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Title: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 30, 2009, 10:19:03 AM +0000
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:25(20 mins)
Race:20:45(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT2 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Seeded from real-world conditions, fixed for the full event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero)
Track: UKGTR Spa 2003 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_trackpack) as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2)
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=199;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Legzy on January 30, 2009, 10:33:24 AM +0000
Has this shifted from 50mins to 40mins from last year because of the change in car class?

I've simply no idea what car I'm going to use for lower sprints  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 30, 2009, 10:56:16 AM +0000
Has this shifted from 50mins to 40mins from last year because of the change in car class?

No - I just got more negative than positive feedback about the change, so I've changed it back how it was.

I've simply no idea what car I'm going to use for lower sprints  :-\

I was thinking about the Panoz. Or the Gallardo. Or the Fezza. Or something else. ??? :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: spanner on January 30, 2009, 11:53:54 AM +0000
Sadly I cant make this race as I have to travel that night for a meeting the next day.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Busi on January 30, 2009, 12:38:13 PM +0000
I don't know what car I'm gonna pick... I like the Panoz and always liked the M3... gonna make a bit of testing before the race :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: spanner on February 02, 2009, 10:21:39 AM +0000
Looks like i have a repreive and should be running, though looking at the forecast its not going to be much different to sundays race! You know there's a reason the real racing season starts in march/ april ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 02, 2009, 06:21:46 PM +0000
Copy of Spanner joined the server  :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: spanner on February 02, 2009, 06:23:34 PM +0000
OK,OK!

Hopefully the copy will perform better!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 02, 2009, 06:39:23 PM +0000
I want to race in this race, and this would be my first online GTR2 race. I've installed the physics pack, but I don't see GT2 cars in the car selection screen. What am I doing wrong? I've also installed the track pack and GT2 skin pack.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 02, 2009, 06:51:15 PM +0000
I want to race in this race, and this would be my first online GTR2 race. I've installed the physics pack, but I don't see GT2 cars in the car selection screen. What am I doing wrong? I've also installed the track pack and GT2 skin pack.

1. Have you installed it in the right place? :P
2. Have you actually selected the UKGTR classes instead of any of the standard ones? (Selector at the top left of the Class 'tab').


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 02, 2009, 07:05:55 PM +0000
It was installed in a gtr folder inside main gtr folder. Now the cars are there. But some of the gt2 are still in single color. Is that all-right? Should all cars have custom paint jobs? Cause I see even some shark team cars in single color (Chrysler Viper GTS-R...)
And what does year represent? The cars and specs look the same as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 02, 2009, 07:13:19 PM +0000
I was looking in the wrong class. G2 instead of GT2.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 02, 2009, 09:10:28 PM +0000
OK,OK!

Hopefully the copy will perform better!

Sorry baby, couldn't resist.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Jorgen Wahlby on February 03, 2009, 02:41:55 PM +0000
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/EauRougeInTheSnow.jpg)


Hope not it's like on the Pict... ;D Might be some difficulties for thous that choose the wrong tires to get over the crest...  :blink:





Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Legzy on February 03, 2009, 02:47:30 PM +0000
Should be OK as long as you remember to up your Coast Diff... you might also increase your ride height a notch  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: H@L9000 on February 03, 2009, 03:10:37 PM +0000
Might be some difficulties for thous that choose the wrong tires to get over the crest...  :blink:

 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Mark J on February 03, 2009, 04:28:39 PM +0000
it would be a downhill slalom in a 911 once it got halfway up and began sliding back down again !  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Minton on February 03, 2009, 05:39:36 PM +0000
Quote
Hope not it's like on the Pict... Grin Might be some difficulties for thous that choose the wrong tires to get over the crest...  blink

How about a little snowboarding down Eau Rouge  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Gazza49er on February 03, 2009, 09:14:43 PM +0000
 >:(  :-\  :'(

Bugger!!

Was looking forward to this, but in qually i was getting no timings on other cars just mine so had no idea where i was, people were missing in the positions too. Come the race i tried to join grid and my car was launched into the air crashing to earth somewhere lol. I guess i should of realised something was up bit earlier and maybe tried to rejoin   ???

