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Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:25	(20 mins)
Race:	20:45	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT2 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Seeded from real-world conditions, fixed for the full event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero)
Track: UKGTR Imola GP 2004 (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=199;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Chance of snow again??? is anybody messing around with the weather? lol

After a quick go I'm on mid 48's, lap records should be beaten if the race is dry

At this time of year the weather isnt going to to be changing too much, it was only a week ago we raced here. Looking forward to this, though i'll see tonight just how bad the porka is around here!

After the sublime handling of the GTC version, its back to the heavy engineering of the RSR ???. Race pace for me is around a 1.52 but the front tyres are stone cold, front left barely gets above 50deg.

A rubbishy Radical race earlier and then after an hour of practice and qually my codding net connection goes mammaries up and I can't join the grid except on my roof.

Piffle.

ps. The only thing worse than having your qually lap ruined by someone driving up your chuff is when you make a mistake as a result, so let them by, only to have them cod the final chicane up and ruin your next lap too. >:(

Got back from holiday just in time for this, Qualified surprisingly well in my Porka BiTurbo considering no practice. My internet provider Virgin Media sent me out a new hub stating this was the cause of my recent woes because the original was too old...expecting no issues with this new box in place, quali was a bit juddery plus a black screen on the connection front, got back into quali and then just when me and my car were all fired up on the grid red lights/green lights my screen went black and I had to re boot my computer :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:

back to the internet provider I guess unless anyone else has any other suggestions?

Great race Truetom. That felt almost like one of our old classics then towards the end of that race. Occasionally broken up with difficulty getting past lappees, but all good fun and was always close but safe racing with you as per normal. Finishing third is a total shock. :)

I was really surprised I was so far up the grid as the car didn't feel that great and I ended up making even more changes to the setup before the race with no testing. Needed better turn in and so on so was stiffening the rear etc. Tyre wear was so low I ran soft soft slicks without a problem. Even when the air temperature was 30 degrees my rear tyres were the only ones getting into the green (just). I completely guessed the fuel this race cause I didn't get my calculator out in time (was peeing in the 2 minute countdown), bunged in 60 litres and finished with 1.7 left and that was after being fairly careful with fuel consumption during the race when I realised it looked pretty tight on fuel.

Well done Gazza and Busi at the front, you were miles ahead at the end, awesome pace.

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090217%20U9LS/index.html)

Cracking race Gazza, well deserved win ;)

It looked as if we were in a couple of rockets (don't think we had car advantage though...) and we qualified 1st and 2nd both in the Panoz, disappearing after two race laps. I was trying to keep the pressure for the whole race but he never made a mistake. I was only faster through Acque Mineralli and I always got close arriving at the Variante Alta but you can't outbrake there too little braking zone, so I had to back off and he was much faster through that chicane so I couldn't try any overtake.

Well done mate, specially keeping it all together when you found 3 backmarkers fighting and I think you had to be careful there. I could close again but couldn't try the move :) nice stuff

A good result for me.

I qualified 7th and lost a place to Roadrunner on the warm up lap for reasons that still puzzle me.  ;D

I had good battles with Mark Jonzo and Carl Hart both of whom were faster than me especially in the area around the high chicane (I can never work out how to go quick there.) Mark got through as eventually did Carl after many laps close behind only to give me the place back when he made a mistake a lap or two later. I hung on desperately at the end which got really interesting as we caught Tibs on the very last lap.

Apologies to JohnB1970 for the tap when trying to lap you. I mis-read your intentions and tried to pass you off the racing line just as you moved over to make space. I am not used to lapping people but have much more experience being lapped. Sorry if I spoiled your race.

Thanks Busi, great racing.

Im guessing you didnt get a proper qually lap in so was lucky there as i think if you had been infront of me i wouldnt of been able to stay with you.

