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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (10 mins)
Race: 20:35 (17 laps = ~80mins)

Track: Le Mans Sarthe v2.0  (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_lemans))
Cars allowed: Any GTC76 plus GT40 and McLaren M1A download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.0).
Time of Day Setting: 08:00
Start: STANDING
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.ukRules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0).
(3) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6.5.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

(5) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=188;theme=5)

 :( Congratulations to the winner of the championship as due to the date being when I'm on afternoon shift (I thought it was going to be on the 16th, a Sunday) and I can therefore not fight for the championship, gutted is an understatement  :'(
Any chance of running it on the 16th?

Bugger :-\ The Sunday dates were an oversight on my part and I apologise. 

 :( So no chance of moving it then to the week after?

Why would you think that a GTL event was being held on a sunday  ???

Because that was the initial date shown on the schedule.

im having trouble downloading the track, both links are not responding.  ???

is this a newer version of what we raced before or same one?  I have a dir called 24HLemans and the readme just says
"Le Mans 24H 2003 by Frank.f55s
Packaged for UKGTL."

is that the same version?

Yep, same version MJ, just checked my Filefront link and all seems ok

http://files.filefront.com/Le+Mans+v2+0+by+Frankf55srar/;10316393;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/Le+Mans+v2+0+by+Frankf55srar/;10316393;/fileinfo.html)

Ah Le Mans, a chance to revisit the location of my debut race  8)
Also there is still the chance for me to finish 6th in the Enduro Drivers Championship!..... If nobody else turns up. :-[

something to wet the appetite  8)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KmA01dUhdPY

GT40 at Le Mans 1967

and can we start the race like this?  ;D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pkiw2H02I&feature=related

there is some awesome old footage in this one.
or this:-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_e1cByXMlU

anyone put in any laps here yet? Interested to see what sort of times to aim for/beat  ;)

Can we do our live timing (sort of :P) by posting laptimes throughout the week and in what car?

Early runs for me in the 911 and i am doing 4:39 so far. Was on a quicker lap but ran wide in final sector ::) so would hope to move up into 4:37/38 territory, if not higher, with more runs.

Love this track, gives me goose-bumps just driving on it. 8)

4:26/4:27's in the last TC76 race.

yeah i just found the old race thread where i got a damn disco at the time so never got to see how the race would pan out. I do remember i had the only 911 on grid and it was outgunned big time. Perhaps i need to try another car this time around as no doubt the grid will be full of uncontrollable V8's again  ;)

I think a 4:39 only got me 16th on the grid  :o so need more power here.

took 2 secs off my 911 time down to 4:37 but still not competitive compared to the V8 cars.

Tried the 906 briefly and that feels so much better through the corners than the 911 so may have to take the baby 917  :)
Am just watching the Le Mans movie again too for a perfect Le Mans afternoon. 8) Beats working  ;)

Anyone seen the 935 mod cars in action at Le Mans yet? Awesome 8) The AI was using 3 of them whilst i was practising and they just look and sound amazing belting down the Mulsanne straight.  :tt1:  I hope they mod a car to compete with it as its simply a crime not to use this beast in our races at some point, even if it formed its own class in a mixed grid of 76 cars.

Don't you overdo it MJ. Man I wish I'd spent my Monday honing me braking points lol  ;)

Cheers for the clips, did the trick getting me in the mood although that version looked a damn sight easier than the one we drive I'm sure. Those starts were insane, strange thought but did they wear seatbelts in those days or just take their chances to save a few secs getting away lol!?

I'm not sure I'd fancy being in one of the slower cars either, being buzzed at 100mph in places!  I'd be welded to my mirrors awaiting the next GT40 missile.

I ran a lap of 3:21 last night


You guys are just lucky i have to miss another race.

we certainly are....over a minute a lap faster than the lap records  :o  ;) ;D

This lap must have some serious corner cutting included ::)  ;D

Maybe he was flying driving a Mercedes.  ;)

TT

He's, probably running the 'no chicane' version.....I hope
4.27 pb so far in Pantera.

That´s a nice time, Madd-RIP! I´ve only managed 4:31. so far.

Calling all late nighters
Online praccy @ 10:30(ish) tonight, highest standards of gentlemanly conduct expected (not).

Not that we'll ever see each other on this huge circuit!

