  :-*  but there was no way he could pass me on the apexes (not for the want of trying) and I just breezed away down the straights.
Then approaching the final hairpin lap 2 or 3 I think, I decided to close up a bit on H@L and set myself up for the pass down the main straight....I closed up alright :o....It looked like he had come to a virtual standstill and I had to slam on hard and swerve to miss him....right into a wall...(stupid place to leave a wall imo)

Anyway...enjoyed some battles at the back with a few vertigo's and JPS's elise...few hairy moments...but we all survived. Good stuff.

Grats to RM on the win  :clap: great effort in the beamer....grats to rest of podium too...

next time.

Great to see some Porsche's racing tonight also.

I didn't know that :whistling: I hit max almost every gear change


Great race with JPS. Some good close laps until I assume his 1st pit stop (I'm guessing you pitted early?), then it was a case of trying to keep the gap as large as possible. I pitted, JPS got ahead till I saw he pitted about 3 laps later. I still wasn't sure at that point if it was your 1st or 2nd stop. I had my 2nd stop with about 10 mins to go & got out the pits about seven seconds behind you! I tried to hard to make it up to quickly & span twice on that out lap   :cursing: allowing you what I assumed was an unassailable lead.

Was relieved to see you in the pits on my 2nd last lap. Assumed it was your 2nd stop, unlucky on the fuel front, but great racing for 130mins!!!

Well done to all who lasted to the end.

I'm knackered now.
:sleep1:

Erm, Reign Man for being too good for a Team Psuedo driver? :whistling: ;D
But yes, sorry boss, I was over cautious there :(

Well done Podium. Excellent work RM. ;)

LOL!


Team Pseudo Racing leads woooot!! :D

Didn't have much luck on quali, had 7th time at the end, though I decided to finish my race setup and up... the quali.  ;) Race is long and I can win or lose positions based on my race setup. Seems like I was lucky. Was braking so late that I thought I had the speed bug for a time.  :o  Everybody was faster on accelerating and by the time we were on the next corner I was half a second behind.  :(  I remember when I chased RM I just changed into 6th when he started braking.  ;D  As the only chance to get by was on braking I had some very close moments, had to swerve, fully lock, etc.

Had full tank on start meds in front and I think me and Prof were the last to pit the first time. Quite alone on the second stint and decided to change fronts to soft only on second pit-stop. Had to manualy change that and put fuel to 0. Forgot to leave rears on, though.  >:(  So I came out just behind RM, set to chase and promptly went into sand.  >:( >:( >:(  That was about 20 minutes 'till finish. Slowly closed the gap and got on his tail literally on the last lap. Made a mistake at braking into 1st corner, and RM went into the sand. Sorry, wasn't sure which line to take, there was still room on the inner side but while deciding you were already braking. BAM!  :(  Waited as we had enough time to the third. After RM passed I set to chase again, halfheartedly this time, feeling the guilt and happy at the same time for him to be able to go on. At the last corner I wasn't sure if we had contact when you went into the sand again, so...  You deserve the win, as you were very patient and fair when we had all those close laps.  :thumbup1:    

Sorry to Prof - we touched while I was lapping and you went into the sand. Not necessary - I was lapping you, was alongside, on the inner side of the corner. You would lose less time if you let me pass before that corner.  :-\   Not flaming - just a friendly advise.  :)
That contact was very friendly, Psuedo. I can slap you on the (_._) only during the race.  :-*

What happened to all the Legends ?  :(

TT

Too busy playing that other Legendary game maybe?

Np with the contact tt....the vipers a tough ol bird.  :)

Enjoyable race. The half full glass is pleased with eighth place. The half empty one sees third from last of the finishers - much more my usual form. Couldn't catch Ted at the end and had just enough time in hand to stay ahead of a rapidly catching Pseudo.

Thanks to Pseudo for waiting although there was really no need especially the second time.

TrueTom, I did not get the blue flag or auditory warning that you were lapping so thought we were racing for position. Probably better to lap on the nice long straight that followed the corner where you were in a blind spot. It is the duty of the person lapping to do it safely. Not flaming - just friendly advice  :laugh: No harm done really.

Well done to podium and especially Picnic for 3rd place.

@Prof: I have name tags switched on so I know who is where even if I don't get the blue flag. Glad you didn't suffer damage or lose too much time.  :)

Well that was a great race overall. Although I came first, I dont feel like I won that race, which is a real shame as the last lap was an anti-climax...what with the visit to the wall and all.  :-\

Set a PB in quali to get 5th place. Had a good start and got past my teammate H@l quite quickly, the top 3 pulled out a gap quickly from the start and I set about chasing them, they were all scrapping so I was able to close the gap,  minton made a mistake letting me by and just after this TT close the gap and tried to get past.

...It must have took him 15 mins at least  ;D he was so much better under braking it was stupid, your right H@l we were having to brake so much earlier than everone else, hopefully the next track wont have big stops like this one  ::)

We swapped places a few of times but he made one stick on the lap I went into the pits for my first stop.

From then on I wasnt that close to anyone so just tried to drive consistantly.