I was a little quicker at either end of the lap but you were alot quicker than me in the middle part of the track and everytime we came up to Acque Mineralli i knew you would be right on my bumper. Like you say it would of been very risky for you to try a pass at that chicane. With about 10 mins to go i think you made an error and i had a gap but came up to two slower cars having their own battle and they werent gunna make it easy for me to get through and i followed them through the last chicane but he got crossed up and came right across the track and hit me but lucky i managed to keep straight but this let Busi right on my tail again  :-[

Just tried to not make any mistakes and held on to the win  :)

Grats simon for 3rd.

p.s the funniest thing was seeing Busi getting sideways and crossed up on nearly every corner which i thought would give me a gap but you held it everytime and come the next corner you were right there again!! lol

That was a tough old race.

Qually was yet another disaster, 2 'connection losts'  ??? and twice i was severely blocked on a flying lap by people slowing down right in the middle of the first fast chicane  ??? ..what the hell ? I can only assume i was invisible to you both from my discos otherwise it was pretty poor driving.  >:( Finally got a semi decent lap in with only few mins remaining to grab 9th.

My lower than hoped qually slot had me behind Profs beemer and unfortunately it sealed my doom for the rest of the race. Not to take anything away from Prof as we enjoyed a very close battle for about the first 10mins, but i had to keep braking so hard behind him to avoid rear ending, when he braked way earlier than me, that i ended up dislodging my pedals off the race frame  :o
I got by him eventually when he ran wide on one corner and set about chasing the top 7 who by now had a 7 sec advantage down the road  :(
Unfortunately my wayward pedals continued to slide further away and at an angle of almost 40 degrees making life really difficult in the last 15-20 mins, meaning i was condemned to a solo race of 'hotlapping with errors'  :P with no way of catching the front group and only falling back to Prof when i had a shaky corner.

Finished a lacklustre 6th, which wasnt too bad a result considering my predicament.  :)

Panoz FTW ;D thats why I like it, lovely to drive sideways

That would explain my nosebleed being so far up the grid in such august company. I know my place really!!  :laugh:

Well...seems i made a right mess of this one...Sorry to Dave..believe im the one your refering to in qualy, i hold my hands up to it..and to prof...didnt pay attention to me grid position so never realised  :-[ :-[...can only get better for the next one

For once I didn't have a freeze or disco in P1/Q2. Qualified 4th, finished 4th. Race was ok, had a scrap with Lazlow at first. We had some close laps and we touched twice (pm sent). Then with Shark 'till the end of time.  ;)  Not much to be said, one of the peaks of my racing here. Only bantering with MJ comes close.  ;D

After the last two races there a few things to be said. I held back after Anderstorp, waiting for any response from the staff, but...  :-\

Guys, when you're about to be lapped, let off the throttle, don't race the driver 1 lap in front. Please don't take this as flaming or shaking fingers or tripple axel.  :)  Some are relatively new here so this is just a friendly tap on the shoulder. Even if you race the guy next to you, who is also a lap behind: I know you're racing and my heart bleeds for you, but move away, ease off the throttle. Especially in the same class racing a car lapping you doesn't have any more power than yours, so he can't overtake on power and if you're on racing line at corner entry/exit he can't pass there either.

Yesterday we and Shark were close racing for at least half of the race, we were inside 1 sec difference the whole time, changing places and the guy behind always putting a pressure on. Some laps to go and we encountered two drivers a lap behind. One eased off, one didn't (fair?). Shark had to use the line outside the track to get by, getting a warning for cutting the track. I couldn't get by for at least another kilometer and by the time I did I was 2,5 seconds behind Shark. Race ended there, efectively. Apart from directly influencing podium outcome, how was that fair to the driver also 1 lap behind who eased off?  :(   It was done similarly, though more excessively, at Anderstorp.   :-X

Again, I'd like this to be an example of how things don't go here. If you're a lap down, racing another guy is not a valid excuse to block a car lapping you. Saying that, punting away drivers that don't let you pass is also not valid.  :nono:   Make a report and the moderator will do his appointed job.  :euro:

