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Season 17 - Novices Trophy

Please check the Season 17 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=202&theme=6) regarding rules and the Novices Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=206&theme=6) pages in particular.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 65 F1 only
Date: Every second Tuesday from 3rd March 2009
Time: 9:00pm London UK Time (30 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: Long
Damage Model:  Intermediate
Server: 5.UKGPL
Race List: IGOR

Provisional Calendar as follows:

Date	Day	Time	Track
03/03/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Spa Francorchamps
17/03/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Albi
31/03/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Kyalami
14/04/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Imola
28/04/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Mexico
12/05/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Watkins Glen
26/05/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Rouen
09/06/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Mosport
23/06/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Silverstone
07/07/2009	Tuesday	9:00pm	Monza

The provisional calendar may be changed at the discretion of the Divisional Moderator.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll. 

When you enter please post your preferred two chassis to assist the moderator in allocating chassis.

I'm in, Clark-Hill Lotus please

Go on then. I'll risk it for a biscuit. :)

I'm in,

I'll update this post as to what chassis, but my first option is the Lotus

 Cu all on track then.

Im in, I give this ago.

As a member of Clark-Hill Racing it goes without saying. ;)

I'm in. Lotus again please.

EDIT: Oops, sorry - should be Amateurs

OK, I will be there...
With a Ferrari of course
:taz:

I think you're probably a bit quick for this division Burt.  You're probably better suited to the Amateurs race (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5866.0).  However it will be up to the Divisional mods (Jack and Mike) to sort out the 65s into 2 well matched groups.

There's some overlap between the two divisions.  You can race with the slower drivers if you'd prefer Burt, though you'd be in one of the slowest chassis, or you could have one of the fastest chassis in the senior division.  However, if you want to remain with the Novices you should try the BT7 out!

well i as referring to my results of season 16, only had 1 podium but didnt race much then working late, and as you say i feel im in between, im happy to take a slower car, at least racing would be close, more exciting then likes of Hristo etc.

I maybe pretty good in 67s as we all know looking at clubmans each season, but 65s,66s, and 69s i hardly race much of them and really need to spend more time on this than 67s i feel. Im sure Clive Loynes can shed some light when we have Breasts race most thursdays in 66s.

Hey, I thought I'm exciting! On the track anyway...  :D
I think with car handicaps you can have equal chances in both divisions really. Especially on those with longer straights (which you'd love if you come in Amateurs and probably hate if you stay in Novices, given that you're put in something like the BT7  ;D ).

I was going to add an ironic post about being put in an F2 car but then actually remembered 67 Advanced Trainer is quite near to 65 pace ? Anyone ever tested this? Anyway, nice to see the novice division flourishing  ;)

I will be there again

hopefully improving a bit more

cheers

Peter

Yeah I've done some F2 leagues in the past. 65s have more grip in the corners but lose on acceleration, so overall it's quite similar pace.

Hi i would like to join with car Ferrari. will search for info getting Igor to work.

" When you enter please post your preferred two chassis to assist the moderator in allocating chassis "
sorry didn´t noticed.
1. choice  is Ferrari ::)
and 2. choice is  :-\... ahhhhh let me see : Ferrari i think ! ;D
Cu

Car choice? hmmmm now let me think..... ::) oooh! how about a shiny Honda witha pretty red stripe?? and as backup???? another Honda ( but maybe disguised as a Cooper?)

evil, you can't enter Novices!!!

Hi

I've clicked in the poll at the top (at least 75%), but my internet froze when i did it. When i logged back in the voting buttons had disappeared so i assume i have registered. (please let me know if not - Thanks)

Car choice:
First choice would be the Brabham BT11 (Please!!)
Second choice would be a Ferrari

Also how do i go about starting a team? Myself and NHance (who should also have registered for the 65 novices) were thinking of starting a team of 2 for a bit of fun (as we're quite new to all this online racing stuff). NHance will no doubt think of a name. Is this possible?

Many Thanks to all at UKGPL and looking forward to my first full season online.

Clutch

I've registered in the poll. Preferred car is Brabham BT 11. Second choice is Lotus . Clutch & I would like to register a 2 driver team. The team name to be named Mountside Racing. Please let us know if we have to do anything extra to complete team registration. Clutch will have mentioned this in his post but I have chosen the team name. Looking foreward to the season.

Count me in for Season 17.
After my debut on the last race of Season 16 with just 4 laps of fuel I'm going to up the anti & use a full tank.
Preferred chassis is the BRM. If anyone else is running BRM in the Novices and doesn't mind sharing setups / tips etc. please let me know. Bill

Your vote has registered Clutch, you're in

Yes team management is self service here on SRou.  Click on LM2 (one of the little blue buttons at the top of the page), this should bring up a new page and you should be able to click on a link called "Team Management".  This is where you can create your own team and invite other people to join ;).

OK, I will try NOVICE instead of amateur, amateur laptimes are to fast for me! I would like to try the BrabhamBT11, OK?.............Hez. :)

oops forgtot chassis info

BT11 and ferrari

cheers

Peter

Helo, my name is James and I am new to racing online. I have played GPL for about 5 years and would like to give online play a go. I would like to race in the Eagle please.

Welcome to UKGPL Hez, great to see some new faces turning out with our merry band of......suspects  :angel:

Geoff.

Welcome James, some more new talent swelling the UKGPL ranks. Hope that stitching we repaired it with holds...... :eek:

Geoff.

 :nono:   :nono:

Thanks Geoff55, happy to join, see you on track...........Hez. ;)

Hi James

Welcome to UKGPL!  Racing on-line is sooooo much better than racing the AI ;D.  You are probably novice material but please compare your lap times with those of the Eagle drivers in the Amateurs and Novice races in Season 16 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=193&theme=6).  Picking the division for which you have similar lap times will ensure close competitive racing which is  more enjoyable for both you and the other drivers.  Race times are a better indication of true pace but laps times are close enough.

Cheers

Phil

Listen sunbeam!!  :whistling: I gotta win somewhere, somehow for her!!! ::)

In- 1. brm
     2. honda

I'd like to sign up for this season too. 
Bookie Westbrook

I had my first ever online race on Sunday and was pleased that I only got lapped once! I think I understand how IGOR works now but I wanted to clarify three points:

1. Is the password to enter the race issued in the pre-race chat?
2. Although I am running the 65mod, do I need to upgrade to the later version 2.0?
3. I also noticed the words po in top left corner of my screen, what does this mean?

Although I plan to attend all the races, I am unfortunately going to miss the first race as I am on holiday. On a technical note, I think that I have an 18mbps connection (although I am not sure). Is it worth trying the 60fps or might this slow down the online game.

Thanks to Amagi for setting me up yesterday  :)

It's a start, well done.


No, generally it will be in the race announcement thread on the forums but last night was a fun race.


You don't have to but others will have the benefit of slipstreaming where you won't, and the smaller collision boxes mean that you have more room around you for close quarter racing which really helps when racing online. It looks to be pretty stable for everybody so far so back up your Sierra folder then do the install if you like.


That is people sending the message PO (Pit Out) so if you're passing the pitlane somebody may be making their way onto track, just beware. Sometimes you will see the message PORF (Pit Out with Race Fuel) or you may see the message Thanks for running straight into me you Twunt! You can probably work it out.

To send messages press Enter, type your message and press enter again.

This is generally only done in practise. Race chat is kept to a minimum and should really be avoided as it is distracting.


People are still finding this out so it may be best to try it in practise rather than races where I don't think it will be in general use as some people run PCs that can't handle it.

James, give this a read: https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro), in particular the sporting and racing etiquette sections.

thanks for the info...  :)

I'm in for Novices.

1. Ferrari
2. Whatever. Coop, perhaps?

This new applicant would like to drive the

1.  BT7

or

2. Cooper

G'day Aulden!.......Welcome to UKGPL,  I notice another ADC reprobate....one Donnie Yourth has signed on here too. Welcome gents.....
Geoff.

Welcome to UKGPL Jim.......:)
Geoff.

Sorry, forgot: Brabham BT11 or BRM P261 :P

Miner2049er got me into this world. I will make every race I can but I have an odd work schedule and some are not possible.

Lotus if possible please!

One thing to note. The 60fps (release due soon) and existing 36fps do NOT mix (jumpy cars/warps etc). At present there is no failsafe in IGOR.
Reccommend keeping 60fps switched off unless you specifically need it...

Previously I had asked to drive in the Eagle, not realising it was not an option in the 65mod. Therefore, I would like to change my choice to Lotus, however, I'd be happy to drive any of the cars.

You have been assigned the Ferrari.

Check the race thread here.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5898.msg101880#msg101880

I'd put you in the Ferrari because you seemed happy with it at Zeltweg James, but you (or any other driver) can change before the first race, if you like- just pm me first for approval. 

The Lotus 33 can be tricky if you're not used to it though, and also we've got four already.  Another Honda would be good, since there's only Bookie driving the Honda, I can easily add another if anyone wants one.  The RA272 is one of my favourites- and it also won the senior championship last season.

Ferrari or Honda, I'm OK with either.
 :)
 I have been practicing around some of the tracks that are on the calendar which I have not raced on before and was wondering about car setups. In particular, the Albi racetrack is a concern, where I can just about force a 1min 15.8 laptime. I have noticed that the computer cars have been doing 1min 12's. I have never tried using other peoples car setups before (seems like cheating) and I was wondering if anyone knows a good website for downloading them... :)

A 1:15.8 will get you towards the front of the grid at Albi I would have thought.

Best drop down to the Honda me thinks.

If you want to download setups here are a couple of links that people use.

http://gpltd.bcsims.com/

http://gpladdicts.speedgeezers.net/

Here are mine which are mainly the Honda ones I used last season so Albi won't be there.

http://www.jamesonline.net/gpl/setups_65.htm

Thanks miner2049er
 ;D

Hi, New guy here , nam is Glyn Lloyd  (  aka  ol`SLOWpoke)  would like to join in the Novice races with you.

Favourite steed is the BT11 or the Honda but if the Mods decide on something else that`s fine too :)

Glyn
(ol SLOWpoke)

Welcome to UKGPL Glyn, good to see you're getting right back into the swing of things again.....Another quality ADC product......:)

Cya about the place,
Geoff Heard.

Will I need the 60 fps patch to run?  If so, where is it available?

BookieW

No the 60fps patch will not be used. At present only higher spec machines can use it without framerate drops...

GPL 60 fps patch, version 1 released by Petteri Pajunen and Nigel Pattinson

http://gplmz.bcsims.com/index.php?showtopi...amp;#entry27115

The long awaited 60fps patch has been released
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a single .xml file that modifies the GEM program.

It gives a checkbox in each GEM mod installed.  Check to use 60 fps, Uncheck to use 36 fps.

My current understanding is that UKGPL will not use the patch, so run unchecked GEM or remove the .xml

I ran a quick IOM Abridged and was normally in 48-51fps readings.  Lowest was 37fps at the start finish. The sudden fps drops mentioned in the UKGPL 60fps testing thread doesn't 'yet' show up on my older, lower power machine.

Personally, I like the smoother drive and the fact that I can run consistantly higher than 36fps when I want a drive.

Hi Geoff, many thanks for the warm welcome mon ami  :)
Yes, I`m now getting back into racing again after the operation....hope I never need another one  lol.
Good to see a couple of familiar faces here too, Yourself, Aulden  and Bookie  and maybe even Donnie sometime ....makes me not feel so much like a stranger :)....although I might get called 'an interloper' on occasions   hahahahaha.

The Mods have me in a BT7.....holy mackeral, is that ever different to my `normal` rides !!!   best I`ve managed at Spa so far is a very lowly 3:46.70    gonna have to do some digitry extraction if I wish to be competetive here  ;)...still  when ya get to my age one is allowed to be slow.....right ?   :P

See you on the grid somewhere mon ami  take care.

Some minor question, when joining the novice race tuesday on Spa, I need a password ??, when do we and where find this?? Sorry seems stupid, but I'am new at this,........Hez. ???

Yes you need a password. Anyone registered will find it appears at the top of the race thread https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5898#event1688 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5898#event1688) a few hours before the start

Hi guys,

I've been out for a while...we have moved apartments and I have only just managed to get my pc out of a box and setup last night...still no internet connection but I hope to join you all soon!  They have said that it may take up to 4 weeks to get connected so hopefully only a couple of more weeks to wait!!!

Looking forward to be back racing!!!!

Cheers!
Jon

Internet due to be turned on the 31st of March...so I hope to see you all at Imola :jumpjoy:

WB Jon, wondered what happened to you?? Be good to see ya back.
Geoff.

Hi Jon,

Welcome back

Good to see you back Jon.

Look forward to seeing you on the track.

 :)
like to take part at Novices season 17 , drivin Cooper .

I dropped you to the status of reserve in amateurs nicky rather than removing you but you need to vote I think so I can put you in Novices.

OMG thats just a joke Nicky is way too fast for the Novices, He is a Amateur!

He finished in 4th place last season! what the hell?

Point taken, but Nicky doesn't want to race at Pro rules for half distances so his only option is to drop a division but take the slowest car.

However, if he begins to run away with the Novices championship another decision will have to be made.

Also, Nicky had made his decision based upon the fact that he wants to be able to SHIFT-R, but if he does he has to take a SnG, and with many quick novices this season he may find his decision to be the wrong one after all.

 :)

No reason to be woried Burtoner.

if it turns out that I am to fast in a Cooper , of course I will stop.
its not my intention to spoils someones fun or stand in the way.

its an misty situation to me , cause I simply do not feel comfortable to race 50% GP races after a long working day off mine. ( would be after midnight at my time here , a pro race ended ).


regards
 :)

I am looking forward to my first novice race, but just had a couple of quick questions:

1. if you get a black flag (and it is your mistake) how long do you have to stop in the pits for.
2. Albi often unfairly gives drivers a black flag  >:( due to mistaking the hairpin for cutting the corner, especially under heavy braking, but having read the rules, I understand that I should continue in this case.
3. I have never completed a pitstop in GPL, will we be required to do this? If so is there any indication that your car is being re-fuelled?

Just do exactly what GPL mandates.  See rule at bottom of this page (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting).

We always (unless someone forgets which is very rare) have checkpoints disabled when racing on-line so this shouldn't happen.  This is done because internet lag can sometimes cause drivers to be black flagged erroneously by GPL.

No pit stops in the Novices.  The pit stops are only used to level car performance in some of our other divisions.  Please note the car is not refuelled by a pit stop.  Only a shift R adds more fuel.  Remember if you do a shift R you must perform a stop and go in the pits as recompense.

I had black flag at Albi in practise race did not pit and was disqualified, did not understand what i had done wrong.
So i can if happens in novice race ignore black flag.

It seems the black flags at Albi are a little over-exuberant. I'm not sure about the workings of GPL on this, but I think if you ignore it, you can carry on racing. I have no idea if GPL forcibly removes you from the race, but if it doesn't, carry on and hopefully the replay will back things up and you'll be counted in scoring. Just remember where you finished. ;)

Thanks Turkey Machine

I got the same at Albi - did a pit stop and it said 'cut corner' which I hadn't? Didn't realise I should disable the checkpoint on the server - now done this so hopefully won't happen again.
You won't show up on Pribluda if you race while DQ'd but you won't get forcibly removed as far as I'm aware. Also (I might be wrong) GPL stops showing which lap you are on.

The official rules regarding black flags is at the bottom of this page (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting).  Assuming the disable checkpoints has been checked, the only things you can do which would give you a black flag is to jump the start or drive the wrong way down the track.  As a general rule we abide by GPL, see a previous ruling on driving the wrong way here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5415#event1546).

You should only ignore a black flag if you genuinely think GPL is wrong.  In which case you will have to argue your case with the moderators after the event.  If the moderators have the replay it is quite easy to review the replay reinstate the disqualified driver if appropriate.

does anyone know when the practice sessions start?

The races start at 9pm. We don't have 'official' pre-race practice sessions as such but you will often find UKGPL.5 & 6 running in IGOR for practice.

Hi everyone, just stumbled across Geoff's invite posted at the GPLRacer.eu forum and... here I am, hoping to get more GPL miles under my belt.

My name is Mario Bauer, I've only managed to successfully get GPL running decently earlier this year and got, so far, 4 mod65 races to my record. And almost one race lap in the 69mod, something I'm not very proud of, right Geoff...?  ::)

So i guess I do qualify for the novice cup and my choices would be:

1) Lotus 33 (which would spare me from having to do setups twice as this is the car I race in GPLRacer)
2) Brabham BT11

If it's OK, I'd join as of the Kyalami round.

Cheers

Hello Mario!.....welcome to UKGPL. Ah, don't worry too much about that 69 race....it was rather an odd affair. And you were in the Lotus 63 yeah?. Not the best choice of weapon for someone new to the game. You did ok. Everyone has dramas at a crash site like the one Ico arranged for everyone.....:)
Hope you enjoy yourself here, we all do! Keep an eye out for the praccy servers UKGPL 5 & 6 when they're up and come and join in when you can. No passwords just hop on.
Geoff.

 :) :)
big welcome Mario !

for sure you will enjoy ukgpl
 :)

Hi,

I've been playing GPL on/off for a couple of years but never tried online, is there any spaces still available?

Thanks

Tom

Just vote above to register Tom. You might have to go in as a reserve but I'm sure we'll be able to squeeze you in. Also, what's your preferred chassis?
Welcome to UKGPL

Okay, voted. Ferrari would be my choice.

 :)
Welcome to ukgpl , Tom !

Yes indeed, welcome to UKGPL Tom. Always good to include some new members into the online 'family'. Keep an eye out for the praccy servers online and hop in when you get the chance. No password required. Cya on track,
Geoff.

Hello

Another newbie to online GPL here though I have practised for a while with the 67s. I'd love to give the 65's a go if there are any spaces.

Any of the chassis with a 5-speed gearbox would suit me - though if that's not possible I'm happy to give anything a bash (probably literally)

Cheers

Al

Welcome to the Novices, Al.  How about a Brabham BT11 then?

Thanks. BT11 would be perfect.

Welcome Al, look forward to seeing you on track

G'day Al, Welcome to UKGPL. Hope to see you kickin' about a racetrack somewhere soon.
Wait a moment....that's 2 Al's now. Can we just call you all Bruce, to avoid confusion?....... ::)

Cheers,
Geoff.

Hi there boys,

since I last posted here, showing interest in competing in UKGPL's Novices Cup, I encountered an almost ridiculous amount of private and professional obstacles and haven't been able to take the track with you guys once. Really bizarre! Geoff went to the extend, suggesting that it might all have to do with a supposed kick I could potentially have adressed at an innocent Chinaman, considering the streak.

Actually I'm not about, kicking anyone's behind. Off the track that is :D

But hey, I must have done something similar, as the latest joke destiny has been playing seems to point out: One of the 3 HDs I got on my PC began cranking up. I'll leave it up to your imagination which files are stored on drive D on my Pc...

To make a long story short. My debut within UKGPL's Novice Cup will have to wait yet again.

There MUST be a higher scheme behind this. Can someone just take the time and explain to me, please...?

Hi all,

I'm in for the last two races in the BT11 if that works.. Just last night I ran my first sub 1:40 at Silverstone so I'll do my best to stay out of everyone's way ;) I'm a total NOOB to online racing but had a blast sitting in Geoff's Lotus last night, as I was black-flagged during an attempted start from pit lane hahaha...

Mark

Welcome to UKGPL Mark, you're signed for the Novices as a reserve but there shouldn't be any problems fitting you in for the last two races. Look forward to seeing you on track

What's odd, is I got black flagged too.......and I didn't even jump the start? 
Welcome Mark. Keep an eye out for any praccy sessions happening after 8pm GMT+1, and jump on....get some practice in traffic as there are often a few bodies out there circulating.