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Title: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on January 31, 2009, 10:37:39 AM +0000 All members welcome.
Practice: 20:10 (5 mins) Qualifying: 20:15 (20 mins) Race: 20:35 (40 mins) Track: Mid Ohio (chicane) from here (http://rapidshare.de/files/39708960/VLM_MidOhio_V100_GTR2.exe.html) Weather: Dry Cars allowed: Porsche RSR, Porsche 906, Ford GT40 MkI and MkII. Time of Day Setting: 12:00 Start: STANDING Server: [PnG] UKGTL Test Password: see above (#post_event_password) Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7). (3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on January 31, 2009, 10:48:22 AM +0000 Tried this track a few weeks ago, in GTR2 and GTL I think, and it was superb looking, but terrible for frame rate
it's like the builders were into eye candy and not racing. Initial impressions were it was rubbish and unusable however pretty it looked. Be interesting to see what other get here. could be just my settings, but I had stuff fairly low. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Jos Verstappen on January 31, 2009, 02:25:47 PM +0000 superb looking track, no performance problems here, but then again there were only 2 players on the servers when I tried.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on January 31, 2009, 02:28:13 PM +0000 Done a few untidy laps in each. 1:44.9 in GT40, 1:40.0 in 906, 1:38.8 in 911
FPS drops to 63 a few times, mostly 84. The chicane onto start/finish is really choppy, though it says 63 the screen jerks at about 4 Hz for a few seconds. Cars seem a bit big and rear heavy for the loverly bends over brows stuff. If you look at the curved edges of the track they are more "curved" than most of the places where you can see the straight sections, here there are so many sections in a curve that it looks great but is too many polys for smooth FPS. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: pribeiro on January 31, 2009, 02:40:12 PM +0000 Did a few races here with RFACTOR Historix mod, GTL and GTREVO's Minis and GT cars, had no problems at all. Good frames and excellent track for racing.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 01, 2009, 11:15:36 AM +0000 The MK I GT40 is now added to list. Done because the Gulf version appears to be faster than MK II around here. A nice spread of GT40's, I know Madd is taking the other MK I ;), would be nice for testing.
So I say again, the Gulf GT40 model is fastest. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on February 01, 2009, 02:55:13 PM +0000 Hmm... the Gulf GT40 seems faster. :whistling:
Gulf GT40 Mk1 1:36.0 911 1:37.7 906 1:37.8 But then I am poor at coleopterology, so some may have it all the other way round. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Steve Holmes on February 01, 2009, 03:42:24 PM +0000 But then I am poor at coleopterology, so some may have it all the other way round. Hehe :lol: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 01, 2009, 04:04:23 PM +0000 Matt (that is you phspok isn't it?) - are you using some strange skins at all? When you are on the server I get a CTD when it loads you after I join.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on February 01, 2009, 04:45:34 PM +0000 Paul
yes Phspok = Matt Rowe I am not using anything strange I am aware of. A guy from Denmark just joined me on line. I was using GT40 mk1 Gulf, then GT40 Mk1, then 906 then 911 He was in the game with me for all of them Managed 36.9 in 911, I expect the specialists will go a deal quicker than that. I will probably take Gulf GT40, unless there is a crowd with it, in which case i will try to get under 37 in 906, but I don;t think I can. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 01, 2009, 05:30:12 PM +0000 :'( I'm working for this too..............double sob
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 01, 2009, 05:30:48 PM +0000 First time on P&G today after all the probs i had installing it ::) The cars feel more alive than GTL which is good. Managed a 1.34 .5 in the 911.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 01, 2009, 10:35:52 PM +0000 Keep getting booted as a possible cheat on the server? any clues why?
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Tibernius on February 01, 2009, 10:40:32 PM +0000 Keep getting booted as a possible cheat on the server? any clues why? Have you installed the terrain patch? Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 01, 2009, 11:26:30 PM +0000 Keep getting booted as a possible cheat on the server? any clues why? Have you installed the terrain patch?When we were at Valencia, I was getting in '4th time lucky' most times... keep trying. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 02, 2009, 10:21:18 AM +0000 Quote Have you installed the terrain patch? Is this separate to the install of the game it -self ? ??? Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 02, 2009, 11:05:07 AM +0000 Ok sorted.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on February 02, 2009, 01:19:43 PM +0000 The other servers do not usually have the terrain patch installed, we do. The FF patch does not affect joining servers
but the terrain patch does. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 02, 2009, 04:26:20 PM +0000 Quote from: Madd_RIP Cry I'm working for this too..............double sob I won't be there either (or any other monday) :( Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 04, 2009, 08:10:13 AM +0000 so great, two of the P&G stalwarts/enthusiasts (Madd & Paul) cant make mondays for P&G races :'(
I can only justify racing on a monday if i give up thursday races, and even thats pushing it being that i race sunday nights in the srouk enduros and then on a tuesday eve in the sprints. :o So its goodbye to GTL on thursdays for me then as i still think P&G is way superior over GTL, but my fear, as predicted, is the turn out may be low. :'( Could we have a show of hands on whos planning to race? Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 04, 2009, 08:33:44 AM +0000 Matt is on a late shift all week, thats Monday and Thursday ::) Its unfortunate for Paul but its just one of those things.
