SimRacing.org.uk

UKGPL Season 16 - Inter-League race - Mosport

This is the second race in our Inter-League season, and the first to use the 66 mod.  Our guests will be the international Average Drivers Club, though since the race will be on the ADC server, we are as much their guests!  Each club is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team.  ADC was  founded as a gentleman's racing club, with appropriate behaviour on and off track, which I'd hope that UKGPL would be able to match.  Let's have a great reception for the ADC drivers.  

Please be in Igor UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m, (though we may use the ADC chat room as well).
Igor and Race passwords: see above

Server ADC Igor
IP address  81.88.37.9

Race date = 28-09-2008
Time = 21:00
Track = Mosport Park
Variant = 66F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = Long (27 laps)

Chassis assignments: I've left this for the team captain
BT19
one of the BT11 versions, driver to choose
one BRM, driver to choose between P261 and P83
Cooper
one Eagle, driver to choose between T1F and T1G
one Ferrari, driver to choose between 246 and 312
Honda
one Lotus, driver to choose between 43 and either of the 33 versions
McLaren

Heartily sick of Mosport now, but I'd still like to do the race. Don't care which car - I've only driven one of the so far.

We need a Captain for this race.  Any volunteers?  There is no reason why one of the drivers can't be captain, it doesn't have to be a moderator.  All the Captain has to do is pick the team (from the available drivers) and assign the chassis.  That can all be done via this thread.  ADC will be organizing the server. 

I'll volunteer to drive (and be Captain if nobody comes forward).

I might be available to drive for this  :)
If you'd like a relative noob joining in that is  ;D

Don't mind what chassis I'd be assigned to - you can put me in one of the slower ones if I'm needed as long as I'm given advance enough warning  ;)

Note that the Clubmans race will be on at the same time as this, so to volunteer you'd have to miss Clubmans- though this race has far more prestige!

I'll be there in whatever car, just appoint me a captain to look after me!  :laugh:

I will be missing this one guys, so you should score loads more points and win comfortably!!!!
I am taking some rest and relaxation in deepest Cornwall for a couple of weeks, but I will have my laptop with me and might watch proceedings from afar.

Good luck against ADC...

Hi,

Jack asked me to join the UKGPL team for this race. I'd like to drive the Lotus 33 Climax or the Fez 246...

So why is this on at same time as Clubmans race?

Thanks Remy.  The chassis allocations are in the first post- so its the 312 or 246, and the 43 or 33...

Since some of these cars aren't as familiar as the 67s, we need to organise the team fairly quickly to allow more time for practice- unless there's a volunteer for captain perhaps we should appoint one tomorrow?

Burt, the start times for these races will vary dependent on the opposition, however they are aimed at drivers who would have otherwise been racing in the Masters, rather than the Clubmans drivers.

As things stand I should be OK to assist on Sunday night. I'll drive anything you want.

So as you guys know who you are racing, here is the ADC Team :-

Maarten Steverink          BT19
Stuart Bartosiak             Eagle
Paul Skingley                 Ferrari
Malcolm Thompson         BT11
Tom Johnson                 Lotus
Burt August                  Cooper
Kelly Davis                    Honda
Donnie Yourth               BRM
Mike Beattie                 McLaren

Looking forward to seeing you on the track :)

Thanks Mike, I'm putting together my sandwich list team as we speak.

Don't pick Faldo as Captain!  LOL

OK since we don't have a volunteer for the Captain's role, I'll be Captain and my PROVISIONAL driver line-up is:

Driver	Chassis Options	Chassis Choice
Lorenzo Galluzzi*	Brabham BT19
Ken Murray	Brabham BT11 BRM or Brabham BT11 2.7 Ltr	Brabham BT11 2.7 Ltr
John Roberts	BRM P261 or BRM P83	BRM P83
Storm Cloud	Cooper T81
Hristo Itchov	T1F Eagle Climax or T1G  Eagle Weslake	TBD
Art	Ferrari 246 or Ferrari 312	Ferrari 312
Phil Thornton	Honda RA273
Remy	Lotus 43 BRM or Lotus 33 BRM or Lotus 33 Climax	Lotus 33 Climax
FullMetalGasket	McLaren M2B Ford

*  Note: Lorenzo won't be able to make it for qualifying so he'll have to start at the back of the grid.  Consequently I've given him a fast chassis to give him a chance of scoring decent points.

OK that's it a full team.  Thank you gentlemen.  It would be nice to have a couple of reserves just in case someone has last minute problems and can't make it.  If you want to volunteer as a reserve please post here.

If anybody would prefer a different chassis, post here or get practising!

PS.  I've given up on the sandwiches, Bernie is providing pies instead.

Ok Phil...show me driving the Fezza 312 please m8 if that's ok?  :sweatdrop:

OK you've got the 312 8)

Cool, I don't consider the McLaren to be particularly fast here - but I do rather like driving it  8)

Will Start practicing  ;D

would you like me to take part in this race?

john

Yes please John.  Would you be happy with the BRM? 

[/quote]
Yes please John.  Would you be happy with the BRM? 
[/quote]

yes .. can i pick what brm ? (can i take the 3lt?)

Yes you can have the 3 Litre P83  ;)

See reply 14 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5280.msg88572#msg88572)

Guys

I intend to have the ADC server set up for a test race one hour before the Match Race, so that folk can check their connections.

