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UKGPL Season 16 - Inter-league race - Solitude

This is the tenth and last race in our current Inter-League season, and will use the 67 cars.  Our guests will be the European Online Challenge, possibly the strongest league we'll race this season and 2009 will be their tenth year of racing.  The race is scheduled at the usual earlier time of 20:00GMT.   Each club is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team- on this occasion you have to avoid being lapped more than once to finish.  We'll use the standard carset for this race.  The start at Solitude can be very tricky, so extra caution may be required.  Let's have the usual warm UKGPL welcome for our guests from EOLC!

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 19:55GMT, (You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Vroc and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server EOLC server
IP address

Race date = 8-2-2009
Time = 20:00 GMT
Track =  Solitude
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 17 laps (complete 16 laps to score points as a finisher)

Chassis assignments: I've left this for the team captain to complete.  
Lotus Ken
Eagle Tim
Ferrari Lorenzo
Brabham John
Brabham Hristo
Honda Clive
Cooper Phil
Cooper Fulvio
BRM  Napo

If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer.  These have been the points scored by the team so far:

John 80
Phil 71
Hristo 65
Storm 49
Lorenzo 48
Clive 42
Will 39
Glyn 34
Natan 19
Iestyn 17
Ken 16
Clive L 12
Mike W 11
Napo 11
Tim 11
Jack 11
Art 9

Appologies for blaming GPFun's server for my bad connection, it appears my ISP is providing bad service for the past week or so, it's usually been ok so I didn't think it was my end that's causing the warp.
Count me in for this one.

If you can tolerate the possibility of another DNF  :-\   I will give it a go.
I think we need to get Ken Murray into our team for this one, ..from memory he loves Solitude,

Count me out for this one, I don't know the track at all, it'd take me too long to learn it effectively. I wish you good luck though. :)

It must be at least 4 years since I drove this in a 67 :o
If you want me to run around at the back again like Monza (only hopefully a bit less off the pace this time  :-[ ) then I'll start re-learning it as soon as I'm happy with a setup for Monza in the 65's  ;D

I'd like to give this one a go, Solitude is one of my favourite tracks ATM. 

Definitely not available for this, thankfully.  ::)

What if we flatten Solitude?  :D

LOL

That would be most appreciated; particularly that leap in the air at the kink on the straight.  Straitening out the second part of the lap so that I don't have to remember which tree is which would be great too.  ;D

But it won't help much.  I shall be at Heathrow to put my son on a flight to Australia. 

Thinking about it, I may actually make it home in time but wife will have lost her one and only son for twelve months and will be a) feeling low and b) TURNING ALL HER ATTENTION ON TO ME!!!!!

Still doesn't look good.

 :o Bad luck Clive  ;)

Anyway, have been reacquainting myself with Solitude and have noted my lap times with a race worth of fuel to help whomever is being Capt  :)
Red times are cars I really don't enjoy racing here or crashed allot, yellow are cars I enjoyed or was just particularly good at not inserting into the scenery  :angel:
White cars I don't mind either way, and all of the times qouted should in theory at least come down with some minor tweaks to the setup (or just more laps in most cases - I know I can get at least another second off the Honda with a clean lap)  :)

Cooper  = 3:34.5
Honda   = 3.35.7
BRM      = 3.37.1
Brabham= 3.33.9
Eagle    = 3.31.5
Ferrari   = 3.32
Lotus    = 3.30

Feel free to bung me in whatever you fancy  ;D

I suppose I should make an effort to turn out for this. I'd take anything but a Honda and only a BRM at a push!!

If there's a place I have a mid 3.32 in Ferrari, but I can cope also in Cooper, Brabham or whatever :)

I've never raced at solitude before. So I will be a reserve and drive if needed. I'd prefer one of the slower cars, but I'll drive whatever is needed. :)

Might be tempted with the Honda here, or whatever suits the team. I recently lost all of my setups  so whatever I am asked to drive will be an adventure. But I do like the circuit, just not sure if the circuit likes me??

C'mon Napo get that BRM out of the garage and burn some rubber!!!

Hi all!!

I'll be available for this one....

Cheers

Lorenzo

I'll drive if you want me to, otherwise I'll be a reserve

i'll race .... brab ?

john

Hello and greetings from EOLC

I opened an EOLC Server for training in solitude.

In Vroc it's the EOLC3

Server: EOLC3
PW: soli
IP: 217.172.189 : 32808

feel free to join!

Patrick

Edit: it's running 24hrs a day
Edit2:
If you want to join via IP in the race on sunday. We will presumably be racing on EOLC1.