You can have a show of hands and you can continue to jump up and down waving them for all I care. I have answered this question enough times from you (and only you) already and you can paste my previous answers here for me ta. Can you not try and be positive? Its sad that you have to choose either this or GTL as thats something I wanted to avoid. If league race numbers are down through this I will have to act. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: TinMan on February 04, 2009, 08:35:24 AM +0000 'Mark Jonzo plays Marvin the Paranoid Android'
I shall be there. TC Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 04, 2009, 09:01:00 AM +0000 hehe, i always loved Marvin the android ! ;D
Im not trying to be negative ginsters, im trying to find out if its worth me getting into domestic grief with the boss if its not worth it due to a tiny turnout. ;) But i wouldnt miss this car and track combo whatever the number turn up :-* However i will miss the thursday race to compensate and if i value my kahunas. :o ..but also as a personal preference between the two classics sims. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 04, 2009, 10:08:05 AM +0000 I'll do my best to be here for this :)
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: BillThomas on February 04, 2009, 11:30:09 AM +0000 I expect to be there.
Bill Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on February 04, 2009, 01:24:40 PM +0000 As I am mostly working away from home through the week, I can do most weekday races as I choose
Friday and Sat would be politically awkward for me, and Sunday eve I am usually driving south, so that is mostly not an option. Sometimes I am driving Monday or Thursday eve. I will mostly be there Monday and Thursday, and even Tuesday GTR2 when I can. If it came to a vote, I would reluctantly choose GTL. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: mr_oily on February 04, 2009, 01:29:38 PM +0000 Good stuff, sounds like there'll be a few already.
Can't make this one as I'm still without Net access but I'll be up for future races... Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Alex vV on February 04, 2009, 02:18:07 PM +0000 Will try to make this one.
Same track choice helps a lot btw :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 04, 2009, 05:16:23 PM +0000 Well Mark, it looks like you've annoyed the Gods...................................They've changed our shift pattern in work (they threw their dummies out of the pram) .............................and I'll be able to attend BOTH Mid Ohio races.
So at least one Stalwart will be there. Plus, I suggest you try to start wearing trousers in your house :D , I find it far less draughty and more appealing on the eyes due to my hairy legs (no bloody way am I shaving them! :D ) My argument has always been that at least I'm not out drinking playing golf etc etc. I'm only upstairs. I do hope to see you in BOTH races Mark. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 04, 2009, 06:42:32 PM +0000 Mariage counseling from Madd... I like it. lol You obviously have a Mrs that lets you think you're wearing the trousers... the most cunning ladies those ones ;)
In fairness MJ, a man of your racing skills (recent race winner & current Championship leader) would only need 45mins. 5 mins to get loaded in & spin a lap in qually, then overtake us all during the race over 40 mins & log straight out & back to your Mrs. Eastenders will barely have finished & she wont notice you've been gone ;D (p.s. I recomend 'talking' while her programs are on... she'll soon send you of to go drive 8)) Maybe GothWitch could give us her view? ;) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 04, 2009, 08:37:02 PM +0000 Well, I decided to try the Mk1 GT40, default setup is understeer/no steer hell.
