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NGT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7 at Anderstorp

Date: Tuesday 23rd August

Practice 1: 8:45pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 9:00pm (15 mins)
Warmup: 9:15pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:17pm (30 mins)

Cars allowed: Any NGT car or 911 Bi-Turbo or Mosler or Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)

Notes:
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(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules)

Looking forward to this one tonight, one of my favourite tracks  :).

Qualifying's gonna be key, not easy to pass here.

Pops.

LOL. I thought the opposite. This is one of the best overtaking circuits on the calendar. Lots of fast straights into 90 degree corners. Loads of run off mostly, very good vision to see people attempting moves and no tyres sitting in the middle of the track :). It's all about getting the run on the corner before and passing down the straight.

The biggest thing I've seen wrong with people's races at Anderstorp is forgetting to brake early on lap 1 (me included) at the end of the main straight. Seen it more times than anywhere I reckon, people just going straight into the kitty litter cause that straight is long enough to take any of the heat you generated from the warmup lap in the brakes back out again.

good, because i always brake too early on t1 !

im back now, so i should be racing today :)

Haha! That's why you are at the top end of the table Shark! I probably shouldn't comment on things I know nothing about, i.e. overtaking!  ;)

My comments were based on racing against the AI, overtaking seemed much trickier here than other circuits, I found it much more difficult to get a decent run out of the corners. I'm not too slow round Anderstorp either. Maybe it's a mid-pack thing...

Pops.

 8)

BTW, saw your new 911 car skins. Like them. Very stylish. Nice and simple they look good, not too much clutter and a nice clear design which is distinctive.

Any chance you wanna be a top bloke and create a new Team Shark logo as the one I've been using on the Team Shark cars is rubbish?

PaulW's the NGT Legends 'crayon monkey'.

I'm just the button pusher :)

Might join in for this one if there is room. Gave the 360 a quick try around here yesterday and found it quite predictable for a change.

Maybe if hardware holds out, you'll all be seeing a rather 'distinctive' car on the track for an N-GT race. A fun race should be a good hint, hehe! :D

T

Tyf, you're definately gonna ditch the Bi-T? It's the end of an era.... :'(

Yeh, maybe it will be back in the last race of the season or so. But it's really so hard to drive and I'm not getting any better at making a good setup for it or I'm driving it harder, hehe! You're welcome to give it a try though ;) It's fast on the straight(s)! :P

I'll do some test runs now and see which one of the 'add on' N-GT's is quickest for me! Maybe that will give a surprise for this evening :D!

T

I'll think about it.... NO!  ;D

Can't wait to see what you come up with instead, I take it you aren't considering the 360 or the GT3?

i might have a crack in the old bi-t. dont really have much to loose :P

The Morgan I found surprisingly well mannered around Ander. It's bouncy wooden leaf spring suspension lets it down in the last left before the final long right hander though no matter how much linseed oil or lavender scented Pledge you apply to them!

I'm GT3'ing it tonight but not looking forward to it much. A 1:32 is the best I can do and thats hardly consistently. I seem to find it hard to be consistent here and will be just trying to finish without too many mistakes I think!

Not looking forward to this one myself. Even with some recent practice still find this track hard and need 100% concentration all the way round, have to be so accurate at every corner.. I'am with PaulW on this one, just going to try to bring it home.
Wish me luck.
Don.

it looks like a simple circuit, but i am also in the camp of it will be a tricky race

You're all a bunch of sissies!

Just watch me go into corner #1 first! See me crash hard into that barrier there and start laughing so hard, you'll all be crashing at corner #2 and/or #3 :P :D

T

Even for you that was a good one Tyf!  ;D

Got stuck on a st00pid curb!  >:( ??? >:( ??? >:(

good race .huge pileup on formation lap , then on 3 lap behind a porsche looking to a good battle when he suddenly moved because of a slow car on the racing line no were to go and hit it.better luck next time hopefully.

My luck ran out tonight. Began well until someone, bernie I think, was struck by 1fps on straight and in rush to avoid his stationary car I went onto to the grass. Then coming through field I was involved in a couple incidents that I was at least partly responsible for and will no doubt be fairly punished. Sorry to those I buggered up.  

Seems I messed up, both in the race and with the server. There is no replay sorry chaps  :-[

You must have found just the right combination of pledge and lynseed oil. Congrats on your 2nd place.  :)

Really enjoyed that, although it was a bit tense with TYF pushing me all the way. Qualified on a race setup and was pleased with 11th on the grid. Worked my way up to 4th, although I didn't actually pass anyone in anger. There were a lot of retirements unfortunately. Someone had the 1 fps bug near the start, and I think Paul968 had framerate problems again.

Good morale booster for me to actually finish with a consistant drive, no offs this time. Now I just need to stop rubbernecking when people go off in front of me and I'll finish a few more.  :)

I got rear ended in the formation lap pile up, resulting in a bloody rear tyre puncture. Had to limp round to the pits and by the time I got out on the track I only got 1 clear lap before I was being lapped by the leaders :-( Still I drove like a complete lunatic and made up places, finally finishing 11th I believe so fairly pleased with that.