Lol, that's 11:30 my time, so... I have to do my homework then.  ;)

TT

The Pantera is in a league of its own here...should be banned IMO  ;) It can wipe the floor with most of the cars at a fast track like Le Mans. Its the 935 of our current car selection (see other thread :P )

Still unsure which car to take.  :-\

Vette is faster in a straight line than the Pantera ;D. And a lot more fun too :D

I think I'm going with the McLaren again, it actually handles quite well around here, just at bit tricky through the chicanes either end of the S/F straight. Also the tyres don't seem to reach the real high temps they do on the short circuits, so might last a bit better. Tried 4 or 5 laps last night & did 4.34 quite easy so should be able to knock another 2-3s off that. Just need to enable HUD now to know when to pit!

Think I may add a little Mardi-gras colour and atmosphere in the big gay stars n stripes smallblock Vette.   ;D


Not when I'm driving the smallblock.  Foolishly tried an AI race to test it out, and the AI were so insistent in crashing into my fat arse as I crawled through the corners I only got a single clean lap at 4:41......I'm sure there are several seconds to be gained on that though.  It can't be 10+ seconds off the pace of a Pantera....can it?

I have run a dozen or so laps in the Pantera and am coming in just under 4:40, not very competitive but am sure that my times will improve during the race.  One question - how do you enable a fuel gauge as there doesn't seem to be one on the dash.  I'm using a tally chart at the moment and crossing out each lap completed so I know when to pit which is fine in practice but no good when racing.  I use the cockpit view, never been a fan of chase as it feels wrong to me, my sons being brought up on Gran Turismo are the opposite and prefer the chase view.  Each to their own I guess.

Diki

I just set up my HUD on the space bar for easy onyoffability

Smallblock? That the patriotic red one? That one is useless, it might be a bit lighter, but that ain't noticable in handling, and the lack of power is. The Mean green machine is a beast and it was quicker in a straight line at Silverstone (88 I think).

I've been giving the 'big green one' a good go... it's actually not as bad as I remember it the last time I dusted it off. I'm not as quick in it as I am in the m1a yet, but am defo tempted to finally dump my 906 that I've already used 4 times this season. Oh yeah, Pantera was quick too, just has the same problems doing corners!
Escort was very nice, but just lacked a high enough top speed, gets there quickly though.

Think I'm going to have to sit this one out. I've somehow buggered my back and sim racing makes it worse. I could probably manage a sprint but an endurance would cripple me. Shame, I like this circuit. Hope to make it back at least for the demolition derby next week.

(http://www.usautoparts.net/bmw/pics/vintage/7878_1024.jpg)   
Allright, i will not use this one but the Schnitzer one.   ;)

Look at those rear wheels  :o

Sorry to hear that, Phil! Hope you get your back sorted out soon!

Unlucky timing Phil, just before the Grand Dame.. hope you get well soon!

Terribly off the pace in the GT40. Please be patient when lapping the idiot in the white T40 wearing a big grin on his face  :D

Gonna be in the capri tonight, only car i can get under 4.30. c yall there. :)

 :'( Hope its not like last time we raced here with people flying off left right and centre in their big V8's as they cant control them !  :P  Perhaps we need the re-incentive of having points for different classes in the race depending on performance of cars? or is that too complicated? Could be worth having for the big occasion endurance races as its not much fun knowing you could be racing no-one in a similar performance car over 80 minutes. :-\

Well there's no excuse for screwing up a 80 minute race at the start and I'm sure it will not happen tonight. The starts have really improved this season  :)

Ideas are already being discussed for S7 here  https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5441.msg93922#new .

Well I've chosen to drive one so who knows

kudos to ginsters, i dont know how you are able to hustle that GT40 around here so quickly. Nearest i can get to your amazing times is a 4:41 in that car. Shame as i love it, gives me the same nostalgic rush as the 911 at Le Mans.

Car choice for me is either 911RSR, GT40 or if i want the easy option tonight, the Pantera.

I think I'm going to be super adventurous tonight & will take the Cwapi out for my 1st time... Hope it's gentle with me!
Have finally managed to get a couple of laps under 4:40, which I'm very pleased with  :alien: ;)

I agree Mark, completely.  :)

Yes the Pantera may be one of the easiest (relatively) to get a time under 4.30 Mark,but trying to get the last few seconds really makes you work!
Believe me!  :D

Er, just had a thought. Qualy is 10 mins long for this race, which is enough for an out lap & one timed lap. Would it be worth increasing it just for this race enough to squeeze in a 2nd timed lap?  :-\

When I tried it I couldn't quite break 4:30 even, Pantera scares the carp out of me as you brake down from these super-high speeds, feels so unstable and desperate to spin.  So pushing for the last second or two, no way.  Strangely the Corvette feels much better on the brakes.  Just not on the steering.  :P


One lap's enough surely, not like overtaking is difficult here.  Do we really care about grid order?  Gonna be a long enough night of driving anyway......

