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UKGPL Season 16 - Inter-league race - Mexico City

This is the eighth race in our Inter-League season, and will use the 67 cars.  Our guests will be the French league F1Legends, one of the biggest GPL leagues, still running several 67 divisions and certain to pose a serious test!  Their site- with much useful stuff in the updates section- is here: http://www.f1legends.ch/index.php (http://www.f1legends.ch/index.php).  This race will begin at 2000GMT  Each club is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team- after last race, be aware that you can only afford to be lapped twice!  Lets have a warm reception for the F1Legends drivers.

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 7:55 p.m, (You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Vroc and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server f1Legends3
IP address TBC

Race date = 11-1-2008
Time = 20:00
Track =  Mexico City
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 28 laps (complete 26 laps to score points as a finisher)

Chassis assignments: I've left this for the team captain to complete.  Note that this race will also be run with two Brabhams, since all four finished last time.
Lotus Clive
Eagle Clive
Ferrari Hristo
Brabham John
Brabham Will
Honda Phil
Cooper Gasper
Cooper Tim
BRM Ken

If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer.  These have been the points scored by the team so far:

John 66
Phil 61
Storm 49
Lorenzo 48
Hristo 47
Clive 42
Glyn 34
Will 26
Iestyn 17
Clive L 12
Mike W 11
Napo 11
Jack 11
Natan 10
Art 9

I'd like to race this one, in a Brabham, Ferrari, Honda or Cooper (in this order) preferably.

Count me in...need to practise my French apologies ;D  any chassis except Lotus and BRM  I guess.

Hmmm! The writing's on the wall (so to speak) with none less than J Alesi in the ranks they look to be a strong team .

pity it clashes with the CC bash or I might have been tempted to make the numbers up.

Good luck chaps

Go Get 'em   :)

 

You serious?  ???

sacre bleu!!! Mnsr Alesi... le professeur, ce n'est pas possible. Mais, il n'ya pas un Renault ou un turbo, peut etre il est "pants"?

I'm wary of promising anything for these Team Races as I can never be 100% sure of attendance, especially for these early starts. If you are desperate I'll see what I can do.

If y'all are hurtin' for numbers, I know a mediocre driver that might be available...I'll see if I can get him a permission slip.... 

....more sweet nothings in her ear, ........oh! and promise to buy her the new steam iron she always wanted ;)

Should get her something with less momentum if I were you.  LOL

Something light and fluffy perhaps.

a Cauliflower ?  go on spoil her  ;D

LMAO

She loves champaign... all I need to do is win a race before Jan 11th.  :o 

That could be arranged.  8)

Hee hee! Jack's already confused by this new year thing we've entered  ;D (what! you mean it isn't really 1969?!  :o)

8 could be slightly tricky for me, but if you're short on numbers I'm sure I can give it a whirl.
IIRC I've raced the Eagle and maybe the Fezza there offline in the dim and distant past - that doesn't necisarily mean I'll be quick in them or I'll even have a usable setup (used to race with an analogue gamepad back then  :-[) mind.
If you need me say and tell me what you've put me in - I don't really have a preference but suspect I may manage my traditional no finish if you put me in either of the boats  :ninja:

Don't like Mexico. Not totally sure I can make it as I have other sim racing commitments this Sunday.

I will be available very late, if i'll be there in time i'll drive any chassis.....

Cheers

Lorenzo

I'm available. Don't know what I'll drive (waiting for Clive to tell me, hehehehe).

Thanks Gasper- can you bring Clive with you?

I'd like to have the chassis allocated as soon as we're able to- Tim, would you be okay with a Cooper?  Lorenzo, how much later would the start have to be, before you'd be certain to make it?  Storm- if you're not that keen on Mexico, will you still be able to reserve?

Any clue as to which set of wheels I might be required to dismember on the polos???