Hope it didnt cause any problems for the rest of you.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 03, 2009, 09:45:38 PM +0000
Bad luck, Gazza.  :(

YAY for MJ!  8)  Good win, my man, something to celebrate.  :jumpjoy:
With 1st and 3rd for Legends it's a good start of the Championship.  :)

Big sorry to Smokey, who I used as a brake. Couldn't stop, I hope you didn't sustain any damage.  :(

Bad luck for JPS and Purds :( and good fight with Shark, as usual.  :thumbup1:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Busi on February 03, 2009, 09:50:12 PM +0000
Sorry for leaving just as I crossed the line guys, but my graphics card was messing up once again. We were into the last lap and suddenly the sky turned into some grey/black colors, part of the asphalt was red at some parts and I was lucky I could see the car ahead of me. Here is a screenshot I took just before leaving the game to prove it (click on it)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/336/gtr2qf9.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/336/gtr2qf9.jpg)

If somebody knows what is the exact problem please tell me what to do.

Now my race: I tried once again the three types of tyres, this time looks like slicks were not quite as fast as inters, so I went for inters in both quali and race. Although I guess hard wets would've been better for quali.

Start of the race and I passed TT into Les Combes, two corners later I make a mistake and I pass him again next lap lol then he and Evert both pass me but they collide and I'm 2nd behind teammate Purdie. I tried to follow him without giving him too much pressure as he had asked on the radio, but then I made a stupid mistake running wide in Rivage and lost 2nd to M Jonzo who was catching Purd. Then, once again, Purdie crashed the car in Eau Rouge LOL really unlucky mate you were keeping it nicely until that moment.

I tried to follow Mark but he was too fast for me, dunno if he was on inters like me (slicks?), and TT was also catching behind (slicks again? lol). Then graphics card messed up on last lap as I said but I could keep going to take 2nd. Grats Mark nice one :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: purdie on February 03, 2009, 09:55:26 PM +0000
Grats MJ  ;D

Just managed to get pole in the last couple of minutes, sorry for the slow pace lap but with the rain and Spa being fast i wanted to avoid any eratic speed changes :P.

I took the start carefully and was super cautious in the first couple of laps, tyres felt good and I was maintaining a gap with Busi and TT both on my tail. After 30 mins both guys dropped away.......Busi was quick! but understeered off at Rivage  :-[. My rear tyres were consistently 115 degrees even though I had hard wets on all round.

Out of no where came a flying Mark Jonzo  :laugh:..... I was somehow keeping him behind even though he was clearly quicker. The tyres were still hot and the car was getting twitchier!  :-\ I then made a mistake into Eau Rouge which resulted on a wide exit into the pit lights/wall :nuke:  :laugh:

Was good fun and 997 is great! I just think I over-pressured the rears  ::)

ps. unlucky gazza  :-\ buggy GTR2


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: picnic on February 03, 2009, 09:59:44 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090203%20U9LS/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: spanner on February 03, 2009, 10:00:59 PM +0000
Well that was fun ;D

You'll have to excuse me for that 3 wide stuff on the first lap, I wouldnt say i'd cured the wet handling of the car and it still has a bit of a death weave at high speed so i was struggling trying to keep to a line. Nerve-wracking tho :o Took me a few laps to work out the speed through eau-rouge as i'm sure the weather in the race was completely different to the other sessions. Dived inside a seat(Picnic?) into la-source, sorry if i surprised you as you ended up broadside across the track.

It was getting a bit lonely for a while with a big gap behind and infront, but some shenanigans ahead brought Evert closer and i slowly managed to close up with him being faster down the straight but i could make the time up in the corners and noticed his tyres must have been getting worse. At one stage he lost in in Les Combs and i managed to get ahead but slowing had unsettled the car too much and i couldnt control it. Last few laps were close though, ready to pounce if he made any more mistakes. Though Jose coming up behind me on the last lap to unlap himself into the bus stop put me off from doing anything, It was the last lap Jose. Brilliant race Evert 8)


Ended up taking intermediates on the rear and med wets on the front, was going to go with soft wets but the temps were rising higher than we'd seen them.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: JPS on February 03, 2009, 10:06:00 PM +0000
Great win MJ  I watched most of your race from the monitor in the pits after I retired until the last couple of laps, Ace Drive

Nice podium TT  Great start for the Legends Team 

My 997 GT2 car was a utter pig to drive in the wet :devil:  the damn thing was just wondering left to right all over the track...in the end I retired before I took somebody out after just 'wondering' off the track a few times.

