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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (26 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Silverstone GP 1988 from track pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Cars allowed: Porsche 906, Ford GT40 and McLaren M1A download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.0).
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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Server seems set to Magny-Cours National. Any chance of loading up Silverstone so a couple of us can get online?

Just tried to do some laps around, firstly i'm in awe of the guys who drove this version back in the day. But its a bit tricky to work out which corners which at the moment as its a bit featureless. Going to take some learning just to work out th e correct corner speed without realising you had acres of track you could have used!

Head is saying 906, but i just gotta try the mclaren! 

Don't waste your time Spanner, server is running wrong version of Silverstone :) See first post. I tried to get right one up but have hit some technical difficulties so stuck Jarama up instead. The right version should be there soon.

Need to test my new install so will have a go online now.

There is such thing as offline racing you know ;)

Any of you guys got a half decent setup for the McLaren? I've spent about an hour tonight messing with the settings & although I have done 1 or 2 reasonable laps I'm still having more laps going off the track than staying on it. I can get it to drive out of the corners really well but can't get it to turn into corners unless I'm very gentle with it to avoid it oversteering. I really want to race this car but it looks like the 906 will have to come out to play instead.

Track now installed and running on the server

Cheers Pete.

I'm determined to give the McLaren a go. I'll hopefully have a setup soon Geoff.

We had that problem (corner entry oversteer) at the fun/test race at Interlagos. You might find a set up there that works? I couldn't get the hang of it back then but am going to try giving it another shot here.

At last i´ve managed 30 minutes to spare on a test
And for the first time i am devided beetween three cars  :-\
GT40 has the power, but also the tire wear. 906 has the nimble at corners and the lightweight.
Mclaren has a bit of both. Did only a three laps each and the Mc is almost convincing me to
choose it, on the other hand the others aren´t so "loose around", but tho the track is flat
and wide, so why not?.............achieved 1.35 only with Mclaren (i´m not an allien ok?)
with the others i took 2 seconds more to do a lap. No doubt i am more confortable with
GT40 and 906...........oh dear.......... ::) :P
Cheers

I reduced both anti-roll bar´s, soften the rear and front springs and reduced the camber all around add some
coast and lock. Hope it helps.  8)

Phew this is going to be macho racing for people that drive the M1A or GT40.  It's brutal, the McLaren, both in terms of grunt and biting you.  But its fast, very fast indeed, if you can keep it neat.  Took my interlagos setup (which is online I think) and stiffened springs and shocks a bit and its almost as fast as a Crapi round here.

Need to be very smooth, feed the front in early, no late braking, then once the front sticks and you're pointing inside your exit line, hit the throttle hard and power oversteer out, or spin.

Very much the same with the GT40 but it's easier to drive, doesn't bite so suddenly, although it lacks power compared.

Choice will depend on concentration I think, McLaren is going to need a lot of it.  :o

I see PR's posted almost the same - except he's gone softer.  Who knows now?

OK, cheers all, I'll give some of those tips a try & see if I can get it a bit better. I don't think I'm a million miles away on lap time (1.35.4 best) but it is just soooo difficult to get it consistent & stay on the track.

And that is quite a challenge (i believe you´re talking about McLaren)  :P

Cheers

Just tried your setup Legzy, excellent stuff, car handles much better. Still not quite as fast as my previous best but much more consistent. Cheers :thumbup1:

Does anyone else have issues when trying to access the online setups? A few times when clicking on them to get the description up, it just sits there and i've had to reboot a few times.

Calling all late nighters
Online praccy @ 10:30(ish) tonight, highest standards of gentlemanly conduct expected (not).

I had that problem a few months back spanner :( it seemed to fix itself (I think).

Will try and join you lot for a late night praccy this eve if i get time.  :)

I had a problem with GTR2 like that over the weekend, but seemed fine on Monday

Well i made sure GTL doesnt have any restrictions on the software firewall i have installed but it didnt seem to help. Maybe its just the server?

Anyway, as i couldnt try the Mclaren setups i thought i'd stick with the 906.

Have you tried accessing them online from a different track? i.e. load up the game from BrandsHatch & see if you can get to the online setups from there. Who knows, might work.  ???

Sadly I will not be able to attend this one, as I have been banished to Milton Keynes for the week  :(
Hope to be there for next week's Spanish dancing.

