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Title: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 18, 2005, 10:07:31 AM +0100
GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7 at Anderstorp

Date: Wednesday 24th August

Practice 1: 8:45pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 9:00pm (15 mins)
Warmup: 9:15pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:17pm (30 mins)

Cars allowed: Any GT car or Corvette or Viper G2. (Seat Toledo is allowed but will not score points.)

Notes:
(1) Please try to arrive 15 minutes early during Practice 1.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for each championship. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Season 1 Info (http://www.ukgtr.org/lm2-report.php?group=1&content=series103) for general Season 1 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Woodee on August 18, 2005, 11:51:58 AM +0100
are these races always dry weather? Or are they set to random?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: popabawa on August 18, 2005, 11:55:00 AM +0100
Sprints are always dry.

Endurance are random-ish ;)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Woodee on August 18, 2005, 12:16:12 PM +0100
is the weather simulation any good? Rain stops and starts? Rains on different parts of the circuit?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: fozzmeister on August 18, 2005, 12:20:28 PM +0100
In endurance its possible. The dice has a "Season" number. which could stop mid race. Other than that, its only "dry", "rain", "monsoon" etc. so you have to assume, it'll just rain, whole circuit, whole time.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 18, 2005, 02:09:32 PM +0100
There was a "changeable" option for the weather, but Simbin in all their wisdom decided to take it out in 1.4 of GTR.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: fozzmeister on August 18, 2005, 03:26:46 PM +0100
There was a "changeable" option for the weather, but Simbin in all their wisdom decided to take it out in 1.4 of GTR.

Interesting, was it a non-crazy version of Random?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 18, 2005, 05:34:02 PM +0100
Interesting, was it a non-crazy version of Random?

Yeah, it was really good. No idea why they removed it as it was brilliant.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: picnic on August 18, 2005, 05:44:51 PM +0100
It was a feature that was good and worked, because of their product ethos they HAD to remove it  :'(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: [ZiP]Tyf on August 18, 2005, 06:17:54 PM +0100
It was a feature that was good and worked, because of their product ethos they HAD to remove it  :'(

Lmao!  ;D

T

P.S. I'm really going to wait with this company for others to check out GTL ;) :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: FlyBri on August 19, 2005, 07:58:39 PM +0100
It was a feature that was good and worked, because of their product ethos they HAD to remove it  :'(

Lmao!  ;D

T

P.S. I'm really going to wait with this company for others to check out GTL ;) :D

With regards to GTL are we going to see a split in the league with some people playing GTR and others playing GTL? Is this the end of GTR? I dont like old cars like the e type jag etc, give me a ferrari 550GT anyday !!  ;)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 19, 2005, 08:12:33 PM +0100
Play it by ear FlyBri.

Remember GTL isn't out till October at the earliest.

When GTR came out last November I gave up GPL straight away but then GPL was long in the tooth whereas GTR isn't yet so we might well still being playing GTR as well.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Mark Harrison on August 24, 2005, 09:43:52 PM +0100
Oh dear, that was stoopid.  Was distracted for a moment as I couldn't see Jamera's car - and went off at Turn 4.  Race over, as I was stuck in the gravel = 0 points.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: harv_gtr on August 24, 2005, 09:44:10 PM +0100
weeee  ::)

apologies for frightening the life out of the lister driver in p2 on about lap 3... i got punted off by a saleen and had a puncture and no splitter and so was crawling around a whole lap to the pits (then i saw another group coming up fast and did the honourable thing instead  :-[)

cheers all, you guys rule - even if you do mostly drive the same car  ;)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Truetom on August 24, 2005, 09:46:05 PM +0100
Comp works fine. It was a game that s.....d me up this time!  >:(

"Sorry, but GTR.exe had to terminate due to some error... Do you want to send a report?"

"Hell, YES!" But to whom? Sunny management?

rFactor rules! (I hope)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 24, 2005, 09:49:08 PM +0100
Qualified 2nd with as good a time as I have had, thought I might snatch pole with my last lap but just lost 2 tenths at the end of the lap somewhere.

Somehow I forgot to switch out of qualifying mode when I started the race. Tried to drive the car as fast as qualifying and locked up heavily into T2, was pretty ragged trying to keep up with the flying Mark. Then made the same mistake lap 2 whilst still going faster than the car wanted which let JonM through.

After that steady in 3rd was slightly slower than JonM so had given up on 2nd hoping for a mistake from those ahead, till about 13 mins to go and found JonM had made an error out of final turn and I was only 1 sec behind him. Then 2 laps later came across a stationary yellow Saleen right on racing line into T2 saw JonM swerve round to avoid and go off to the left of T2 missing the tyres but I guess if he continued he lost at least 30 seconds? Unfortunately I clipped the stationary Saleen lost control and ploughed head first into tyre wall killing my engine. End of race.

