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Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:25	(20 mins)
Race:	20:45	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT2 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Seeded from real-world conditions, fixed for the full event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero)
Track: Road America v1.0.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_roadamerica).
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=199;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The SRou TeamSpeak server will not be available during this race.

Anyone got any GT2 times round here yet?

Ask me again tomorrow night about 10 minutes into qualifying when I've actually done some laps. :laugh:

Not done any GT2 laps yet Gazza, but should be a few of us having some praccy online from about 8:30 tonight I believe.

think i did some 2:08s with 40mins race fuel onboard when i ran some practise laps a couple of weeks ago. That gives Legsy something to aim for  ;)

Attention all drivers.

The SRou TeamSpeak facility will be unavailable for this race. This is purely so we can see if the addition of TS has any impact on the number of CTDs we've been having recently.


Both the recent car pack and SRou TS were incorperated in to our racing lives at about the same time. We just wish to see if things get any better by not having TS in the equation so sadly this race will be a quieter one. For the full effect of the test it's probably better if everyone refrains, so please consider not using TS even if you use another server. Many Thanks.

Mission accomplished, see you tomorrow  :fencing: ;D

Lol, best I've managed so far is 1m10.1 in the Gallardo.  Off the pace as normal then.... ;(

Sounds like you've got a rocket ship to me, you'll be lapping everyone with that pace ;)

I'm looking doubtful for this race. My upgrade to ADSL2 has gone live this afternoon and the longest connection I've had to the Internet so far has been about 30 mins, usually it's between 5 and 10 mins. And just to make it worse it's refusing to attempt to connect at higher sync speeds that I used to get on the old ADSL Max technology. Fingers crossed it sorts itself out ASAP.

Great, thanks, that makes me feel much better...  ;)

Bugger - same problems tonight as I've been seeing with P&G.  When I try and connect, it loads up the same number of drivers in the same order each time before pausing for a moment and then CTD'ing.  Tricky to count them, but it was after approx. 15 drivers - tonight it was always when Gazza was loading, but I think that was just down to the order and not Gazza in particular.

I'm stumped - really frustrating.  Does GTR2 have a log it dumps errors to all?

Hope you all had a good race anyhow!

Cheers, Ross.

I've had enough of the Gallardo. It's got a stupid dead spot in the engine (which isn't apparent in the physics file), and despite having it's big brother's great balance and excellent traction, unlike the Murcielago it has dire brakes which either don't stop you (hence me chucking it off on lap 1 rather than running into the back of various people) or which allow you to dive inside M3s before suddenly locking up at the rear - despite a big forward bias - and spitting you off. After the second one I gave up, which was a shame because I'd had a great dice with Prof, Picnic and JPS up until then in their fast but slow cars. :'(

Yeah, I noticed that as well, right at the top of it's rev range....I thought it gave the car a bit of character.  At least it sounds nicer than the 'old man whistling in your ear' 997.

A CTD in practice and I saw loads of others with the same, so that rules out TeamSpeak as expected. Next is third party track, then addon cars, then skins I guess?

Had a good race with Jonzo in parts in that race. I gave him the old Sharkey bum wiggle at one point, proving that I still have some moves left in my old age. ;)

Glad I didn't see that  ;)

Congrats TT  :ninja:         Great Result nice one for the Legends Team TT

Yes I was right the 666  :devil: :devil:  Bi Turbo handled with understeer at all the dangerous places not recommended at RA   finished a respectable 15th after some great battles with Prof, Gizmo, Spanner, Smokey, Picnic, but to name a few :)

Really enjoyed that, had a black screen and CTD in Quali for the information of the SROU Engineers.

Good qual, terrible race! :D

I was a little bit overcautious at the start then on the 2nd lap last corner I geared up instead of down and got too close to the side of the track and got me in the gravel. Gravel was very difficult to get out of. After that I tried to make some ground and came up to Jose and passed him on the inside of t1 but to my surprise came back at me at t2. I caught up to him at t3 only to see him loose it in front of me. I was hoping to sneak in on the inside but that never happened and I ran into him and damaged my car pretty badly, possibly damaging his car. Sorry about that m8, probaly ruined both our races. Stupid move on my part :(

Getting back to the pits was fun, fixed it up and just drove around to the finish.