Cooper should be fine, I haven't spent much time in them but seem to remember they're quite driver friendly  :)

Okay, that's enough for a team!  Allocations on the first post of the thread as usual. Lorenzo gets the Lotus for being late- I'm sure we could negotiate 5 mins or more extra practice if it'll help!  Everyone okay?

I'm sorry guys, I DIDN'T realize the start will be at 20.00 gmt, i thought at 21.00, so i 'll not be able to make it definately...

Cheers

Lorenzo

I'm in negotiations at the minute.  Might be able to make it.

And the Lotus would suit me just fine.   ;D  My one and only weakness!   ::)

And I like Mexico.

Thanks Clive, I've amended the first post.

We'd still like more volunteers for this race, with a couple of our drivers not 100%- and Will still in contention for the Clubman's Cup this season, if he can be spared...  Iestyn, Neil?

 Jack, not had a reply from our WC contenders so you'd better count me in, any chassis. 

At a push, I can pick a random setup, plug the wheel in, do some quick practice in any car, and make the race. No guarantees on my connection though, as I won't be able to try it until Saturday night when I get back there (currently home for hols). I'll report back in the wee hours Sunday or Sunday morning/afternoon as to definitive connection guarantees.

Well, I'm averaging mid to low 1:51's on a race setup that seems capable of getting me to the end - Can get into the 1:50's if I really push but don't think I'll go that far, it'd be nice to actually finish one these interleague races  ::)

No idea how that stacks up really as it's been yonks since I sat in a '67....

I'm not sure how I did it but I just set my Mex. PB in the Brab.  :o

Just hope I can find the same magic tomorrow.  8)

GLA,

Will

Unfortunately I'm even less likely to make this one now guys. We have some visitors calling later and I may not be able to move them on in time for 8.00pm!!!

Thanks for keeping us advised Ken- we are still hoping for more volunteers, it's a 2000GMT start.

However I haven't had any emails from my contact at F1Legends since Monday, which has me concerned- if there has been a problem with email, can one of the F1Legends drivers get in touch, in chat if that's more convenient?

Hope Napo turns up, he's a BRM specialist ;)

I've updated the race details, it'll be F1Legends3 on Vroc, and also available on GPL-TV.  The password won't be the one that was up, I'll post it at race time.

That's a relief, thanks Jean!

Don't know why I bother with these, Saw an accident ahead at the exit to the chicane so slowed slightly more than normal to avoid re-ending Will who was slowing similarily - only to get re-ended myself and flipped by one of the other team :censored:
I really am beginning to think it's a waste of my time taking part in these races, as it would appear that I'm jinxed to NEVER finish one  >:(

Don't give up FMG!! I made it to 22 laps and turned my Eagle into a bicycle!!

To be honest I had been fighting the setup all weekend but was at least running up towards the front.

I got a great start and gained about 4 place slotting in between Clive L and Ken Murray before T1 I knew I would struggle so figured I'd let Ken pass on the straight and ride shotgun in 5th or 6th th spot.

This worked well for the next 10 laps or so then the setup bit me and a spin dropped me one place. I was still running in 5th and with quite a healthy gap so I figured, that was as good as it gets.

A second spin lost me 5th only for the guy who gained a place to spin himself on the next corner and give it back again  :O) merci!

All was going well until Hristo appeared on prib in "lapping mode" .

I saw him in my mirrors exiting the hairpin, but lost sight of him in the bumpy esses. I could hear his Fez and was sure he would take the inside line along the little straight.....suddenly I realise he is on the ruddy outside!!!! just as he jinks back in behind me. In my efforts to ensure I did not take out the race leader I stayed wide...too wide and scraped two lovely wheels off on the armco!!!

I should have kept a better eye on Hristo in my mirrors, but when you are up to your neck in crocodiles.........