After some careful tweaking, initial pb is a 1.37.9 offline practice. I'm still unable to eradicate front end lift, but if I try to do that the car will come a spinner....everywhere, BUT it is far better on turn in and tbh is reasonably nimble in places with some judicious throttle inputs ;D . You should see the throttle,brake and steering inputs going nuts in motec!! :D Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: JPS on February 04, 2009, 10:06:59 PM +0000 I'll be there as it stands. :)
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 05, 2009, 09:04:31 AM +0000 hehe, thanks for the 'counselling' guys ;D Trust me, i do not roll over without a fight ! and LOL Madd, your statement about 'at least i am not out at the pub etc' is so true and has been used by me many times. Only problem is, i like the pub too ;)
I'll get her watching 'enders and Masterchef...should keep her distracted enough to disapear ;) Its probably more my guilt trip then her berrating, as i am gone for almost 2 hours on sunday eve then another hour or so on tuesday eve for the sprints and thursday for GTL. So sticking yet another night in on a monday may create friction :laugh: but no way am i missing these beauties in this amazing sim, hence saying i'd rather miss GTL. :angel: Glad you can make it Madd :) i went down and had a friendly word in the ear of your management :ninja: ;D Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: pribeiro on February 05, 2009, 12:29:35 PM +0000 On this very same day i must go to hospital for a little surgery. It can goes well or not so well (as the doctors said). If it run well, i problably back home at the afternoon. On the bad side i could stay there for some days. So my attendence depends of that factor. :-\
Cheers. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Truetom on February 05, 2009, 01:36:42 PM +0000 You're not gonna cut off your, errr... :(
Seriously, get well soon and come back. :thumbup1: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: pribeiro on February 05, 2009, 02:57:42 PM +0000 You're not gonna cut off your, errr... :( Seriously, get well soon and come back. :thumbup1: :laugh: No TT, but its near. I hope the doctor don't miss it. ;D And thanks. ;) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Truetom on February 05, 2009, 02:59:03 PM +0000 You're not gonna cut off your, errr... :( Seriously, get well soon and come back. :thumbup1: :laugh: No TT, but its near. I hope the doctor don't miss it. ;D And thanks. ;) Miss which? ;) Get well. 8) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Steve Holmes on February 05, 2009, 04:00:29 PM +0000 Yeah, hope it goes well PR, and we see you back on track straight away.
And we'll have no talk of :oops: by the doctors! Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Truetom on February 05, 2009, 05:49:59 PM +0000 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Gothwitch on February 05, 2009, 06:11:20 PM +0000 Maybe GothWitch could give us her view? ;) Ade could race every night Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 05, 2009, 07:09:12 PM +0000 You're not gonna cut off your, errr... :( Seriously, get well soon and come back. :thumbup1: :laugh: No TT, but its near. I hope the doctor don't miss it. ;D And thanks. ;) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 05, 2009, 09:43:24 PM +0000 What 911 are we using , the 3.0 or IRC ??
Only just started playing P&G and gotta say its bloody amazing!!! ;D Roll on Monday. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 05, 2009, 09:53:12 PM +0000 What 911 are we using , the 3.0 or IRC ?? I put RSR in announcement meaning 3.0 litre one, think thats right? Anyways, IROC version will follow next week :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 05, 2009, 10:00:41 PM +0000 Quote I put RSR in announcement meaning 3.0 litre one, think thats right? Anyways, IROC version will follow next week Smiley Sweet. ;) Anyone up for some praccy on the server in about half hours time? Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Jos Verstappen on February 05, 2009, 10:06:51 PM +0000 sure, I will join ya !
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 05, 2009, 10:20:23 PM +0000 I'll join in for half hour :)
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 05, 2009, 11:26:56 PM +0000 Got a nice set up with the 911 now , got down to a 1.33.8 with a bit more in hand. My set up is in the online folders for all the 911ers , ive got it feeling quite predictible .
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 06, 2009, 06:46:26 AM +0000 ;) Now that is quick, I must profess to being a useless 911 pilot, I drive them like 'normal' cars and just find them difficult. ::)
I suppose its something to keep learning to master though. :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 06, 2009, 08:23:59 AM +0000 Great time Dan :o 8) Missed the practise announcement or i would have joined you late last night. :(
and glad you like the mod..its amazing ! 8) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 06, 2009, 10:25:06 AM +0000 Quote and glad you like the mod..its amazing ! Cool Yeah it is amazing... Gives you a tingle down the spine when you get things right. . 8) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: paulwbird on February 06, 2009, 10:39:08 AM +0000 I don't have a copy of GTR2 so can't join the fun - if my PC runs GTL reasonably well will it run the mod/GTR2 OK? I am going to download the GTR2 demo tonight and see how that runs. The mod sounds very good, especially with variable weather.
Paul Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 06, 2009, 11:38:27 AM +0000 you can get hold of GTR2 pretty cheap these days i believe Paul. Not sure if true but i have heard some on here say that GTR2 runs smoother on their systems than GTL. :-\
Hanging onto your shirt tails Dan...1:34.3 for me in the RSR now 8) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 06, 2009, 01:56:07 PM +0000 Oooooooooooooh I forsee a scrap between the Porker pilots! ;D
Hmm maybe I should give it another chance.................but the sound of the Gt40's...............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :drool: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 06, 2009, 04:21:01 PM +0000 1:35.043 in the Mk1 GT40 now :)
when you get that turn 1 right, with just the right amount of power slide and that lairy throaty engine screaming away, its just bliss :wub: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 06, 2009, 04:25:56 PM +0000 in the standard mk 1?
