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An extension of Season 8.9 to test the new GTC cars against the existing cars and each other.

Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: Any GTC from the v2.8.9.2 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#msg76901))
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Valencia GP
In-Game Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stops.

Server: UKGTR 8.9
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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Well i'll start off then, just done a few laps around here mainly to test the sounds(cheers MJ) and with a race setup i'm around a 37.5 so far. Now where near even the GT3 times! Though looking back to one of my first few races here it beats my best race time of 39.7. I'm improving!

1:35.8 qually spec for me so far but still working on my setup. Could do with some other laptimes posted to see if i am on target or not  :-\

Seems i am on similar pace to Spanner in race spec, 1:36s & 1:37s.

pretty much the same for me in the 997  ::)

P'ah...call yourself a racing driver !  ;)  ;D

although of course, looked from another angle, could just mean me and Spanner should be racing drivers  :laugh:

LOL nice idea Mark. Sounds Just like an Iracing/GT5 competition,We could have been in dubai..... :sleep1: err was i dreaming ;D

I think going without a fuel stop might be pushing it and have too much of an impact around here with all the corners. Might be nice to try though, tyres would never make it for me!


I can still picture all those Porkas at the Autosport show, luuverly :drool:

I wonder if a kind person could help me? I'm happy with my car setup for the whole track except, I'm having problems controlling the car while slowing on the bend for the last corner (leading onto the home straight). It seems to be a bit bumpy & unless I break in a perfect straight line, my back end wants to overtake the front. As I said, it's cool for the rest of the track & if anything, too safe already.

Do I have any options other then shifting brake balance forward & diff coast up please? ???

Legsy, this usually comes with a bit of trial and error and experience, but the way I normally keep a car stable on dodgey corner entries is to use a bit of throttle as well as brake. It can be a bit strange at first but if you feel the car sliding sideways, coming off the brake a bit can help straighten things out. The last corner is tough and it's best to start braking towards the middle of the track and drift out to the right before coming off the brake and turning into the apex on the left.

You could also try softening the rear suspension a little or adding more rear wing if you need the confidence, although this will likely slow you round the rest of the lap. The back will go light on that corner entry even on a well set up car though.

Hope that helps.

I'm also unlikely to be in this race. Got a few friends to ring and chilling out  8)

What a nightmare!!

Quallied 4th with a pb....thats the only thing that went right.  ::)

first lap I went for 3rd and got past Legzy under braking into 10....only for the rear to lose traction (cold tyres and temps offline  ::)) and did a 360. sorry for any probs caused to those behind.
I then had to wait for the whole field to pass before rejoining. Well, I thought the whole field had passed but as soon as I got back to the tarmac, Picnic came round the corner and had nowhere else to go but up my tailpipe.   sorry Picnic....never saw or heard you coming ???
I tried a lap but the back end was everywhere, so pitted for repairs but wasnt prepared to wait 50+ seconds  :'(.
Came back out but too close to the front runners and pulled off to once again let the field through....then lost heart, will power, Umphhhh. so quit out.

It can only get better from here.

Tried the Exige as no one else wants to. Well the good news is that it's reasonably quick. Even on 6 wing it couldn't quite keep with the Z4s but it made a reasonable attempt at it and in terms of straight line speed not sure it needs much extra. The problem with the Exige is the same as the Elise only worse. It has horrendous snap at any time. After spinning every lap in qually for 20 minutes I changed the diffs to 0% power and 100% coast and that allowed me to get round a lap. I discovered that I was mid-pack with just a couple of flying laps under my belt. Made some more minor tweaks for the race, but I forgot to change the engine vent. Didn't realise until a few laps in when my engine started going in the red. There is stayed for my entire race and engine damage was ZERO. After I worked out it wasn't hurting the engine I simply revved as normal after short shifting for a while. I guess the engine file or car file for the Exige needs looking at to rectify that?

I managed about 30 minutes in the race without spinning, but my tyres were in the red the whole time and the car was really not easy to hang on to. Eventually it got the better of me and that was it. It just kept snapping from that moment on and I couldn't go a lap or two without spinning. Decided to stop for tyres as soon as 40 minutes came up and put on mediums at the back to try and keep the temps down. Was dead last and lap down by then of course, but I thought I'd see what the tyres did for me. Well they were good as I dipped into the 1:36s for the first time, but only a few laps later car started to snap uncontrollably again and when it happened twice in a row I just couldn't be bothered any more.