360 for my next GT2 drive I think


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Smokey on February 03, 2009, 10:07:11 PM +0000
 No proplem turetom. Just went into the grass a little. Last lap anyway. First time to race in the rain. Hope I was able to stay out of everybodys way. We had a bad ice storm here. No power or heat for five days. Missed races last week. Was fun, looking forward to more racing.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Blunder on February 03, 2009, 10:07:41 PM +0000
Any admins tuned in!?

GTL Practice server on wrong track!  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Blunder on February 03, 2009, 10:17:17 PM +0000
Tis ok now thanks


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 03, 2009, 10:19:02 PM +0000
Ah, yes, I was also experimenting with tyres and this time I was fastest with wets. Could have taken softs, but I guess they'd be overheating.  :-\

Grats on 2nd place, Busi. How much wing did you have? You were fast on straights and through Eau Rouge. Shark always gained 1 second through Eau Rouge. Now I don't know if I had the car set wrong or is it just about daring to go fast.  :D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2009, 10:19:44 PM +0000
Frustrating race that; took the only tyre choice possible, soft wet fronts and hard wet rears. Had a bit of an overheating problem but was just about driving around it. Gallardo seems pretty quick up through Eau Rouge compared to most but there's also a bit of a flat spot near the top of the revs which I hadn't noticed before. Most odd.

Some good battles along the way, in particular with Blunder who eventually drove his 430 right round the outside of me!

With a few laps to go I managed to get into 10th despite a few minor offs (and one big one when I ran wide in Pouhon) but then ran off yet again on the last lap and let two cars back past.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Prof on February 03, 2009, 10:49:51 PM +0000
Another poor race even by my modest standards. Drifted around on a quickly deteriorating front right which eventually gave up the ghost at the fast left hander sending me straight on.

Apologies to Matt Rowe for the touch but you were lagging quite badly from my view - perhaps it was me but it was not mentioned by team mates on TS.

Really poor start to the season not helped by a computer struggling to give me a good picture at any sort of decent fps. Strongly considering sitting out for now until I get some enthusiasm back.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Mark J on February 03, 2009, 10:54:24 PM +0000
Whoohooo !! My first win in a long time :clap: ...since last time i won at this track  ;D

Had a bad qually session, with first a CTD then traffic on two of my flying runs, leaving me in a less than great 8th on grid knowing i was quicker than that.
I took the whole of the countdown time just to make my mind up what setup to run and at the last minute opted for my dry setup with a tad more wing...it worked a treat  :)
Race start was all action with me, Spanner and Picnic running 3 abreast up the Kemmel straight !  :o I was so busy watching Spanners meandering 997 that Petes SEAT arrived from nowhere!...just glad i never changed lines at last minute  :sweatdrop:

Took me a lap or two to shake loose and get into a rhythm but then i started to bang in some fast laptimes and caught several cars quite quickly. Simon gave me a rabbit to chase for several laps and i was starting to set fastest race laps. Once i got by Simon, i had about 5 seconds to make up on Busi and Purdie up front but now i had the car really flying and was banging in fastest race laps about 2 secs quicker than the front man 8)

I caught Andy's 997 and then actually started to get slower as i got mesmerised watching his car in front and feeling some pressure from Busi behind. This went on for several laps until i got closer to put some pressure on the leader, and followed Purds up through eau rouge. I saw his car bottom out with a shower of sparks half way up and that seemed to cause him to understeer off onto the slippery kerbs where i saw him have a hefty race ending impact with the Belgian Armco !  :surrender: Unlucky mate  :(

Busi came back at me a couple of times near bus stop but then i could pull out a gap around the rest of the lap, and in the final lap had clear air behind me by a decent margin, even allowing me to slow around La source enough to watch the lap counter go down to zero, meaning i didnt have to do another lap  ;D

