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Title: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 05, 2009, 10:51:09 AM +0000
An extension of Season 8.9 to test the new GTC cars against the existing cars and each other.

Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:25(15 mins)
Race:20:40(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: Any GTC from the v2.8.9.2 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Weather: dry.
Track: Estoril
In-Game Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stops.

Server: UKGTR 8.9
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
  • Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
  • You will not be able to join the server without v2.8.9.2 of the UKGTR car pack (see download links above).
    You will not see skins correctly without the optional, matching GTC skins pack.
  • Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
  • Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: lazlow on January 05, 2009, 12:11:54 PM +0000
Think I might use the beamer again  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 05, 2009, 01:42:47 PM +0000
F430GTC for me all the way.  :)

TT

Edit: can we get the Estoril track, please?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: spanner on January 05, 2009, 08:44:37 PM +0000
Hmm.. not alot of time to practise and not track on server, is this a ploy? I can see i'll be using the race as a test session. Seem to be around 41.5 with race fuel after literally a couple of laps in the porka.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 05, 2009, 08:49:56 PM +0000
Spanner, Legzy? What was the message when you couldn't join my server?  :(

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Legzy on January 05, 2009, 08:56:35 PM +0000
Spanner, Legzy? What was the message when you couldn't join my server?  :(

'Booted as possible cheat'


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: spanner on January 05, 2009, 09:15:19 PM +0000
Same here, though it tells you after its loaded the track and the cars! strange.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Busi on January 06, 2009, 06:17:11 PM +0000
Doing 1:41.0 on race trim in the Gillet, let's see if it can be competitive in this faster circuit


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 06, 2009, 07:46:11 PM +0000
Is there a particular car that is being underused and needs someone to take?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 06, 2009, 07:50:42 PM +0000
Is there a particular car that is being underused and needs someone to take?

I'll be taking the Aston again - I think I was the only one in either race on Sunday.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Prof on January 06, 2009, 09:04:39 PM +0000
Was enjoying that...

I had a good battle with the 'Sunny' Z4 and had just got past when with no warning I found myself back in my garage.

100% DNF with technical problems since I bought the G25  :(

Hope everyone had fun.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Busi on January 06, 2009, 09:25:57 PM +0000
ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 :censored:

another PC restart with that damn blue screen! I hope my frozen car didn't get in anybody's way, although I'm affraid Lazlow was right behind me and will have been scared lol sorry :( >:( :cursing:

I started on pole but saw Evert braking very late into T1 so decided not to turn to avoid the crash and retake the lead at the exit.

But later on I lost the place to him and TT and MJ also got passed me. Then MJ made a mistake and I was chasing the two leaders. What a great fight between the three of us! very very good one ;D

Then I spun exiting the chicane and was right ahead of Lazlow, still 3rd though. Then the stupid problem and good night. DAMNIT!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see if TT managed to pass Evert ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: JPS on January 06, 2009, 09:36:20 PM +0000
That was good fun...looks like I may have solved my internet issues :)

Great battle Jan 8) you pushed me all the way to the end, one slip-up and my position was yours :fencing:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 06, 2009, 09:38:20 PM +0000
That was fun, but the Aston is a bit unmatched at the moment. It's "ok" in the corners and very good on the brakes, but on the straights it was like treading water. It's also high fuel consumption and tyre wear so it's not competitive for Endurance either. Hopefully the "chief modding dudes" ;) can sort some of those issues out, otherwise I think we should drop it from GTC, as we have enough cars anyway I feel in GTC.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: psuedo on January 06, 2009, 09:44:49 PM +0000
Quote
Hopefully the "chief modding dudes"  can sort some of those issues out,

DONE.....we let FreQ and Ruskus drive it....problem solved  :angel: :laugh:

It will be looked at...maybe the engine limiter is set a liitle high.

Good race that...I had zero practice and very very little knowledge of Estoril....appologies to anyone I impeded during praccy or qually.
Valencia next (yuck), maybe I will get some track time before then and become semi-competetive again.