Crikey, that is grim.

Got my spanking G25 to try out tonight. Apologies for the shameful driving in adavance :)

were used to it

Won't notice the difference!  ;D

Is this an anual event? ;D

Well i ain't gonna get there at all at this rate :'( Someone help please? https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5191.msg91423#new

GT40 is awesome but with very annoying understeer and the Maclaren will be on its bare rims by the end. Got down to a 33.5 in qually set in the 906 so gonna take that badboy!!  cyall there. :)

Wow, nice time, that IS quick.  8)  Haven't tried any qualifying runs in the McLaren but I don't think I can get down to that.  Watch that badboy Dan, the 906 is the only car I've ever blown a tyre in.  ;)  Let's see whether I can make the McLaren number 2.

what actual version of the track is this one? I tried 3 versions i have on my install and none seemed to match this ones description.  ???

I also had a setup folder called 'silverstone 88' but no track that had same name.
When i tried the online lobby last night at 10.30 it was only showing mondello park ?

Gave up and did some road america instead.

Goddamn...just got back from a couple of weeks in sunny Corfu and it's straight in at the deep end - 33.5 in the 906!?

Found exactly the same as you in the Maclaren in terms of handling Steve but managed to extract a 34.2 from it, think Dan's right though, you'll be able to see the mesh by lap 20.

Was going to take it anyway but seeing Dan's time I'm now tempted to continue thrashing the porker, just need to find a good two secs per lap, must be the heavier Prodigy paint.

(not sure if it helps but I just downloaded the one from here and over-wrote what I had MJ)

As in the first post on this thread....the one in the TRACK PACK...available from the downloads page.

I think the FileFront one has been deleted, but the other one is still there.

Not be there for this one, try to have fun without me :)

well thats exactly what i deduced, except i cannot think why it wouldnt be present in my locations folder  ??? I had installed the track pack when it was released. Is it actually called Silverstone 88 or whatever dates? I only had silverstone GP, Silv national and international and silv club present.

Yes, Silverstone 88 is correct.

Thanks Phil, cant think why i would have removed it  ???

I didn't remove it either Mark, but once I reinstalled it was fine.

Shame, who we all gonna overtake now?  ;) but seriously, couldn't you race with your old setup for tonight then reload Windows b4 next week?

It's a weird one this Mark. I also had several Silverstone tracks installed, one of which I thought was this one, but none of them would work on the test server until I deleted the lot and installed from the track pack. Hope you can make it tonight.

Just been looking at GTLrank and the top 4 times for this track are all SROU drivers.  ;D

Top 5 actually Dan  ;)

Well bad luck again for me some one spun and I got hit, car would not turn in well after, which seeing as it turned in badly to start with was not good so I quit out. I might come back for one more try next week.

Made a bad start (1st gear was way to high) and went backwards to start with. Ran out of room at the hairpin and got spun around so was starting to make up places from last when my net locked up again :( I hope my ghost didn't cvause any problems!!

So I still got a problem, I really thought it was fixed. Another call to the ISP then!!

I hit you as you just suddenly appeared on back straight  :D ;D
no damage to my winning  hopes but did mess the front of the car up and would not go straight and gave up after about 6 more lap's
not your problem had a good race for the rest :thumbup2:
cheers admins
congrats podium

Dynosaur, I'm a &^%^%er ! Sorry, for the bump. Completely my fault!

 :-[

Sorry mate didnt know that was you.  :)

Feel for you Bara... thats mega frustrating. ???



Race was lonely but good.  Was very suprised that the M1's dropped off so quickly , had a good battle with Steve as usual ( shame you werent in a 906 would have been something )  Just kept it consistent when i got in front and brought it home. Long time coming this win this season so very pleased.

Cheers all.

Results and Replay available

Thats why Assa was so quick he had secret tyres!

Fastest lap is wrong there Bob on the lap records.

Brillaint win Dan, demolished us all.   :)  Don't think I could have matched your pace in the 906 either!

McLaren was brilliant but awful.  :D  Lots of lovely power but its so difficult to drive right on the limit that as soon as you got clear by 4-5 seconds Dan I just settled for 2nd, no point pushing and risking spinning, and wanted to save the tyres.