I don't as I'll always be near the back of the grid, it was more the front runners I was thinking of.

Exactly and effectively its a one lap shoot out. Exciting stuff.

With that in mind, we all must be on our best quali behaviour. Letting people pass on your outlap etc. :)

Could cars starting their hotlap turn their headlamps on?

When you put it like that it sounds so cool!


That's an idea.  Another solution is for everyone to aim to leave the pits in the first 3 minutes or so - barring offs the first people on hotlaps won't encounter any outlapping people that way.

Might mix the grid up a bit, make a mistake & you are going to be further down the grid than you normally would be!

It's all irrelevant. I'll be mixing the grid up on my own as soon as I lose control of the V8 at the start line.
ENJOY  ;D

Corvette is excellent on the brakes I agree, nice and stable. A shame it is compromised slightly in the twisties, but the Pantera does like to try and spit you off at every opportunity, it even twitches on that rise before the 90 right at the end of Mulsanne, scary! :o

Some meatier Capri sounds if you like that kind of thing  ;D

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=1072

Great idea. ;)

Okay,
that was a short and frustrating race for me.
Got a decent start and gained some places to get to 15th place .
I knew i couldn't hold my position with me driving the BMW, lack of topspeed and even less driver capabilities.

Then in the 2nd lap had a spin after the long straight and going into the first of the 2 chicanes. Only had a little kiss with the wall and my engine died  :'(

So, season over.  Grats to all that survived the race and thanks for a great season.

See you all next year.

Game froze one lap from the end. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Words cannot begin to explain how angry I am right now.

Well I am getting better in 76'ers this season but I'm still not great :) Truly awful race from me, about all I could manage was too stay on track and I didn't do that very well at times. Thx for realising the grief I was having Oily and not tagging me (must have put the woolies up ya I bet :)) . To top it all I had a s/g penalty on last lap avoiding Oily and even though I pitted my 3rd is gone I spose.

Not sure who won outta PR and Matt but either way deserving champs both. Congrats :) Team champs must be interesting as well.

Seems the right time to thank Pseudo for all his help, encouragement and mickey taking throughout this season. Thx muchly mate. Thx to all of you gents for the fantastic turnout and racing all season long. I've enjoyed this season more than any other thx to you gents. Finally thx to Piccers for his great work behind the scenes and Dave for giving us the chance to give something back. Don't think I've missed anyone :laugh:

Though luck Sandor, next year there wil be a GDC Porsche  ;)

Thanks to the admins (Pseudo, SBG) for organizing yet another great season.
Really enjoyed the weekly scrap of racing. All the effort you put into this is much appreciated.

Now off to polish the cars for the :devil: Raleigh Demolition Derby :devil:

 

Noooooo !!!...i ran out of fuel on lap 14 of 17 whilst 4th in the underpowered Porka  :'(  literally coasted up the pitlane entrance and only made it half way up the incline.....gutted !

I thought i had done a sterling job considering the power disadvantage to every other car on the grid but the sodding fuel guage flashed up red as soon as i crossed the s/f line and i knew i was in trouble to make a whole lap once that came on (it had showed just under quarter of a tank before the s/f line...bloody fuel gauge !).
I coasted onto the verge and had to painfully watch the last two laps as the entire grid, even those +2laps behind me stormed past  :hang: ...the true fate of many a Le Mans endurance racer !

Had an absolute blast, thought the whole grid looked superb as it blasted off the line and all very clean from my 7th place spot into the dunlop curves despite looking like 4 cars abreast heading into them  :o
The race was brilliant, frustrating watching powerful cars get past but loved every minute of it. Had a few annoying spins usually when having to take a corner on the wrong line due to other traffic but otherwise the 911 was a joy to drive here. Got a great race PB of 4:35.2 too  8)

Big congratulations to Pribeiro on a stunning win and also congrats to the other podium guys and all finishers.

Simply awesome  :thumbup1:

Urgh - disaster of a race. First lap out, I brake early for Indianapolis, but start to realise that I'm still catching RuiC on the brakes. Can't slow down enough, so decided to throw it off the road rather than hit Rui. Only problem was that I totally, completely mis-timed it, and clipped Rui into a spin - BIG apologies for that rather stupid mistake on my part. Then I made a few other total noob mistakes on the next few laps trying to be clever.

