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Title: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 18, 2009, 08:12:41 AM +0000
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:25(20 mins)
Race:20:45(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT1 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.5.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519).
Weather: Seeded from real-world conditions, fixed for the full event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero)
Track: Valencia GP
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

Server: UKGTR Upper Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=200;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 6
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 21, 2009, 06:22:00 PM +0000
Unfortunately this race has been delayed by a week (along with the rest of the season).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 6
Post by: Legzy on March 29, 2009, 01:25:06 PM +0100
I've just been looking at my dates, I think this should be the 7th April (not 6th) & if so... I can't make this one  :'(
Will be great to see the new skins in action! Lazlow, look after that Corvette paint job  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 29, 2009, 04:30:23 PM +0100
Yep, 7th of April, sorry for any confusion. :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: spanner on April 05, 2009, 12:14:07 PM +0100
Corr, these things dont like to be thrown around this track, bit too tight and twisty for them and I seem to be struggling to get the power down. Slwly managed to get into the low 1.30's but we'll see what online running does for it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Smokey on April 05, 2009, 11:23:32 PM +0100
   Sorry about missing Sundays race [ April 5 ] for test but emergency came up. Won't be able to make this race either [ April 7 ] if it's still on. So far I haven't had any issues with computer such as ctd's or freezes. Only my own inability to drive.

                                                                              Thanks, Smokey


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 06, 2009, 07:35:50 AM +0100
This race is on. As per the test race, if you've been having CTD problems I strongly suggest turning down graphical options, especially shadows, ensuring that simple debris collisions are on and that trackside characters and other animations are off, and maybe also reducing the number of sounds.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Truetom on April 06, 2009, 08:27:09 AM +0100
Corr, these things dont like to be thrown around this track, bit too tight and twisty for them and I seem to be struggling to get the power down.

Lol, you're right, I get to turn in more with lift-off oversteer than with wheel.  :D  You gotta do race laptimes under 1:30, Span.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: spanner on April 06, 2009, 05:58:42 PM +0100
I'm nearly there TT just need more practise time :sweatdrop: That was using my standard meds all round and 50L but i suspect it might need more fuel than that.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 07, 2009, 12:18:34 PM +0100
Unlikely to be able to attend. Didn't get to work till 10am this morning cause the battery went flat on the Beamer this morning again. Had to jump start it from the Honda and then get a new battery fitted from Halfrauds as soon as they opened. Going to be working late to make up the hours.

At least it means that it shouldn't die again whilst I'm on holiday next week. ;D

Does the original race post need updating though as I assume it's showing the old car pack version number when people will need the new car pack instead?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 07, 2009, 02:26:33 PM +0100
At least it means that it shouldn't die again whilst I'm on holiday next week. ;D

Let's hope it's the battery and not the alternator then! :laugh:

Does the original race post need updating though as I assume it's showing the old car pack version number when people will need the new car pack instead?

Well spotted, you passed the test. ;) :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 07, 2009, 04:20:48 PM +0100
Let's hope it's the battery and not the alternator then! :laugh:

I had the original battery tested and they said the alternator was fine, it was just the battery not holding it's charge anymore. It's 7 years old poor thing, but it didn't stop me using the 10 year old battery in the S2000 to jump start it. LOL.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: purdie on April 07, 2009, 06:04:01 PM +0100
looking forward to revving the nuts off the DBR9 in the midfield  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Busi on April 07, 2009, 06:55:12 PM +0100
* Does some dry test laps *

* Checks weather forecast *

DOH!!!!!!!! :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 07, 2009, 06:58:22 PM +0100
looking forward to revving the nuts off the DBR9 in the midfield  8)

Well if you're in the midfield I might as well put my name on the wooden spoon right now!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: purdie on April 07, 2009, 08:09:51 PM +0100
looking forward to revving the nuts off the DBR9 in the midfield  8)

Well if you're in the midfield I might as well put my name on the wooden spoon right now!

well.... thats what my McLaren team manager told me to say...  ::) hehe


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Busi on April 07, 2009, 08:32:38 PM +0100
PURDS YOU NEED THE NEW CARPACK! 2.9.5.1!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 07, 2009, 08:38:45 PM +0100
PURDS YOU NEED THE NEW CARPACK! 2.9.5.1!!!

