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Title: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 29, 2009, 07:27:36 AM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(25 mins)
Race:20:35(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GTC from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: UKGTR Magny-Cours (GP) (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=197;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Ted on January 29, 2009, 12:11:19 PM +0000
Cool, looking forward to a new Lower Endurance series  8)

Time constraints mean that this will be the only series that I will be able to take part in this season but I'm looking forward to some more battles with a few of you towards the back of the grid  :D

Think I'll probably take the Viper...

See you Sunday  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Paul968 on January 29, 2009, 12:34:27 PM +0000
I'm tempted to have a go at this. I like the mix of new cars - are there any penalties for changing? I coldn't find any reference to them, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: picnic on January 29, 2009, 12:36:26 PM +0000
I'm tempted to have a go at this. I like the mix of new cars - are there any penalties for changing? I coldn't find any reference to them, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

From Dave's post

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(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.

It's been like this since the year dot I do believe


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Paul968 on January 29, 2009, 12:41:32 PM +0000
Yes, thx - I thought it was, but I didn't expect it to be there  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Legzy on January 29, 2009, 01:11:30 PM +0000
are there any penalties for changing?
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(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
It's been like this since the year dot I do believe
I've not been here since year dot & wonder what that penalty is please?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 29, 2009, 01:56:36 PM +0000
I've not been here since year dot & wonder what that penalty is please?

You can see it on the championship scoring (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=197&scoring=380&theme=3#ch380) panel...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Mark J on January 30, 2009, 08:38:53 AM +0000
-5 degrees out there in the land of the Frenchies  :o  Whats the lowest temps that GTR2 caters for ?  It would be like an ice rink at that temperature !


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 30, 2009, 08:50:31 AM +0000
-5 degrees out there in the land of the Frenchies  :o  Whats the lowest temps that GTR2 caters for ?  It would be like an ice rink at that temperature !

I think GTR2 only goes down to 0, but our weather generator has a minimum of 10 or 15 IIRC.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Joss on January 30, 2009, 10:15:16 AM +0000
Freezing cold but dry are the best conditions ;D I loved karting in that weather, becuase you could really slide everywhere, and it's great going round stadium bend turning left  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Jeffrey on January 30, 2009, 02:47:59 PM +0000
Freezing cold but dry are the best conditions ;D I loved karting in that weather, becuase you could really slide everywhere, and it's great going round stadium bend turning left  :laugh:

Not to mention the extra performance from the engine ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: spanner on January 31, 2009, 09:12:00 PM +0000
If the weather holds up i can see this being a quick race, If i managed a 41.7 earlier with fuel the quickers guys will be well under the record.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: H@L9000 on February 01, 2009, 03:19:38 PM +0000
The Viper is not so good on this track, roll on Monza :D

See you in the race gents :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: lazlow on February 01, 2009, 03:55:59 PM +0000
Going to be driving the Z4 tonight....looks like a very strong car in practice ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Blunder on February 01, 2009, 07:29:09 PM +0000
Help!
Keep getting connection lost on the practice server!? after about a minute
Was ok on GTL today and thursday and was Ok at Spa on Tuesday !?
Any suggestions?

Ta

M.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: H@L9000 on February 01, 2009, 07:37:47 PM +0000
Still having problems Martin? :( I cant think of anything to help, sorry mate.

After a few last minute setup changes, the Viper GTC has come up smelling of roses :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Blunder on February 01, 2009, 07:41:34 PM +0000
Update!
Tried another none SROU race server with no issues!?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: H@L9000 on February 01, 2009, 07:47:26 PM +0000
Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the skin and physics packs Martin?