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 06, 2009, 11:00:31 PM +0000 Hope not! that's 2 seconds quicker than my pb :o, I reckon Mark's got Nitrous.....ban him! :ban: :P
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 07, 2009, 09:13:52 AM +0000 it was in the Mk1 Gulf GT40. Not tried any other Mk1 GT40, did not realise they were different.
Is that a Le Mans special then ? It seems to have a very stiff front end as base. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 07, 2009, 10:15:12 AM +0000 They are quite different. I asked the main guy in the png2 team why they drove so differently and his response was:
Quote The first 1965 Mk1 cars where absolutely terrible (I'm talking about the real cars). Actually the Shelby cobra Daytona coupè were everywhere faster than the first Mk1s. They were only abbandoned, because Ford had decided to push the GT40 project because they wanted to beat ferrari with a car named ford and not "shelby". FIA changed rules in 1966 for the sportscar and prototype championshio, hoping to bring a big fight between the major manufacturers. Instead of that, the big 3 (Ford, Ferrari, Porsche), decided to focus on single races for various reasons. Ford focus was on the LeMans 24 hours and all the decisions for the car was about an extremely powerful , reliable and with the highest possible top speed car that was a perfect match for the long straigths and hard accelerations of LeMans circuit. Just to put things under perspective, while the GT40 MK2 won at Le Mans, it was still behind the only 2 Ferraris 330P4 (Ferrari in big financial trouble couldn't afford to bring more cars!) until the first 6 hours. Then the Ferraris retired with reliability problems or because of long stops at the pits. At nurburgring the GT40s were devastated by the little 2 liter 906! On races like targa florio and the like, the GT40s wouldn't even appear... Even more, Ford was aware of the problems and in the mean time was trying to create a more aerodynamic, lighter and faster car with the codename J project. The car was designed with the aid of the computers and should be able to reach 400+km/h and do laptimes at lemans 5 seconds faster than the mk2... The result was that the car couldn't even go over 300km/h because of big aerodinamic instability problems and it was retired from the race. Later on, in some private tests at riverside, Ken Miles, the best Ford driver, engineer and development driver, loses his life when the car does something strange at 280km/h... the loss was so important for Ford that stopped all together the J project. Year after year tyres evolution have a major impact in cars handling. The small Alpine renault A210 (prototypes based on the A110), manage to do almost the same lap times as the racing icons 250GTOs some years ago! In 1969 the fat tyred GT40 MK1 Gulf have little to share with the original MK1 and MK2. Suspension from MK2 but even better, improved aerodinamics (more balanced and with much less lift at the front, a big problem for original mk1 and mk2s), much wider and with fat tyres and also much lighter. All of this makes those cars so much better to drive. I could go on forever... but I really really advice you to check this fantastic website for some very nice information of the history of those glorious years http://www.imca-slotracing.com/QUIZZ1.htm It's long, multiple pages, but it is really worth it! Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Gothwitch on February 07, 2009, 12:49:18 PM +0000 Oooooooooooooh I forsee a scrap between the Porker pilots! ;D (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc75/gothwitch_bucket/james.jpg)Hmm maybe I should give it another chance.................but the sound of the Gt40's...............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :drool: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 07, 2009, 05:33:25 PM +0000 Incredible and fascinating info there Paul, Almost true Gothwitch, but from what I hear of his taste for speed, james would probably have bought a GT2 'widowmaker', turned of all the electronic aids and still obliterated the car and unfortunately himself. :(
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: dynosaur on February 07, 2009, 07:01:14 PM +0000 Got a nice set up with the 911 now , got down to a 1.33.8 with a bit more in hand. My set up is in the online folders for all the 911ers , ive got it feeling quite predictible . Thanks for the setup, I´m useless with Porsche, but got 1:34:8 with your setup, made some little modifications for my own liking though. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 08, 2009, 12:28:00 PM +0000 Great site you linked to Paul, nice one 8)
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: paulwbird on February 08, 2009, 02:33:53 PM +0000 Ordered a copy of GTR2, won't be here in time for this test but count me in for the next one.
Diki Waza Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 08, 2009, 02:40:40 PM +0000 Real shame to miss out tomorrow - all the cars would be great to try (at least I don't have that dilemma to worry about!). My best times in the main cars on the server so far are:
911 - 1.33.7 Gulf GT40 - 1.33.2 906 - 1.34.5 The 906 is brilliant when you get near the edge, and the gulf car is such a challenge that it is great fun. The 911 is probably the best race car though - lovely balance :). Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Gothwitch on February 08, 2009, 09:06:14 PM +0000 Incredible and fascinating info there Paul, Almost true Gothwitch, but from what I hear of his taste for speed, james would probably have bought a GT2 'widowmaker', turned of all the electronic aids and still obliterated the car and unfortunately himself. :( Well ..not that Im a James Dean freak or nothing.. or that my son is named after him.. but.. the car in which he died was a Porsche Spyder, Donald Turnupsteed took him out on a highway, broken neck etc.. but the weird thing was that the car carried on to do more weird stuff. The wreckage was bought by a second hand car dealer who showed it off for 25 cents a gawp then it was sold to car designer George Barris, who planned to sell it off for parts... on arrival it rolled off the trucks breaking both legs of a mechanic.. undeterred Barris sold the parts. Dr Troy Mchenry bought the engine, his car crashing first trip out with the item seriously injuring him, he later transferred this to a race car (another porsche spyder) only to be killed during a race at Pomona Fairground! The shell of the Dean car was being transported to a road safety exhibition when it skidded and crashed killing the driver. Other parts killed too, the transmission kiled a doctor and the two good tyres both popped simultaniously but only seriously injuring the driver !! Weird heh!Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 09, 2009, 05:37:16 PM +0000 An icy pitch means that I am able to join you all tonight. I'll probably be in the 911.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 09, 2009, 05:42:58 PM +0000 Quote An icy pitch means that I am able to join you all tonight. I'll probably be in the 911. Aint you heard of metal spikes intsead of studs Paul..would be interesting. Be good to race with you again mate. ;) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 09, 2009, 05:46:16 PM +0000 Quote Aint you heard of metal spikes intsead of studs Paul..would be interesting. Metal spikes don't work too well on astroturf Dan ;) Quote Be good to race with you again mate. Wink Really looking forward to it now :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 09, 2009, 06:02:28 PM +0000 Quote Metal spikes don't work too well on astroturf Dan Wink :D Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 09, 2009, 06:53:57 PM +0000 The electric is going up & down in our street tonight more regular then a 'professional ladies' ;) knickers... so hope to still make it, but who kno
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 09, 2009, 06:56:04 PM +0000 Couldn't find this thread last time as I didn't think to look in here :-[
Am hoping to join you, won't be that quick I suspect as I don't really drive any of these cars - But will probably field something improbable ;D Don't know what yet...... Now to get some practice in for tomorrows GPL race in while I still can! Oh, do I have to race as FullMetalGasket like it says at the top of this page for me? As on GPL I race under my real name so would rather that as it saves creating a new profile :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 09, 2009, 07:02:01 PM +0000 Welcome aboard FMG :) Thanks to Daves voodoo, no new profile will be necessary.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 09, 2009, 07:11:30 PM +0000 It is crashing for me again with Matt on the server ???
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: watty on February 09, 2009, 07:23:44 PM +0000 Hi guys,
I have been racing GTL for ages over at Nogrip but would like to have a go at some PnG2 with you if that is o.k.? Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 09, 2009, 07:33:57 PM +0000 Now fixed - I turned the other car detail down.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: dynosaur on February 09, 2009, 07:42:26 PM +0000 Crashing for me.... :(
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 09, 2009, 07:54:56 PM +0000 Hi guys, I have been racing GTL for ages over at Nogrip but would like to have a go at some PnG2 with you if that is o.k.? Of course Watty, welcome aboard :) Could you just make sure you fill your driver details in so I can import results easily (I'm useless with technology), ta. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 09, 2009, 08:09:16 PM +0000 I can't get in?
Keeps telling me it's a bad password ??? Have tried both the usual pre race one and the one above..... Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 09, 2009, 08:13:34 PM +0000 I've restarted server now FMG, try with pw above.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 09, 2009, 08:16:30 PM +0000 Worked - in now ;D
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: BillThomas on February 09, 2009, 08:27:33 PM +0000 Paul thanks for info on turning down other car details to cure CTDs at the start. Unfortunately still have the problem.
It works perfectly OK offline all the time. Last night online with Steve for a while and also watty, went on line this morning and early this evening without problems. Hope to see y'all in a fortnight on P&G and Thursday GTL on same track. Bill Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 09, 2009, 09:15:08 PM +0000 Bad luck Bill see you next time.
Crap race for me my concentration was non existent , Had a nice Battle with Ade. Grats Matt on the win..STOMPED it! well done podium. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: JPS on February 09, 2009, 09:19:20 PM +0000 First Race3 on P&G awesome sim when displaying and driving these 70's Beasts. 911RSR What a car 8)
Had 11th in the bag whilst driving most of the race up Ossie's gearbox, great drive Ossie..consistant, then my engine blew a couple of corners from the from the finish on the last lap...what rotten luck :'( Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: watty on February 09, 2009, 09:33:45 PM +0000 Thanks guys, really enjoyed the race but felt guilty about holding some of you up(especially Mark) on the twisty bits and then taking the micky on the straights!