I hope this can be treated as direction for general behaviour. After all, this is supposed to be a friendly competition. I welcome the new guys, it's always good to have new faces, new drivers and new challenges.  8)

Bad luck to JPS and MJ for their ISP problems.  :(   Reading MJ's report I must admire how well the cars are ballanced (well done Pseudododo and his crew ;) ). Apart from Panoz, of course.  :D

Grats to podium, well done Lazlow and Shark, this is the stuff I come here for.  :)

TT

P.S. Get away from that iRetching hotlaping, Simon. This is where the racing is done.  ;)

Holey moley !  ;)

Had a great race but a last lap incident leaves me sheepish!  :-[

Big apology to Evert. We were having an excellent battle, very close racing! I had been catching him over the last few laps of the race but could not get past! :)
Lost concentration and completely missed my braking point for turn 1 by an absolute mile! Unfortunately clipped Evert and spun him round.
Waited for Evert to turn round and continue etc. but then Legzy comes round the corner at warp factor 10 and ploughs into Evert.
Another apology to my Team mate Legzy :( that completely wiped him out! Sorry buddy.
Evert was obviously damaged but continued so I followed with no intention of passing him!
Unfortunately it was 2 laps to the end and we lost a couple of positions each, despite lots of defensive driving on my part.
Looks like we scrapped 11th and 12th!

Really disappointed with myself. Pride myself in racing without incidents but I guess we all make mistakes!

Ho hum!

M.

Meant to say....

How the hell do you aliens go so fast!?

Big mystery! Please share!  ;D

Please accept my apologies Truetom - I have a feeling that I may have been one of the cars that got in your way.  Really sorry about that and I'll take a look at the replay to learn from my mistakes here.  I'd had a couple of small offs and simply got mixed up as to whether the cars that had caught me were because I'd spun or because I'd been caught by the race leaders.  It also came at the same point where I was racing another white F430 and to be honest I lost track of which white F430 was which.  Anyhow, sorry - no excuse for causing problems like this I know.  I'm new on UKGTR but have done plenty of online racing over the years to know better.

Will hope to improve with time hopefully!  Unfortunately I'd had no time to adjust the car so it was just the default set-up which seemed okay, but not very competitive.

Anyhow, I really enjoyed the race and will hope to take part in more in the future.

Cheers, Ross.

Glad to have you, Ross.  8)

Erm, pressing "Tab" helps a lot...  ;)

TT

Yeah, I was doing that but I could see any label for cars behind me but will check this - I could well have just missed them in the heat of the moment.

Makes it sound like it was my fault  :o :o :o

Not my intention buddy! :) My fault!

Well, I just switch it on at the start of any session and leave it on for the whole time...race included.  :)

Had a great race again. Car felt all wrong during qually but managed a decent lap somehow?

