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UKGPL Season 16 - Historic Division - Race 10 - 66 mod - Monza


Race date = 17-02-2009
Server IP Address 80.5.200.198
Time = 21:00
Track = Monza
Variant = 66F1,  3L engines
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = long

Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake
BRM P83
Lotus 43 BRM


Group II
Honda RA273
Cooper T81
Brabham BT19
Ferrari 312


Drivers restricted to Group I: Hristo Itchov, Tim Muttram, Paul Skingley  and Syd Drake.




Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=192&theme=6)

Well that was a complete and utter waste of time.

First time the server threw everybody out.

Second time it was more selective.

Humph!

Wondered where you went  ???
Was all confused being the new pole sitter  ;D

Despite no collisions I know of we still only managed 3 finishers!  :eek:

After the mayhem on the run down to T1, I quit and went home....did not know there would be a restart!!

No that didn't go well.

1st attempt ended up in a pile of cars about 300 mts from the start.  Surprised to find everyone in the chat room! Apparently the server had kicked off!

2nd attempt think only 5 got as far as the grid, went away slowly as I didn't want to interfere with any of the regulars, not that I had much pace to anyway.  Only to find a Honda across the track a few laps in.  I went to the right but wrong choice, I believe it was Phil driving, he moved forward, no doubt trying to get off the racing line expecting me to go the other way and I managed to hit him broadside.  Amazingly both cars seemed to stay in one piece.  Phil got away and I followed to find the front must have been bent to hell, as I was at least 30mph down on top end and the car handling like a bag of slightly warm ice cream!

Oh well, just one of those days.

Thanks for the chance to join a couple of 66 races.  It was fun on the most part.

I was reviewing the carnage in the replay before quiting, then got dumped out with a connection error message only to be shortly joined in Igor by everyone else.
Had I quit straight away I'd have missed it aswell

I think that Geoff and I were both domped out of the server to a black screen.

He had to reboot to get out of it but my desktop came back eventually.

I would suspect my system but for the fact that Geoff had the same fault.

I think this race should be re-run. It's the last race of the season, and not everyone who showed up for the race got a second chance. Let me know what you think.

Just outta curiosity, what server was this run on?

Yes, I agree.  :)

Don't mind either way, But doubt the green boat will manage 2nd again if we do re-run! :boat:  ;D

I would like the chance to get further than T1 lap 1, ::) 
so yes please, a re-run.

No problem for me to rerun, it wasn't a great win after all  :angel:

OK just to clear up what happened with the server the first time out.  There was a quite a bit of arguing going on during the last part of qualifying which was still going on when we lined up on the grid.  Then on the run down to T1 there was an almighty pile up and when I checked in TV mode there were only 4 cars left running; 3 up front and Syd some way behind.  I don't know if the pile up was caused by a warp event or was a spill over from the qually arguments.  Either way I decided to shut down the server there and then.  That is why everyone got booted off.  In chat I blamed the server because (1) I couldn't be sure it wasn't a major warp event and (2) I wasn't sure who was doing the arguing and didn't want to cause any more problems by accusing the wrong people. 

Most people were still in chat so they knew about the re-run.  If anybody got disconnected in the second race then it was a connection problem (I had set the maximum latency to be 800mS - perhaps that wasn't such a good idea in hindsight).

This sort of fiasco doesn't happen very often in UKGPL.  I think Division 1 at Monaco last season was the last time we had a similar lap 1 catastrophe and on that occasion we re-ran the race.  I have the results of the race but I have not uploaded them because I too think the race should be re-run.  If the majority of drivers and the divisional moderator agree (Syd has already indicated he is in favour) then I suggest we re-run the race next Tuesday (Syd to decide on the date).

Obviously, from my point of view, the chance of a rerun is a no-brainer.


But I don't want to see Ken organising any slipstream training in the interim!   >:(  Just keep hitting each other like normal.  ;D

Actually I would not mind seeing a replay of "the incident" at the start as it came as a total surprise when I was launched into the tree line!!
I'm not sure if I was involved at the beginning, middle or end of the whole episode as I quit without saving a replay. I was being very careful to keep "out of trouble" down to T1 with a cautious start ( unlike me I know...won't make THAT mistake again!!), hoping to drag myself back up through the field with the awesome power of the Wazamobile and a little slipstreaming.
Just goes to show...absolutely no point in planning anything!!! ::) ::)

Obviously drivers are overwhelmingly in favor of a re-run, so next tuesday, 17.02.2009 at the same time, we will try again. New race date in the first post.

Before being booted from the server I managed to watch the replay from a couple of viewpoints - TBH I think the initial contact was an honest mistake which was then magnified by a good old fashioned lag kick to the 2 cars that hit (who-ever was the front left car moved across to the right as the track narrowed, there was someone (who was presumably) in their blindspot who they contacted with.
I had time to slam on the brakes as this unfolded in front of me but still hit one of the cars as it slid across the road, not too sure what happened behind me but I think someone may have rear ended me as I span and the original crashers claimed most of the rest of the field  :)
I remember Hristo was one of the people arguing after Qually and he was way behind me at the start - either a bad launch , lack of power, or keeping back to be safe (didn't work eh  ;)) so the chat can be removed from the equation as a possible cause  :)

Just a quick note to say I'm not going to make the re-run, or any race in the near future for that matter. I just killed my main gaming PC this evening. I haven't got time to relay the whole sorry tale but it's either processor, motherboard or both. The moral of the story is don't take things to bits if you don't know what you're doing!!! I was only trying to give it a good clean out, and found the heatsink fins well clogged. I think you can probably guess the rest?!!

Sorry to hear that Ken.

The pressure washer wasn't the right approach then?

