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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GTC from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, seeded from real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: UKGTR Castle Combe v2.0.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_ccombe)
Race Start Time: 20:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=197;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Way to go, my home circuit :)

Mind you I see race time is after the circuit's curfew, we had better run some extra silencers to stop those nimbies complaining  >:(

What sort of lap times are people getting?
My best is a 1:03.5  :-\

Managed a 1:02.1 in the Z4

a 1.02.3xx with around 40L in but I dont think I can keep it up for more then a couple of laps.. Ohh the car was the Beemer  ;)

 / Jorgen W

Where we racing? Castle what? ;D

will download the track tomorrow and see how it is

 :wacko: Ooh, I feel dizzy...  :wacko:
Hotlapping is really boring here, I hope to have someone to play with me.
1:02:4 in the Fezza.

Should be a few of us on here at about 10pm when the server comes back up  :)

Unusual choice for an enduro, short lap, narrow and a very tight pitlane. Great fun though around here 8) Its a pity i cant find the setup from when I played on here over Xmas briefly but after a few laps i was in the low 1.03's. Chicanes are tempting you to straightline then!

Finally got some practise in around here last night. Its a great little clubmens track and would make a superb GTC sprint venue, but to me it just doesnt suit an endurance race. Its clubman feel lacks the big track grandeur of an enduro. Overtaking and lapping will be a big problem without some banzai late braking at a few places around the lap. Should make for some very close racing, and will probably feel like an 80minute sprint race !  :P  I think there could be quite a few excursions onto the grass when the concentration starts to wane  ;)

1:03.0 in the 997 cup so far.

I agree with MJ and Spanner and predict a lot of work for a moderator.  :-\

TT

To finish off last night, the remaining four of us had a couple of 5min races.
It was good fun & we might not have been driving to the same gentlemanly standards that we would in a league race, but racing was very close (we all did 1:02's in Z4's/F430's/Morgan's) & a incident moderator could have been kept busy from last night alone  :whistling:

Weren't any issues at the front Legzy !  :lol:

I was just struggling to get past your big butt ;D

Hmm, i think it might work here. Just been trying to see how far i can go through those chicanes and though they are wide as soon as you get 4 wheels over the white line you get a cut track warning. Also you havent got that much room immediatly after the chicane to turn the car left before running onto the grass.

Having huge problems with the pc so won't be able to do this race and I will have to wait and see for Tuesday in Road America :(

Anybody having problems logging into the lobby? I keep getting invalid username/password.

Oh dear, I seem to be well off the pace then. 1:05! :-\

I had that the other day, had to register again  :(

same problem, I will reregister

I had the same aswell....ended up having to re-register.

I still cant get in..

It's very slow getting into the lobby, but just got CTD'd from server now too (grrrrr!!!).

No cut track warnings, no stop n go warnings...
Just a Disqualified for ignoring them !

Will not post any more comments due to no swearing rules.

Not at all happy  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Tell me about it. That's what I got in the last TWO races in GTL.
In this one I cut the track, and immediately got a SnG. In GTL you have two warnings, right? Nothing like that in GTR? I went into the pits, and stopped in my stall. but instead of working off my SnG, I got the pitstop window. I pressed escape, thinking that would get me back into the pits, instead it was dnf.

GTR2 also has 2 warning, unless the cut is too big it will give a SnG immediatly to prevent people from having 2 get out of jail super laps cards:P

This is a terrible, terrible track. Please don't use it anymore.  >:(  Any more race here - I will ignore it. It's worse than Enna.  :ban: :cursing: :censored: :death: :dots: :2guns: :nono: :thumbdown: :nuke: tumbleweed

TT

Had a freeze just before the end of the formation lap. Screen went black and I was expecting a CTD but then everything was fine again.  ???
Sorry if I got in anyone’s way.
Ended up getting a Stop n Go after only 1 warning, but managed to fight my back up to about 8th after my stop. Was a bit lucky not to have any damage after collecting a porsche sliding back across the track. Think it was nsfast.
Had another freeze just like the first so decided to call it quits so I didn’t get in anybody’s way.
Better Safe Than Sorry, Isn’t that right TT  :laugh:

 First JPS I'm sorry for running into the back of you and running you into the grass. VERY VERY SORRY.  I hope it didn't ruin your race. It did ruin mine. Was getting cut track stop go penalty like crazy. Worst than in practice or quail. Some of them I don't know what for. Served them anyway. Then I got DQ for not serving a stop go I didn't know I had. Shame because I had a car that handled good for a change and felt good about a good finish. Well I guess that's racing. Again JPS very sorry and for any other problems I might have caused anyone.

It’s not that bad.
Would be quite good for some sprint races in the GTC cars if the Cut Warnings were changed a bit (and the Z4 slowed down  ;D).
 :2guns:

that explains why I got a sng and then one warning later on. :D

I never raced at this track before and just jumped in qually without practice. Fortunately an easy track to learn. Setup wasn't great but I was managing. a few too many mistakes and with tire wear made the race tough for me. Apologies to any drivers that I made it difficult for with my bad handling car. Great track to race on, don't know what's all the fuss about. I really enjoyed driving around here. :)

as always thanks for having me. :)

Despite, I think, 8 stop and gos, 24 crashes, 2 new helmets, 4 sets of headlights, 8 new tyres, a dash of fuel and a very cheesed off pit crew I came 15th, 7 laps down. Yey! LOL.

Finished 11th after TWO Stop Go Penalties. Once or twice for the  inevitable bit of slight chicane cutting at this circuit, but twice for avoiding an accident in the middle of the chicane!!   :o

Despite that, good fun, nice circuit.

Far from impressed...nice track..got me 1st warning quite early...which was fair enough...then quite late into race got one..which considering i wasnt even on kerb i dont think is rather impressive..then similar thing happened again a few laps later...prob would have been 3rd-4th without those..ended up 7th...

Soz to Napo as well..slowed down much more than i anticipated

that's ok m8, you beamers are too fast hehe. :D

Sorry about that Jose.

My bad clutch control changing down to 2nd and suddenly I was spinning accross the track. Glad to hear to didn't get an major damage.

Got a stop n go on the first flying lap for no apparent reason (no previous warnings), then noticed that the timer in the top right corner was counting down from 24 hours  ???

My position was showing correctly though so I thought I would carry on, but goodness knows what position the game actually had me in - when I got to the end it was showing everybody else as DNF.

Apart from that it was qutie enjoyable despite a second stop n go again without warning. Nice 2nd half of the race catching DG and then trying to keep the pace to hold him off. But then really sorry to Matt for the cod-up at the chicane where I think I took you off. Gave my place back to DG as a penalty to myself. Hope it didnt lose you any positions...

Big grats to teammate Gazza for yet another win  8)

Hi guys, I finally managed to get on server and TS lol, then I had problems when i couldnt get a rear view mirror, in that case I quit and got it working but I didnt want to mess anyone's race up and also I had UKGPL race at 9pm.

Even that was dull race in 7th place  :(

I`ve had mine do that...think mine was down to a car i`d d/l for a league...but fail in that only other cure i found was a to reinstall game :(

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090315%20U9LE/index.html)

Nasty race :(

I got a stop go and their was a car in my pit, even though I requested it early and the car in my pit was the only other car in the pit lane at the time. Doh!

Missed my pit in the confusion and drove round again. I then lost it with an over ambitious lapping attempt and had to hit 'Esc' to prevent from T-boning a car or 2. :o :( Totally my own fault so I felt hitting the Esc key was the thing to do.

Was a bit unprepared tonight and payed the consequences. ::)

I was gutted to miss out on the rest of the race. Lapping was very, very hard work.

Well done podiums. Gazza and Team Psuedo now storm into the lead of the drivers and team championships. ;D

hehe, lol, contrary to most people, i thought it was a great track and would have been a fantastic close race other than that nasty instant stop and go penalty with no warnings. I got that on lap 4 or 5 and with such a short laptime meant i was 1 lap down as soon as i took it...i was in the top 7-10 when i got that  :taz: My only consolation was that about 5 others obviously all incurred the same thing and i soon got back to at least midfield.