Grats to podies.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: picnic on January 06, 2009, 09:46:52 PM +0000
Replay and Provisional Results are available for your delectation :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: lazlow on January 06, 2009, 09:48:53 PM +0000
That was such a buzz!!!!!
Managed to win it from middle of the grid  :w00t:

I hope my frozen car didn't get in anybody's way, although I'm afraid Lazlow was right behind me and will have been scared lol sorry :( >:( :cursing:
You sure did scare the trout out of me Busi...I thought I had hit you :scared:

Excellent close quarter driving especially when TT, Evert and myself were 3 a breast going down the straight....Awesome!!!!

Great racing everyone  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: spanner on January 06, 2009, 09:58:17 PM +0000
Enjoyable race that one, for once ;D

Started a surprising 6th, felt strange being able to see the front of the grid ;) But after a few laps Lazlow got by me and then it was a lonely drive to the end with a huge gap behind and MJ/ API teasing me a few secs infront. Just couldn't pick the pace up further to join you guys, but only finished 10 secs of the lead, how the hell did that happen :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Mark J on January 06, 2009, 10:59:21 PM +0000
that was a great race, action all the way from lights to flag  8)

Qualied 4th, just not quite matching my better laptime pace but pleased all the same lined up behind teamie TT.  :)

Enjoyed a great race early on staying with the front 3 for about 15 minutes, then getting upto 3rd for a while when Busi ran wide. But he pressured me quite a bit and just as i was starting to eek a couple of tenths out, i got out of shape at the Parabolica Interior, allowing Busi and API past me. :'( Then to add insult to injury a charging Lazlow took me at the end of the s/f straight with some very late braking  :o relegating me to 6th  :(
I then spent about 10-15 mins chasing him and API in their Z4s without making much difference until their fighting allowed me to close.

Eventually i closed on API and put him under severe pressure for lap after lap. :fencing: It seemed like i was quicker than him all around the circuit except in the final sector from that bugger of an uphill chicane (a porsches nightmare at this track), through that final wide sweeper onto the s/f straight, i just couldnt get near him there and the z4 left me for dead down the straight. But i was able to brake much later than him and closed every lap until the sequence was repeated over and over  :surrender:
Finally API put a foot wrong in turn 3 and i was able to sneak up the inside and use the porkers exit traction to get my nose in front and there it stayed until the flag despite some more counter-attacking from his beemer. It had been a fantastic race fight, really good fun and i was very chuffed to get my place back for 4th after such a long battle. :sweatdrop:
I closed right up on the squabbling TT and Evert with only a few laps remaining, but again, just could not live with them in the final sector, the Porsche really struggling for grip through there compared to the z4 and Fezza  ???

Was very pleased with 4th place and 4th fastest race lap and a good result for the legends with cars in 3rd,4th and 7th?  :thumbup1:

Congrats to Lazlow (storming drive), Evert and TT for the podium.  8)

ps, i edited the .aud files for the z4 and Vertigo and had no problems tonight with excessive engine sounds from them. A simple fix for anyone still suffering.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2009, 07:23:52 AM +0000
Should've been on for 9th or 10th there but the power oversteer caught me out a few times and spat me off. Clearly more setup work is needed.

Still not sure whether there's a problem with the Aston's engine characteristics or whether the aerodynamics are to blame for its lack of top end power. I drove a few laps in the middle of the race short shifting and it didn't seem to have a lot of effect on my pace so I suspect the former.

ps, i edited the .aud files for the z4 and Vertigo and had no problems tonight with excessive engine sounds from them. A simple fix for anyone still suffering.

MJ, can you send the lines you've changed to me - or post them here. It'll save me hunting for exactly what to change.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 07, 2009, 08:04:58 AM +0000
No, Busi, I didn't overtake Evert. Got overtaken by Lazlow instead.  ::)

Great, tense racing for the whole time. First part a trio with Evert and Busi, then with Evert and towards the end again a trio with Everts and Lazlow. Great stuff, close - though sometimes a bit too close. Had to back off a few times, Evert, I would have spinned you if I didn't. You were squeezing me a bit. As it was a fun race, I won't tell my wife about that. ;)    Not being overly critical, you had a great pace in that Z4 and even this long s/f straight was not long enough to get by. I see it as a big progress and I'm looking forward to close racing in the Championship.  8)
Grats Lazlow, I'm glad you found your pace.  :)

At the end: good show of the Legends Racing Team. 3rd, 4th and 7th.  8)
Again - good work, modding Elves.  :-*

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: picnic on January 07, 2009, 08:14:15 AM +0000
My first race since well before Christmas, had a hoot in the Spyker but with my limited abilities it's hard to keep pointing even remotely in the right direction for 40 mins :( I couldn't get a sensible set of gear ratios either, first was either too short or too long for the nasty uphill chicane thing, and with only 5 gears I struggled to keep up with the Aston's initially on the straights but by the end I still had a few revs spare and could keep accelerating to the braking points. Running 7 wing on the back too, don't know if that helped?