The Exige has pace, but it's undriveable with it's almost random snappyness, so I won't be touching it again. *spit*.

:lol: I wish! I don't do the dizzy heights of 3rd :lol: You probably meant Lazlow  ;)

I found that at Oschersleben with the Exige & commented about how many times it span me. (The Spyker is also a handful like that)


Had a good race tonight, had a change of cars again, this time I thought I'd have a go with the Z4. Nice.
Drove well the whole race, ran a little wide a couple of times when people were up my rear, letting them through  ::) but otherwise no incidents (except only one spin at the final turn... cheers FreQ).
Think I was running about 10th with 3 laps to go, when I ran out of fuel for the 1st time ever  >:( >:( >:(

Disappointed with myself for that, but what happened to the pit crew warning me on the radio?  ??? I'll be sacking the lot of them 1st thing Monday.

Congrats to podium & cheers to everyone I traded places with, good driving guys.

Crazy race - started third from last, knew I was going to need lots of fuel, but at least my tyre wear was okay. Pace didn't seem too bad in the race, although everything was flying past me on the main straight. Lots of good fights with Porsches et al.

With the low tyre wear I decided to stay out and see just how far 100 litres would go - the answer was about 60 minutes, but the car got progressively worse on worn mediums and I got caught out in the tricky braking for the final corner a couple of times.

As everyone else pitted I gradually worked my way up the order and ran as high as 4th, but eventually I had to pit; took on as little fuel as I thought I could get away with and softs and came out to find I'd dropped back to about 14th. Legzy's Z4M ahead wasn't really pulling away so I knuckled down to try and catch him and slowly the gap came down. Was sad when he flashed me by and retired - fuel? Slowed down and let MJ past to see if Legzy would catch up again but he escaped to the pits and I set off again - only to find half the Porsches in the race were splashing and dashing (or just parking!) and climbed to a totally undeserved 8th!

I still think I haven't figured out how to drive the Aston - especially how early to shift and how to set the gear ratios up. It's not going to win any sprints but it might become more viable in endurance, even with its terrible fuel consumption.

Great Race ;D

I love the ViperCC now that you can actually drive it. It is so much fun I have spent hardly any time in the other cars yet. ::)

I had API all over me for the first 40 mins of the race, such hard work to stay consistant :sweatdrop: great driving from API, very mistake free so he was always rite behind me, then he seemed to loose allot of time some where around the pit stops. What happened?

I was not going to hang around to find out as I would need a long pit stop. ;)

I almost did not make it to the end as I almost ran out of fuel (again) and my engine health was in the low 70s for the last 40 mins of the race,  :D

Luckily it turned out that I was not much slower when shifting sooner. The Viper can not handle a 80 min race with the revs on max, LOL. Even if you up shift before the red. But luckily the short shifting saved fuel as well. I would have run out other wise. ;D

Well done TT and MJ, see you next time. :)

I am annoyed that I mucked up my pitstop again (didn't take on enough fuel) dropping me from 3rd to 7th!!! :taz:
Apart from that I had a steady race.

A couple of stupid mistakes ruined that for me which meant i was chasing my tail all race, that was the hardest 80 mins driving i have ever done!
Managed my fastest ever lap in qual but that still was only good enough for 10th! Ahh, those pesky Z4's ;)
I think i touched Lazlow which let a couple of people through but i knew i could keep with them, but on the next lap i just caught the curb badly on that right-hander after the first time split, over corrected and spun int othe gravel >:( After realising 1st gear was a bit too long i by the time i got out i was last which then started a fight back. I'm sorry to you guys if it was too aggressive, and i think we touched JPV?  I'd just got past Dave then Legzy when I pitted and got caught for speeding (wish there was an actual line to aim for) which then meant they held me for about 15 secs next time which dropped me back last again. So i try again but theres a large gap ahead but i still push till the end, which meant i caught JPS who was actually a lap ahead but needed to get past,sorry about that but you were holding me up! Then, i the last few laps it seemed the guys ahead were finally pitting which meant i had busy few laps where i caught jpv again and thought i could catch the next one but never made it in time after a mistake by me.