Ditto phspok - the physics pack will do, the skins don't matter.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 07, 2009, 08:39:47 PM +0100
ps. Must apologise for not making it more obvious in the announcement that the pack has changed!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: purdie on April 07, 2009, 08:41:14 PM +0100
yeah sorry guys i didn't read the announcement. My bookmark is the forum and i have just changed it to the front page so i read the announcements

8:40 and only 17% downloaded........my bad  :-\

Enjoy the race  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: phspok on April 07, 2009, 09:32:14 PM +0100
Thanks Dave
yes I knew, I thought id d/l'd last night, but had not, not enough time left to get it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 07, 2009, 09:41:28 PM +0100
Well done TT on the really really close finish with Busi.

Bit rusty myself after managing to join the race 5 minutes into qually, but plonked my trusty Lambo mid-grid

I was going quite well in the race. Managed to get past Prof fairly early on after gaining three places from some incident at the front which saw Busi, Jose and Hal all drop back. But after that I drove too hard and kept half spinning the car for a while. Eventually after about my 5th half spin I got a proper rhythm and speed. I was consistently lapping in 1:30s and for the last 7 minutes or so I closed Prof and Jose down at about 3 seconds a lap. One more lap and I would have been with their good looking fight, but wasn't to be.

P.S. Was some warping from Everts car tonight, was quite hard to follow him and know where I could put my car without potentially getting got by the warping gremlins.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: H@L9000 on April 07, 2009, 09:44:47 PM +0100
I forgot to put my race setup on :'(

I raced as hard as I could to minimise the damage but i was involved in a tangle with Busi and Jose, not sure if that was my fault but sorry if it was. I should not have been there as I was going to pit.

I really screwed up my championship chances their. :'(

Seems like I missed out on some race action. Looking forward to the next one.

Well done podiums. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Mark J on April 07, 2009, 09:45:15 PM +0100
Doh !  what a numpty  ::)  the oldest one in the book...dont floor it on cold tyres  :clown:

Got huge power oversteer off kerb on exit of T1 and immediately put myself 12 seconds behind the last car and about 22 secs behind the leaders  :'(

From then on it was a boring hotlapping session with nobody to race. Only caught up with DG in 9th once then i span again  ::) So annoying and made for a carp race for me.
Usual frustrating scenario, pump in regular 1:29s in praccy and low 1:30's race pace only to find on race night that i now have a heap of understeer & locking cold fronts and running upto 2secs a lap slower  >:(

What a waste of time.  :(

Just a thought, but if low turnouts continue in GT1, could it be worth swapping it for a GTC sprint series next season? It would attract more racers and the racing would stay close and personal.  :-\ Shame, but the low turnouts always seem to happen to GT1 series, i guess because they are such demanding buggers to drive quickly, but footie was also on this eve so may have affected it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Busi on April 07, 2009, 09:51:43 PM +0100
wow, just... wow!! ;D

Got pole on what was gonna be my race setup with soft fronts and medium tyres, but realised softs were not gonna last 40 minutes. So I changed to meds but they were very cold in the opening laps. My car understeerred and I went slightly off letting Jose and H@L through. On lap 3 they touched and as I tried to avoid the chaos around the outside, a slight move by Jose made me spin him while he was almost stopped, sorry mate!

I waited for him so I was down to 6th I think. I made a good comeback (a lot of warping btw on your car Evert, your car was moving forward-backwards continuously) and I was up to 3rd behind Gazza.

First tough battle when I caught him, it was not easy to overtake in such a circuit. I was trying to use the corner speed of the Lambo to have some good exits and try the move on the next corner. It finally worked, 3 or 4 laps later. Nice fight.

Then came THE battle lol I closed up on TT with about 8-10 laps to go. I was faster but again struggling to find a way past. I was running out of laps and TT was not gonna give me the place, noticed that when he started going defensive :D I tried a lot of different lines, everywhere it could be done actually ;D I tried to make it around the outside in some corners, but was not gonna happen. I almost did in T1 but ran wide doh!