Congrats to TT, Purdie, and Gazza for the podium. :)

thanks for having me. :)

Had a great race with Carl and Gazza.....first I was ahead of Carl; closing in on Gazza, when I ran wide and put it on the grass...letting Carl get past me....then Carl put it on the grass....letting me back through....then I ran wide again  :(

Finished the race with a very fast Evert pushing me all the way :fencing:.....and just managing to hold on to 5th place at the end :o
Good racing all!!

Just for the record I had one CTD during Quali.

Sorry for the accidental block JPS whilst trying to avoid the smoke trail being left by NSFast. Thats the first time I have seen smoke like that with my new computer system and it's so much nicer than on my old 'low detail' one (and much harder to see through).  ;D

The BMW was not happy at this track and nothing I did could get rid of the understeer. A case of laps when full of fuel being just as fast as qually. My profile tells me I have done 2:08 there in the past - nowhere close today.

The different performance of various cars and inevitable accidents meant I was racing others throughout the race. Lots of fun, fair racing guys, thank you.  ;D

Well done to the podium.

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090317%20U9LS/index.html)

Oh I forgot to say......a good solid performance for Team Oldie tonight...finishing 5th, 7th and 10th.
Well done guys!!

I used to get this when I had a Matrox TripleHead2Go and a very large screen resolution, 3840x1024. Only happened online though.

We've already had events at standard tracks (Dubai for instance) so that only leaves cars, skins, and server/network.

Dont think it was a stupid move, never easy to tell what side to go.
I dont think you got damage from hitting me, it was the 997 that ran in to the back of you. :o

oh that makes sense now, my rear was all over the place, I thought it was just me but I did wonder why I had no rear end grip.

Well..certainly not my happiest hunting ground this place...had 0 laps praccy in the M3..qualied unsuprisingly quite low down...got as far as t5 an a few rejoined cars left me know where to run..couldnt stop once on the grass...next stop spanner (sorry m8)...made up a few places an with 10 mins or so to go ran wide through the kink got back on and stayed left knowing i was beat..but following car decided to try n go through me rather than round. decided enough was enough a few laps later...roll on wherever`s next

It wasnt pretty i can assure you  :laugh:

B'ah that didnt go quite to plan. Thought i was on for a decent crack at a top 5 this eve for some reason  ::) Was doing regular 2:07s in race trim and 2:06's in qual trim only a couple of hours before tonights race, but then tonight the car felt bloody awful  ???
I had traumatic understeer in the slow corners with nice doses of dramatic oversteer in other corners ! :surrender:

I lost all confidence in the car during qually when it threw me off sideways mid corner a couple of times. I did some emergency tweaking and managed a lowly 11th? on grid  :(
Race was a constant sandwich between Legzy ahead and Simons sinister presence behind. Every time i pulled a gap on simon to try and catch Legz i would have a moment/wobble and Shark would be back attacking me. It certainly kept me on my toes the whole race !
We swapped places a couple of times down the s/f straight in the race and eventually simon got by me with about 7 mins to go and although i closed up a few times he kept my 8th place and i followed home a disapointed 9th. It was a good race long battle on similar pace, shame i never got close enough to put Legz under some pressure.
Grip levels and handling felt so different this eve it was like i used a completely different setup....back to the race engineer for this track :clown:

Well done to TT for a fine win and the fellow pody guys.  :thumbup1:

That was really hard work tonight. 

I guess the temps were alot higher than in the practice i was doing on the server last night but i was a second off the times i was doing ???  Low 2.08's tonight but last night was doing low 2.07's very consistently. Not sure what to do to the car when the temps are higher except adjust tyre pressure.


Start was ok and i managed to get passed the guy in 4th on the long straight (sorry cant remember who it was). The top 3 were clearing off and it became obvious the 2 behind me were gunna be right with me the whole race. Fortunately everytime one of them got close to me they would go wide and drop back again allowing the other one to have a go at me  :D :D

They were much quicker than me through the corners and on braking but i just had enough straight line speed to get a little gap before the turns. Had to just try and not make any mistakes but C Hart finally got me at the right hander down the hill before the bridge but managed to stay with him all down the finish straight gaining in the slip stream, he defended the inside but i had alot of speed and took the normal line and retook him round the outside of turn 1  :o :o  (best move ive ever done!!)

