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Season 17 - Clubman's Cup

Please check the Season 17 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=202&theme=6) regarding rules and the Clubman's Cup (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=204&theme=6) pages in particular.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 67 F1 only
Date: Every second Sunday from 1st March 2009
Time: 9:00pm London UK Time (30 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: Long
Damage Model:  Intermediate
Server: 1.UKGPL
Race List: VROC

Provisional Calendar as follows:

Date	Day	Time	Track
01/03/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Spa Francorchamps
15/03/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Albi
29/03/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Snetterton 67
19/04/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Nurburgring
03/05/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Rouen
17/05/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Lime Rock Mountain
31/05/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Jarama
14/06/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Mosport
28/06/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Silverstone
12/07/2009	Sunday	9:00pm	Monza

The provisional calendar may be changed at the discretion of the Divisional Moderator.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll. 

I think I'll have a whirl at this too this time  :)

Up to you Tim, I know you want to race at Jarama, but the Interleague squad might consider your talents wasted on an int level Clubmans race!  The first Clubmans race will start after the first of the Interleague races, if you want to race both...

Count me in for this one. Hopefully we can stop Bernie gaining a hat-trick of Clubmans titles this season  :).

Being the Alonso that he is, he couldn't anyway.  :-\

Actually I've never even D/L'ed Jarama  ;D Lime Rock Mountain and the Nuerburgring are calling though - I'm just not sure if I'm good enough for D1 level races in the 67's yet?  :-\ :angel:

Someone needs to stop Bernie!, and thats going to be me... muhhahaha
After 2 seasons in row where I had a chance of winning my teammate pulls it out of the bag:/
So whos back better than ever before!
Although the tracklist looks pretty tough this season.

Nurby being a long one, Lime Rock Mountain caused problems 2 seasons ago with massive disconnects on the server, and what ever Jarama circult is?

Oh and the Soggies are going to run away with this one too? ;)

You surely mean the Wazas. ;)

REED, MARQUE, LEARN: THE JACK O’FERRALL STORY

  ...“Scribbling again, Jack?”  Bell could move like a convict at times, must be all the oil.  “What is that, looks like a shopping trolley, with a streetcleaning brush on the front?”  The designer of the H-16 was suddenly into aesthetics?  
   “Just wanted to get some concepts down on paper, Bell, while we’re waiting for the season to start.  Perhaps it's too radical for some.”  Not enough lead weights around the crankshaft, maybe.
   “Well make sure Loot doesn't catch you, He's already mentioned that some teams let their mechanics race, and that perhaps a few key team members exchanging roles might help.  I don't want you ruining my tools, as well as my engines.”
   “Is Loot back at Burley, then?  Is it finally the end for the critically endangered black market rhino?”  Though as Burley was rather more successful as a racing headquarters than in its previous incarnation as a shooting range, this didn't seem likely.  At least the rhino hadn't got him, or we'd be looking for a new owner.  Tom had always been too interested in the expression 'management buyout’ for comfort, and the only other money would have to come from some crazed hippie millionaire who wanted to put the P115 on a marijuana-themed pop album cover, where it belonged.
   “How am I meant to develop a championship chassis with all my best mechanics competing to drive the medical truck on Loot's safaris?  When I was a youth I spent all my spare time with engineering manuals, not learning to say ‘Excuse me miss, where is the nearest supply of Cuban cigars?’ in Swahili.”  He wandered off in the general direction of the garages. As I watched him shamble away I wondered idly how he could be so blind to the need for a flat engine to have a low centre of gravity, since it was obviously of so much use in his normal means of locomotion.
             At least I had the rest of a rare bright February day to myself- but no.   Apparently plotting the public relations segment of the rise to fame of Reed's new talent wasn't enough to engage all of Tom's superior intellect, and parts of it were to be lent out to bother me with.  “Hello Tom, pleasant day.”  I had thrown my jacket over the writing pad, check.  “You’ve come to tell me that you've managed to sell advertising space on my helmet, haven't you?  Not to BSA, I trust?”
   Tom dismissed this with an air of preoccupied contempt.  “Apparently British firms have a distrust of drivers who not only fail to win any races, but can't be relied upon to wear shoes at the press conference, Jack.  There was a proposal for a Watney’s Red Barrel campaign against drink-driving laws ‘Sober drivers crash too’, but irony doesn't often impress the British consumer- as you are almost certainly already aware from your romantic life.  It was Jerry I wanted to talk to, where's he gone?”
   “He’s filling out his annual membership form for the ‘vociferous anti-lightweight cars brigade’, it's what he usually does at this time of year, when he’s not gripped by panic and consuming the team's entry forms.  Might I ask why?”  
   He looked slightly anguished, if it hadn't been Tom I’d have suspected that there was sympathy involved.  “Jack, without Jerry there wouldn't be a Reed Racing.  He took over the team management years ago when it was a laughing stock.  Loot had demanded that either the team won races or he'd spend his gold on some more rewarding hobby, like the British space effort.  We used to parade a V16 around the track every race to show off its engine noise, but it never ran.  Jerry got all the pretension out of the outfit and got a few trophies into the cabinet, then he won a championship, and built us a V8 that would have won more if it wasn't for Lotus- and Bandini.”  He paused.  I needed a pause as well, it all seemed a touch sincere.  “Of course, it took it out of him a little.”
   “I suppose it can't have helped to be a Rolls-Royce-trained car designer up against Lotus, with their penchant for fragile suspensions and being arrested by the police,” I offered.  “However, if Bell’s great achievement is supposed to be having rescued us from the international ridicule of having giant 16-cylinder engines that make too much racket then explode, then I confess to feeling slightly disappointed.”
   “Engineering isn't my forte, Jack, you know that, I'm better with people.  But it was Chapman who wanted a sixteen-cylinder three litre engine, he got Coventry to build one, then they mysteriously decided to pull out of Formula One, and he prevailed on Jerry to build them one instead.  We get stuck with it and he has a Ford V8.”  Even having to utter Chapman's name seemed to trouble him.  “You tell me Jack- is our engine heavier than it needs to be?”
   Now, if that very topic hadn't cropped up on dozens of our nights out last season, can't for the moment remember why, Tom had always been more interested by the popsies.  It must have been one of those rare opportunities, when a soul normally closed to yours betrays an opening to light and reason.  “I’m sure Bell knows his stuff, Tom.”
   “Yeah, yeah you're probably right.”  And off he went too, leaving me with my sketches and the February sunshine.