Fought my way upto 6th until my pitstop, then dropped to 11th. Chased the guys ahead hard and ended the race a good 6th after a fantastic climactic battle with Peter A and Legzy that lasted the last 12mins or so of the race and showed how close the racing could have been without the penalties. Awesome fight gents  :fencing: felt gutted for Pete when his TVR suddenly speared off the track at a chicane exit...unlucky mate.  :(

LOved the track. shame about the overkeen cut track which seemed to be the initial right hand turn in bit
didn't see any cut warnings, a but took a little too much on one lap, and got S&G.
Qualed ok for me, was a bit late to set off at the green (sorry Mark) was wondering why a white car
was zooming up to pass when I hadn't turned off the limiter... followed NSfast? I think, very different lines
took a few laps to know where I could run close, so was being cautious, got thumped up the bum for my
trouble. Had some fun chasing Nsfast again later, got tapped off track by Ted, no worries car behind
was 30+ secs, and car in front even further.
Naff cut track warnings, loverly track I thought.

Like MJ I got a sudden unexpected SnG when I bit off a bit too much at the Esses early on.

Had a mostly good race, though I ran off early on avoiding the back of somebody, and a good scrap with Ted near the end (we were showing up on the same lap), although Matt's other VCC got in the way a bit. :P :P :P

The Aston's Achilles heel was magnified here; I burned 160 litres in total, costing another 15 seconds or so in the pits compared to most. :o At least I had reasonable tyre wear.

Good race for me, had no cut warnings at all which accounted for the margin i guess.

Sorry if the start was a little fast as i forgot the finish line was pretty close to the last corner and should of put limiter on a bit earlier i think.

Pulled away at start which was a little suprising as i thought RR would of been closer as he's usually faster in the race than qually. Had a good gap come the pitstop so decided to change all 4 tyres and after everyone else's pitstops was 44 seconds ahead. Took it a bit easy the last 20 Min's making sure not to get any cut warnings and lapping cars cautiously. Had a few moments though when Jose's car froze infront of me (luckily he had gone a little wide at the time so was able to miss him)  :sweatdrop:  and i remember a Morgan having a big tank slapper (well held who ever it was) infront of me  :D

Grats Lazlow and Prof.

Unlucky H@l you were quite quick when we were practising. Well done Ted for hanging on.

An evening of pleasant surprises. This is my 'local' track and the Z4 worked very well for me here and I was able to produce consistent lap times for a whole stint. I qualified a surprisingly high fourth and promptly game away two places to the fast drivers on the opening laps whilst my hard front slick tyres got up to temperature. The rest of the stint went smoothly and I pitted from second, dropping back to fifth.
The second stint was equally as good and I gained a couple of places as others had problems. I too had an unexpected stop/go towards the end but it was probably well deserved considering some of the liberties I took with the chicanes in trying to keep up with the aliens.
My first podium in a single class UKGTR league race (and probably my last) was an unexpected reward given my usual finishing place and says more about the car than the driver.  ;D
Well done to Gazza for leaving us all miles behind and Lazlow for the other podium place.

lol @ the amount of stop&goes I've read, glad I didn't race as I'm a master at being given penalties ::) :laugh:

Grats Gazza. And now, change your car please! ;D

That's the way, my friend.  8)

Had one warning, said ok, need to cool down a bit. Then came stop&go, said ok, I deserved that. Then another, no warning and I don't think offence was done at all, my line was same as 3000 times before.  :(  Ok, done that. Next lap, stop&go. Hell, no, not anymore, it's all yours, you can have it!  >:(

Esc and done.  :cursing: :censored: :death: :sleep1:

TT

P.S. I pressed Esc while being 4th or 5th so that may illustrate how fed up was I.  :(

sorry you had a bad one TT. Once i got that very annoying early S&G i just gave that first chicane a very wide berth on entry for rest of the race.
JPS was very unlucky too, dont know what happened but saw him come together with the 2nd chicane armco whilst running strong 6th.  :(