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: phspok on February 09, 2009, 09:35:47 PM +0000 Not the most fun race I've had, I am crap with rear engines, 906 was most consistent, 911 I struggle to get
2 fast laps in without a visit to the fence, GT40 Gulf, was my best bet for some racing, was having fun dicing with Simon went wide in 2nd to last to give him room, then got spun into the pit wall in last turn. sigh. 2nd time in two races, last time I was a bit slower into a corner than previous laps, but it wasn't the same lap I bounced off the wall. I suppose I should take it a a compliment that people feel comfy racing that close :-) but it's beginning to wear a tad. :scared: At one point I thought the dreaded warp factor had returned as I passed Lazlow on the straight and he promptly spun into the wall, I thought maybe i'd warped into him, was on the verge of leaving but everything looked smooth here. Checked replay, and it seems he was so awed by my masterful pass, that the wind blew him off the track onto the grass which spun him accross the track! Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 09, 2009, 09:50:28 PM +0000 Firstly many apologies for start, the Gt40's sun visor is too good, its opaque ::) , so its impossible to see the lights, so I was hoping Paul would have seen them so I could be prompted, but unfortunatley not, so many apologies for that.
As for the race, it was a good hard and fair scrap with Paul and Ian, the porker was outdragged easily on the straights so I was able to stick with Ian, we had an amazing scrap through the corners after the back straight, we were side by side and not bumping at all, then Ian twitched, I lifted and Paul snuck through, swine! I followed them for a bit then again out dragged Paul and eventually got past Ian under braking on the start/finish straight, close, good, fair racing. Brilliant stuff Ian, (check out our scrap Martin, don't give up hope! side by side can be done) Also well done to Ade, from what I saw you had a stormer, I think you may have found your car! grats to the podium and to everyone who finished. :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 09, 2009, 10:08:30 PM +0000 That was good fun, will have to try and make it next time :)
Was happy with very nearly being the fastest 906, as I've never even driven one in anger before ;D I'm more a fan of the big FR V8's personally. Think I was 9th (?) by the end and managed the entire race without so much as punting a single person :angel: Glad the coin landed tails up as I nearly ran a MK2, took me ages to get one under :40 when I had a quick go after the race! Cheers for the race everyone 8) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 09, 2009, 10:19:20 PM +0000 Only really practiced in MKII GT40, which was rather tough ;), so was pleasantly surprised to be on the the pace quickly in the gorgeous Gulf version. I would advise all budding GT drivers to pracci in MK II and you'll find the Gulf version a breeze for race :)
First few laps were glorious fun with Matt and Paul. Side by side for a while until I rather lost it and squeezed you, quite by accident, Matt. My lack of a race setup told really, as I squirmed everywhere at start, sorry gents. Settled down eventually, Matt dissapeared into distance and it was now his hombre Dans turn to hastle me. To be quite honest, it wasn't hard to keep him at bay by plonking the GT on the apexes and just leave him for dead on the straights. Glad server stopped early as he would have worked something out I'm sure. Prolly pure frustration from where he sat (revenge for taking the "powerful" Elite around Monaco maybe ;)) Although times were samey the GT40 vs 911 RSR was not a great combo from where I sat. How did the 906 vs 911 fights feel? Nice turnout and a good test with some unfortunate glitches. Bill, see if you have better luck and shout here for help. Can't remember who couldn't get on grid and, even though I felt your frustration, could you please tone the language down. Talking from my own experiences, swearing will not see you appear back on the grid ;) Standards were good, as expected and thx to lappees for letting us past so cleanly. Soz to Legzy for brown trouser moment into T1, you should know by now I don't know what I'm doing. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 09, 2009, 11:12:36 PM +0000 That was great fun and nice to see a great turnout in a good mix of the available cars, so well done all :-*
These cars certainly make you work for any kind of reward ! :P Struggled in qually, finding other cars around me a distraction after only doing solo practise, and just could not get a decent quick time in. Qualied 8th in the tasty RSR and quite peeved to not bag a good sub 1:35 time. Race start went well apart from having to lift to avoid rear ending a sluggish GT40, allowing 1 or 2 others to attack me from the off. Soon got into a decent rhythm on the back of the top 6 but not really able to close until TT went grass cutting. I duly nipped past and chased Dan in 4th for a few laps before i ran wide at T2 chicane and lost 3 places. ::) That was my only mistake of the race and it unfortunately sealed my doom for the rest of the race as i got stuck behind Watty's GT in 8th place. It was good fun and i loved watching his GT in action but ultimately frustrating for lap after lap as it was costing me a lot of time in the twisties and corners, only for him to be able to scamper off on the two straights, despite my close pressure. Finally on lap 17 of 18, he ran just wide enough for me to get alongside in sector 2 where the RSR was superior over the GT, and it was what i needed to just sneak in front and get away and claim 7th place. 