(http://www.eolc.de/server/join.jpg)

Hello Patrick and thanks, much appreciated and we'll enjoy having some informal practice sessions.  We're looking forward to the race, Solitude is among the favourite circuits of many of our drivers.

If there's no further volunteers by the end of today I'll be able to post our team.

I've posted the team.  Napo gets the BRM, Fulvio makes his debut in the Cooper, Phil with the other Cooper, Clive returns to the Honda.  John and Hristo have our Brabhams, Tim the Eagle and Ken the Lotus.  Jethro has demurred on this occasion, I'm sure that he'll race for us next season, but we haven't a reserve if there are any further volunteers interested.  EOLC will be very tough, so good luck!

Thanks to everyone who's raced for UKGPL, fortune hasn't always been on our side but over the season we've had some success.  This will be the last time that I post a team- we want to organise the team from the start of next season, so that we don't have to recruit for each race.   

I tested my connection last night. Bandwith type isn't declared on Vroc but I had succesfull with Fast Bandwith settings, may you confirm this setting?
Ciao

our server settings:

[ Communications ]
alternate_ip_addr_lookup = 1 ; Find IP addresses another way
bcast_augment_status = 0 ; Prepend status with IP address?
bcast_listserv = ; IP address of race list server
;bcast_listserv_req = ; Empty string, or start with '?'
;bcast_listserv_req_freq = 10.000000 ; Request race list frequency
bcast_ping_disable = 0 ; Disable response to pings
bcast_ping_port = 0 ; Ping port number (0=default)
bcast_port = 0 ; Broadcast port number (0=default)
;bcast_recv_disable = 0 ; Disable broadcast reception
bcast_send_disable = 1 ; Disable sending broadcasts
bcast_send_freq = 40 ; Broadcast frequency (seconds)
;clock_adj_delay = 4 ; How often may client adjust clock?
disable_ipx = 1 ; Disable IPX support
disable_modem = 1 ; Don't look for/use modems
disable_network = 1 ; Disable network support
disable_tcp_ip = 0 ; Disable TCP/IP support
ignore_net_read_errors = 1 ; Don't disco if error reading pkt
ignore_net_send_errors = 1 ; Don't disco if error sending pkt
;ip_addr_lookup_timeout = 2 ; Timeout to find own IP address
log_server_comm_errors = 0 ; Log errors for client channels?
log_server_connect_status = 0 ; Issue messages as clients connect
;mem_client_send_every = 1 ; Client packet freq via memory
;mem_client_send_size = 276 ; Client packet size via memory
;mem_server_send_every = 1 ; Server packet freq via memory
;mem_server_send_size = 516 ; Server packet size via memory
net_lan_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on LAN
net_lan_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on LAN
net_lan_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on LAN
net_lan_server_send_size = 84 ; Server packet size on LAN
net_mdm_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_size = 132 ; Server packet size on dialup
net_server_port = 0 ; Server port number (0 = default)
net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip = 1 ; Use modem bandwidthfor TCP/IP

Just got myself connected and ran a practice session (couldn't be bothered doing an entire race on my own!)
Couldn't connect at first, then copied your settings above into my core.ini, still couldn't get in!
Restored my original .ini then had a nose about the settings in Vroc and selected the fast bandwidth settings as Fulvio did - worked fine so I presume I'm good to go on Sunday?  :)

net_mdm_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_size = 132 ; Server packet size on dialup


So Fast Bandwith setting.

Thx

Just had an offline race as practice - god are the AI slow here! If I hadn't sliced off 2 wheels misjudging the jump on the back straight I could have lapped the field  ;D

I'm just off to search for any graphical/AI updates, anyone know what the best ones are incase I miss them?  :)

If you are using GEM to manage your connections Tim, there is a way to increase the AI speed.
If you select "Race" on the left hand side, a selection menu appears below, one of the settings is "AI speed"

I have never used it but presumably it will make them quicker? Might go and try it myself now  ::)

Also somewhere I have seen a parameter that allows you to match the AI speed to your own, but can't remember where that is  :-\

UPDATE!!

Just found it in Gem

Click on "Configure" button at top centre of Gem start screen

then tick
"Link AI speed to player"

Should do the trick, now they will keep up with you however fast you go..lol that could get VERY VERY irritating!! if you can never beat them. ;D

http://gplmz.bcsims.com/sub/GTV/

If you set your core.ini to this:

net_mdm_client_send_every = 3
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3
net_mdm_server_send_size = 384
net_server_port = 0                       ; Server port number (0 = default)
net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip = 1      ; Use modem bandwidthfor TCP/IP

and then select use core.ini settings in VROC

you will always be able to connect to any server.

as long as the net_mdm_server_send_size value is set higher on the client side than on the server side then the server setting will overide and you will connect.