The track just needs that cut warning area altered at the first right hander of the first chicane. I think that seems where most of us picked up the instant S&G ? I dont even think i was far enough over to warrant a warning yet alone an instant penalty. There should have been a stewards enquiry after the race and i may have found myself on the podium  ;)

The other thing that stood out once again is the Z4 is too damn quick for the rest of the pack. I think the top 4 or 5 qually slots were a Z4 lockout and 4 of the top 5 race finishers were Z4s !  :o Not for the first time this season either.  If that had been Porsches i am pretty sure the anti-Porsche lobby on here would be spitting their dummies out sharpish !  ::)

All the cars looked and sounded great whipping around here and loved the atmosphere enhancing of the moody light conditions with other cars headlights making beams across the track from wherever they were.  8)

Am i right in thinking there were no CTD's last night? Certainly didnt notice the usual mass disco/reconnects going on.

dam shame i cudn't make it now!!!  :-\  my 997 stayed in the garage  :laugh:

sitting at work with a hangover now! lol  ::)

No, no, MJ - it's just not a good circuit for Fezza, Porker, Vert, Viper, TVR, Exige and Aston.  :P

TT

Just to balance it out a bit I think you'll find the cut warnings are more lenient than in real world. When the chicanes were first installed the little corner markers never survived a lap until a policy was put in place that if you knock one down you will be given a S&G penalty, rumour has it from the circuit commentators you have to buy Howard Strawford the owner a new marker too  ;D You don't get 2 warnings first either  :P

There was a mass exit during Q, 4 or 5 all went together. I got a CTD right after I finished.


Was a good battle but I was out of my depth really and it showed when I ran out of talent ;) It was actually a blessing in disguise for me really as I didn't put any fuel in at the pitstop and had been in eco mode until we all got together. I only finished with 0.2l so if I had carried on pushing for those last 3 laps I'd not have made the end!

I really enjoyed the race here, I'm always going to be biased as I only live 5 miles from the place, but the always something happening keeps you focused! However I could never enjoy that in iRacing, I got hit at least 3 times and ran off circuit at least that many times on my own. I have a mental block over the SR and it ever going down, as a result I can't race or push as it will result in lost SR. Roll on more GTR2, you guys rock  ;D

Managed to squeak fifth spot despite recording the slowest "best lap" in the whole top 10 in my super fast Z4 ::) ;).

So I guess I managed that from being fairly consistent (odd for me) & from keeping my four wheels on the black stuff at the entry to chicane one  :-*. I would imagine that now people have run that track, they would approach 'that chicane' with a little more respect in any future races here  :-\. It's certainly an intense track that. You're never far from another car with it being so short, while blink & you might miss the next chicane/corner. I think I managed to mow the grass three/four times & each one was because I either followed the car in-front off or I was watching the car behind in my rear view  ::)

Had some good battles through out, early on with Shark/Picnic/JPS I think. Then as MJ said, the last 15 mins fending off Picnic at first then MJ joined the party too  :sweatdrop: all while I was gaining on RR each lap till he span out with damaged/worn car(?). Was really good stuff & I figured both Peter/Mark were quicker then me on the whole track except turn one & two where I was confident I could defend/pull away. Was starting to get quite tasty as they were spotting where I was weak & suddenly my rear-view changed to being full of MJ's Red Porka instead of Pete's Blue TVR. Haven't seen the replay, so don't really know what happened there, hope I didn't do anything wrong (apologies if I did :()?

For the last four/five laps, my "Team Mate" Lazlow, was happy in 2nd spot & told me on TS that he wasn't going to apply any pressure to MJ from behind so we could fight it out ourselves!!!  :o :wetfish:  ;) I could have done with the breather, but I was over the moon to hold Mark off on my own & cross the line with my bumper just in front.

Great race, Peter & Mark made it for me (sorry again Picnic If I was the reason you dropped back  :-\)

Well done to the guys at the front, top driving.