After a black screen and a 10min reboot, I finally got into the game. As Tim mentioned, I slowed to avoid a few flying cars and suddenly he was gone. Don't give up Tim, it gets better, I was so eager to try and pass a Coop I'd been chasing for a good 20 laps, I gave her more revs that she could handle and it was all over in an instant. I seriously had a marvelous time. I too always get nervous when I see H coming up, but I got lucky as he approached in a favorable location. LOL

Sorry mates, I got a bit greedy and paid the price. If I get invited next time, I shall try better. (Have I already said that)  :laugh:

Thanks again to Dave for setting this up. And F1 Legends, a very nice bunch.

Grats to the podium and all who finished.

Crashed and burned.

Will

Made it in the end. Pleasantly surprised to be given a Brabham in place of a BRM. Happy with 7th on the grid, although the French team did seem to edge it at the front of the grid. I dropped a place to Clive at the start but as he has already reported he kindly gave it back at the start of the second lap. Then with the first lap incidents and a few drop outs I soon found myself running 3rd. After I lost Clive riding shotgun I had to keep an eye on yoel in his Lotus but I managed to maintain the gap throughout to take the last podium position. Shame we didn't have many finishers but I have to say I was lucky to survive a couple of brushes with the armco at T1 during the race.

I wasn't ready for this race. Not at all. I was too nervous in qualifying and couldn't focus at all nor calm down. Especially when Martin did a very quick time in the Eagle I kept overdriving and missing my lines and braking points all the time.  :(

There were some problems with the opposition, some behaved quite badly. One of the Jeans was running infront of me, went wide, hit the wall and obviously his lap was ruined. He moved over to free up the ideal line but as soon as he saw me in his mirrors he moved back infront to block me, so I just rearended him in anger.  ::)

Anyway, I managed to take 2nd behind Martin and had a good start thus closing up on him towards T1, but braked a bit too late and went wide so he managed to open a slight gap. Unexpectedly though he wasn't pulling away and I could easily close up on him and attempt a pass in T1 after a proper slipstream on the s/f straight, but I braked too late again and hit the armco. By the time I managed to free myself from the glue effect he had regained 1st place and opened up more than a second gap and I thought it's all over.

But again he was much slower and I caught up with him and attempted another pass into T1 but this time we entered it side by side and although I tried my best to keep the inside line I slid a bit wide and either Martin decided to go straight to avoid me or I touched him and sent him there. Regardless, I slowed down to let him back into 1st because I felt it was my fault at the time. Obviously he didn't have the speed though and eventually he went wide and into the armco in T1 on one of the next laps so I took the lead and lost sight of him very quickly. I saw he retired in a few laps, so that pretty much decided it.

It wasn't before half distance that I could finally focus well and calm down, so my driving improved and I just settled into a rythm. Apart from a few mistakes on my own due to overheated tyres, I managed to do some clean fast laps, especially the last 2.

I have to say some words about backmarkers - they were TERRIBLE!  >:( I don't know who was who, but more than half of the cars I passed gave me a hard time, on purpose or not. I sure had many opportunities to use the "raise hand" button to show them the finger and so I did!  :D

After the race I saw the mechanical report from RA and for some reason Martin got a medium damage in his left front on lap 1, so that probably explains his lack of speed thereafter. Otherwise I don't think I stood a chance, not in the mental condition I was anyway.

It was a shame to see so many of our team retire, I was keeping an eye on the system messages. Congrats to Ken for his 3rd place and to Natan and Phil for being our only other finishers to score points.

-=Hristo=-

Sorry team, I blew it.

Qualified 5th and lost a place off the line to a Brab, I think.  Just took it easy and gained some places when the Brab nudged their Lotus out of the way at T4 and then got himself cross-threaded at the start of the Esses.

That meant that I was in a comfortable 4th and I could see a couple of Ferraris and a something ahead.  They were in a bit of a battle so were not pulling away much, if at all.  My pit board told me that it was the enemy Ferrari ahead so I decided to have a go.

Then going down into the hairpin it appeared that the two Ferraris were quite close together.  By the time I had assured myself that they were not going to bung the track up I found myself heading for the Armco.  I thought that I was going to be able to glance off but no.  I caught the leading edge and took my left front clean off.