Got a few places back, but just went off a few times because I'm out of practice (lame excuse #7), totally buggered the car, and couldn't keep it on the road. So I drove carefully and slowly after that to avoid taking anyone else out, and finished a lowly 19th.

Replay and results in

That was very very very very and very enjoyable. Thanks for organising this.
I had a great battle with ade for most of the time, swapping places and a little paint. just excellent.
on lap 11 or maybe 10 i went in the kitty litter and decided to have a pitstop.
for some reason my right arrow key switches the headlamps on and fuel was set to 0. great.
changed tyres and went out. had some more fun with spanner(?), went to pits again, still no fuel, out of pits, all or nothing,
...............nothing it is.
still enormous fun.
thx again sbg and everyone else involved.

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I managed to gain six places in the last 1,5 lap !!!!

 :lol:

Great race  ,Stayed with PR until had a massive crash . Really good racing with PR for about 8 laps top stufff . ;)Pitted and went down to 16th coz of all the repair work. managed to get back to 7th.

Grats to Matt on the drivers championship

Grats to Pr and rest of podium  :jumpjoy:    :notworthy:

We also got the team champs, good season for us .

Thx to all the moderators and everyone who took part in the championship , Awesome as always.  ;)

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Check them results? but if that is right then I will be skipping round the office tomorrow!?
How di that happen!?
Did a 4.30 in practice about 3 days ago but have not got near it since!
Qualify with a 4.35 ! but ok in 6th.
Clean start no issues! top 5 dissappeared, rest of field dissappeared!
GTL timetrial after that! Stopped half way for fuel only, ( took a risk on the tyre wear! )
Was struggling after that but was under 4.37 still running in 6th!
Whoever was in 7th at the time was 20 secs behind, then 16, then 10, then I seem to be in 4th? with a couple to go!
Knew it was gonna be close so drove as fast as I possible could!
Had 2 cars in the distance closing fast, ended up braking into the last 2 chicanes with Madd-RIP ! I held the inside line and he had to give!
Finished, saw 2 cars in front of me!? but the results show 2nd!? strange!?
Will delay the skipping until it's confirmed!

Thanks to all those involved, particularly the admins obviously and to all of the rest of you for such a great fun, close, fair, respectful dam good season.
No wonder we all come back for more with the standard of driving and friendly banter etc.

Long may it continue!

Martin

 :-[ Well I really thought I'd stuffed up royally there, managed a pb in quali but tried to drive safely, which I did, until my in lap when i had a brain fart and threw it into the wall ( cue James May favourite saying).
Pribeiro decided to join me but I had stalled it in the ensuing spin and he hadn't, no problem I thought just pit any way and try to get in front of SBG......brilliant.

Except........my pit crew were having lunch and kept me sitting there waiting......and waiting.....before eventually getting up and working on my car  :taz: , as I sat there contemplating heinous crimes against my pc I waved as everyone drove past.

Eventually I was released in 7th, and tried my best to catch up, Mark was passed while in the pits and Assassino had a moment so I got passed him (damn that McLaren is quick) I then reeled in Martim but just couldn't get past.

So I thought I'd lost it to SBG/ Pribeiro, only to see SBG in the pits granting me 3rd, I still wasn't sure until the results were posted, woophee  ;D ,but only just. :sweatdrop:

Congratulations to Pribeiro for an absolutely stunning drive (please stop reeling me in and making me work!) and also commiserations to both you and Ian for just missing out on a very possible championship win .

Also Dan's team RVS are the winners too so a big pat on our back for that one.  :)

I too must congratulate the organisers for a truly solid and worthwhile effort in giving us all this opportunity to enjoy GTL like this again, it has been absolutely brilliant, take a bow gentlemen, take a bow.  :notworthy:  :clap:

I believe the next season will also become a classic battle, bring it on! :fencing:

Results seem funny. Did Oily get a s/g like me on last lap ??? If so, it must have been done avoiding me, apologies  :'(

 ??? don't tell me I've done a Massa! (it did show me as 3rd when I crossed the line)

Season over. Many thanks to Bob, Ian and everybody else who helped make it a success, including all those who spent time testing, not forgetting everyone who participated and last but not least, our favourite brothers, without whom we wouldn't have this community  :notworthy:

Grats Martin!  8)  And others, but him first.  ;)  Bad luck, MJ.  :-\
Had some close laps with Steve in his red firefighter car. :P  Nice, but I prefer Ford GT.  ;)
 
TT

Definitely no s/g for me sbg - bizarre!?