Last lap, we both went off at the same corner LOL he rejoined earlier so I couldn't do anything else. I finished 1 tenth behind him. BRILLIANT BATTLE MATE :fencing:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Gazza49er on April 07, 2009, 10:17:43 PM +0100
Doh similar to H@l but not as bad i didn't load my proper race setup which meant i didn't have enough fuel  :-\

Top 3 or 4 pulled away at start just hanging on to TT but couldn't do much about it. Car didn't feel quite right at the rear so couldn't get the power on early on the exits like i had bin practising.

Then the top 3 appeared at one corner all facing the wrong way  :D so me and TT got through. Was doing similar lap times but always a good 4 second gap. I knew Busi was going to catch me at some point and he did. I held him off for a few laps but i had to back off otherwise i was not going to finish due to not enough fuel. Had to really crawl round the last 12 Min's but had enough gap to very luckily hold on to 3rd.

Grats TT and Busi

Shame about the turnout but I'm sure the football was a factor.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 07, 2009, 10:34:30 PM +0100
From then on it was a boring hotlapping session with nobody to race. Only caught up with DG in 9th once then i span again  ::) So annoying and made for a carp race for me.

At the rate you were catching me I thought if I blinked I'd miss you coming past, then you vanished again.

I couldn't get a handle on the car in qually, but in the race (on the same setup, same fuel even) it felt more comfortable, and I was soon chasing down JPS's Ford GT, which was really slow out of the slow corners (gearing issue?). The only corner I couldn't do was the uphill chicane before the final turn; I think I passed JPS twice before running off there and letting him back through until eventually I got a run on him out of the final corner and managed to stay ahead into T1 and then pull away.

Was then catching Spanner in dribs and drabs; sometimes a second a lap, sometimes nothing. Shark spun and was behind him for a few laps and that was helping me catch up, but when I finally got close enough to start thinking about a pass (and having gained another place from Evert's jumping 550) the rears passed into that evil 7 wear range where they turn to ice for two laps and I ran off, handing Evert his place back. :-[

Still can't quite work the Aston out. I think it's actually fairly quick (especially with the tweaks in 2.9.5.1) but I have terrible trouble feeling the edges of grip when steering and end up either not steering enough or cranking on way too much lock and wrecking the front tyres. THe brakes aren't much better for feel.

Just a thought, but if low turnouts continue in GT1, could it be worth swapping it for a GTC sprint series next season? It would attract more racers and the racing would stay close and personal.  :-\ Shame, but the low turnouts always seem to happen to GT1 series, i guess because they are such demanding buggers to drive quickly, but footie was also on this eve so may have affected it.

I don't think the Lower Sprint is much better. We were down 3 tonight for various reasons and there was also some silly soccer match on which some may have been watching. Next season we will probably go down a different route, possibly even putting P&G in one of the Tuesday night slots.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Prof on April 07, 2009, 10:38:21 PM +0100
A massive pb in qualification meant I was racing against people I consider much faster than me. True to form, I soon lost a place to Simon but was able to hang on behind him for a while. When the three leaders tangled I inherited fourth place and then third when Shark span.

The fast people were catching up though. Busi went past easily to take third and I allowed Hal to unlap himself as I was slower and he was politely waiting behind not wanting to cause an accident. This left Jose on my tail and I spent a fun quarter of an hour swapping positions with him - I think his brakes and my tyres were at the end of their lives and it made for an entertaining battle - I hope you thought it was a fair one Jose, good driving  ;D

Fourth is a dizzying position for me even with only half a field present, I assume the draw of Arsenal and Man U proved too temting for many (Porto and Villareal too I'm sure)

Congrats to the three who finished ahead of me!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: picnic on April 07, 2009, 10:53:05 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090407%20U9US/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: spanner on April 07, 2009, 10:58:36 PM +0100
A good time for me in qually and i thought i'd be up for a good race with MJ. But come the race it was a bit disapointing really. Looked back after my big moment in the first corner and i see MJ diving into the gravel, oh well. Thought i'd go with hards on the rear as i wasnt happy with the wear rate i'd seen practising but knew it would take a few laps to get up to temp but the rather low temps didnt help as i take quite a while before I was able to nail it properly out of the slower stuff which is how Evert got by early on and as he was warping a bit i thought i'd just let him by. Maybe it was the lower temps but i was struggling with grip everywhere and my times were nothing like what i'd practised before. By about half distance the fronts were knackered which i wasnt expecting. Valencia was always going to be a hard track for these cars especially the aston, looking forward to silverstone, always love that track.