Just a quick question:

How are passwords being dealt with on this one?
Same as usual with them apearing at the top of this thread, or some other way?  :)

The McLaren is slowly starting to behave btw, it ain't exactly quick though is it?!  ;D

I'll publish the passwords as normal (they will appear at the top of the thread).  You will need the ADC Chatroom password AND the race password.  They won't be published in the posts on this tread as it is a public thread.  The race password section above is not public and is only visible by SRou members.

PS Glad the McLaren is behaving :D  Lorenzo is quick in the McClaren (I don't know how he does it, he's incredible!!)

Maybe I'll have to get him to send me a setup to peruse then....
I've got it running mid-high 1:25's so guess it may just squeek out a 1:24 near the end of the race  :-\

We'll see though as it's quite tricky to stay tidy enough to remain consistant - atleast it's fun while it misbehaves  ;D

Phil, can I just choose myself between those two Brabhams? There's not much between them but I seem to be slightly faster in the 2.7l.

Yes you can Ken.  I'll put you down for the 2.7L.

Good luck to the team for tonight's race- they could still use a reserve or two, if anyone not involved with the Clubman's race is interested.

As i said to Phil i' ll not be able to  qualify, and i hope to do the race.....
Anyway where can i see the pw to race and to go in their chatroom?
Which car for me tonite?BT19?

Cheers

Lorenzo

The race password is at the top of the thread.  You've got the BT19 Brabham- post #14.

well i've just given both the BRM's a spin and i'm only .2 slower in the p261 .

the p261 feels nicer to drive being a smaller car ... now i'm wondering what car to take !

john

Mike's about to start the ADC server to test for the race, if you would like to practice.  The P261 might get more help from the tow..?

Well this should be interesting. lol

Can't find a Mosport set up for my fezze so just gonna go with the flow and see what happens unless someone could me out with one please?

Just using a Brands setup here. Seems OK.

Use Steve Cloyd Watkins Glen but move the diff to 60/85 and the brake bias to whatever you usually use.

Well that's what I would do.

If you are losing it under braking go for a 60/60 or still further to 60/45


I usually find that a 45/85 stops me from spinning on the way out of corners but keep increasing the power side angle until you tame the beast.

thanks guys :)

I was enjoying that for a lap and a half. Then I bottomed out in the dip approaching the hairpin (I never tried race fuel in practice!!), hit the barrier, recovered but motor blew on the next straight! :(

Well, I guess we got creamed. Sorry if I held any of our team up but I didn't recognise many names so ended up racing everyone. Made a good start but was on the outside of someone in T1 and I was eased off the track, so 8th to dead last. Was also pushed off at Moss after I gave Beattie or Johnson (are they our guys?) the inside line, which was a bit annoying. Also fell by myself at the right after the back stretch and a brief spin in T2.

Apart from that (none of which cost me much time except for the T1 thing) I had a blast. The Cooper was a lot more powerful that a few other cars there tonight - although it seemed a bit ponderous in the turns. Nevertheless, I was able to hang with a few guys through the slow complex onto the backstretch then outpower them up the hill. That was good.

Guys,

Just a note to say Thank You for inviting us (The Average Drivers Club) to be part of this Inter League race series.

It generated a lot of interest within the Club, and there was a lot of competition for our 9 Team places. The ADC exists for enjoyable racing, without the pressure of league points at stake, but it is nice once in a while to have something to aim for. I hope that you enjoyed racing our "Average" drivers and I'm sure we would be delighted to repeat this event at a future date, if invited to do so.


Please feel free to drop in and see us anytime on the Speedgeezers forums.

PS

I'm now free for UKGPL selection, on any of the other 66 races, says he putting his other skid lid on :D

I've posted the results.  Congratulations to ADC and Stu, and thanks to Mike for organising the ADC side and providing the server.  Also well done to Lorenzo for his fastest lap and to Phil as captain, and all the UKGPL team that took part.  The replay will be posted here: http://forums.speedgeezers.net/index.php?showtopic=27685&st=0 (http://forums.speedgeezers.net/index.php?showtopic=27685&st=0)  The meeting seems to have gone very well, both sides had full teams and hopefully we'll be able to repeat the match next season.

The points margin was 89-54.

ADC 6 finishers 18+17+16+15+13+10= 89 pts
UKGPL 5 finishers 14+12+11+9+8= 54 pts

ADC were very fast, that T1F might be too quick compared to the real car, but not that quick.  Also, Clive should re-title his thread UKGPL vs the World ft. Paul Skingley's Ferrari as it seems he intends to race it against us a few times more... is this what I have to look forward to when I retire as membership secretary?

However, ADC have also had more experience with the 66 mod than we have, and it was unfortunate that Lorenzo couldn't get enough qualifying time to break their hold on the front of the grid.  We're used to the UKGPL championship system, which often puts faster drivers in slower cars, and might not be good tactics for these races?

Why do the results not have the server on, is it something we could adopt?

Not my best of races  ???
Good fun though while it lasted, and I acheived a new PB in the 66's during qualifying  ;D

That McLaren is wierd though, Lovelly handling at the start of the race on cold tyres. Good handling and grip for the next 5-7 laps on warm tyres.
Then it goes to pot for 10 laps or so (felt like forever!) when you've used roughly half the fuel.
Then when the tyres start wearing out it's back to great handling/not so much grip for the rest of the race  :-\

Shame I binned it as I was doing ok while it remained on the black stuff!  ;D

Average Drivers Club - Yeah right!  ;) ;D

I've added comments on the ADC race to the Trellet thread at RSC:

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3894717#post3894717 (http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3894717#post3894717)