8) Nice clean racing Watty :angel: The cars looked and sounded fantastic, and this is an excellent track...liked the flashbulbs going off, a nice touch 8) I would have enjoyed the race in any of the available cars but was never going to pass up the rare opportunity of racing the P&G classic 1970's RSRs, though those GTs certainly look and feel amazing :) GT40's at Le Mans anyone ?. ;) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 09, 2009, 11:33:45 PM +0000 How did the 906 vs 911 fights feel? They were a bit more onesided from where I was sat, Although my biggest scraps were with M Jonzo who'd been way quicker than me in Qually and kept me at bay fairly easily. And someone in a Wally's Jeans 911 who made the mistake of trying to outbrake me at turn 7 and as a result visited the sand trap (China Beach???). Otherwise the 906's seemed slightly too underpowered to stay with the 911's for long, only places where I could gain on the car infront were turns 7 thru 9, Carousel and the chicane were I was braking later and carrying slightly more speed through. The 911's seemed the have both acceleration and hi-er speed corners in their favour - Although my setup may have simply sucked as I created it during the course of qualifying ::) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: dynosaur on February 10, 2009, 07:40:47 AM +0000 It was a bummer cause I couldn´t get in, always a ctd after loading track. What was interesting was that I was in driving a couple of laps, then there was a freeze at the start line, a ctd and after that I was not able to get in.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 10, 2009, 07:56:37 AM +0000 whats next on the plans for a P&G round, oh Ginsters wise one? ;D
Last night was a good success and proved the P&G mod is popular, even attracting some new faces. :) Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 10, 2009, 08:41:54 AM +0000 Quote now his hombre Dans turn to hastle me Think that was Ade , i was only in front of Ade for a few laps and never got close to you mate. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: TinMan on February 10, 2009, 09:16:04 AM +0000 Just for info - I kept getting CTD, also just after joining. A bit wierd as I'd previously practised online without any problem at this track.
TC Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 10, 2009, 09:17:53 AM +0000 What tyres did people in the 911 use for the race??
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Geoffers on February 10, 2009, 09:19:47 AM +0000 It was a bummer cause I couldn´t get in, always a ctd after loading track. What was interesting was that I was in driving a couple of laps, then there was a freeze at the start line, a ctd and after that I was not able to get in. Dynosaur, did you try deleting the HAT file for the track before rejoining? Usually works for me. I often get a CTD when rejoining after the server is restarted for qually, deleting the HAT file usually cures it. Happens in GTL as well. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: pribeiro on February 10, 2009, 09:28:55 AM +0000 Qualified in 6th with the 906. Only one race so far, but i believe it could match with 911 and maybe with the GT40 MK2. I really can't make a conclusion because after first corner i was in last position ::)
My fault tho, i was with a bit of effect of the anesthesia :nuke: :wacko: :yawn: that i took in the morning. But i was very commited to attend to this event. :sweatdrop: :lol: Afterwords, my goal was recover many places as i could. I did it for 9th place and i was joining the 7th and 8th cars when the race was over ??? 10 minutes/7 laps earlier :o GTR2 bug (not the first time this happen). So in future rather make lap races instead time races As for the 906 vs 911 pace, only first race in a fast track, but i do believe they match quite well. Maybe with Corvette L88. Don't know haven't tried yet. Absolutely a mod we must take it. By the way, started in 6th and saw perfectly well the lights. Cheers. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 10, 2009, 09:31:35 AM +0000 Had a really enjoyable race although the result wasn't what I hoped for. Had pole with something to spare in the end but like Madd I couldn't see the lights on the grid. The first I knew was when Ginsters tapped me sideways as he dived between us, and by the time I had gathered it up Madd was ahead too. The first few laps were great fun, with the GT40s slower everywhere except the main straight where they just disappeared - literally! I did manage to get ahead of Madd at one point, but Ian's GT40 ahead prevented me from getting any sort of gap before the straight came round - again he was miles down the road by the end even after starting well behind me ::)
After Madd passed Ginsters I was then looking for a way past him, and as he went a bit wide at the long left onto the straight I stuck my nose down the inside but he may not have seen me there. He squeezed me slightly towards the inside on the exit and in trying to avoid I took too much curb and spun it round - doh! By the time I was back on track I was in 6th and then 7th as Watty came by on the straight. We then had several fun laps as I tried to engineer a way past his monster, which I finally managed round the outside of the last long left hander. This time I had a chance to extend the gap before the straight thankfully. TT was next some way up the road, but I gradually reeled him in and passed when he had a big wobble out of the last corner. Had a nice little battle with Dan after a spin brought him back to me, ending in a pass at the end of the straight. I had just caught up with the Ade/Ginsters battle when the race ended prematurely :taz: Overall the racing was terrific though, although I agree that the GT40 is too much of a mismatch for the other cars. Once in front it is a nightmare to pass with so much extra grunt, although had I not been tag-teamed at the start I don't think they quite had the pace to keep up. Congrats to Madd and to teamies Ginsters & especially Ade - great drive :clap: Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 10, 2009, 09:48:02 AM +0000 What tyres did people in the 911 use for the race?? i was on the biasply softs Dan. Tyre wear seemed fine over the shortish race distance. What did others use? Radials are supposed to be the better tyre but i cant say i have found more pace in my limited tests with them. Getting the blinking tyre pressures right seems to be the biggest challenge ! Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 10, 2009, 09:53:20 AM +0000 Biasply softs. Can you choose a radial with the RSR?