He he, yes, it might be OK in a week or so when it's dried out! :)

Next time be more careful and use the proper method ... you know water and computers don't mix.... so, use a blowlamp and wire brush! ;D ;D

Bad luck Ken, UKGPL seem to have had a run of PC accidents recently.  I hope you can get going again in time for the new season.

UKGPL.6 - IP address 80.5.200.198

Sorry Hristo,
I was in two minds whether to overtake into Lesmo 1 and had decided against it which is why I ducked in behind you. But then I must have missed my brake point. I tried to pull out again but it was too late and I clipped you.

All my mistake.


paul

Yeah I figured that, Paul. After that the engine lost power, so I dropped to 6th. Will have to wait and see what's the points situation as Tim finished ahead. Fun battle prior to the incident though.

If I've remembered the finishing positions correctly then you've finished 26 points ahead of me Hristo  :cursing:
I make it 266 Vs my 240  :thumbup1:

Well done Hristo :)

And thank you to everyone else I've raced, the 66's have been more of a learning curve for me as I hadn't used the mod prior to joining UKGPL.
It's deffinatly fair to say that I'm better in the <2.7's than the 3's, so thank you for your patience while i got to grips with those! ( :-[ ) Especially anyone I may have hit due to mistakes on my part earlier in the season :ninja:

Anyway, this race is probably the most intense race I've had online ever. I forget how many people I passed and was passed by, but I do remember being terrified all the way through the early part of the race that I was either going to rear-end someone or that I'd be caught in an accident from ahead in the field.
Luckilly for me neither materialised, and all was looking good for a scrap for 3rd to the end with Clive Loynes. Until I managed to loose my rear end braking for Parabolica behind him.  :( Big shame as it looked like our running battle was managing to bring us closer to the 2 leaders so we may have ended up with a 4 way battle for 1st had I not spun.
Nevermind....
Bernie managed to worry me for a bit until he got something wrong at Parabolica some 3 laps from the flag (phew!), I then just had to ensure I finished  ::)

A good first season - I look forward to the next.
Thank you guys!  :angel:

Bernie got smacked into last place on lap 1 then spent most of the race laps playing catchup  ::)

about 6 to go I managed to haul steve in and once I got the tow i could gain a place or two .

I caught Tim with 3 to go but outbraked myself going into Parabolliker trying too hard to get into his slipstream , then having nothing to lose on the last lap I tried a do or die attempt at the same place with the inevitable result .

Quite pleased with the finish however a pity I lost the "pack" early on , it could have been a great race .

Nice one to end the year with all the same   :D

Ah, I was worried that as you were getting so close it may have been something to do with me - Glad it wasn't  :D

It was everything to do with you  :-[


you really should have slowed down and let me past  ;D

In common with most professional F1 teams Hiki Waza Racing used the final round of the current championship to give a gentle run out and test of the prototype chassis for the coming season.

Under her ever watchful gaze, Arnold and Mabel Glutbucket ( honorary Japanese pit crew and saboteurs) hurriedly prepared the shiny new Waza  275 Mk2 for Monza. Unfortunately in order to keep hidden all of the great engineering innovations of the glorious Nippon Empire there was no time available for pre race day testing in case of industrial espionage by other teams.

As a result qualification runs were done on race fuel levels and minor technical adjustments to suspension etc were carried out with a micrometer adjustable 5kg hammer and scaffold tube by Arnold.  Mabel concentrated on the downforce settings, she achieved this by sitting alternately on the bonnet and gearbox.

It was apparent during Qualification that all other teams were afraid of the awesome power and potential of the new Wazamobile, as no-one came close to offering a tow at any point in the proceedings.
 However Wazatech ( the new abacus powered telemetry arm of the organisation led by new tekky recruit  Gigga Waza ) knew that in the race there would be ample opportunity to exploit the power of the V12 and advised Arnold on the length of arc through which his hammer should swing to get the optimum results.

Despite all the efforts of the round eyes to hamper our race, the Honda was towards the front of the grid for the start.
 A cautious use of the new rubber band  augmented launch control, allowed some impudent green machines to gain a temporary advantage down towards T1.
The usual jostling for positions through Lesmo allowed the mighty Honda to emerge on to the back straight perfectly positioned to unleash the energy of the V12.

Now with the round eyes unable to deny any slipstream effect, Waza power pulled the car onto the tail of the leading pack.
Parabolica was always a danger but negotiated with care on full tanks and the run down to Curve Grande allowed the gap to be controlled.

Many cars were unable to withstand the presence of the Waza and threw themselves into barriers and hedgerows ( or each other!!! ) in their fear.

At about half distance all but the last of the round eyes had vanished from our presence and only the honourable Fulvio showed true honour and courage in challenging in his pathetic green machine.
For many laps the Waza’s allowed Fulvio to dream of the possibility of defeating the Wazamobile, but a plan was in place.

With 3laps to go the Waza took the lead and the trap was sprung!!
At the crucial moment as the glorious Honda swept through, Mabel threw her 25kg industrial strength pocket sized moisturising lotion onto the track at Parabolica, exactly on the line that Fulvio would now take and despite his efforts momentary control was lost  and a gap opened up that would deny him any chance of a slipstream. This ploy also caused the demise of the arrogant Fezza that though it could catch the flying Waza.

She was pleased that the new chassis had proved capable of  trouncing the green and red machines and looks forward to next season when ALL victories will belong to her.

  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LOL

Yes, well, I supposed that's one way of looking at a jammy win there Evil.  :P

LMAO! Nice one, evil! Due to fear of total domination by the Wazas the administration handicapped Itchi Waza to a lesser chassis, which might be the case next season as well.  ::) Perhaps mrs. Fujikawa wouldn't mind if we paint a few Hondas green... ;)