Will try to make a whole season this time, though I see that some of the races are more maybe than definitely:
* April 5. - I may be on vacation for the easter holidays by then, but probably not
* May 17. - Norwegian national day (http://www.startsida.no/img/skin/default/img/norge_form.gif) - the celebrations will be over by the time of the race, but my dear one may want to spend the night with me and summarise the actions of the day
* July 12. - I may be on summer vacation by then

This cuts the appearance down to 70%, but I doubt that I will be away on all those dates, so I ticked 75% or more attendance. We'll see how it goes. :)

I'd like to join in again but have obviously completely failed to register my interest until now - the evening of race one. I'll turn up in the chatroom tonight and ask permission to race there, too.

In my defence, rubbish as I am, I'm a regular attender and faster than I was when I joined last season.

No problem James, registration has been shorter than usual this offseason, good to have you back.

Any other interested racers might note that registration will also be open during the season, the only possible problem being the divisions where the grids are already full, at least notionally- but we'd have to have 25-30 drivers in a division before I'd expect it to be a significant concern. 

Where has Bernie gone?

?
He's still there?  :-\

I spotted him now.

When I looked at the registrations I couldn't see him to start with.  ::)

I'd like to enter the Clubmans cup if there are still spaces and will be happy to drive anything. :)

Nice to see another driver James.  I'm sure one of our illustrious leaders will be along very soon to put everything in place.  See you on track.

Welcome James.  The Clubman's has a free choice of chassis every race, provided you're not in the leading places in the championship, when the faster cars attract a handicap.  The details are in the race announcement.

I can make 4 of the next 8 races what with vacations and trips to the hospital and all.

BookieW


I'll be missing at Nurburgring...drats

I'm away for the w/e and hope to be back late Sunday in time for the CC race at Nurby

It would have been a great help to know what the pit stop penalties would be for each of the chassis.  Thus I could have made my choice and got a few laps practise prior to  raceday.

I know you guys are busy modding and other stuff and we are only clubmen and dont really count but please can we get the race posted up earlier than the night before   :(

Thanks


 

I think the reason it hasn't been posted is that Phil has been on holiday and he's also having problems with internet access re a change of broadband providers.
Groups will be based on the championship table, the pit stop calculator can be found here; https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/roles (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/roles)
Normal service should resume shortly - definitely not a case of ignoring the clubmen

UPDATE : I've now posted it

Please sign me off this competition! I hardly have time to practice for Novices' races, so practicing for Clubman's as well is out of the question for me.