 :( I think I'm going to be disappointed very soon.

So it seems in the closing stages I was far from alone in having something messed up happen.

If I'd have realised I would have gladly done a 'Glock' !  ;)

 Cheers for a great enduro season everyone 8) and SBG and psuedo for making it all happen :clap: :thumbup2: :thumbup1: The season started so well with a third on the podium but soon went down hill from there :(
Thanks to Klose for some good and clean racing tonight :thumbup1: sorry if i worried you off at the chicane when i got all out of shape :-[
After the pit stop i was amazed i was infront of Dan Minton and the other fast boys :o was well chuffed untill i noticed i had messed up my fuel and watched them all sail past from the pits :'( (note for next season it only tops you up to the amount you choose at the pit stop) ??? after two more pit stops  coz i messed up again  ;D i managed to make it to the end (with  help from my Goth pit crew doing my sums for me) :D
                   
                                                       Cheers all and thanks
                   looking forward to some fun runs before next season, miss you already!!!!
                               Right where did i park my Messerschmitt 109 ;D
                                                              Thanks   Ade

                             

sexiest car on track for me last night was that buff coloured Mclaren driven by Geoffers, it looked so 'vintage racer' in that colour scheme steaming down the mulsanne  8)

worst car was that disgusting nuclear green 906  :wetfish: ..cant you tone that revolting colour down to something a little more 'classic'? ...like a sexy racing green or something  ;)

I was glad to see a bit more variation in the grid last night too, it all looked very cool on track.

Still shaking my head this morning at losing out on a great top 10 or top 5 finish in the little porker with only two laps remaining. Tragedy!
Ferdinand Porsche has dropped me from the works team and made me drink a glass of petrol as penance and a reminder! :P

Special thanks to Pseudo and Ginsters and Dave and Picnic for all their hard work behind the scenes to make GTL racing great once again.  :thumbup1:

 :-\ Any developments over whether the results still stand?
Suspense is killing me!

Its being worked on Matt. We want to make sure we have got it right so its taking time I'm afraid. Will get back to you asap.

My second UKGTL race and first where I needed to pit - not sure what went wrong as I ran out of fuel with a lap and a half to go.  Qualified 12th and was very steady off the line, hangover from racing GPL it looks like the cars can get much closer without the inevitable 50 feet in the air crash occurring in GTL.  Ended up in 19th or so by the Mulsanne straight.  Lapped quite steadily couple of minor offs but otherwise OK really beginning to enjoy the Pantera.  Did my pit stop 2 minutes later are hey ever going to finish... Finally I get away new tyres and my newly found confidence in the car found me down in the 4:35s when hang on where has the power gone followed by silence as I coasted to a halt.

Guess I needed to do more than just hit enter when the pit stop sheet is displayed  :whistling:

Congratulations to the pole and all finishers was good racing, thanks to the organisers.  Must download Paul Ricard and get some practice in for the next event.

Diki

Race of good & bad for me.

The bad, really messed up my qually by going off twice & starting 17th. But worse than that, was about lap 5 I totally missed my braking point for the final chicane whilst battling with several Capris & ploughed into Tinman's car at virtually undiminished speed taking him off into the gravel >:(. Very sorry Tinman, noob mistake.

Also had a collision with Matt Rowe at the Porsche Curves when he ran wide going in & I went inside just as Matt came back across the track, we touched & Matt spun. Not sure whose fault but I waited for Matt to rejoin.

Good parts of the race. The start & the first lap, I went from 17th on the grid to 7th at the end of lap 1. Then undid all the hard work by going off at Tetre Rouge on lap 2. Had good battles with several cars, mainly Capris during the first half of the race, then the second half of the race was virtually a constant dice with Legzy's Capri. We must have swapped places at least half a dozen times every lap ;D. The Capri was quicker in the twisty bits & on top speed, but the McLaren was much quicker on acceleration through the gears. On all the long straights I blasted past the Capri on acceleration only for Legzy to repass when the McLaren ran out of speed. Great stuff.

Not sure why the McLaren was not pulling top gear very well as it was fine in practice, but during the race it wouldn't rev out in top. Maybe that off at the start of lap 2 caused body damage that was affecting the aerodynamics & slowing the top speed.

Once again sorry to Tinman for the daft mistake.

Thanks to Legzy for a most enjoyable last few laps & also to Pseudo & SBG for great organisation.