I have had these settings for years and have always connected to every server I've tried.

If you ever host however you may want to revise them unless you have a very good connection.

Cheers Ken, that's the one I found  :thumbup1: Looks much nicer  8)
Will have to try Evils settings in Gem too  ;D

I prefer to practice on my own. Those AI things get in your way like no human could!! I've never seen the point in them personally! :)

That's the challenge, skip practice/qualify and see how long it takes to reach the front  ;D
At solitude I'm normally in the lead or 2nd by Sandwerk  ::)

By a turn of events, I am home for the next few hours: I'll be backup  8)

I had to retire while I was in a good position behind the two EOLC Cooper. Just before the hump on the long straight there was a Ferrari that hit a tree end flight over me and the Cooper in front of me, scary moment  :o
Soon after the Cooper spun at the hairpin braking on the right side and to avoid him I had to brake on the left and clipped grass loosing control and hit a tree loosing a wheel  :(
I'm very disapponted cause I like the track and till that moment I hadn't do any mistake.
Oh well, next one.

Bugger.   :(
Gained 2nd early on due to accidents ahead, was nice and safe eeking out a couple of tenths per lap on the car behind.
Then WHAM! lost concentration and ended up on my head outside Cafe Glemstal  :wacko:
Really gutted at this as my points would have helped somewhat due to the number of our team I'd seen disco during the race, When I left the server only John was left.
We were thrashed  :-[

I was really enjoying it too up till that point....

Big apology, again!!!

Qually not bad at 3:26, just behind Hristo. Got away ahead of Hristo but he scythed through when the Eagle in front was sliding all over on cold tyres. I wasn't as brave, or skilled, so I was still behind the Eagle starting lap 2 and I spoiled both his and my race by rear ending him at T1. It was only a slight touch but enough to spin us both and allow the pack through. Then I was following a bunch of cars but there is no where to pass. The Cooper in front took a defensive line in to cafe glemstell and I went down the outside but just skimmed his wheels and I slid in to the bales. More cars through!! Set off with an open road at last and promptly spun in to the trees trying to catch up. All in all a pretty poor performance. :(

Results:

Track: Solitude             Sun Feb 08 22:46:15 2009

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  15 Carsten Theile                   Brabham  GER 3m21.487s              7
 2   9 Christian Hatzenbichle           Eagle    AUT 3m25.757s   04.270s    5
 3  17 mark edelmann                    Lotus    GER 3m26.072s   04.585s    6
 4  18 Hristo Itchov                    Brabham  GBR 3m26.077s   04.590s    5
 5   7 Ken Murray                       Lotus    GBR 3m26.388s   04.901s    5
 6  13 Kelvin Mace                      Cooper   USA 3m27.625s   06.138s    5
 7  10 Tim Muttram                      Eagle    GBR 3m27.958s   06.471s    7
 8   3 Ronald v. Huystee                Cooper   HOL 3m29.054s   07.567s    6
 9  14 lorenzo galluzzi                 Ferrari  ITA 3m29.578s   08.091s    4
10  16 Radek Petera                     BRM      MON 3m30.669s   09.182s    5
11   6 Fulvio Policardi                 Cooper   ITA 3m31.105s   09.618s    4
12  11 danilo silvani                   Ferrari  ITA 3m31.473s   09.986s    8
13  20 65 evilclive                     Honda    GBR 3m33.509s   12.022s    6
14   1 Patrick Kessler                  Honda    GER 3m35.665s   14.178s    2
15  12 John Roberts                     Brabham  GBR 3m37.477s   15.990s    7
16   8 Pedro Berg_vd                    Brabham  HOL 3m37.639s   16.152s    4
17   2 Phil Thornton                    Cooper   GBR 3m37.950s   16.463s    5
18  19 Napo KXracer                     BRM      CAN   No time   No time    1
19   4  EOLC1                           Brabham  GER   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser


Track: Solitude             Sun Feb 08 22:46:15 2009

RACE RESULTS (After 17 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff    Problem
 1  17 mark edelmann                   Lotus    GER   17  59m13.612s           
 2  13 Kelvin Mace                     Cooper   USA   17  60m10.785s    57.173s
 3   3 Ronald v. Huystee               Cooper   HOL   17  61m24.045s  2m10.433s
 4  12 John Roberts                    Brabham  GBR   17  62m35.455s  3m21.843s
 5   1 Patrick Kessler                 Honda    GER   17  62m43.606s  3m29.994s
 6   8 Pedro Berg_vd                   Brabham  HOL   14  51m24.939s   3 lap(s)
 7  10 Tim Muttram                     Eagle    GBR   10  35m12.758s   7 lap(s)
 8  16 Radek Petera                    BRM      MON   10  36m01.199s   7 lap(s)
 9   9 Christian Hatzenbichle          Eagle    AUT    7  25m21.793s  10 lap(s)
10   2 Phil Thornton                   Cooper   GBR    6  22m44.973s  11 lap(s)
11  15 Carsten Theile                  Brabham  GER    5  17m12.563s  12 lap(s)
12  14 lorenzo galluzzi                Ferrari  ITA    5  17m44.508s  12 lap(s)
13  20 65 evilclive                    Honda    GBR    5  19m07.021s  12 lap(s)
14  11 danilo silvani                  Ferrari  ITA    3  10m59.756s  14 lap(s)
15   6 Fulvio Policardi                Cooper   ITA    3  11m01.130s  14 lap(s)
16   7 Ken Murray                      Lotus    GBR    2   7m26.847s  15 lap(s)
17  19 Napo KXracer                    BRM      CAN    2   8m35.699s  15 lap(s)
18  18 Hristo Itchov                   Brabham  GBR    1   3m39.538s  16 lap(s)
19   4  EOLC1                          Brabham  GER    0 DidNotStart  17 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Carsten Theile                    3m25.140s   5
 2  mark edelmann                     3m27.081s  10
 3  lorenzo galluzzi                  3m28.129s   4
 4  Tim Muttram                       3m28.484s   6
 5  Christian Hatzenbichle            3m29.990s   7
 6  Kelvin Mace                       3m30.174s   4
 7  Ronald v. Huystee                 3m30.424s  11
 8  Radek Petera                      3m30.834s   9
 9  Pedro Berg_vd                     3m33.352s  12
10  danilo silvani                    3m34.007s   3
11  Fulvio Policardi                  3m35.153s   3
12  Patrick Kessler                   3m36.516s  17
13  John Roberts                      3m37.706s  16
14  Hristo Itchov                     3m38.845s   1
15  Phil Thornton                     3m39.324s   6
16  65 evilclive                      3m39.686s   5
17  Ken Murray                        3m41.349s   1
18  Napo KXracer                      4m01.593s   2
19   EOLC1                              No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Carsten Theile                   1-5
mark edelmann                    6-17

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
mark edelmann                    12
Carsten Theile                   5


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
John Roberts                        15      4      11 
Pedro Berg_vd                       16      6      10 
Patrick Kessler                     14      5       9 
Phil Thornton                       17     10       7 
Ronald v. Huystee                    8      3       5 
Kelvin Mace                          6      2       4 
Radek Petera                        10      8       2 
mark edelmann                        3      1       2 
Napo KXracer                        18     17       1 
 EOLC1                              19     19       0 
65 evilclive                        13     13       0 
Tim Muttram                          7      7       0 
danilo silvani                      12     14      -2 
lorenzo galluzzi                     9     12      -3 
Fulvio Policardi                    11     15      -4 
Christian Hatzenbichle               2      9      -7 
Carsten Theile                       1     11     -10 
Ken Murray                           5     16     -11 
Hristo Itchov                        4     18     -14 


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
John Roberts                         (5/17)      29.41
Patrick Kessler                      (5/17)      29.41
Kelvin Mace                          (4/17)      23.53
mark edelmann                        (3/17)      17.65
Tim Muttram                          (3/10)      30.00
Radek Petera                         (3/10)      30.00
Christian Hatzenbichle                (2/7)      28.57
danilo silvani                        (1/3)      33.33
65 evilclive                          (1/5)      20.00
Napo KXracer                          (0/2)       0.00
Pedro Berg_vd                        (0/14)       0.00
Carsten Theile                        (0/5)       0.00
Ronald v. Huystee                    (0/17)       0.00
Hristo Itchov                         (0/1)       0.00
Phil Thornton                         (0/6)       0.00
lorenzo galluzzi                      (0/5)       0.00
Ken Murray                            (0/2)       0.00
Fulvio Policardi                      (0/3)       0.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Ken Murray                        0.000          0.000    3m44.633s      2
Napo KXracer                      0.000          0.000    4m01.593s      2
Carsten Theile                    0.244          0.286    3m25.469s      5
mark edelmann                     0.705          0.924    3m28.562s     17
Tim Muttram                       0.830          1.038    3m30.029s     10
Kelvin Mace                       0.854          1.342    3m31.615s     17
lorenzo galluzzi                  1.350          1.698    3m30.131s      5
John Roberts                      1.485          1.799    3m40.145s     17
Fulvio Policardi                  1.558          1.558    3m36.711s      3
danilo silvani                    2.395          2.395    3m36.402s      3
Pedro Berg_vd                     2.551          2.938    3m39.009s     14
Radek Petera                      3.147          4.251    3m35.040s     10
Patrick Kessler                   3.412          5.631    3m40.490s     17
Phil Thornton                     5.382          6.158    3m45.950s      6
Ronald v. Huystee                 5.699          8.935    3m36.230s     17
Christian Hatzenbichle            6.143          8.465    3m36.648s      7
65 evilclive                      6.362          6.675    3m48.376s      5