Race was going well, had some good laps at the start chasing Picnic, till I got past & set about catching Matt took a few laps & was most enjoyable but sadly Matt missed his breaking (trying to make sure I didn't outbreak him I think) at the early high speed chicane & hit the sand. Didn't even manage to hold that position for two laps as I had a mini off which just allowed Evert & Picnic through. Set about chasing Picnic again & felt I was a little quicker over enough of the lap but he drove very well & I couldn't find a way past & I could see Evert opening a gap. Tried to force a move at the final chicane & procreated it up, so badly that I missed everything by a mile (including picnic) as I ran straight through the chicane & picked up my 1st cut warning ::). Immediately flashed Picnic threw & gave chase again. A lap or so later he got the power down too early at the chicane & I was through... but so was another car... "Hello Blunder" I said on TS.
Luckily I was able to blast away from my teammate on the next lap as I set my best lap of the race at that point by a clear second or more with the free space in front of me for the 1st time. Pushed really hard for a couple of laps, gaining slowly on Evert & eeking away from Blunder when I got my 2nd cut warning ::) as my tyres suddenly went off some. Driving more cautiously now, Evert was keeping our gap steady & Blunder was just finding his pace, so I called team orders & let him past as I was happy to see out the last 10 mins holding my position & avoiding a potential stop/go as my fronts were really starting to struggle to turn in. Not sure I'd have been able to fend him off for more then a couple of laps anyway.
I was happy sat just over a second behind Martin & Evert for the remaining laps, with no fear of being caught from behind as I had a good cushion. Sadly my race finished two laps early, as Martin & Evert came together at that high speed chicane one. As I went from maxed out, hit my breaking point perfectly, still breaking as I turned in, turned out the other way balancing the throttle ready for the next turn.... 'Oh carp! It's a road block!!!'... that was pretty much my thoughts as I found myself ramming into the right side of Evert's car (on the right) as I did my best to swerve/avoid. Killed my engine/suspension dead instantly as I flicked off him into the sand as I sent him pointing in the right direction to continue down the track. If it was a game of pool it would have been a half decent trick shot... but it was a race & mine was over as I sank from 11th to 17th :'(.

I know Martin feels terrible about this, so I can sense plenty of mileage/pints out of him for it in the future  ;D ;D ;D

But all in all a most enjoyable race where I never spent more then half a lap feeling like I was harassing or being harassed. More more more please!

Well done all & make mine a Guinness buddy  :D

To see who it is coming up behind you & more importantly what position they're in, you need to look backwards (not in the mirror & only when it's safe to do so)... the default button to look back is "B". Should make it easier  8)

I have fixed a button to my wheel to blink :blink: :scared: back from time to time.  ;)

TT

Yeah, I think I'll have to do the same - I have a triple screen set-up so the labels get very stretched and split across the monitor frames and so they're quite distracting, but I realise that I definitely need to know who I'm racing on track so I'll get it sorted.

It was really just unfortunate that I ended up racing mr_oily on track (a colleague of mine at work) in his white F430 and then you and Simon came storming through in the same cars.  I'd just not realised that he'd been replaced by you - anyhow, enough of the excuses ;)

Will definitely do this, ta.

Did you race elsewhere before, Ross?  :)

LOL - I didn't realise you get lapped that often TT?!  ;)
You'll be happy to hear, I've never had a problem lapping you TT  ;D

I do, though mostly by higher class cars.  :-*  That's why I drive GT1 this season.  :D

TT

A quick hello and sincere apologies for some shocking driving on my return to the hotseat - just terrible throughout qually and the race...no idea what was going on but like any good racing driver it obviously wasn't my fault. I'm blaming the hardware/ setup/ tyres/ what I had for lunch.

Great to finally see you on track Ross, damn good debut - whatever he says about being a noob don't listen, this is a man with F1 experience - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVjlshgT8yM

Got to take the blame for the lack of briefing - was too busy trying to keep mine pointing in the right direction to mention the minor detail of being able to look backwards during races!

Finally managed a decent lap in qually ending up only about 4'100s away from MJ. Had a steafy first half to the race with MJ gone i was left to shadow Prof until Carl recovered from his off and got by. But unfortuneatly I got caught behind someone a lap down who I felt didnt seem to want to let me by and ended up dropping down to around 14th. If it wasn't for the Legzy/ Evert/ Blunder debacle I wouldnt have managed to get back up into the top 10. I owe you lot a pint ;)

I would like to also echo TT's comments/ advice about letting the faster guys through at times. There are plenty of places where you can just move over and lift off slightly or brake early but please try and communicate this by flashing your lights early. I'm sorry about hitting you through that chicane Smokey but it would have been nice if it could have been avoided. I'll admit i'm not used to lapping people so possible could have done things differently but Its not easy in cars with the similiar performance to get by.  