Congrats to the podium.

Cya next time
Geoffers

According to the export, Mr Oily had invalid laps 13, 16 and 17. Three strikes and thus a stop and go (or time penalty on the final lap). So unless new evidence comes to light I would imagine the results will stand subject to court rulings.

Thanks Admins for a really good season. Not sure I liked all the tracks and car choices but I just miss those out.

Congrats to my team mates for making the Team Oldie cars look great.

Congrats Martin for last night (that'll keep you warm those long winter nights) but dont keep on about it down the pub or you'll get some strange looks.

Any chance of switching over to the Evo GTL next season. Unpredictable weather will open up another long line of excuses and arguments
which are the very life blood of our GTL.

Once again thanks

Mike Oilseal Cooper

Back marker for Team Oldie Racing (official position)

Congratulations for the championship Madd, well deserved.  :thumbup2:
Close fight on the top 5 finishers.
Lots of applauses to SBG and Psuedo for the hard work once more.  :-* (i loved all the track choices)
and to the all field of drivers, which allowed tons of fun and good times.  :notworthy:

TBH, didn´t expect to achieve the 3rd starting place. Start went well and i managed to stay in 3rd
with the front Panteras among Madd, SBG and Dan´s Capri. SBG had a missing braking point
at Indianapolis, after that i kept Madd in sight (i believe Madd was just controling the distance,
without pushing hard the car, great job)  :yes: and tried for almost 10 laps hold the second
place for Dan, we switch positions a few times tho, very close and fair driving.  :thumbup1:
Then, at Indianapolis, i was foccusing the brake signals on the right, had a fast look to the mirror,
but didn´t saw Dan  ??? engange the 2nd gear before the left corner and just when i was aiming
the car to the corner, i saw Dan spinning right in the front of my car at a high speed  :w00t: :eek:
(Dan, when you can, please see the replay by my car, it´s scaring mate)  :lol:
Unlucky Dan stayed there for a while and i began to care only about Madd.
Man, how i was having fun.  :)
Lap by lap i was shortning the gap to Madd (Pantera´s tires consuming i believe) from a 5 seconds gap,
to a 2,5 seconds. On lap 12 at Porsche curves, Madd ran wide and hit the wall, as i was solidary
with his misfortune, i did exactly the same and we hit each other, sorry mate, couldn´t avoid...
damn grass....lost my front splitter  :scared: a BMW without front splitter it´s almost worst
than a front wheel drive car.  :helpsmilie: so untill then i was doing 4.28 to 4.30 for each lap,
from then i began to do more 3-4 seconds. Pitted at the final lap 14, just refuelling i skipped
the tyre change and the repairs, next lap i realized that i had a 1.50 gap for the 2nd car,
so i drove carefully untill the end. last night i could drive there for hours, it really felt good.
I managed to setup the CSL well for my driving style. Lucky setup because i did it only at the
practice session.

Waiting for next season, thanks all.  :winkiss:

Cheers

Noooooooo! Only saw one cut warning all race!  :o

Ah well still a cracking race and a great finish to the best season yet for the green ones. Think Madd summed it up pretty well, right now we're lucky to have all the ingredients for some great Thursday evening racing week in week out....long may it continue and thanks organiser chaps, I'm sure it must be a chore but it's all for a worthy cause  ;D

Grats PR, great drive mate. Seeing your times here last season I thought I'd stick with the beemer to begin with but just couldn't get near you, impressive stuff. Well done Madd/ Martin, bringing Panteras home with everything pointing in the right direction deserves a medal so fair play.

A mixed bag with so much bad luck in the Prodigy camp, an engine blow out in the closing stages and pc probs galore but gotta say well done Tibs, nice finish and ten points for the post race shunt. Great race SBG, was nerve wracking at times but all good mate, loadsa fun and just enough room where needed  ;D

Now for the real fun, an Escort @ Paul Ricard  :blink:

First a big thanks to all the organisers for this season, the enduros aren't my thing but they're a great selection of tracks and 26 starters really shows what a great success it's been.

Congrats to Matt, really hope the result stands, we don't need stewards decisions deciding championships, eh?  ;)

Main thing I learnt last night was a pit stop takes less time than a, ahem, comfort break.  :D  Came back into the room to discover my Corvette crawling slowly down the outside wall of the pitlane accruing penalties for some reason!  :P  I'd left it in first when I left and it just idled down the pitlane, classic.  ;D

Apart from that a mixed race, first half superb, second half the usual too-tired-to-drive series of crashes.