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 10, 2009, 10:06:23 AM +0000 only the IROC's I think
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Legzy on February 10, 2009, 10:10:22 AM +0000 Soz to Legzy for brown trouser moment into T1, you should know by now I don't know what I'm doing. :lol: I had so much confidence in you I thought you were doing some fancy show off power slide move that you probably did there every lap... So no brown trousers for me ;), maybe there should have been :lol:Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Paul968 on February 10, 2009, 11:47:39 AM +0000 Lapchart (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.harrington/mid%20ohio%20png%20090209/)
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 10, 2009, 12:23:27 PM +0000 Sorry gents, didn't have time to enter results before work called this morning. They will be with you first thing tonight, along with details of next weeks race at Laguna (server up by the way)
Soz to Legzy for brown trouser moment into T1, you should know by now I don't know what I'm doing. :lol: I had so much confidence in you I thought you were doing some fancy show off power slide move that you probably did there every lap... So no brown trousers for me ;), maybe there should have been :lol:Ta for that Legzy, I knew exactly how to do that ;) Apologies to Ade, great drive and I hope you take it as a compliment that I got you and Dan mixed up. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Jos Verstappen on February 10, 2009, 03:13:31 PM +0000 here's race report:
None :( I was checking out my setup and I tottally forgot the timer, never had that before with gtr2 :smackshimselfonthehead: anyways, I hope we'll have P&G races more often :p Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 10, 2009, 05:18:37 PM +0000 Results done now and replay in normal slot.
Shame to hear that a few experienced CTD problems. Hopefully that was track specific, I did have a fps problems coming into s/f line, so please try again next Monday :) If you have time, try server before hand and report back. Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: dynosaur on February 11, 2009, 09:51:19 AM +0000 It was a bummer cause I couldn´t get in, always a ctd after loading track. What was interesting was that I was in driving a couple of laps, then there was a freeze at the start line, a ctd and after that I was not able to get in. Dynosaur, did you try deleting the HAT file for the track before rejoining? Usually works for me. I often get a CTD when rejoining after the server is restarted for qually, deleting the HAT file usually cures it. Happens in GTL as well. No I didn´t try that, I will next time, for it was really frustrating to see it go down when I was expecting a nice race with 911..... Thanks Geoffers and others for some tips. I remember having this at one time with GTL too... Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Minton on February 11, 2009, 03:17:34 PM +0000 I used softs as well, my tires felt ok towards the end. Still cant get them to work properly on the front maybe it was the nature of the track but i havnt driven it anywhere else so couldnt say. Sure the car would feel much better if you could get the fronts up to around 85 degrees instead of 65 to 70.
Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Mark J on February 11, 2009, 03:56:52 PM +0000 Sure the car would feel much better if you could get the fronts up to around 85 degrees instead of 65 to 70. funny enough i spoke to one of the mod creators about that today. He implied that 60 degrees is good enough heat for a front tyre on the 911's, but having felt the difference between a warmer and colder one on track, im not convinced ! Especially as only a few statements earlier he confirmed to me that the 70's tyres in P&G are more akin to the modern GT tyres needing around 90 degrees. ::) (note the 60's cars optimum is 85 degrees). If anyone discovers the secret of getting some warmth in those front tyres, please share !! :P Title: Re: Power and Glory v2 Mod test - Mid-Ohio - Feb 9 Post by: Madd-RIP on February 11, 2009, 10:51:59 PM +0000 drag the brakes till they lock.......all around the track :P
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