Think it was TrueTom's Saleen succumbing to the 1 fps bug. Stupid fooking game. Not much TrueTom JonM or myself could do about that. Stoopid fooking game.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Aagramn on August 24, 2005, 10:08:18 PM +0100
Very good race for me, sorry to hear people had problems. Qualified 9th on med tyres, TrueTom got a good run out of T1 and outbraked me into T2 on the first lap with a good clean move. Had an interesting 3 way scrap with Smoothy & Tom for about half the race, most of the time we were all within a second on the track. I was a bit slow through the last corner, so was never able to get close enough at the end of the straight to attempt a pass. Unfortunately Tom had the 1 fps problem, scaring the hell out of me as I zoomed towards a stationary yellow Saleen and passing straight through without contact. Caught up with Smoothy and followed him closely, without quite being able to get close enough. We picked up positions as other drivers retired until we were 4th and 5th. Towards the end we were caught by a recovering JonM. I held him up for a lap or two until he got a much better run out of a corner and passed me. Then Jon got past Smoothy on the last lap. There was about a second seperating 4th, 5th & 6th as we crossed the line.

Great fun, and I'm pleased to be getting some race finishes at last.  :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Aagramn on August 24, 2005, 10:10:10 PM +0100
It was a feature that was good and worked, because of their product ethos they HAD to remove it  :'(

 :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Jamera on August 24, 2005, 10:17:00 PM +0100
Well that was interesting, joined in the CR5 for practise, which was interesting as ALL my practise had been in the 360 for last nights race  :( Found I was waaaaaay off the pace so rejoined and thought for a change I'd give the lambo a try using Shark's setup. Qually I did pretty well considering I've only driven the Lambo twice before months ago.

Got into the race and felt fairly comfortable until I span on the exit of turn 4 on lap 1 or 2 resulting in me being at the back of the grid someway down on time. Thought "ahh well nothing to lose now" and proceded to drive like a man possesed. Fought my way back up to 11th place chasing Tyf who was about 15 secs ahead of me. Noticed he was dropping time rapidly and guessed he must have had an off and continued to close til the gap was 4 secs, thought " yes, this is it catch him, pass him I'm in the points" unfortunately in my excitement I squeezed a little too hard on the throttle at turn 6, spining on the grass. To add insult to injury SBG and the est of the leaders appeared round turn 6 to lap me, just 2 laps off the end of the race and what would have been my first without being lapped >:(



Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: JonM_uk on August 24, 2005, 10:17:11 PM +0100
Had a good quali finishing in 3rd behind Mark and Shark  :)
The race was great and crap for me. Started off following mark and shark but  shark ran wide and let me through, I just followed mark for a while until I came into the last bend and tried to get the power down to early and spun  :( Then had a couple of laps with shark behind us. Then came the frozen saleen, think it was truetom. I just skimmed him and luckily got sent the good side of the tyre wall, took about a kilometer so slow down though :o  but I was just glad to be still in the race after seeing shark get the rough end of the stick. After that I had  a chase on with Aagramn and smoothy, Had great fun battling with them and just sneaked it on the last lap with all of us close together, It was touch and go with my worn tyres but I was still able to brake quite late and hold a decent line.
Grats to Ginsters on his Victory  ;D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Woodee on August 24, 2005, 10:25:43 PM +0100
i've said it once...and i'll say it again....i'm s**t at this game!!!!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Jamera on August 24, 2005, 10:30:38 PM +0100
i've said it once...and i'll say it again....i'm shit at this game!!!!

I was having a hell of a job closing you down


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: greg130 on August 24, 2005, 10:31:12 PM +0100
Well what a race.
Qualified 7th with a resonable time for a change.
Onto the race, followed Blaz and SBG round for ages, dont think we were ever more than 3 secs apart for the whole race.
About halfway thro Blaz made a small mistake and I was past on the main straight.
So i'm now up to 5th, having gained a place somewhere along the way with a casualty falling off somewhere.
Before I know it I'm in 2nd, this cant be right I think, gtr having a wobbly again ?
As it turns out 1st thro 3rd were involved in incidents, the latter 2 with truetoms 1fps event.
So its time to try and catch SBG, try as I might I cant close the gap to less than 1.5 secs.
Pushing a little to hard sees me run a little wide at T1 and Blaz nips thro, oh well I think, 3rd would be a good result.
Anyway on we go and this time Blaz makes a small error and I'm back up to 2nd.
One lap to go, can I hold on, well no.  
Following some great driving by Blaz again he nips thro and i'm back down to 3rd, which is where I finish.

A total of 1.1 secs seperated the top 3 after a fantastic race.
Blaz and I swapped places a total of 4 times, all at speed and without contact, unbelivable, thats the way racing should be.  
When you consider we were racing for 2nd and 3rd with SBG only 1.5 secs ahead in 1st its amazing really.

Obviously I didnt really deserve 3rd what with the 1 fps incident taking 2 guys out.

Grats to SBG for a great win and big thanks to Blaz for a great battle.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Woodee on August 24, 2005, 10:32:20 PM +0100
i've said it once...and i'll say it again....i'm shit at this game!!!!

I was having a hell of a job closing you down

yeah right!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Aagramn on August 24, 2005, 10:43:40 PM +0100
Fought my way back up to 11th place chasing Tyf who was about 15 secs ahead of me. Noticed he was dropping time rapidly and guessed he must have had an off and continued to close til the gap was 4 secs, thought " yes, this is it catch him, pass him I'm in the points"...

The points go all the way down to 14th place.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Woodee on August 24, 2005, 10:48:00 PM +0100
wow...i get a point!!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 24, 2005, 11:01:09 PM +0100
Replay and exports uploaded here (http://replay.ukgtr.org/Anderstorp%20GT-Sprint%20240805.zip)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: ginsters sponsored on August 24, 2005, 11:08:13 PM +0100
What a difference a day makes! Last night I had a mare but tonight I had all the luck in the world.

In quali I kept spinning on out lap and was fast running out of time. Luckily this meant that most others had already given it a go
and I was left with a free run. I put in a good run, for me, and was delighted with fourth on grid. Well behind the really fast guys but just leading the five or six of us in second tier.

From last night, I knew how hard its is to overtake at anders so I knew I had a pretty strong position and was determined not to give it away. It was almost taken from me when locutus misjudged the deadly t2 and skidded across track in front of me (looked like your quick thinking saved me). First 5 or 6 laps came under real pressure from blaz but held him off by carefully avoiding silly mistakes. Considering how many mistakes I made in the slipstream here last night, it was thanks to his dilligence we had a good/fair battle. It was not until he made a slight error that I could relax and drive a little less defensively.

I thought, great a fourth will do me fine and then bugger me if the three guys some 10 seconds ahead all ran into trouble in what seemed the same lap. Surreal time now as I slowed not wanting to throw away a lead and those behind did not really gain. Perhaps they were as happy as I was with their placings? Just very nervous 7 or 8 laps to finish (nerves not helped by coming across tyf on last lap clearly struggling with tyres, I know you were being careful but nerves were shot by then  :-[) and I bagged pretty lucky win. But who cares, I'm chuffed ;D
              
(Just read that blaz and greg were to busy fighting each other to catch me. Even more good luck.)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Aagramn on August 24, 2005, 11:23:28 PM +0100
Congratulations on your first sprint win Ginsters.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Truetom on August 24, 2005, 11:43:27 PM +0100
Sorry to all who had trouble 'cause of my stationary car. Is this called 1 fps bug? I think not, I wasn't able to rejoin, had ctd but only after some time when the game was totaly frozen, no command responded, black screen. It's allways hard to finish like this, but even more if others were involved in an accidental software error. Game development didn't get that far yet, I guess.

Before that s..t we had a really good threesome(!) drive with Smoothy and Aagramn. We were roughly equal and the one that makes a mistake... Game chose the 4th possibility, lol / grrrrrrrrr. On to next race. 


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 24, 2005, 11:54:26 PM +0100
No yours sounds like a simple crash. The 1 fps is completely different.

Not to worry, we all know the game's problems and we have to live with it, although doesn't stop us being annoyed when great racing is spoiled by buggy software. Can't say I haven't had me monies worth with GTR and it wont stop me playing it (only GTL and rFactor will do that).


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Mark Harrison on August 25, 2005, 12:31:08 AM +0100
Had a splitting headache all night (still have now in fact) so probably shouldn't have raced.  But decided to anyway.

Had done plenty of practice, culminating in a 25.7 on medium tyres and race fuel, so I was pretty confident.  Qualifying saw a relatively clean run for once, and my first pole position for ages, 3 tenths off my PB though.

Race started, and Shark nearly drilled me into T2 - I had to come off the brakes to prevent him hitting me.  Sorry if I braked a bit early.  A lap later, Jon got past, and was right on me.  Had a struggle getting past a backmarker, and after that we were together.  Then Jon spun.