Still, I noticed the rear suddenly started going under full throttle at lap 17 (I popped up the HUD) and thought 'oh no' hid the HUD (I like that!) and drove to what I thought would be the last lap, popped it up and it was lap 21.  NOOOOOOOOOOOO.  Longest ten minutes I've ever driven, the rears were so gone I spun at walking pace in Becketts, fortunately the only cars chasing were McLarens that must have been equally bad to drive.

Very relieved when the race ended, I can tell you.

Hmm, will be a big decision to drive the McLaren again, that was very hard work.  :)

I take it its a class record . ;)

if I could ever hate work for anything else, Today's race would be that.

It´s ok, racing incident.  ;)

Thanks buddy!
Not a great race for me!
Practiced a lot this week and was feeling confident!
Qualified in 10th but was up to 5th in the first few laps due to others woes!
One thing I normally pride myself on is consistency even if at a slower pace! but last night I was all over the place!
Bumped into Dynosaur, went straight on at the same corner twice! unforced!
When I did concentrate I was fine!
I was getting a bit bored with the 906 etc. so may be less practice next week! :)

Would have loved to have run the M1 but would still be racing now! or more likely,  still be in the pits changing tyres again! :)

Thanks all

M.

Yep, the selection of the cars meant only one option for me, and that was 906. My problem with any car in GTL is that I don´t really feel anything through my steering wheel. I have a G25 wheel, FFB maxed ingame, but as soon as I drive out of pits I feel very little FFB effects. I find it nicer to drive with the effects than without. With other sims there is no problem, it is only GTL that causes me some head ache.

When you exit your garage and lost the FF, hit esc key, then go to CONTROLS, select forcefeedback, there is
a litlle box, disable it and re-able it, see if it works, i believe it will.  :)

Oh yeah, forgot say say awesome pole lap from Assassino. 32.4.  8)  I never managed a perfect lap, probably a mid 33 would be on the cards but to drag that tricky M1A round in mid 32........

And sorry for Jimmer for running into you at the end of qually, ruined both our final laps, completely my fault, misjudged things, won't happen again.  ;)

Not again Baracus !?!?!?!?! :o  Shout to your ISP supplier mate!

Last second choice had put me in the 906, to be honest i never drive it,
don´t like it very much.  :P
Qualifying 11th, i went for a full fuel strategy (19 laps), however i finished race with
half of tank fuel.  ???
Good start and 7th place on 1st lap, but at the end of lap 2 i braked to much entering
the chicane, locked rear wheels and spun into the gravel, back on track in 15th  ;D
and going for a good scrapp with Spanner, Legzy, W. Tony and Tinman (i believe i´m not
forgeting nobody).
Close to the end i´d catch mr_oily, but his consistent driving always kept a 2 seconds gap,
don´t let me get close enough to try an overtaking manouvre.  :)
I believe if the race had more 5 minutes, problabily, mr_oily and me could catch the two
McLaren in front, i bet they´re tires gone to the rims.  ;D
Can´t complay for the final result (3rd 906 and 6th overall).
Congrats on your win Dan.  ;)
Thanks again to all backmarkers, nice job as usual. :notworthy:

Cheers

Lol cheers PR, had to chuckle when I saw "him again!" in my mirrors  ;D Knew it could easily all change, especially around here where you get on the grass at an exit and get mugged for half a lap while you regain momentum.

Felt good pace in the 906 and although Dan was in a league of his own here, a 33.4 in practice gave me the confidence to keep pushing and was optimistic of a good result. I don't know whether it was race rustiness (after two weeks lol) or too much Ouzo but I threw a better finish away all by myself.

After a reasonable getaway, I got way too cocky at Abbey in the early stages, cracked the barrier and dropped from fourth/ fifth down to 12th I think it was. Battled hard to get back to 5th and after some good little dices was closing in on the first of the slip sliding Maclarens at almost 2 secs a lap with probably half a lap in hand to try a do-or-die on Geoffers. Unfortunately the talent ran out, it all got a bit less smooth than you need around here and after getting on the grass a couple of times I really didn't deserve anything more this time out.

Hat off again Minton and the same to the M1 chaps, a gutsy choice and you deserved those spots...I would still obviously have had no quarms about nicking one or two while you trundled about on the rims heheh  ;)

I decided I'd give the McLaren a try as I had pinched Legzy's setup & tweeked it a bit & got a pretty good feel for the car now. I was certain the tyres would be gone by half distance but actually they held up pretty well & I was only lapping about a sec slower at the end than I was at the start.