Managed to hold on for the last 6 or so minutes for a hard earned 3rd.

Grats TT and Purdie

Great racing C Hart very close and fair  :) thats why i love this league!

I was struggling with my wheel i bit tonight, every so often the wheel would twitch and go out of line. At one point i was driving with the wheel at 2 o'clock to go straight.

AHA! This is a proper track - it has hills and valleys, sand, trees, bridges and both corners.  :P

Had a CTD in P1 and a full freeze (had to restart PC) in Q2. Came back just in time to make another fast lap to give me 3rd place in Q2. I practiced with 3 wing and was a bit quicker but was defo on the edge the whole time, so I put wing to 4 and it worked.  :)
A great quali laptime, Napo!  :o  Was impressed and I was a bit worried - two seconds per lap is a huge leap to bridge. So I decided to stay close to Purds and go for 2nd. Managed to stay more or less close to both and after I saw Napo wasn't that quicker in race spec I concentrated on stability and consistency. After Napo made his mistake I was lucky - Purdie was making small mistakes that enabled me to stay close, even if he was quicker in his good laps. We exchanged places three times - once when he went off, when he made a move on a downhill straight (good move, didn't really count on you staying on track with such a late braking) and when he went off, again.  ;)  Decided I will not be surprised again, though I saw you were trying. A lot.  :D   Were you on softs?
Expected a higher place from MJ, considering his former achievements in LS. Also, his practice laptimes were on par with mine. Well, I guess it was a bad day for Porsche.  ::)
I admire JPS for trying in his "car".  ;D
Well done pody.  8)

TT 

Okay, that's not good news then as that's exactly what I'm using.  Mine's the analogue version at the moment, was yours?  Did you ever figure out a fix?  It seems like it only CTDs when joining when there's more than x drivers, if I'm already joined it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Anyone here successfully using SoftTH with three screens?  That would require a new mother board and gfx card mind you....

Cheers, Ross.

I had the analogue one too. I sold the whole lot when I a friend got himself a 1080p 42" telly and proved that wasn't a problem so I did likewise.

I found I could often join a server but the car joining, that would cause the CTD if already there, could cause a CTD if they joined after me. That seemed less consistent though. I could drive all the cars offline. One thing you can try now I couldn't back then is don't load the skin packs as I expect this was a GFX related buggette. Maybe the plainer skins supplied with the physics pack are ok. When I had the TH2G I had to race on the middle screen of the 3 at 1280x1024. That worked fine in game but was a bit galling to see 2 black monitors either side :(

Just out of interest picnic - what gfx card were you using at the time you had these problems?  I'm currently using an ATI Radeon 4850.  I'm wondering if it's a combination of the gfx and Matrox.  I'll have a to do a bit more digging on this as I really like having the three screens.  Will try without the skin pack as well though.

Cheers, Ross.

I was actually shocked to be able to race tonight in the end as we had 'guests', but they left at just the right time for me to join before qually. But the lack of preparation showed when it came to the race.

Made up a couple of places with people going off early & was being held up by Evert till about lap six. I had gone out on softs without thinking about it & was all over the back of him through the corners & corner exits. Kept getting alongside on the straights but once I was out the slipstream he'd be safe, with his extra M3 power aided him to defend the corner again & again. Finally made a committed move to own a corner but Evert blocked & I had nowhere to go but the grass or his car, took the grass. Lost me a couple of seconds but started catching again, then made another mistake from frustration/effort & decided to take it easy. Evert started inching out the gap but the gap back to MJ was comfortable.

Later as my tyres started to struggle a little more, Shark got past MJ & started closing my comfort zone to lead to a nervous final 10 mins.
Luckily I just kept it steady & came home with just under two secs to spare. Another couple of laps would have been tough to hold on!