2 laps later though, I found I couldn't see Jamera, in much the same way I couldn't see Tyf at Barcelona (when I ended up hitting him).  It definitely wasn't the number of cars displayed this time, that was at 24.  Just a bug.  Was trying to decide the safest way to pass when for some reason (I think I braked late) I washed out with understeer at 4, spinning into the gravel.  Couldn't get out again, and 50 certain points were down the drain.  Headache now worse than ever, I went to bed for a couple of hours.

Was totally my own fault, I don't normally make mistakes like that, but I was really beginning to struggle with my concentration, having pushed hard the first few laps.  With such a headache, it's nearly impossible to concentrate for long periods.

Once again my championship chances are in big, big trouble.  I'm now relying on mistakes from Jon :(

Well done SBG, great result for you and the team :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: [ZiP]Tyf on August 25, 2005, 02:28:29 AM +0100
Sorry to hear that Mark, maybe it's ze Penguins prezzure ;)!

(nerves not helped by coming across tyf on last lap clearly struggling with tyres, I know you were being careful but nerves were shot by then   :-[)
Haha! I can imagine m8. Been leading a couple of fun races myself and noticed a HUGE difference in nerves then and where I'm usually driving ;) :D.
My tyres were gone in the end (Lambo) but I always try to keep an eye on what's behind me as well as in front and had seen the leaders closing in on me after my 3rd spin. So I tried to stay ahead and not get lapped :D which worked in the end. Would have spun off if necessary for not hitting #1-#3 spots though at the end of a race. My 10th not being that important to me! :D

T


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Andy Charman on August 25, 2005, 08:59:11 AM +0100
Well that was my GT Sprint race and it wasn't good! :'(
Had bad frame rate in qual and couldn't get a clean lap in. Just when I did finallt do a clean fast lap I came out of the last bend and the session ended before I managed to cross the finish line!! So started last.
Just thought I would poodle round at the back and wait for people to crash and sure enough I was soon up from 24th to 15th. Then for some reason the game froze and crashed to desktop. Gutted.
Never happened before to me. Not sure if it was a bad connection due to the weather or if the game overheated?
Oh well I really enjoyed the race even if it was over a bit too quickly. :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Simon Gymer on August 25, 2005, 09:08:50 AM +0100
Race started, and Shark nearly drilled me into T2 - I had to come off the brakes to prevent him hitting me.  Sorry if I braked a bit early.  A lap later, Jon got past, and was right on me.  Had a struggle getting past a backmarker, and after that we were together.  Then Jon spun.

Yeah my fault that one, thankfully just had enough stopping power to avoid it. As I said I was still in qual mode and it really didn't want to brake as late as I was attempting. Braking point was partially unsighted because of your car ahead but that is no excuse. Good driving.

My problem seems to be that you and Jon can run at nigh on qualifying speed in the race and I can't. My qualifying speed is a second faster than race and I just can't go as fast as you 2 and I end up trying too hard when the car simply has no more speed in it.

Once again my championship chances are in big, big trouble.  I'm now relying on mistakes from Jon :(

Yep, looks like JonM has wrapped up championship bar any major incidents or missed races for him. Gingster has joined the battle for 2nd though so has made it a bit more interesting.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Mark Harrison on August 25, 2005, 12:50:21 PM +0100
My problem seems to be that you and Jon can run at nigh on qualifying speed in the race and I can't. My qualifying speed is a second faster than race and I just can't go as fast as you 2 and I end up trying too hard when the car simply has no more speed in it.

Yeah, I think that's one of the big advantages of the Lister.  Not only that, but you can push hard enough on mediums and the tyres will last too.  I don't know what the Lambo's like, but as I remember it's not as stable as the Lister on a race setup.  Added to the fact that I normally hotlap on race setups anyway, so I'd done plenty of practice with it - my race PB was only 6 tenths slower than my qualifying PB.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: [ZiP]Tyf on August 25, 2005, 02:41:35 PM +0100
My race PB was only 3 tenths slower than my qualifying PB. ;) :D But then again I qualied on the default race setup ;D

T


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 7, Anderstorp - Aug 24th
Post by: Bombdogs on August 25, 2005, 05:16:04 PM +0100
Yeah i succumbed to toms crash too, was following someone really closely in 8th & saw him far too late, swerved, ploughed headlong into the tyres & finally ended up on my roof. But after the marshalls kindly turned me over, it seemed i had no damage  :o Managed a respectable 8th or 9th after that i think & had a couple of really excellent scraps along the way, all good clean stuff. Despite its anoyances, the game still can produce adrenaline pumping races, especially when you have competition as good as you lot. Cheers lads!

PMF