Threw away too many places by having a few half spins and one final place after trying to procreate with a barrier  :-[ Still enjoyed the sideways fun the Spyker seems to exhibit :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: lazlow on January 07, 2009, 09:38:21 AM +0000
I had a look over the replay last night and I noticed that I tapped you a few times going into T1, TT,  :-[ sorry, I hope I didn't damage your vehicle....I guess I got carried away in the moment. :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: evert blommert on January 07, 2009, 09:54:08 AM +0000
Great move Lazlow, I thought I had the inside covered, but you proved me wrong.
I move for a different colour scheme for the 430. TT's white Ferrari looked huge in my mirror 40 minutes long.
Was fun though keeping TT at bay even if it took more squeezing than he get's from his wife ( or was it the other way around)

See you at Valencia.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 07, 2009, 09:57:51 AM +0000
Healthy shoving keeps me alert.  ;)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Legzy on January 07, 2009, 11:38:24 AM +0000
Enjoyed my race in the F430. Nice drive, but other cars seemed to pull away/catch me on the straight (but as TT didn't seem to have that problem it must be me).
Despite my setup efforts to make the car faster yet safe under braking, I still lost it twice... once at the end of the straight which was just stupid on my part ::), but the other was a total shock (at about lap 4) & I ended up hitting a wall then rebounding onto the track... Sorry to the car following that couldn't avoid me.
Had some good fun chasing Smokey for a good while, managed to get past on about the third attempt I think. But consider myself lucky to have made up picnic's place on the last lap... while like a randy dog humping its owners leg, his Spyker obviously just couldn't fight the urge any longer & started humping the barrier on the final bend. :lol: Sorry mate.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 07, 2009, 02:30:23 PM +0000
Enjoyed my race in the F430. Nice drive, but other cars seemed to pull away/catch me on the straight (but as TT didn't seem to have that problem it must be me).

The key is to set the car to floor it in the last corner as soon as possible. :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Legzy on January 07, 2009, 02:48:22 PM +0000
Yeah, I was playing with 'when to floor it' for that last bend on each lap... did it too early a couple of times & just about escaped running off  ;D.
I wonder if it was my wing settings were too high? :-\ I had 2-6 to keep me as steady as possible for the rest of the track. If I'd had some time to do some better prep for the race I might have been able to lower that a notch. I'd lowered it from 2-9 for Oschersleben already.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Truetom on January 07, 2009, 03:02:01 PM +0000
I set my rear springs a bit tighter and it was ok. Wing was 2-8.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Legzy on January 07, 2009, 03:04:42 PM +0000
Wing was 2-8.
OK, was definitely me then. Confidence destroyed, cheers TT  ;) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: spanner on January 07, 2009, 07:10:20 PM +0000
We're not going to be in same situation where the old GTC cars are going to be retired because the newer ones are faster?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: psuedo on January 07, 2009, 07:27:31 PM +0000
The new ones are generally not faster....with these tests and the extra info we get they will be reasonably balanced so the old cars will still be competetive. I will probably be sticking with the old 360 anyway.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Tibernius on January 07, 2009, 09:11:42 PM +0000
The new ones are generally not faster....with these tests and the extra info we get they will be reasonably balanced so the old cars will still be competetive. I will probably be sticking with the old 360 anyway.

I've found I'm faster with the TVR than any of the new cars. When I can get the bloody game to work. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: spanner on January 07, 2009, 09:21:42 PM +0000
Have you checked your router logs to see if there is any issues recorded there Tibs? Strange its happening so often and cant believe its the PC.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9 - Estoril (GP) - Jan 6
Post by: Tibernius on January 07, 2009, 10:34:47 PM +0000
It's only happening with GTR2 so I think it's something wrong with the install. It's never worked properly on this PC online.