A solid practice for Sunday that. :)

I think the rules state you shouldn't be running an engine that hot, if it had happened in Q someone would have complained. After nsfast got passed me it made it impossible to fight back as you couldn't see where you were going. It cost me several seconds the first time it happened as I couldn't see anything but was expecting to find a car sans engine so backed out to hope to avoid it if still on track  :-\

May I also take this opportunity to remind people the pit limiter should be used in all sessions, not just during the race pit stops. I've seen several cases recently of speed limiter abuse :no:

From behind the wheel it is obviously hard to judge where your opponent is when breaking into a turn. Yesterday I was under the impression I could hold the race line and I did.
Now after watching the replay I still think I was right to do so, allthough it probably meant breaking hard for you. Shame for it was an interesting fight.

Guilty on that front!  Apologies, I know now.

DO NOT DISCUSS INCIDENTS ON THE FORUMS!

Do not make me angry! You will not like me when I'm angry! >:( :taz: :wetfish:

Yeah, no complaints from me. I went for it knowing one of us would have to give way, & I was prepared (if not ready :D) to do so  8)
If I hadn't made the 2nd mistake about three laps later I might have had a chance to get back with you, but once you were under no pressure I just couldn't keep up. But it was a good scrap while it lasted. My F430 just needed a fraction more power for this track. I'll see if I can muster some up for Sunday's rematch. Hopefully MJ will keep up too ;)

I might have qualified a bit better, but once I hit a low 2:08 I thought it best to hide out in the pits rather then risk a CTD on the track.

Well St Patrick's day lived up to its expectations for me! Got dragged off after work and had a few Guinness's on an empty stomach so was quite merry. I missed my BeRacing WTCC race at Zandvoort and just made it for practise at Road America  :)

Tested on Monday night so already had a setup and just loved every minute (apart from the last few laps ;)) of driving the event. Got a ctd with error report etc in practise (sorry to keep banging on about it Dave, mentioning it for diagnosis problems ;)) and was fine thereafter. Was quite chuffed with my quali lap altho on another run i was -0.4s up but ran wide on that fast right hander and still not enough to catch Napo's sensational pole time   8) ;)

Start was fine and I was keeping tabs on Napo before his dodgy downshift (i did the same thing later at the same point!!). Thought I could pull a slightly bigger gap on TrueTom but he maintained a steady pace and I made a mistake and he slipped past. The strongest point for me was the 911's straight line speed and the move I pulled off was down to confidence on the brakes into T3, but to be fair it wasn't a move you would attempt on a public server, just a trusted foe ;)

With 15 mins to go I made another mistake (amongst many minor ones) and for all my efforts (as TT saw  ;)) I couldn't catch him as he must have pitted to drive the Scuderia version!  :P and it finished with a deserved win for Truetom  :laugh:

ps. MJ will be back in the enduro i'm sure  :scooter:

Thats fighting talk mister  :fencing: 

Im still bemused why the car felt so skittish last night, i ran a post mortem later by jumping into the srouk server again and was doing 2:07 'Race' laptimes within 3 laps !  ???
It applied to both qual and race sessions, i had to change my qual setup mid session as the 2:06 times i was doing earlier converted to 2:09 & 10 times in qually :blink:

I am not a happy bunny losing out to two fezzas in the form of Legz and shark during the race either !  :P Good job purds held up the Porsche flag  8)
I dont know what wing Legz was running but his f430 left me for dead down the straights and i was only 4 rear wing  :o

Hopefully i can make sundays race (though 60/40 at moment) and i will seek my revenge muhahaha..... :gun_bandana:

Was running with wing at 3 MJ. Though in those early laps I was getting a very good exit on the last turn & was probably getting a better slipstream from Evert then you were from me.
What I do know is that even with just 3 wing, Evert's M3 was faster when I pulled out of his slip ???

I was on 2-4 wing in the Fezza Mark. I might have been better off with 1-2 wing though. :)

nVidia 8800GTX

No worries Prof, smoke did look good though, if a little difficult to drive behind...certainly made it interesting :)

Sorry about the smoke guys. I didn't know it was that bad. I'll pull into the pits next time.

Not sure why it overheated during the race, I didn't have a problem with the engine in practice or qualifying.

The race was the usual good qualify poor race for me. Had fun chasing JPS, Prof and Picnic though.

the temperature went up during the race.

Sorry about that bit of epic driving stupidity :wetfish:
Don’t think my brain could compute that I was actually going faster than an M3