Make sure you get the rite one. cars2.9.1.0


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Blunder on February 01, 2009, 07:50:01 PM +0000
I will do it again but this is all a fresh install!
:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: picnic on February 01, 2009, 07:54:39 PM +0000
I would have hoped that the car/physics packs would have given you a booted as possible cheat/ car or track not installed type error. Sadly I don't have any ideas why you'd lose the connection after approx 1 min  :-\ Perhaps the server restart will help?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: spanner on February 01, 2009, 08:56:38 PM +0000
 :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

God, I'm only asking for a small victory just once in my life. Whenever i try and push myself and feel i've made a step forward in matching others do you send me back straight in the cave i came from :hang:

Fired the PC up at about 7.45 and tried resetting the bios back to normal from my earlier attempts at overclocking but on the restart it would freeze halfway through bios start up. tried resetting bios several times but would still hang, but removing a stick of ram seemed to wake it up. Only just got it working at 8.50pm.
I've had enough and might go postal, New motherboard here we come!
I was so looking forward to the race as well :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Prof on February 01, 2009, 09:07:23 PM +0000
Confirmation that I need a new PC.

Everytime it rains or goes dark my frame rate just disappears.

I turned everything down still further to make the starting line but the flooded conditions finished me off.

I tried a couple of laps but was getting 7-15fps after 3 laps and quit before I crashed into anyone.

The stuttering screen was beginning to give me a headache and it's a big day at work tomorrow so best call all round.

I hope everyone had fun.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 01, 2009, 09:07:30 PM +0000
Sorry to ask you to quit Reign Man, but after I hit your stationary car for the 4th time, flipping me into the air at 30mph I retired and could see it was causing others problems too (other swerving round your car), so I think it was for the best. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Reign Man on February 01, 2009, 09:14:15 PM +0000
Damn, If I knew I was lagging badly I would have quit earlier. So Sorry!

No reason for it, not downloadin' or nothing.

Sorry to mess up your race Simon...and anybody elses  :-[

RM


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Busi on February 01, 2009, 09:26:40 PM +0000
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

Can't believe I am still having PC freezes even if I disconnected things to decrease the probability of having such problems....

I was really really pushing the car to keep up with gazza. We were disappearing at 1-2 seconds per lap and I even had a half attempt to pass him. I was on soft wets on perfect temperature, just looking for some water to make sure they didn't turn red. Then on the pitstraight it was all over. I really hope we were far enough ahead so my car didnt make anybody crash :-\

Hope you're all having good fun and also hope somebody will have tried to get close to gazza! lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Madd-RIP on February 01, 2009, 09:30:03 PM +0000
 :( Not the best start to a season, I did get a good quali, and decided to give hard wets a go, knowing I would be a sitting duck early on but gain consistency later in the stint.

All was going relatively well, even with a couple of spins, managed to catch and pass API, then disaster, pc crashed, soz if it caught you out API.

Z4 has a couple of gfx errors in car, no mirrors and a constant flickering at the base of the windscreen, other than that hope you all had a good one.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: JPS on February 01, 2009, 10:08:44 PM +0000
Nightmare  :devil:  Hard Rear Wets got cooked in Quali, so opted to run Intermediates rear in the race  :scared:  bad joice :devil: how I kept it from smashing to ribbons for nearly half the race is a miracle, changed tyres to hards wets and was able to push hard, ended up with a 13th which under the circunstances was a surprise result considering my woes :no:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: picnic on February 01, 2009, 10:27:01 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090201%20U9LE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: nsfast on February 01, 2009, 10:32:43 PM +0000
It was nice to be back on GTR2 after a short rest.  :)

I only decided to race an hour before, but it just seemed more tempting than iracing tonight.

A very steady race for me...which was much needed. I put 100l in at the start with hard wets which worked very well. I could have finished the race without pitting but for the mandatory stop.

Congrats to the podium. Many thanks to the organisers.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Mark J on February 01, 2009, 10:44:41 PM +0000
Had a corking race!  :thumbup2:

Did my usual trick of getting my car setup earlier in the week and finding good pace, only to not get near the track and car combo for the next 3 days. :( Jumped straight in during qually and struggled to get myself into the 'zone' but gradually found some pace to qually quite well.