Did anyone get a client replay? Sounds like we may need one for moderation purposes. :o

Qualified in 2nd, not bad, I had been fiddling with setup all evening and finally I found something I was happy with that felt driveable and not too shabby on pace. Felt confident for a definate podium as my race pace was not much short of qually pace.

As usual Matjaz pulled away slowly but surely from start (last part of pace lap was a little slow? wondered if you'd forgotten where right hand pedal was ;)). I was pulling away from Bernie reasonably quickly, but he soon dissapeared from behind me to be replaced by Paul H. He caught me suprisingly quickly belying his qualifying time and he sat on my tail for about 10 mins as I tried to make sure he didn't get my slip stream with some interesting lines down the main straight ;D. However, it started to become clear though that Paul was finding it hard to find anywhere he felt confident about going for an outbrake maneover even though he was clearly faster than me.

Eventually Paul made a mistake into the corner at the end of the main straight locking all 4 wheels by the looks of the smoke in my mirrors. That gave me a nice gap of about 13 seconds which went up a bit a couple of laps later to 15, 16 seconds, I'm guessing when Paul lost it again?? and was replaced by PaulW.

Phew I thought I can just go fairly easy to finish. Nope. I did exactly what Paul H did before me with about 7 mins to go? and locked them all up after as-here had let me past on the main straight, off I went into the sand. Thank god it's such a big run off as I hit nothing and manage to get out of the sand suprisingly easily and end up about 4 or 5 secs ahead of PaulW. Gheeesh! I nearly threw away my first NGT Sprint win, but managed to hang on pulling away a little towards the end.

The speed of everyone was very impressive. Good race.

Bugger!!!! thought I'd saved a replay, but it appears I didn't  >:(

Qualifying - disastrous. Frame rate said 28 when it felt more like 8. Not sure what this means but it was almost undriveable at times. Managed 4th on the grid, but I've had low 30s offline so was a bit disappointed.

Race part 1 - Excellent. Followed Bernie for a few laps, trying hard to settle in gradually after the 1st lap mishaps recently. Then he froze mid straight, I ran right through him and was luckily OK, and I was 3rd. Chased down Simon and was soon right behind. We then had another of our battles, with me looking everywhere but with no joy. Simon looked a little ragged at times but always kept it on the road, so there was no way past. This went on for quite a while until on the approach to t2 I changed down one too many gears and spun into the gravel.

Race part 2 - Over-ambitious.  Rejoined ok with Simon long gone but my brain was still thinking chase. Tried too hard, went off and lost the place to Paul W. Then tried a bit too hard to catch him and lost another place to Mike. Had several laps chasing Mike and got very close - too close in the end because I got caught out under braking and taps his rear, which he survived but sent me wide off track. Got back on, aagramn passed me but let me back in front next straight (?) and then I lost it at T1. At this point I'd had enough and quit.

Really enjoyed the first half, but I have to agree with whoever said its hard to overtake. There is nowhere if the driver ahead makes no big mistakes, partly because the long staright comes after 2 corners you cannot commit hard to and have to wait for the car in front to go(especially the hairpin). Fed up again that I got too greedy, but I'm there for the racing more than points.

Sorry to Mike for the tap, but without commiting in some way it would have been a procession.

Paul

Yeah, I got one which can be uploaded if someone can PM me some instructions.

Well a mixed race.
Again qualified well below my pb, really dont know whats going on here.
All was going well, gradually picking up places as guys dropped out.
Then disaster, for which I feel dreadful about.  Having a duel for a couple of laps with one of the chaps, on the second lap(of duel) we are neck and neck down the fast straight, I decide to let him thro and brake slightly early, at this point the car hits a bumb and lurches to the right a little, nudging the porsche and knocking him off.  End of race for porsche driver, really really sorry mate, there was nothing I could do about it.  If there was anything I could have done to avoid the accident I would have.

Think that may have been picnic, I was right behind you two

Shame that happened Greg I was enjoying the tussel. I watched my client replay and couldn't understand quite what happened. I must say though I hadn't left you much room to get out of shape. I too dived on the brakes a little early, was worried about the extra speed I was carrying after the tow down the runway!

Cheers Picnic

Well, that went better than I thought :)

Qualified with a race setup because of lack of practice and set out to just keep it on the track.  Lost places to Trutom and Tyf on the opening lap, picked up places as others fell off and tried to keep some pressure on Tyf.  I was pushing hard now and Tyf finally looped it out of one of the banked turns, I only just squeaked by  :o

Tried to close the gap to Trutom and I was closing when he spun entering the same turn that had bitten Tyf.  Now I was chasing 3rd place and the gap was gradually closing, caught up to Paul968 and passed him when he dropped it into the gravel at the end of the straight.  He fought back hard but slithered of the track again later.  Now I was chasing 2nd place!  PaulW was pedalling fast but I was closing in, on the last lap, we had 2 backmarkers to get round and then Paul ran off the road at the last turn!!!!!  Turned inside and floored it but he just managed to get to the line first :)

Good race guys !

Oh, and I have a client replay :)  let me know where to send it if it helps!

Just me being very cautious, as my record of finishing races is dreadful so far this season. Looked at the clock and decided I was unlikely to hold you back until the end, and I was more likely fly off the track if I was watching my mirrors.

Have we got a replay yet? Interested to see what actualy happened on the formation lap

Blimey, there must have been a glitch in the Matrix tonight because I've no idea how I finished where I did  ;)

Managed a couple of 1:31's offline but really I felt they were blips rather than anything I could sustain. Wasn't sure about the tyres so I drove most of the practice on my race set-up to check temps and was surprised to find I'd got a 1:32 with it. Q2 I made a bit of a mess of and managed to "say hello" to a couple of cars that had slid out in front of me but managed a 1:32 dead for 6th I think.

Race started and I kind of managed to hang on to the train at the front of the pack. I was loosing a few 10ths every lap but driving within myself in the 32's and everythign felt pretty good. Come traffic I did my usual monkey style moves and lost a lot of time compared to the ninja overtaking at the front. I lack practice so, sorry , to anyone I freaked out! Quite a few people were moving off the racing line still making things unpredictable (I thought we agreed we'd stay online and lift so people could pass?). About 2/3's in I came across Paul968 after a spin and tailed behind for a while- I could see you were really stuggling witht the fps there in the corners  :( Gave you a healthy amount of space I hope but when you span I couldn't quite believe I was in 2nd and nearly did the same  :o A few laps on, came across Shark after a spin and thought all my birthdays had come at once but he managed a solid save and got back out in front of me, eeking out a little gap each lap.

Right toward the end I could see Mike catching me each lap but, with the time left, I wasn't pushing too hard and felt I could respond if need be to hold him off. We continued passing traffic as we went and then, right at the very end, on the final two corners a 360 looked like it was going to let me pass but then pulled back on to the racing line to make the corner (fair enough!), I slid the tyres and the heartrate nearly hit the roof as Mike closed right in for the final long right. The 360 moved over for the very last left but it meant Mike exited the corner so close to me it was pretty much neck and neck. I wasn't sure if there would be one more lap or not, so moved over to the racing line and also executed my one good block (hopefully fairly Mike but I think there was some contact side to side  :(, sorry, not sure what is fair here as I'm rarely in that position!). Thankfully it was race over and, bloody hell, I got 2nd by 0.2 of a second :o

I think I know what happened on the formation lap....

There was some REALLY heavy braking on one of the straights, I had to brake hard and someone went into the back of me I think causing a pile-up...

[EDIT for clarity] Not sure there was much could have been done to avoid me.

Pops.

Yep, gutted mate, truley gutted.  I can only put it down to braking early to let you thro, caught a bump and the car just lurched to the right, really was nothing I could do about it.
Supose its just one of those racing incident things, certainly no malice intended.

Hmmmmm whoever it was then cost me a huge amount of time through having to pit, mind you it focused my mind on the race tonight and I feel pretty happy with the way I drove.

I'm wondering why there was such heavy braking in front, we were close to the start of the straight  ???

If anyone else has a client replay can you PM me please. For some reason mine doesn't show the formation lap.

Mine doesn't show formation lap either :(

That was just about the most eventful race I've taken part in!

Qualifying was once again horrible for me, it's my biggest weakness and definately something to work on (though I'm not sure how!). Ended up in 14th.

Was right in the middle of the parade lap pile-up, only the replay will sort that out.

Managed a really stupid spin on lap 2, lost about 20s waiting to re-join and ended up in 18th. I have to admit my finger edged toward the 'Esc' key at that point but decided better of it!  ;)

It was a new experience for me moving up the field, gradually picking up places, pretty good practice I guess. I drove pretty well, picking up quite a few 1:33 laps.

Mixed feelings really; happy (and feels somewhat undeserved) to finish 7th but disappointed about my spin, an opportunity to finish a bit closer lost.

Pops.

Any news on whether we have a full replay?

If not, could we possibly have the partial replay to download?

Pops.

Aagramn is going to try to upload his client replay tonight. None of the "full" client replays appear to show the pace lap, so Picnic is going to check his (which ends early) to see if it does.

Thanks Dave.  :)

That was me in the porsche that had to swerve to take evasive action, saw that you hit it head on bad luck nothing you could have done.
Don.

[Edited by the society for proper quoting.]

was having graphic problems, (fixed now) so it was not sensible to race

hit an F360 in quali, my fault driving too fast too close and smack really really sorry :-((((

I've got my client replay uploaded now, unfortunately it doesn't show the formation lap and no-one seems to have a copy which does. If you have any incidents to report please use the times in this replay so the mods can find them. On the plus side, enjoy the novelty of having wheels on the cars.

Hi Guys some one piled into me going into the home straight corner and ended my race . That was after picking up several places carfully .I am sorry if it was an attempt top lap me but I was badly held up at the start and the leaders were half a lap ahead by the time the mid and rear of the field got going.kindest regards gerald

Don't forget that if you want any incidents reviewed you should submit them as per the rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules#incidents).

Lol well that narrows it down to the last 25 ;D