I might try and fit in a few of these to keep the numbers up at least.....Can't keep ignoring these brutes for ever I suppose.  ;D

About flippin time too!  ;D

 :eek:   :lol:

Amen, I've been trying to get him to do Clubmans since S17, as I can't do it, and ClarkHill needs a driver there, so it'd be one in each series! :D

Not a lot of use if you dont have XL  :D

Hope the Rouen Round is posted in time  :)

 

Decided to dip my toes into Clubmans so will be joining you guys at Rouen. L-Plates have been fitted so if you find yourself behind a slow moving Lotus it will probably be me  ;)

I've registered a vote and posted my intentions....but I'm not seeing the password or included in the driver list yet. Can somebody see to that at their leisure please?

Done.

I put you in as a reserve if that's OK.

Cheers Mike, fine by me.
Geoff.

I've added my vote as a reserve, not sure how many races I'll be able to get too, but will try my best to attend a few.

Registered. Have fun.

I'd like to give this a go too if you've room for another reserve.

You're in Al, welcome to the Clubmans.  Have you had much experience in the 67s?

Sign me up as a reserve for Silverstone & Monza! :)

This is Andrew Hodgson by the way, I used to race about 5 years ago or so in Div 3 then Div 2.

My times are currently terrible, so I look forward to being lapped ;)

Welcome back Andrew. We are looking forward to lapping you.

Thanks Phil. Plenty of practice laps in the 67s though never any online races. So I also look forward to being lapped (assuming I stay on track long enough  :)).

Done.

I'll set up a practice server on VROC before the next round on Sunday (probably Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights - any preference?) so you can get some on-line praccy in and test your connection.  The last rounds are original papy tracks so you won't have to learn an add-on track.

Done one race in the 65 Novs & 1 fun race in the 69s & no probs with the connection so far.   

Extra practice always good - Thu, Fri & Sat all fine for me. 

OK that will be via IGOR for the 65s and 69s.  Make sure you have VROC set up, we normally use VROC for the 67s.  Thu, Fri & Sat it is :)

Very late entry I know ...

After blundering around for the 1st season in novice '65 class I thought I'd try my hand with the '67 beasties. Reason for the extra late registration is I've spend far too long trying to sett up VROC & then recovering Pribula.
Assuming everything works I'll join the thread for Mosport tomorrow & see if I get a dispenation to drive - on the basis its better to fill the grid & gives the regulars overtaking practice.
Will be strictly back of the grid but should manage to stay on track most of the time.
Will be running the Cooper.
Billy.

Good stuff Bill.....getting adventurous in ya old (?) age?............:)

Nice one Bill - will give me some competition for the back spot  ;)

Sorry about my no show tonight. Have decided VROC is a pile of shite. First it removed my Pribluda - spent hours trying to recover it. More importantly I can't join races due to a bandwidth mismatch. Have followed the topic on UKGPL ( Steve B1rD 26 Feb 09) with no joy. Also screwed up my connections through IGOR, which were fine before I put this shite on my machine. Will probably get it sorted at some stage. Why if GPL so bloody complicated?

Worth the effort though  ;)
I'd say it's core.ini problems though not sure why it would affect Prib... Will have a look at your settings Bill.

I assume you changed the ip address for VROC with the patch?

VROC was around long before IGOR and the 65, 66 and 69 mods so it expects everything to be just like the original GPL game which isn't the case if you've installed the mods.  When you installed Pribluda it should have modified the original GPL.exe.  That is the one used by VROC.  GEM+2 modifies the original exe to create GPLc65.exe, GPLc66.exe, GPLc67.exe and GPLc69.exe.  One for each of the mods and one for the original 67 carset.  When GEM+2 creates these new executables it uses the original GPL.exe so if this was patched with Pribluda, all your new executables will also be patched with Pribluda.  I'm not sure what exactly went wrong but if you patch the original exe with pribluda and then run GEM+2 in VROC mode everything should work.

If you are experiencing BW mismatch, you should be able to correct this by editing your core.ini file.  If you have the following settings you shouldn't have any problems:

net_mdm_client_send_every = 3              ; Client packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84              ; Client packet size on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3              ; Server packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_size = 384              ; Server packet size on dialup
net_server_port = 0                        ; Server port number (0 = default)
net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip = 1       ; Use modem bandwidthfor TCP/IP

When you join in VROC:

Go to server tab
In drop down menu under GPL Bandwidth Settings
Select "Use Core.ini Settings"

I can set a server off on VROC and IGOR anytime you want to test your connection (well almost) what about tomorrow after 9:00pm?

Minor apology for my rant yesterday. Thanks for the guidance Phil.

I managed to track down the guidance on core-ini settings. They were fine & not the problem.

Big thanks to John Roberts. Problem was the bandwidth patch which needed to be reset. So simple when you know how!

All seems to be up & running now.