Ah good, pleased to hear it wasn't me getting over excited with my driving/defending. It was I that was bluffing my talent level on the track I assure you  :yes:


p.s. Another great night for Team Oldie (except poor Martin) finishing 2nd & 5th, the forth GTR2 race in a row we've seriously racked up the points  ;D

that was a cracking finale for sure Legzy  8)....you are making a habit of being my nearest combatant on track lately  ;D

I actually thought the race was going to finish one lap earlier than it did and i was sooo close to you over the line but you still had half a car length in front. It was hard work chasing both of you as being the 3rd car in the train i was totally blindsided to the chicane entries and basically relying on watching your brake lights as to when to brake myself. It was great stuff with 3 of us going hell for leather in the final laps and gaining on roadrunner in 4th/5th.
I had my wary eye on Lazlow approaching and felt like i was going to be in a Red Bull Z4 sarnie but was glad he kept station behind rather than messing with a great close battle. Well done  :)

I agree on Peters comment that peeps will be more wary of T1 next time. I guess i would rather the cut warning was there than not, to prevent anyone straightlining it. But it would be nice if it actually gave a warning than an instant stop and go  :P

When these GTC cars became available i tested them all only a few laps but chose the Z4 coz it just suited me better than the others, i honestly didn't know it was gunna turn out to be the "best" car. I'm not gunna kid myself the car is making me look better than i am,  but i have to say that i think its one of the slowest in a straight line. Most cars last night were going away from me on the straights, its only cuz the Z4 is so good going round corners and you can get the power on very early.

I really struggled to get on with the other cars except the Viper.

I think at the next few tracks its going to be a little closer, especially at Monza.

Wing settings and getting good runs out of the important corners can mask reality in terms of straight line speed. I dunno about everyone else but I was running 1-4 wing last night which meant I was pretty awesome in a straight line (or slightly bending line as it is at Combe ;)).

I agree. Great fun racing you guys in GTR2 rather than chasing iracing stats with tracks and cars I have no interest in.

I was running 1-4 in the Aston. It was pretty awesome in the corners (the 911s in particular are dangerously slow mid-corner in comparison - almost as bad as the VCC :laugh:) but I was getting killed by everything on the straights.

The best solution to the corner cutting problem would be to not use the chicanes. They were only put in as a safety measure and that is not really a concern in sim racing. It’s not as if they really add to the driving pleasure. :yes:

i'm getting a slight whiff of resentment from Truetom about Castle Combe  ;) ...  :laugh:

That explains a lot, I was scratching my head at your straightline speed at the start of the race. :D

:lol:
Purdie, your powers of deduction are surely parallel to those of a certain Mr S. Holmes  :laugh:


I'll be very happy if I can keep that up 8)

Being a slow ;) non-english speaker I must confess that I don't really know the true meaning...and I even don't resent being the butt of a joke.  :P

No, no, Jose, you got it all wrong. The best solution to the corner cutting problem would be to not use the track anymore. YAY for me! :clap:

TT
 

So we're not just moaning about the z4's this time then ;)


Another good race for me, though the early stop-go kinda felt like a kick in the teeth. Though after that i didnt pick another one up and just tried to get the hammer down as much as i could. After pitting i seemed to end up in 5th after everyone seemed to pit but quite far away from Roadrunner and i couldnt close the gap down. Thankfully he picked up a stop-go and suddenly I ended up 15 secs from Prof with about 15mins to go and I tried hard to close the gap, picking up a few tenths here and there managing to getit down to 10 secs by the flag.

I dont think there is anything wrong with this track and would be ideal for GTC/GT3 sprints. Its simple, you know the rules on corner cutting, the rules dont bend, the track doesnt decide to give it to people randomly! All track extents are marked by lines running around the edges of the track, dont expect the kurbs to be part of the track!

Missed your post Smokey, no worries, it was a weird race with all the stop goes etc, managed to get back up the field from the back so not too much damage done :)  plus the car didn't receive too much damage :)