Race started well with plenty of action in the atrocious (but excellent!) weather conditions. Saw the track was flooded so had gone for soft wets all round and they were the smart choice  :)
By lap 7 i was chasing Madd for 3rd or 4th until i stupidly double-downshifted at the hairpin  >:( the car beached itself on the high kerbs/wet grass between the apexs and it took me about 20-30 seconds to rejoin and i had dropped to 8th. I had also cooked my rears in wheelspin  :'(

chased Simons Fezza and reign mans warp-zooming car which freaked me out a few times as i took avoiding action of his stationary-ghosting car  :o Saw Simon spank into one ghost and he quickly retired, allowing me to chase off after the front 6 again.
By 1hour i was upto 3rd place, despite two spins at 'spoon' on very worn and hot rears. :( The fresh rainfall was a godsend ! Ive never had a set of softs last me that long in a race, but that late rain just cooled them enough to get me to my scheduled stop. :)
I stayed 3rd for a considerable time and with a healthy 1.5-2minutes lead over 4th onwards when i finally pitted with about 23 minutes remaining, for fuel and a new set of soft wets.
I couldnt believe it when i saw API and Peter zoom past as i was leaving my pitbox !...i was outraged !!  ;D
I then drove like a man possessed on my new rubber and set about making up the 17 second deficit to them, which i managed, and found myself on APIs gearbox. He ran deep and wide at Spoon allowing me past up the inside after a few laps battling closely. :fencing:
I was literally pumped with adrenalin by now  :ninja: !!...Then i had to catch Peters TVR with only about 7 minutes remaining and i enjoyed a great little battle with him for the last few laps, until about 2 laps from the end, when he caught a backmarker at Lycee and unfortunately went into a half spin that i only very narrowly avoided joining him in  :o ..I 'just' caught it in time and slipped through to take my 3rd place back   :jumpjoy:

Was very happy to cross the line with a podium on the opening round and in such treacherous conditions, made even better as a team mate was on the podium with me...a great 1st round for the Legends.  :thumbup2:
I rue-ed those spins in the middle of the race othewise i might have given TT a good run for his money 8)

Well done to Gazza for a dominating win  :) and good work by all the other drivers that managed to finish.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on February 01, 2009, 10:45:56 PM +0000
Was 6th in quali until pc crashed  >:(  and by the time I rejoined there was no chance to do a fast lap so had to start at the back.
Put some intermediates on for the start of the race and had no grip at all  >:( >:( >:(
Pitted after 20 minutes and ran the last 60 minutes with some hard wets.

Sorry to whoever I hit when I was splashing around early on, think it was H@L   ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Gazza49er on February 01, 2009, 11:01:46 PM +0000
Great race for me.

Was really suprised to be pole as i tried nearly every tire in qually and my fastest time was with soft slicks when the track said damp.

When the server clicked over to race and it said flooded track i thought its got to be soft wets so went with that. Hope the pace lap was ok as the guy in 2nd (Madd Rip)? left quite a gap to me and i thought i might of done something wrong but i went on limiter straight after the little chicane onto finish straight.

Started well but after 3 or 4 laps my tyres were getting very hot and i thought oh no wrong choice, but i was still able to do good lap times so stuck with it. Busi was right with me and we were pulling away from the pack untill he dissapeared (unlucky Busi). This gave me quite a gap so i just tried to do good consistant laps and i was pulling away.

Somehow i managed to make the tyres last almost 50 mins and was wondering what tyres to put on in the pitstop but then it started to rain again one lap before i was gunna come in so stuck soft wets on again and they were perfect.

Came out with 20 second lead i think and just went steady but was pulling away quite alot and built up a 50 second lead even with easing off for the last 15 mins to make sure fuel wasnt an issue.

Really chuffed with my first proper win.

Grats TT and MJ

Bad luck to team mate RM
Well done H@l for finishing in that Viper, that car must of been hard work in those conditions.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 01, 2009, 11:05:17 PM +0000
Not too bad a start to the season. A bit more work on the Aston's setup is starting to pay dividends, and the car is great in the wet. Started on hard wets and they worked well until the track was really starting to dry; eventually I couldn't keep them cool and pitted for intermediates, which would've been perfect to the end of the race had the skies not darkened and the heavens opened almost as soon as I'd made the change. Struggled on but a few laps after it started raining heavily again I aquaplaned off in Estoril and had no choice but to pit again, this time for soft wets. They were excellent and I unlapped a few cars, but the gaps ahead and behind were too great and 10th was the best I could manage.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: H@L9000 on February 01, 2009, 11:21:07 PM +0000
Man, what a race.