I took second place when FreQ's pc crashed,   :(  with TT in first 53 seconds up the road yet to make his last stop. Closed the gap to 47 secs when he pitted and came past him just as he was getting up to speed out of the pit lane, he made a mistake which gave me some breathing room.  he caught me with a couple of laps to go where we had a get together. that's where the race ended really he let me by but he got past me on the next corner, i tried to see if I could get him on the pit straight but my car wouldnt turn in and I drifted wide into the sand.  >:(

Situation was abit dangerous really with me having to brake so early and with the vertigos ability brake virtually on the corner, I did try to leave some room on both sides but I got a bit out of shape when I put the brakes on si I might have drifted a bit  ???

TT slowed right down so we kinda both drifted accross the line, not the way I wanted to cross the line but ill take it  :-\

Hopefully I'll get a proper win at some point, really enjoying the GT3's this season!!  ;D

Roll on the next race !  :fencing:

RM

That was really enjoyable - very pleased to have got to the finish, maintaining a fairly consistent pace right to the end.

There was some good racing in the early stages with a group of 3 or 4 cars, before the field started to string itself out. I got a bit of help early on when the 2 cars I was following (Prof/Psuedo) had a bit of a tangle and I was able to sail through the middle which was nice, but after that things got a bit lonley.

Thank you to JPS for your help letting me lap you (and relap you after I fell off the first time :-[), you were very patient as my underpowered car struggled on the straights.  The last part of the race was a case of trying to keep a few seconds between myself and Prof - I was able to do this, but it required every ounce of my sapping concentration.

Also loved the transition from afternoon to dusk - first time I've seen this in GTR2, very atmospheric.

Must restrict fluid intake before the next race (or get a catheter fitted)  8)

What was all that talk about the storm in China? Developed a setup, siutable for dry and wet. A compromise has slowed me down a bit as I had more wing than I would have in dry race.  ::)

@RM: I don't want a win if it's not as clear as tear (or is it gold?  ;) ). You earned it. There's more to winning in a friendly community than pushy driving comming first over the big line.  :)

Despite DG's sabotages  :P Vert is still a very enjoyable car, even if it is the slowest on acceleration and straights. Braking so much later than others was scary. Suzuka should show this differecies even more.  :-\ 

TT

We were braking very differently in different corners - some I was much better and others you had the advantage. My tyres had just reached wear 10 and I was having to try and save fuel after my first stop turned out to be about 2 laps too early - didn't take a splash at the second stop and it looked like the right move putting back into a fight with Michael Boylan, but 15 minutes from the end it was obvious that I wasn't going to make it. After you dive bombed me into 7 I thought I could get you back on the exit of 9/10 but you broke about 20 metres ahead of where I expected :o and I had to throw it off in avoidance (got a cut warning for my troubles too! ::) ).

As it happens you were bound to get the place anyway as I was starting to splutter - the last drop of fuel ran out the very moment I crossed the line, having crawled round the final lap desperately trying to stroke it home for at least 6th. Annoying that as if I'd stopped 2 or 3 laps later I'd have been fine and finished 5th, which would've been enough for the Shark's to keep the lead in the team championship.

Enjoyed watching the sun go down - very atmospheric with the sky turning that dark blue shade of evening. 8)

Quite enjoyed that, had been away for the weekend and got back 20 mins before the race off and decided to watch the first few laps of the F1 race rather than practice  :-[ Actually quite glad I did as having spent almost 2 hours in the real car before this my back was giving me quite some grief. No practice and no real setup I was happy to qualify above my teammates other than the alien one ;)

Race was then pretty consistent, I decided to run a long first stint so only one stop for fuel was required. As the race went on and I re-acquainted myself with the circuit I got a little quicker and after my second stop found I had managed to jump Madd and was 3rd. Sadly Evert blew his engine just in front of me, bit reminiscent of Kimi's effort ;) Trouble was whole track for me was covered for the run up to the hairpin, I missed my braking point and MR was through. Although initially I really struggled to keep the gap around 1-2 secs eventually I got close again and the pressure, and I guess MR saving engine health, led to a small mistake and I was back through. Happily keeping the 3rd until the end.

Back luck Freq, well done to everyone who made it to the end. Hard work these but often rewarding at the end. I still can't believe that after 2+ hours racing the gaps can still be in the single second bracket, but they often are :)

English lesson, please (I'm always eager to learn)  :)  : concerning usage of braking - shouldn't it be "... you started braking 20 metres ahead..." ?  Hope you're not considering it on a negative side - I'm not a native English speaker and I'd really like to learn the correct phrase.  :)

Other Legends help me on our forum and I think I improved my English, though for a price of them being a bit fed up teaching me, I think.  ;D

TT

I don't think you want your english lessons from an English person ;). That way you'll be talking Gibbrish in no time ;D.

Yes - or simply "braked". I was so shocked at the sight of the BMW's bum heading for me at high speed I lost the ability to spel corektlee.

 ;D

Ok, thanks.  :)

 :oops:

Because of all the thunderstorm predicions, only one dry ~7 lap practice session and since I just last Sunday took a server spot from someone who, unlike me, actually likes the rain, I decided to give this a pass.

But I now see the server wasn't full, and it didn't even rain. Stoopid of me to assume instead of checking the situation I guess.  :-[

Missed out on a good race I think.

Well, I'll try to be there for Suzuka, in the Porsche I think. Or maybe Z3M....Or maybe even Elise. Hmmm. Prolly the porker though.

Just watched the replay, don't really understand why TT gave up the win. His move round the outside was nice ;D

The incident at the end of the straight looked like a 50/50. TT misjudged the braking and RM was driving down the middle of the track, which usually leads to problems.

No worries Ted 8)