I didn't have quite the pace of Assassino & Steve but I was managing to keep them in sight & got 3rd place when Assassino spun. Only lasted a lap though, at Copse on the next lap I had a lag induced spin (found after that PC downloaded MS updates during the race >:(). Kept Assassino in sight for the rest of the race but never really made much impression on the gap. With no digital readout in the McLaren I was praying for the race to finish over the last few laps as Mr Oily was gaining fast. It came just in time :), another lap & he would have caught me!

Congrats to Dan (great pace), Steve & Assassino. :thumbup1:

Cya at Jarama

Geoffers

Unofficial Lapchart (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/steveh/Silverstone88GTL/)

Gawd, not one of the best races and had high hopes from 7th on the Grid. Sadly i dont have a 'thankyou' speech, only an 'apology' speech.


Sorry to Baracus for spinning you off but you dived for a gap that, with someone on my inside meant that i was aiming for and had nowhere to go.

Then after trying to get out of the way while trying to get back up to speed i get hit by my teamie! Thanks Tony :'(. Which sends me into Tinman who gets pushed to the tarmac on the inside. Sorry about that.

So i'm facing the oncoming people at the rear of the field, hoping no-ones aiming for me, but it seems Racepace didnt see me and hit me, knocking MadMike off as well! Sorry guys.


But after all that I then over the race managed to climb back up to 7th spot so I cant be too disappointed.

Fellow  :alien: Ruskus is still holding that one for the 76-ers ...

Was a little surprised about the number of GT40's on the grid until we got racing.... had my hands full with keeping the Ford on the road. Don't even want to think about what it must have been like in the Mac.

Of course I did some late qually tuning which I didn't test properly so it was slippin' and sliding all the way  :-[

Apologies to some overtakers which I might have got in the way, there were lots of green and white Porsches about and had some trouble figuring out who I actually raced, since I still haven't found the illustrious blue light on the dashboard  ???
Got it definitely wrong in the last corner with a Prodigy Porsche who had to evade my earlier-than-early braking. Terribly sorry !   :'(

On the good side I had some nice battles with Bill and API. Thanks guys for the gentlemanly conduct and for evading my abnormal racing lines  :euro:

Off to the sangria bar now! tumbleweed

btw. is the '1st is running with headlights on'- rule still on. It would help the backmarkers imo ... (it would help me at least)

Was that the last croner of the last lap? I know I overtook two people then but I can't remember who. :-\

It was near the end of the race. It involved 2 ProdPorches who were chasing each other I believe. I drove a white GT40 with green stripes.

This is from rules

To be honest I didn't know that. I think its a good idea for lappees to flash their lights as it really helps both parties and I'll be doing so from now on, if I lap anyone that is ;)

I cant say i've noticed people flashing their lights when looking in mirror as they seem quite low res, only really noticed the lit area on the track from their lights. And some tracks we've run dont really show that.

No worries mate was my fault! I think my spatial awareness was a bit out of calibration as I thought I had already cleared your car just before/under braking - sorry it caused you problems later on!! :(

Grats Dan you had some pace there my man! Looks like my championship charge has been scuppered again?! :)

Don't know why but never really got excited about this upcoming race & even 2 mins pre-race, was still left disappointed/frustrated with my beloved 906.

No idea what happened on my 1st timed lap of qually, I knocked a second off my PB that I'd not gotten near for a couple of nights & didn't get near it again for the rest of qually either. But it was enough to grab me.  8)

Turned out I managed to have some great racing with so many people (too many to mention) for a few laps at a time, but my focus remains on team mate Blunder...
I got so close this time!!! Had managed to get ahead with some of my best driving to date, held it for 4 or 5 laps but with just 5 laps left I had my 1st 'off' of the race & he got back past  :(  But it didn't finish there, I hounded him down till the end & had got back to a fraction short of striking distance by my last bend having managed to tag on the back of Minton for a couple of laps  ;D (as he eased home I'm sure)

I'd have loved to have had a pop in the McLaren as it was great fun to test, but it would have to be in a shorter race (tyre/concentration deterioration) or a single class field?

I was playing with you buddy!  :lol:

One of these days!