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Thanks for the race!

Thanks for the race guys.
Great event!

I have had a great race, with some scary fights with John Roberts.
Prebluda says "J.Roberts" and I thought I was racing Julia ;-)

After I finaly passed John and pulled a gap I dissided to slow down abit.
Ok .............. thats not the way to do it!
I lost concentration, and turnd up side down at FrauenKraus (or something like that).



Thanks for organising this event admins, and all drivers for racing!
Hope to meet you all again sometime.

Greetings Pedro vd Berg.

Thank you Patrick.  A comprehensive win for your team.  Well done.

Like most of my team mates I crashed out :(.  Solitude requires 100% concentration and a good rhythm.  I lost concentration somewhere around Spitzklinge and drifted up the banking.  I only made minor contact with the greenery but it was enough to loose both offside wheels.

Grats to John.  The only UKGPL finisher and top scorer for UKGPL in the Interleague races!

I'm sorry guys! I didn't do any practice and this track was new to me. Havn't been racing gpl in a while so I was rusty. Crashing into that tree was inevitable.

I'll be better prepared next time out :)

Not just a pretty face :P

sorry to say i was pretty much a mobile chicane on the twisty 2nd half of the track, how i didn't crash on that part of the track is beyond me . the fast outward part of the track i wasn't to bad , soli is one of those tracks that is just too narrow for most overtaking ... especially with me in front sliding all over the track !

john

Hmmmm, yes I was aware of that in the early stages John and put it down to cold tyres for the first two laps, along with your usually cautious and measured approach to these races. ::)
I almost committed the cardinal sin of taking both of us out of the race after a few laps when ( to me at least :-\) you seemed to slow down when I expected you to be hard on the gas. A quick detour through the grass and dust avoided the collision, and the armco, and I followed you for another lap.
Then, bu**er me lol,  I was caught out again in the same place!!, but this time I think there was some warp contact and it spelt the beginning of the end for my race as there was damage to my steering/suspension which got progressively worse as I repeatedly clipped barriers etc.

I agree with comments posted earlier that Solitude is a track that demands 100% concentration at all times, there is nowhere to rest as even the flat out section isn't straight!! and as for those twisty bits..if you miss your apex on one corner then the next three are compromised and its no good trying to maintain maximum attack.

Big thankyou to EOLC and a comprehensive thrashing of UKGPL except for John who at least prevented a total whitewash.

Maybe next time........... ::)

The last Interleague race of the season was against EOLC,  17 gruelling laps of Solitude.  Thanks to Patrick for organising the race from the EOLC side.  There were only five finishers and four of them were EOLC drivers- congratulations to them and to Mark for the win and Kelvin and Ronald who completed the podium.  John was the UKGPL driver who finished, also claiming the title of top points scorer over the season.

EOLC 18+17+16+14= 65pts

UKGPL 15pts

EOLC are able to field at least four grids of 67 cars on their race nights, whereas we had to scramble nine drivers  together at the last minute, so our grid positions were quite good- despite Carsten's attempt on the Solitude records!  Had we brought even our usual 4-5 drivers home we would have been close, however everyone seemed to enjoy the race anyway.  The rematch will be the last race of next season, in July.

Final points tallies for the season:

John 95
Phil 71
Hristo 65
Storm 49
Lorenzo 48
Clive 42
Will 39
Glyn 34
Natan 19
Iestyn 17
Ken 16
Clive L 12
Mike W 11
Napo 11
Tim 11
Jack 11
Art 9

We will attempt to implement registration for these races in season 17 and to build a stronger and more settled team.  However, if you have any other suggestions on organisation, it might be helpful to present them before registration begins.

Hi,

Here is the Replay:

http://www.eolcreplay.de/download/replays/eolc_ukgpl.7z (http://www.eolcreplay.de/download/replays/eolc_ukgpl.7z)

See you in July

Patrick