Legzy and I are in Swindon! When you comin over !?  ;D

Started early on Dave Gymer's original incarnation of LFRS (a looong time ago - '94/'95 perhaps?), but mainly raced with GP Legends on VROC a while back.  Apart from that I've recently been racing GTL on the Altbierbude servers.  Don't get a huge amount of time to do it to be honest, but as I no longer do trackdays in my Atom, I figured I can justify some extra time on sim racing so built a new rig for it over Christmas.

Cheers, Ross.

Lol, amazing how many muppets leave comments saying that it's obvious it's been sped up!  Ah the good old days before I had a kid...

No worries Prof,
I am still getting use to the cars, Sorry if I got in the way!! that goes to any one else If I got in their way too.
It nice to be part of a driving game where people ar'nt going out wrecking. Seem to be making some progress with my driving now so hopfully won't be a back marker for long. This was the first actual race that I finished so thats a start if nothing else.

Regards Jon
 

(Apologies to JohnB1970 for the tap when trying to lap you. I mis-read your intentions and tried to pass you off the racing line just as you moved over to make space. I am not used to lapping people but have much more experience being lapped. Sorry if I spoiled your race.)

Had a quick look back at the replay last night and I definitely owe an apology to Gazza49er, Busi, Simon Gymer and Truetom for holding you up while lapping me longer than I should have done.  Sorry!  I'll do better next time.

Cheers, Ross.

You know, I'd completely forgotten I was involved in the running of LFRS (http://www.lfrs.net/). I wonder what 'Uncle' Steve Wilson is up to these days?

When we gonna have some "www.Simracing.org.uk" T-Shirts then Dave? Get um printed, add a couple of quid for each to raise money for the server  ;D

To be honest, I think I only raced in a couple of races (I think it was with Crammond's original Grand Prix on the PC), but I was doing a PhD at the time and really just learning about the Internet.  I set up a little HTTP server and email list in the office and hosted the 'skins' for the various teams that were running, but as my connection was DHCP, I had to keep republishing the host IP!  Eventually I think Manchester Poly's IT team picked on the traffic and shut me down.  Shortly after that I went to work at a new start up called Zen Internet and am still a Director there now.  God I feel old....

Anyhow, it's great to see that you're still so involved in the sim racing scene after all these years!

Cheers, Ross.

That Atom looks great fun Ross !  8)  How does it compare to that latest KTM Crossbow? Saw it at the MCN bike show recently...very nice.

To the newer guys, i wouldnt get too paranoid about holding up the quicker drivers, we all started the same way. A quick flash of the headlights helps big time to let us know youve seen us and we can pass without fear of a collision in the brake zone etc. Likewise the front runners may flash you once to let you know they are coming up to lap you. We're all clean racing gents around here for the most part  :euro:...but we still like to win !  :devil:  :)

Any ideas as to what happened at the beginning of the race Dave? Watched the replay which starts with you but didnt last long!

The Atom is a fantastic car - and they hardly depreciate!  Fantastic fun on track and road.  I had my name down for a X-bow as well, but it's price went stupid once they actually got it built.  From what I gather the X-Bow is a great piece of kit and probably very quick.  I suspect it will hold much more cornerspeed than an Atom ever will but I doubt it will be as much fun doing it.  The big problem with the X-Bow is simply it's price - you're looking at over £80k for a road-spec one whereas a top-spec Atom will be about £45k.  Also if you prang the X-Bow you could be looking at a very very expensive bill for a replacement carbon fibre tub.

Cheers, Ross.

Interweb demons got me. >:( >:( >:( Tried to go to the grid but kept being put in one of the chicanes on my roof, so I had to quit. Especially annoying as I was looking forward to a proper race after getting repeatedly run into in the iRacing Skip Barber race earlier that day. :no:

I'd defo buy one with a poper motiv on it - i.e. "Legends Racing - the best UKGTR team ever"  :angel:  But not in pink...  ;)

TT

wouldn't you get done for false advertising  :D ;)