Tried the powerful Vette and found it too understeery, and actually heavy-feeling, so went with the slow one, and just had the most perfect setup imaginable.  So stable, yet sharp turn in with controllable power overtseer on demand to help round those twisty bits, that was one of the most enjoyable cars I've ever driven, I could chuck it sideways into the corners with total confidence.  Cause it was so driveable I was able to keep pace with quicker cars, and had some awesome battles with MJ's Porsche (gutted to see it spin in the mirrors), Legzy and TT's Capris, and one or two others, fighting for 7/8th in a slow old car.  Thanks to all of you for the enjoyable racing.  :)

Finally about lap 9 concentration started failing, mindlessly followed TT off wide, first cut warning, exactly the same thing next lap, another warning, then final one with my wanderin' car in the pits so stop n go.  Took that and then the high speed crashes started, pitted for 2 mins of repairs around lap 13/14 then still trashed the car on my final lap, and limped home.

Gonna have to stay away from enduros, too much real life stress and disturbed sleep is not conjusive to concentrating for more than 40-50 minutes.   :(  Trouble is its like crack cocaine, want my fix no matter the comedown.   :P

Thanks Dave. And apologies to Oily again for being all over the place. Bizzare that the champs should be decided by both of us losing out this way but, as I said previously, either Matt or PR are worthy winners :)

Had lots of fun driving the mclaren, the sound engine was very nice, i thought the engine could blow up, but it didn´t.

Shame on the first lap incident, i could come closer to the front guys, but after droping almost to last i managed to get 6th place i think.

congrats to all, and keep gtl alive, now that it has so many new cars.

I was reviewing the replay last night and you really did get beaten up!
Bumped from behind, span, had to wait ages for about 10 cars to go through before turning in a large arc to rejoin as someone else hit you!

Nightmare!

Really enjoyed driving the big V8 Corvette and only span it once, on a straight? when I inadvertantly dropped it into 1st gear. Did a neat 360 then continued.
First time I'd ever driven the Corvette so toook it really steady eddy.
Was in 11th when on the penultimate lap I noticed as I approached the Porsche curves was that I was smoking. Tyres were ok and everything seemed fine but the engine gave up so wasn't able to finish. Then I got discoed.

Anyhow great season, loads of fun, the track/car selections were always a challenge and rightly so.

And the Prodigy cars are exactly the right colour thankyou!

That had more promise than i could give it sadly, but started 10th, finished 11th isnt too bad. I had some interesting scraps with various people interspersed with me going off. let me think, some early scraps with Legzy and Ade but sadly I just got caught out by your braking Legz which caused a few moments. Then TT appeared but then i fell off down the order and then found a group with Edam and SteveH Geoffers and Matt in but then found my self on my own which finally meant i was able to get the times down. Pitted about lap 10, took fuel and tyres and then after a few laps found myself back up around 8th infront of Legzy and surprised to find some the faster guys in the pits as i went by. But a few time i ended up downshifting too much which finally caused me to find the gravel and dropping me back then managed to get a stop-go (or is that stop, wait an age then go) but somehow wasnt passed in the pits and then tried to get to the finish.

Never driven the Capri for this kind of race so was a struggle at times and kinda wished i'd taken the 906 again! Surprisingly my PC held up this time so finally managed to finish a race :)

Well done to Oily for again showing he's an Alien-in-waiting and to all Prodigy runners, and bad luck to dynosaur who looked like he was going to be right up there.

Congrats to everyone who's made this what it is and to SBG, Psuedo, Dave and Picnic for all their dedication

So to put my and Pribeiro's minds at rest what are the final standings? Do the original results still stand?
I may be on a sticky wicket as my car isn't red  :P .

Perhaps (feel free to tell me to shut up for this...) the admins should check the laps oily got the cut warnings on. I know I got one (and a stop/go) when I had 4 wheels on the track at the exit to the final chicane on the main straight.

I was also a victim of some "iffy" cut detection but this section from rules is pretty unambiguous

"Under normal circumstances the simulation's internal cut detection will be relied upon to police the cutting of chicanes and other corners."

For me, that is the end of it.

There are incidents, if any are reported, to consider of course but you can prolly enjoy your victory now Matt  :) Congrats to you and PR for a great end to championship last might. At some point or another in the race all three of us had a chance to win it  :) Boy am I regretting getting the s/g.

Didn't see that bit before. I knew about how you're supposed to put a maximum of two wheels off the track, that's why I mentioned it. Makes sense though. :)

Cheers Tibs good idea but it's just one of those things you probably have to leave or it'll be a can of worms! I did have a look though and couldn't see anything sketchy. Lap 16 I blatantly understeered across the gravel at turn 1 but I know sometimes if you make a point of lifting it doesn't always give you a warning, and it didn't when it probably should have. Lap 17 looked clean to me and nothing showed in the car but you win some you lose some with those cut warnings!

Thankyou Ian, very gracious of you but also commiserations to losing out to a s/g (my pitstop monkeys  :2guns: cost me a 'true' 3rd ), I too had 2 cut track warnings so it could have been me instead.
If I'm able to compete in a GTL championship (enduro or sprint not bothered), I hope its as good as this one has been.

I too looked at the replay to put my mind at ease Oily, the only possible place was when Ian went wide at the second Mulsanne chicane and you just rode the rumble strip on the exit a tiny bit, this was where I got mine, its really strict there, almost too strict imo.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/steveh/LeMansGTLEnduro-2/)

If you can make sense of that gaps graph you're a hero!

most bizarre lapchart I have ever seen

Sincere thanks to the Organisers. - The replays being up minutes after the race finish is stunning
and the choice of cars and tracks has been inpired at times.

In practice in several cars, I had proved that I was just plain slow here, had no real idea how fast i could
take some corners, or exactly where I should brake. Probly should have taken the Capri, but fancied
the M1A, although to get it half stable I had it very understeery, so even slower in corners than
it was at Snetterton. I managed to get in lots of people's way, but had some fun tussles with
Edam/Spanner/Klose/Geoffers and a couple of others. Got punted off twice by people behind
being caught out by my slowness "I had no accidents officer, but there were a lot happening behind me"
Biggest off I had which REALLY peed me off was one of those annoying "Slowing to pit" "Leaving Pits"
messages which grabbed my attention for long enough that I forgot to brake, and stuffed the nose
into the fence at the hairpin. It was towards the race end, i had no chance of catching anyone, and
had no one close behind, but I really really wish people would not do it, though I appreciate it
is for the best of safety intentions, it is seriously off putting to me!

Not as dangerous though as following someone round closely that then...without notice...darts into the pit lane in front of you...generally putting both cars out.  ;)

It has to be expected and encouraged in enduro's...for safety as you say....unless you are anywhere near pit entry/exit...just ignore it.

The thing with those messages is, you take your eyes off the road to read the message, so instead of being more vigilant, you're actually not paying attention. And all the other drivers not close to the pitlane also suffer from the distraction.
I never liked those messages, they don't have that in real life as well  :P. It's up to the guy entering the pit to do it carefully, if he takes somebody out with that, than that's just an incident report coming, like with any other incident.

But surely you would only use the "pit in" message if you wanted to avoid having the guy that was following you closely, hitting you?

I know there are likely to be for and against here.
I am very aware that particularly at somewhere like Le Mans where you have to stay on the racing line
to pit, it can be useful to warn someone directly behind you that you are going to pit.
It's a shame the whole field has to be distracted while you do it. "Ignore it" is not a valid option IMHO
Personally I hate the messages. It does say in the regs that pit in message is encouraged, and
pit out is discouraged, so there you have it.

Had a fantastic race. Some really good nose to tail, position swapping racing from T1 till the last turn on the final lap.
Ade & Spanner early on, always had one of them filling my mirrors or me filling theirs... which was just brilliant :).
Then a while in the middle before & after my pitting with Steve (god I was nervous knowing I was driving up close with a Legend!)following his exhibition driving in the red Vette. Lovely to watch you drifting the back end round. 8)
Then had my most enjoyable 6 or 7 laps in racing so far with Geoffers (reliving/bettering our exchange from Watkins). Racing does not get any better then that. :fencing:

This rookie season for me has been an absolute treat. A massive thank you for everyone involved from organisers & testers, to drivers, to my Mrs who continues to grant me permission to take part  ;D

Congrats to anyone that finished a race, set a PB, got in the top ten, a podium, a win or was fighting for our league title!  :clap:

You sure you haven't just posted a graph showing the worlds economies there?

What software do you use to make those pages out of interest?

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=271013

Download the server replay which comes with a few text files. Open those files with this program and you're done. Easy peasy, lemon squeesy ;D.

Any change of putting the replay on-line again?

Forgot to download this awesome race   :-\

ps. there are some older races available. Don't know why  ???