Sorry to whoever I hit when I was splashing around early on, think it was H@L   ???

I dont think it was me, maybe Ted. With the weight of the Viper, it probably would have felt like I ran over a cat or something anyway ;D
(PS dont run over cats).

Well done H@l for finishing in that Viper, that car must of been hard work in those conditions.

Mate, it was an absolute nightmare. Really hard work :sweatdrop:

My dry setup was never going to work. I halved the power in the diff, increased the pre-load from 2 to 3, put the wing on MAX, put the rev limit down to almost the MIN and still had immense difficulty getting the power down all through 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears.

I realise now that I should have done allot more wet testing as the tyre selection is hard to get rite. The car only felt good when the tyres were at exactly the correct temp. When they overheated I could not stop, and when they went cold I could not get the power down. I started on soft wets but, it should have been soft wet front and hard wet rear. In the pits I put hard wets on and it should have been soft wet fronts and hard wet rears again (I think). Similar difficulties for Ted in the other Viper as well I think. Well done Ted for gettin that thing home.

Still had some great battles and I am really glad to have gotten to the end in 8th ;D

Well done podiums, especially Gazza who gets his first Championship race win. :)

And well done all finishers.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Legzy on February 01, 2009, 11:48:19 PM +0000
Positives:
Enjoyed it loads, managed to work my way up to about 7th (from last on grid) when I pitted at lap ten & had the 6th fastest lap time of the finishers (that's very high for me).

Negatives:
I finished three laps down ::) & lost count of how many times I seemed to pit for the wrong codding tyres! ::)

Always finish on a high:
I'm going to enjoy this GTC enduro season massively  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Busi on February 02, 2009, 01:40:32 AM +0000
Was really suprised to be pole as i tried nearly every tire in qually and my fastest time was with soft slicks when the track said damp.

That is something which also surprised me. I tried fast laps on hard wets, inters and soft slicks. Although the car was harder to control on slicks, laptimes were the same in the three types of tyres ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Truetom on February 02, 2009, 01:38:02 PM +0000
Had also fastest quali lap on soft slicks. Was 4th and was a bit worried about the weather, so I made some last minute changes, were fairly good this time.  :)
I took hard wets on start, even if it did say "flooded". I goped it would not stay this way and decided to reevaluate things at half. Car was ok, though not as the deadly GaZ4 combo. Well done, you two. ;D  Was not aware it's your first win here, congrats for that as well. :thumbup2:  You never forget the first one...  ;)

At half I saw there's no need to change anything, I had a solid gap to back (and front :P ) so I took 10 litres of fuel just to be sure and new hard wets. All in all I was alone for most of the race, except for the first few minutes. Z4 guys were fast, though I had the impression they had troubles to get the power down, I think I outdragged API (or was it Evert?) out of a hairpin.  :-\

MJ, you're promising that duel for some time now. Stop spinning and drive. :-*  Grats to Gazza and MJ for podium. :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Ted on February 02, 2009, 02:38:58 PM +0000
Ugh, nightmare  :(

Quote
Similar difficulties for Ted in the other Viper as well I think. Well done Ted for gettin that thing home

Thanks mate, just too darn stubborn to quit, that's all  ;)

Really sorry to anyone who was put off by one of my many  "deviations from the racing line."  Perhaps I'll do some practice in the wet for next time.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: H@L9000 on February 02, 2009, 04:28:31 PM +0000
GaZ4
Hehe, Pole, race win and fastest lap by GaZ4 ;D

Well done mate (and his team won the footie yesterday, some people get all the luck). :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Magny-Cours (GP) - Feb 1
Post by: Gazza49er on February 02, 2009, 04:36:52 PM +0000
 :D :D :D i like that.

well its about time all our late night practises started to pay off!