I think with mainly Z4's and porsche's on the grip i'll try the aston next time, i've nothing to prove in the porsche ;) Its one of the few cars it seems i can drive.

What a race!

First of all, the qualifying went well. I set my PB and I achieved my best qualifying position ever! The difference to H@l was only 0.036 seconds or something! So close but so far.  ;)

The race started well. I managed to keep the gap to H@l in only few secs. Then it was time to pit. I had problems with ignition/starter thingy so I lost time about 30 secs  :-[. When I came back to track, I was 9th or something. I managed to climb up to 5th place after guys in front of me pitted. That situation lasted until Lazlow pitted for some reason  ???. Because of that, I finished 4th place. I'm quite happy about the result even though the problems in pit were totally my own fault.  :-\

Well done H@l, TT and MJ!  8)

Edit. Oh, bad luck Lazlow  :(

Legzy, for the braking into the final turn (Too late now, but maybe for Thurs..) brake/downshift before and after
not on the brow, not sure that's what the Aliens do, but works for me.
I had some fun, I was more on the pace than usual, messed up my race with an 80 sec pitstop, i really
need to practice them :-[

That was a cracking race from start to finish, a proper endurance event even though it felt like an 80 minute sprint for me with all that close no-prisoners racing action  :o

Got in late from a tasty Tapas restaurant (ironically !) and had to hit the ground running during qually. First few laps were well off the pace (about 2 secs slower than my PBs) and despite creeping into the 36's was down in a lowly 14th.  :( I was 0.6 up on one of my last flying laps and got stuck behind a blinking Z4 in the final 2 corners and cost me all my hard earned 10ths  :(

The low qually slot put me a little out of place pace wise on the grid as i knew i had my Race setup honed well to run in low-mid 36's.
That put me in the middle of a fierce battle from the green lights with Matts Viper ahead and Profs Z4/Jans Fezza behind me. Had some great battles with Matt first off though some slightly rough chopping nearly ended in disaster and then cost me a slot to one of the guys behind as i once more had to slam on the anchors to avoid contact  :no: , still, no harm done.  ;)
From then on it was a battle royale with Profs z4 and Jans F430 as the 3 of us had one hell of a ding dong for about 30-40 minutes with no let up whatsoever :fencing: We swapped places several times and ran side by side or bumper to bumper for lap after lap. Great clean racing action gents  :thumbup1:
I seemed quicker than Profs Z4 around a lap as was all over him until we reached the straights, then his Z4 would just blast away and leave me standing  :( which meant for lap after lap i couldnt get by him. Eventually him and Jan touched, dropping Jan back and then Prof pitted later and i set about trying to get some quick laps in to create a breathing space...it seemed to work a treat  :)
My tyres held out really well as i had the car well balanced tyre wear wise and i kept an eye out for the weather changing before i decided to pit. I came in whilst running 3rd or 4th? with half hour to go, as others up front had pitted before me, put soft fronts on and set about doing my fastest laps of the race with my lower fuel load.
With 10 mins to go i started to worry about my remaining fuel and began short-shifting as i had built up a 17 second lead over the 4th place guy behind me (API) and was about 20 odd secs behind 2nd, so just had to keep it clean and cruise as much as possible.
I really started to panic when i saw JPS pull over onto the verge out of fuel as i knew he had used my setup (or similar) and then my mouth went dry as i crossed the line only to find i still had one more lap to go  :sweatdrop:
Thankfully the short-shifting worked and i was very pleased with myself to cross the line with a measly 3 litres left  :o
Very chuffed to bag a podium, i felt like i drove a proper enduro, quick when i needed to be, cautious when required, no mistakes and added to a dose of racing luck with Lazlow having to make another stop, got the 3rd place  :)

Another great legends result with TT 2nd and my 3rd  :thumbup2:
Congrats also to H@L for his fine win and everyone else for great close, clean racing, not easy on this tight undulating track.  :thumbup1:
The GTC class should make a great championship.  8)

Was good to be back racing again after such a long absense. I ran the DBR9 for a while tonight, but couldn't get much out of it and opted for the Z4. First time i'd driven it, and it seems like a solid car. Qualified well, 5th I think and had some nice little short battles. Then, as normal, my pit stop goes wrong. Had transmission problems which I didn't fix, then got a stop/go for pitlane speeding. Climbed back to grab 6th (I think) so all in all, not a bad return for me.

Cheers all

Couldnt understand what you meant by chopping MJ, watched replay, I see what you mean
sorry 'bout that, car was longer than I thought.

Really good racing as described above for the first 40 minutes. Sorry about the nudge Jan - slowed and thought I'd let you back through but realised later that neither of those I let through really was you - too many white cars and I should put the name tag things on.

Managed an ultra slow pit stop putting 100l of fuel in when I only needed 60. Must learn to check settings carefully after qually - meant to start with 100 and top to 60 not vice versa!

I Turned off the instrument display and concentrated just on driving in the last half hour and was glad to finish higher than qually holding off a much faster Colin Hines in the last few laps.

The BMW is a joy to drive but a bit too quick I fear for a fair league as it stands. It is fun to leave people on the straight for a change after a year with the Vertislow - certainly handles better than Picnic's hedgehog :)

Well I shall not be driving that hedgehog again. That race was a complete embarrassment. A sec slower than every one in qual and ditto the race. I'm sure someone who has a clue setting a car up can get more out of it but I can't. The car is fun to drive until the tyres get close to 10 wear when it starts to fall off everywhere, generally under braking. Dave did mutter something about brake balance on TeamSpeak, trouble is it's on the keyboard that I can't reach while racing  :-\ Even if it's fun to drive it's dog slow, everyone in qually took chunks of time out of me at every phase of the track, only the end of the long straight did I hold my own.

No worries Matt, i am pretty sure you only had eyes for the apex's ahead as the racing is so intense at this track and that Viper is long!. I initially thought you were 'putting some manners' on me when you chopped across my nose down the straight as it forced me to drastically lift when i should have been foot to the floor, allowing Prof or Jan to jump all over me.
Great racing all round, really enjoyed it and a great spread of cars to battle against including an epic porsche v fezza fight against Jan and some German rivalry with Profs Beemer.  :)

Sounds like fuel had a lot of us on our toes in the dying minutes !  :P

I had plenty I'm afraid!  :P

BMW is a notably faster car, though in endurance racing this doesn't always mean it'll win. There were 3 of them in front of on qualy and also Evert passed me in the opening race laps without much sweat.  :-\  I could hold their pace until tyres started to go a bit loose, then the gap started to open. That means I was holding, no, clutching to them with sheer will of my unberable character. :D  Seems like Purdie had a similar problem, dunno about Jan and MJ.

Seems like they also had tyre problems, though while I was slowed pace-wise, they made mistakes which enabled me undeserved gaining of places. At pitting API stayed in front but I gained 15 seconds on him in pit. Started to close on H@l towards the end, finishing 2 seconds behind after 80 min race. After his (first ;) ) pitstop Lazlow was closing on me alarmingly (softs?) but then had to pit again. It might have been close otherwise.  :sweatdrop:

Good race, Legends. Grats H@l, MJ.  8)  Good show from beemer drivers and Purds, of course.  :)

TT

Yeah mate, would have loved a few more laps for that little battle. Some good blocks by you too, and with me being rusty, I didn't want to make some silly attempts to pass you

Oh yeah, I was going to ask if anyone else had Frame rate issues during the race? ???
For the majority of the race I was getting about 80fps (+/-10). But for about ten seconds, roughly five times during the race it dipped down to about 25fps & the picture was very jerky!
Very odd & I think I'd have had to abandon the race if it was happening for more then ten secs.

Make sure you select "Simple Debris Collisions - ON" in the in-game options, as this prevents other people's accidents on the circuit affecting your frame rate.

I had this in Qually but not during the race. Simple Debris Collisions is definitely on but my old computer system is beginning to creak a bit - it definitely doesn't like weather conditions changing or day turning to evening to night during a race. I have dialled the track details well back in GTR2 settings and nearly always drive at 720p now rather than 1080p. I shall look at what background apps I can kill whilst racing next (AVG?) to try to help stability.

I managed to get down to 1:37.2 in the Spyker with major setup adjustments (although it still doesn't feel very easy to drive), but it's pretty slow none-the-less. Not sure it's competitive enough tbh as again quite a tricky thing to drive although it's more about control than naughty car. The Aston Martin is probably still slower, but they're both outclassed at the moment I feel. Plus the Spyker is ugly. ;D

Thanks, it wasn't... so it is for the future (& in P&G) :)