Bugger, bugger, bugger, bugger..................................bugger!

Jack Seller wrote:

http://www.f1legends.ch/download/F1Legends_UKGPL.zip

Thanks Jack.

Congratulations to F1Legends, and also to Hristo for another impressive win.  Thanks to Jean for organising and hosting the race from the F1Legends side, and to Jack Seller for the replay link.

UKGPL 1st, 3rd (good race Ken!), 9th and 10th= 18+16+10+9=53pts

F1Legends 2nd (wd Bertrand), 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 11th= 17+15+14+13+12+11+8=  an 'impressive' 90pts, with seven finishers- one more point than ADC!

Despite the final result and though we were edged on the grid, this was very close for much of the race while UKGPL still had six runners and an advantage in terms of position, so we weren't outmatched.  If it's any consolation Will, I suspect we may have been down by a single point before your engine went, so at least the pass would have made a difference!  The rematch has been provisionally set for May 31st, I hope it's as well-received as this one! 

Thanks to Natan for turning out at short notice, another useful points scoring run, this time with the BRM.  I'd also like Tim and Gasper to get points for us this season- and Clive to return to solve our Lotus problem!   Leffa was briefly in contention for the last slot after John had to miss out and I'd hope to see him in UKGPL colours at some point, as well as Jethro if he has his connection sorted. 

Having mentioned team colours, we're hoping to experiment with colours in our next race with GP Fun on the 25th, and we've been asked what colours we'd like- any opinions?

Is that helmet colours or car skin colours??

If it works it'll be car colours, with the colours applied to one of a selection of simple liveries, nose band, stripe etc.

However the method used may be tricky, it depends on organising a join order to the server, but I reckon we should try it anyway.

and we will all have to install the files beforehand!! I am comfortable to mess with my GPL install but I think some may be wary. It's not like more modern sims where custom files can be added to the base install without overwriting. To get custom skins in GPL you will need to overwrite the existing car skins. Easy enough to copy and backup the existing car folders though.

That seems to work OK for helmet colours, but for liveries, won't that just apply it for all cars?

Someone will have to make custom files for all cars with all numbers eg bra1.mip, bra2.mip etc etc

Unless they only make specific numbered cars for each manufacturer. So if you use the brabham you have to be number 1, then you would only need to make a bra1.mip. As Jack mentioned then we would need to join the server in specific order to get that to work.

The wife woke me up last night and said I was talking in my sleep...saying something like "I could've passed that dude".

I'll get him next time.  ;D

W

I'm lucky there's no wife to hear whatever I mumble in my sleep.  :D

Though we will have to add some files, it shouldn't affect the rest of your GPL install, as we'll be running on the GPFun server which is set up for liveries:

"That's not the way it works. GPL uses skins with number 1 to 22 ; we use numbers above those so that the customized skins are displayed only on our server, set up to use "customized numbers". Of course, backing up the "cars" directory is always a good idea :) . The only thing one must be careful about is that the car version must match the "skin version". That is to say that if you have a skin for the Ferrari v48 you must use the Ferrari v48, not the v36."

We've gone for BRM racing green and black and silver as the team colours, a combination of old and new.  The base livery is the No.21 in this set: http://stex68.altervista.org/GPfun-Carset.htm (http://stex68.altervista.org/GPfun-Carset.htm)

When we've finalised the race details I'll begin another thread.

Very clever. :)

I like the Mansell "Red 5""!! :)

Hi everybody,
here you have your new skins. Hope you like them !

Bye
Stex68

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Brabham_BT24_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Brm_P115_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Cooper_T81_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Eagle_AAR104_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Ferrari_312_48v_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Honda_RA300_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/Lotus_49_UKGPL.jpg)

(http://www.stex68.altervista.org/Download/UKGPL_Helmet.jpg)