I was ecstatic to cross the finishing line with a win at my favourite race track in my favoured car, especially in tricky conditions  :thumbup1:
Congrats to TT for his 3rd place and Busi in 2nd.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Legzy on February 03, 2009, 11:36:28 PM +0000
I think my race can be summed up in this little video (kindly laughed at prepared by a Teammate), it's my last twenty seconds of the race  :-X:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zpymg8vcA5c

I've no idea how I managed it & I lost gave away two hard earned positions  ::) ::) ::)

Happy with my laptimes again, dissapointment over consistency again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 04, 2009, 12:40:11 AM +0000
Hehe, it happens.  :smartass:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Blunder on February 04, 2009, 06:50:47 AM +0000
Lol ! that video is classic! :)

Great race for me especially as I had all those lost connections on Sunday and none this evening!?
I have changed nothing!? Wierd!

Last minute panics all round as Team Oldie tested tyres in quali !!

Went with Soft slicks in the end and was obviouisly marginally quicker than those around me. Still took
some work to pass people. Great few laps with Dave particularly. That was good fun! Dave originally passed me on the outside too!
So I returned the favour later!! Felt like my tyre choice was spot on and others were having issues?

So relieved the Sim seems configured Ok again after my PC rebuild. What a nightmare that has been! and I work in IT ! :)

B*** computers!  ;D

Oh, better thank my Team mate Lazlow for not rear ending me when I had been slowed through the bus stop by someone in front of me!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Mark J on February 04, 2009, 07:49:53 AM +0000
hehe, great video Legzy!....not your finest hour  ;)  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 04, 2009, 08:27:24 AM +0000
Apologies to Matt Rowe for the touch but you were lagging quite badly from my view - perhaps it was me but it was not mentioned by team mates on TS.

Suspect the "not" there is spurious; I was seeing it too - the M3 was jumping back and forth by 100 yards at a time, most alarming!



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: phspok on February 04, 2009, 11:07:02 AM +0000
Legzy said I was warping some as well. humble appologies, I am away this week, and I am borrowing a friends conn
which is "variable quality" as other people in the house use it.
I will try to use it only when it's free, but I have limited control as it aint mine.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on February 04, 2009, 01:58:49 PM +0000
Spun at rivage, got beached on the curb and then annihilated my rear tires getting off. Had to pit as the rear then had no grip at all.

Though Jose coming up behind me on the last lap to unlap himself into the bus stop put me off from doing anything, It was the last lap Jose.

Sorry for the poor unlap spanner, was pushing hard and trying to catch smokey as I was 15 sec faster than him on the previous lap and I didn’t realise it was going to be the last lap, Thought there was going to be one more. Would have backed off had I known.     :-[  :-[  :-[
Noob Error sorry!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: spanner on February 04, 2009, 10:12:09 PM +0000
No problem Jose :) I often get confused over whether its telling me the lap i'm on, laps complete or what?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Joss on February 04, 2009, 11:21:46 PM +0000
Congrats to MJ on his first overall win....ever!  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Truetom on February 04, 2009, 11:29:10 PM +0000
That'll fire him right up!  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Blunder on February 05, 2009, 11:22:44 AM +0000
Sorry for the poor unlap spanner, was pushing hard and trying to catch smokey as I was 15 sec faster than him on the previous lap and I didn’t realise it was going to be the last lap, Thought there was going to be one more. Would have backed off had I known.     :-[  :-[  :-[
Noob Error sorry!!!

Hey Jose, I think we had the same issue buddy! API and I were racing for position 7th/8th and you were way quicker than us but getting involved with us with a lap or 2 to go may not have been an ideal plan! You were a lap down at the time I think? I was catching API slowly but obviously another car in the mix does change things! I did get an opportunity to pass API but held back on purpose so not to take the position unfairly and then raced him for position after that.
I guess what I am politely saying is you did nothing wrong but it is always good to be mindfull of peoples battles!
Hope you don't feel I am having a pop!, just wanted to mention it!

Obviously any top tips for going quicker from the 'Newbie' to us veteran slow guys would be great!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Lower Sprint (GT2) - Spa (2003) - Feb 3
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on February 05, 2009, 03:17:51 PM +0000
Hope you don't feel I am having a pop!, just wanted to mention it!

Any advice on driving style is always much appreciated.
Think I got a bit over excited when I saw how fast I was catching Smokey  :angel: