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Practice: 20:05 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:15 (25 mins)
Race: 20:40 (21 laps = 40 mins)

Track: Hockenheim (GP).

Cars allowed: Ferrari 275Gtb/c only.
Time of Day Setting: 19:00
Start: STANDING


Server: UKGTL S7
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
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Is this a new 250 download or shouldn't I use the $1 version?
(was having problems with the 250 at the bayfront..)

Thx for reminding me Alex. For me, the issues you and others suffered mean its not worth the risk and I'll remove 250 option. It will be available as you can't differentiate between 250 and 275 on server but this is a 275 race only .

I found the 275 far more fun around here anyways  ;D

Oooo....19:00 start, hope my screen doesn't go into save mode :( track seems well lit so it shouldn't do, but if it does ill pull off track and click back to desktop, should only have to do it once in a 40 minute race (touch wood). Ill do a full race length test and see what happens.

Would turning your headlight settings to 'full' help? :-\

Don't know Legzy ??? if worst comes to worst ill have to run it on my 19" monitor, just wont be the same :P  ill try everything before the race.
 

                                           Cheers Ade


                                               

Can't you turn that "feature" off? Is it the screen itself is switching off or is the PC powering it down?

Its the screen Tibbs, Birthdays coming up soonish so i may treat myself to a new LCD, this things getting a bit of screen burn on it now anyway.

                                                  Cheers Ade

Traditionally a track where I do badly. However I've never seen this layout before, and I'm not getting
a couple of corners right yet, so there's time.
So far I can do 2:07's fairly consistant, and 2:06.6 is best

i'm definately no expert but the 319 car does seem to have more files in it's folder than the others and some seem to be doubled up albeit with UKGTL as the first part of the name.

Wasn't there a problem with the UKGTL Ferrari 250 last season? I seem to remember the drivers being told not to use it last season. ???

This car is nicely suited to this track, you can really stretch its legs although its a little understeery in the quicker corners, so a little more tweaking is probably needed to make it turn in a bit better.

Best time so far offline is a 2.04.1.

Work permitting, I'll certainly try to make the show this time.  As a part-time, on-call delivery driver, my fate is always up in the air.

Also, come March 19, I'm commited to run Mogget's S4 series over at Gamer's.  Sry.

Ran a few laps online, PB 2:05.543 Bit more tinkering should see a bit more come off.

Tried several laps tonight & got down to 2.04.5. What was really annoying was the lap I was 0.8 up on that & had a big gravelly moment into the stadium & still did 2.04.9. Other laps seem really good & are over 2.05. difficult to judge how quick a lap is here.

The cut track on the inside of T1 keeps catching me out. Did a race on Hockenheim Short last week & could take quite a bit of kerb there, seems like the cut track on the GP track is not so generous.

Yeah, this track is weird, feeling fast doesn't mean you are necessarily.  After a few quick familiarisation laps at the weekend I was down to 2:04.4, and I know I'm losing time in the Mercedes grandstand section, but it is surprising how hard it is to judge what's a good lap.

Might not make this though, waiting to hear about work commitments. :-\

Just done a few more 'tweak' laps, down to a  2.03.7

Well I hope someone else is doing 2.09's cos otherwise I'm in for a really lonely evening  :(

You aren't going to be, I'm in the 2:09-2:12 bracket - I see myself as more of a gentleman racer, cloth cap rather than helmet brigade  ;)

I suppose I could leave the whicker picnic basket in the pit's but what if I see a nice spot to park?

Same here Tony, so don't worry about being lonely!

Me too !  ;D

Done low 2.8's so far but how on earth do I get another 5 seconds off my time!

Black magic is in use!  ;D

Unfortunately have to miss the race ..

Have fun all and see you next week.

I've managed a couple of mid 2:07's now, hoping to find a bit more on the practice server after about 9pm tonight should anyone fancy a run out. :)

Out tonight but will try to join after 10'ish

I'd guess SBG will probably be joining too from about 10:30pm. He's usually a bit slow & likes to pick up a few tips  ;)

Will probably be around at some point this evening, managed a 2:08 last night but spilt my Pimms halfway round.  

Diki

Note for the admin: will probably race under the name Ghia67.

In my regular unlock-all-cars-profile the force feedback does not work  ???

I'll be there and on ts too.

Ah yeah, any of the new guys or just people that might have missed the announcement previously... during practice sessions like tonight, we usually get a good few of us on Team Speak having a bit of friendly banter, which adds to the fun :laugh:.

All you need's a mic & then go visit this link for more info: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5646.0
Somewhere down that page you'll find some instructions on how to get yourself set up.

this is me saying goodbye.
I'm moving to germany on sunday to start my new job.
there is no chance of getting a decent connection to where i'll be staying and i probably have no time for a few month anyway.
i hope it's not forever...........
thanks to all for the fun and the good racing and thanks to ginsters for organising it.
but....................to quote an austrian politican: i'll be back! (no it wasn't hitler and it might be a long while)
laters all

Best of luck to you Klose, its been a pleasure both here and elsewhere :) Shame you'll miss out on our German mini tour, which takes in the home of your fave actor, but I'm sure this place will still be here on your return.

Good luck Klose, hope to see you around again in the not too distant future. :thumbup1:

See you soon Klose, good luck mate.  ;)

I can't believe we just had 11 people (about 6 or 7 on TS) on the practice server together!  :o How awesome's that!! Great fun guys.
Also managed to get my time down to a low 2:05... but I doubt I'll ever be able repeat it  ::)

p.s. Hope to see you again soon Klose :)

Adios Klose, good luck and catch you later!

First time on TS with you last night (even for only 2 minutes)  ;D
Everybody will join an only one TS channel?
By the way, i live in a small apartment, don't want to upset family,
and don't really like my voice very much,  ::)
so i have my mic disabled, however i hear you loud and clear.  :laugh:

Good to see you come on TS last night PR, but there seemed to be a problem when you did as none of us could hear anything but your engine. So you might want to double check your mic settings again, or even better set TS so that you have to press a button to talk  ;D
When practicing we tend to all stay in one of the communal rooms for more fun. But we tend to be quieter or go in our team rooms when league racing.

The reason I didn't join you on TS last night was because it could have disturbed wifey (not smart).

Well...  It's 10 AM my local time now and if work hasn't called by this time, I doubt very much that they will.  I fill in on a part-time basis for those who are absent.  So...  I'm looking good to go for this afternoon's GTL run at Hockenheim.  Judging by the lap times I'm seeing posted by others, maybe you wouldn't mind if I took the shortcut on the National circuit while you fellas use the full GP layout.  That way, maybe I can keep you in sight for a bit.  Maybe...

 ;D

might join you lot later, not sure yet. 2:05's full race fuel for me in the few laps i stuck in, but its not floating my boat anymore, even though i used to really like the GTL F275 and Hockenheim track. Nice car to drive. :)

If i dont, have a good 'un  :)

o/
HI GUYS!!!!  :)

*Really* sorry about being out of touch for so long!! I've been doing a few other things (mainly making levels in LBP!) and haven't found the time to race, and the race room has been in a right mess but we had some bad news on Saturday in that one of our ferrets died suddenly! We just tidied the house manically after that to take our minds off it. So we tidied the PC room up to an actually usabale state so I'm well up for a bash tonigh if it's OK with you all?

Are we still using GTL or P&G now?

Again, really sorry to just vanish but I felt I needed a break too.

Don't worry - I'm gonna be well rusty tonight if its OK to join hehehe ;)

Hopefully see youy tonight!

Hi B mate, welcome back!
Tonight's race will be GTL.
Glad you are back.  :)

Hi Paulo! :D
I'm happy to be back too!! Can't believe it's March already! Where has it all gone?!?

I'm really excited now! Gonna jump online at 7:00, make sure it's all working and get some practice! Hope my internet is OK now - noise levels seem to be fine every time I check now so it looks good.
CU soon ;)

Wheel wont work when online  ??? ??? ??? (& sometimes offline)... Works perfectly when looking at "controls" under "options" under the "main menu".
Any thoughts welcome

Going to try to load up everything on 2nd PC in time for race  :sweatdrop: :'(

Welcome back Bara!!...be good to see you racing tonight mate.  ;D

can't join
sees race, enter password, and it just sits at the login, then the join
button lights up again

Flippin night race, of course I didn't read the announcement.  Missed braking points in the first couple of laps and got fed up.  Kept getting stuck behind people on fast laps in qually, bah, not in the mood.

Didn't know it was a night race either.
On the first lap, going towards the hairpin, there was suddenly a red car in the middle of the track. I swerved to avoid it and went on the grass on the right side of the track. I wasn't in full control at that point, and tried to slow down. Unfortunately I couldn't stop before the hairpin and t-boned someone there. Apologies for that. Of course in the sea of blue ferraris I didn't know who was my victim, so I slowed down until everyone passed me before continuing, On lap 4, I think, I was dq-ed. Not sure what that was about as I didn't see any warnings.
I think my connection was ok tonight.

Spent an hour & a half getting my 2nd PC loaded with the game, the patch, the skins, transferring my PLR file, installing & configuring my wheel, loading & configuring teamspeak, testing everything offline.... & took the last free spot on the server with 8 mins to go of qually!!!  ;D

Started 18th, was disappointed with time but chuffed under the circumstances.

Pulled off & instantly made about 5 positions up. Then on at the hairpin my teammate warned me I was warping & as I attempted to pull off track I had contact with someone. Sorry who ever it was, I'm sure it was my fault if my car was warping.  ::)
I've never suffered a warping car before & people started dissapearing/reappearing. Thought I'd follow the back marker from a safe distance as I'd made such an effort to be here & in case the problem sorted itself.

Got round a lap & a half before I suffered my 1st ever "connection lost".

What an evening! Gutted.  :taz:

Enjoy the race guys  :'(

Apologies Syd, it was probably my red car that appeared... but on a plus note, it was probably me that you T-boned not somebody else. Sorry my fault entirely  :-[

Damn cut track warnings  :2guns:

Got one early at T1 then a bit later I run wide at the final turn & get 2 in one go & an S/G  ??? Next corner (T1) get another, gave up in disgust.  :-[

At least I kept up my 100% record of DNFs this season  :'(

Usually means you're trying to join with an ip address that's already in use at the server end, e.g. after you've had a crash. Getting yourself a new address usually fixes it.

Great race , hadnt done any praccy except a bit before the race and pulled out a lucky lap in qually.
Got a good jump off the line and managed to get a 6 sec lead whilst Madd and Bara scrapped for 2nd.  Tried to keep it smooth through the traffic but the rear tires started to go and i couldnt pull he same laptimes no matter what i done , Bara soon loomed int he mirrors and he made a great pass round the out side at the hairpin  ;)  .
Tried to stay with Bara but started overdriving on the worn tires and Madd soon flew passed down the long straight.
Then 2 laps towards the end bara Disco'd and handed the race to Madd.

Very unlucky Bara and grats to my Teamie Madd on the win and SBG on third

Cheers

Sorry to hear that. Know what you mean. Got a disco at Portland. Was really annoyed...

Steady race which brought me from last in 1st corner to 15th.. and held the 275 on the road  :angel:

Glad we're back in Europe again. My american races were all cursed  :ninja:

Just braved a public server race, git everyone to check for me & seems I had no problems, having changed nothing!  ??? ??? ???

Results in and replay in normal slot.

I struggled to get any qually lap in, kept getting those bloody cut track warnings.

Sorry to Wilts Tony for rear-ending you at the hairpin on lap 1, someone had wiped out my brake marker  :( . Took me a couple of laps & near misses to twig what has happened....

After that I had some fun battles with Bill, until I had a couple of spins so I just kept plodding along, trying not to wipe out any of the lappers, although I had to jump onto the grass to avoid hitting pribeiro at the hairpin.

The cut track warnings here are beyond a joke, I feel for those getting their races ruined by S&Gs :(

Looking forward to see how the P&G version compares.

Was in for practice, left to rejoin proper event. could not join. reboot system, power cycled router
got the same (with new IP) 23/26 24/26 25/26 26/26 then started getting "Game is full"
so gave up.

After a couple of poor and unlucky performances at Bayfront Park and Portland, I was glad to have a reasonable race at Hockenheim. I never really got to grips with the 275 and it showed with my quali performance, languishing down in 16th. The start went well and I gained 4 places on the 1st lap. I then got demoted to 13th a few laps later but held onto the place, enjoying a race long battle with Phil.

The rest of the race was a matter of making sure I didn't get a stop/go from the irritating "cut corner" messages. One went on the second lap when I clipped the inside of the Nordkurve. Another popped up when I ran wide, lost time and exit speed; losing a place to Phil as well. Got rather ticked off by that. I re-passed Phil again at somepoint, when Ozzie joined the party and we breifly had a 3 car battle. On one lap Ozzie and Phil both passed me but Phil lost the back end of the Ferrari and I gained the place back.

From then on, I was gaining places here and there, presumably from the harsh stop/go penalties. So I wound up in 8th which is quite a nice result even if it doesn't look it. The Österreichring should be a blast next week!  :)

Not my strongest or favourite track/car combo that. Instead of trying to find a way to drive the Fezza I did rather force it too accept my silly ways instead, sure it would have been a tad faster if I didn't drive it like a Cobra.

That said, that was fun race. Great opening first few laps with Steve and PR. Real shame you retired Steve as the close racing was ace, keep the faith matey. After the demise of Steve it was a straight dog fight between me and PR, all ruddy race long. Not entirely happy with my pass into turn 2 PR, I was a tad loose, and I did flash to let you through on next straight but you didn't want it ??? Then Geoffers was right with you so I wasn't gonna give up two places and carried on. I could sense you sizing me up for the 6 or 7 laps after that and thought it was only a matter of time. Lucky for me you got it slightly wrong into chicane. As always, top stuff and I got lucky there :)

Gutted for Bara but happy to see him and a few old faces (sorry Oily, Purds ;)) return. Equally happy to see some new faces as well. I must be just lucky, but the etiquette in quali and race, especially those being lapped, was excellent :) Next week is gonna be exciting though ;)

Firstly, real bad luck there Mark, you had that in the bag after our damn good scrap.

I basically lucked that win, Dan shot off at the start when Mark, Steve  and I squabbled for 2nd and 3rd, so I was expecting a good close scrap.  ;)

Steve went wide in the stadium section so I squeezed past there but Mark was pretty much pegging me for times so the gap was quite static, he eventually passed Dan which I did a couple of laps later but then Mark disco'd   :'( 2 laps from the finish handing me 1st.

Tbh I would have been more than happy with 3rd as I just couldn't quite match both Mark or Dan for pace, so 1st is a nice prize to have.  :D

Also well done to Ian and Dan.  :)

Got myself a DQ ??? only got one track cut warning, then a few laps down I crossed the S/F line and got disqualified for not taking a stop and go >:( gutted. ( only shows one cut in the replay data )

Thanks pleeps, it's great to be racing again but shame it had to end with another disco... On the last lap too- and just after getting the lead to rub salt into my wounds!

Great race anyway. I forgot how much I love racing!! :D

That was weird when Matt was following me in 1st few laps coz it looked like he was manically flashing me. I thought either I had done a dodgy or I was lagging. Not sure what to do I carried on hoping that it wasn't lag (coz don't care if I batter in to u ;p) but trying to make a gap in case it was.

Had a few dodgy laps in the middle of the race allowing Matt to close right back up and he was still flashing. I thought "blimey he's really angry, I better let him through!". The paradox is when I repassed later on,  I DID actually touch ( gently) so I actually endangered us both by tying to do the right thing earlier... Well, never again!!! Hehehe j/k :)

Only noticed right near the end of the race that other cars were also flashing at the same time and in perfect sybch so it must have been a bug!

 

Massive thank you to Ade! for his awesome set up!

Had little practice, Did a 2.07.5 with my own set up in the first few laps but then 45mins trying to improve it and couldn't!
Ade offered his set up at the start of practice and I was flying in comparison! Did 2.06.6 in practice and couldn't believe it when I
got a 2.05.5 in quali.
Got a great start and had a good tussle with Ossie early on.
Unfortunately we had a little coming together, I'm guessing side by side into one apex. First I knew about it was when I saw him
having an issue in my mirrors! Not seen the replay! Sorry if it was my fault!

Lots of good battles through a very enjoyable race had to give up my place to a couple of quicker people and was half releived to see Ossie get back past me in the end!

7th ! all down to Ade! I owe ya buddy!

M.

Thoroughly enjoyable race for me apart from the cut messages, got 3 did my S&G then just as I caught and passed car in front picked up another cut and another S&G - swear I had taken the same line before.  Ran out of laps trying to catch up again.  Had a good tussle with Wiltshire Tony for a few laps, was hard work as he had lost his brake lights in an earlier incident.  Well done all, looking forward to the P&G race on Monday, am working in Spain Thursday so will have to miss next round.

Diki

Got TeamSpeak working - good job it wasn't in use last night  :taz:  poxy S&Gs

Wasn't your fault, I turned in and caught you.  Just so glad I didn't take you out.

Sorry to Lazlow for the rear end, didn't expect you to brake so early.  No excuse!

You didn't avoid me Tim (check the replay at ~1728) i lost 3 seconds for SBG there,
anyway, thanks for trying to minimize the hit.

Not my car and track preference aswell. Since the very first time (3 years ago?) drove the 275 i didn't like it. I don't like the night races also.  ;D
SGB, i kept my position behind you, because i felt that your overtaking manouver was superb!
Was agressive but you didn't put me in danger. Was a clean and fair manouver (as usual).  :)

Qualified 7th and believe me i wasn't very beliver for my performance last night.
Don't appreciate the track (i miss/we must use the old layout)  ;D not the car eitheir.
Good start and on the first laps i was in 5th battling with Steve and SBG (unlucky Steve).
One more time i gain a few thousands on slowest sections of the tracks but lose it on the fast ones.
This happens with all games, don't know if it is something about wheel/pedals settings,
or if it is because i don't have a clutch pedal.  ::) If someone have a clue, please share with me.  ;)
Anyway, SBG made my night for all 40mns. But when things were even hotter, we overtook Tim,
and Tim missed his braking point into the harpin hitting my rear left end, with 6 laps to go,
and SBG keeping his pace, all i could do was waiting for a mistake from him. Didn't happen.
So i'm glad with my final 4th place.

Unlucky Baracus, internet connection been very evil to you mate.  >:(
Congrats for your win Madd and to Dan and SBG podium.  :alien:

Cheers

I got one on the last lap and lost 2 positions.  As we both raced Minis last week, I think T1 was treated totally different with the Ferrari.  With the Mini you could use a lot of the green inside of the track even beyond the "cones" whereas last night we had track warning with both cones in place by just touching the green bit.

Am I just dreaming of better nights or am I right?

Bill

Yay, my first race without getting lapped (just)!  Wasn't mad on the track, but enjoyed it anyhow.

Had a scare on the opening lap after Legzy's ghost stopped in front of me, but I'd driven straight through it before being able to panic about it anyhow.  Was a bit off the pace myself so tried my best not to get too much in the way of faster people behind me before settling in for a bit of a lonely but consistent lapping until the end.

I was very happy just to finally have a good consistent run with no spins, no track cut warnings or pit stops.

Apologies to whoever it was that I got in the way of during qualifying, I had a brain fade I'm afraid so sorry if it caused a lost lap.

Yeh Bill, I'm pretty sure the cut track at T1 is different on the short track.

I got one while ploughing through the gravel trap on the exit of the last turn  ???

That was the one that got me, I just clipped the grass at the end of the runoff on the outside of the corner and got a cut warning, yet the second of the two corners making an s in the grandstand area gave no cut no matter how much you cut it, quite bizarre.

Hopefully the P&G version isn't the same.

Diki

Wasn't this one of the original GTL circuits? There usualy ok for things like cut warnings.

Yeah it is, but the cut track warnings at this GP layout are definitely more severe then both the short & National layouts (having run at all three recently now). I would suggest that any future GTL races involving Hock, should probably be done on the National circuit, where the cuts are more sensible.  :)

Just dont seem to be getting to grips with GTL this season.

Tried to avoid Legzy's warped car down the straight but ended up loosing it and spinning it damaging the lights on the first lap. And my lack of running with that level of light showed as i thought i'd try and overtake Tony who was also trying on someone else, without noticing a corner was coming up ::) which meant a trip across the gravel entering the stadium section meaning i ended up dead last. Then it was a slow progress up the field with a brief tussle with Purdie before he seem to loose it.

Thats your opinion, I would argue they are far too lax and would rather not use it :) T1 for example is ridiculous in Nat version and I'm pretty sure you can run massively wide before final turn to get a good exit. I'd rather go for restrictive rather than too lax.

I believe the GTR2 version is looser with the s & g's, especially T1, so it will be interesting to hear feedback then. I'll be the first to moan if I see any naughtiness :laugh: 

Your probably right Ian, I just find that GP T1 particularly hard to navigate at what seems like a reasonable speed without "kissing" the inside curb (which I can't see a problem with). Happy with the strictness on the exit (outside), would just like to be able to touch that inside kerb. :)

The only reasonable solutions I can come up with are to just take it a lot slower (& potentially shock people with my braking) or make my cars rear-end setup much looser & learn to drive like you do (Cobra style :alien:)

I'm with you on this - I prefer not to go over kerbs but when everyone else is (on the National track) and going away from you - join them or fade away.

My problem last night, was trying to avoid a cut warning by running too wide on the exit against getting one for cutting apex.  If you go too fast at T1 it's difficult to avoid one or the other.

Bill

Just looked at the replay, yes I did just clip you.

Sorry about that, I thought I had just squeezed past, but obviously not. Must try harder next time.

I agree with Ian, I was quite happy with the cut tracks at T1 & the final turn, it was my own fault for getting it wrong. The only one that really annoyed me was the one I got when ploughing through the gravel trap! ???