Hmm its a shame the numbers are dropping, few seasons ago you'd struggle to get in before the limit :( But with PnG and Iracing taking people away its suffering. I hope the races dont die completely as i'd really miss it. 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Truetom on April 07, 2009, 11:02:26 PM +0100
 :sweatdrop: Err... Wait, lemme get another beer.  :D
What can I say, EPIC battle Busi, was owerwhelmed and exhausted when it was over.  :sweatdrop:  
Qualified 4th, would be 3rd but couldn't quite get down to my pb, so... Was lucky to see front 3-way battle of H@l, Jose and Busi, they were slowing eachother down, so when they touched... They were all individually (much) quicker but the little mouse slipped through. ;D  Then I was maintaining a gap to Gazza - not that I deliberately held it at 4 seconds, we were just equal. Then I saw Busi closing on Gazza, was hoping they'd have a bit longer battle but it was not to be. Busi came at me with 1 sec per lap faster pace and, like Dave said, I was expecting to blink and be left behind. So I didn't blink.  :D  Was trying to hold the defensive line and leave space for you, Busi. I think I managed 'cause I heard the Lambo more times beside me than I did behind.  :P  Watched the replay, very enjoyable to see the alternate lines you took, Busi. Lol, I think you really tried everything there was to try. If you'd make a video I think there would really be something to see.  8)
Will make an offering to Ruthia which kept me with no big mistakes throughout the race. Except in the last lap, lol. I really thought I threw it all away. Well, I did, but so did you.  :P

Good show, Legends. Too bad so few people were here. Seems like we're a dying species.  :(

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: picnic on April 07, 2009, 11:09:21 PM +0100
There were 23 for the last round, hopefully this week was just a blip  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Busi on April 07, 2009, 11:47:21 PM +0100
yeah, 23-24-19-23-12 next race we are back to 20 at least ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Legzy on April 08, 2009, 12:19:00 AM +0100
Just a thought, but if low turnouts continue in GT1, could it be worth swapping it for a GTC sprint series next season? It would attract more racers and the racing would stay close and personal.  :-\ Shame, but the low turnouts always seem to happen to GT1 series, i guess because they are such demanding buggers to drive quickly, but footie was also on this eve so may have affected it.
I don't think the Lower Sprint is much better. We were down 3 tonight for various reasons and there was also some silly soccer match on which some may have been watching. Next season we will probably go down a different route, possibly even putting P&G in one of the Tuesday night slots.
I wont be able to turn up for as many Tuesday's as I have been, as I've done a deal with the Mrs. The conclusion being that of the Tuesday rotation, I'd miss the GT1's, because like MJ said, it's tougher to drive GT1's & I tend to enjoy the racing experience more with the lower classes personally.

But will be interesting to see if people suddenly start appearing regularly again for Tuesday night GTR2, now a slot might be under threat from the high interest levels in P&G.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Steve Holmes on April 08, 2009, 08:24:19 AM +0100
I definitely planned to be there last night, did a quick praccy in the 550 on Monday and after 12 laps was running low 30s full race trim, so should have been been dipping under 30 in the race, but a Tuesday pm of micro-napping at work (you know, the whole head-lolling thing) told me I'd best avoid racing and making a pigs ear of my (and possibly someone else's) race.  Lay on the sofa watching the BTCC coverage instead.  (Football, wassat then?)  ;D

Given that Valencia seems to suit me I *hope* to be there next week, but stuff going on may get in the way. :(  I seem to have made a setup breakthrough (yes, running very high rear rebound so the backend skids a lot on entry actually ISN'T the fastest way round for me) so I wanna try the GTs more.  Be a shame to start getting them just as series start getting canned.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 08, 2009, 08:47:05 AM +0100
Still time to vote for this circuit............

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Truetom on April 08, 2009, 08:50:52 AM +0100
Still time to vote for this circuit............

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0

Close the darn thing, DG.  :P

... a Tuesday pm of micro-napping at work (you know, the whole head-lolling thing) told me I'd best avoid racing ...

Had to do some research to figure out that one.  :D  I take a 30 min nap when I get back from work and it's enough to be ready for an evening race, albeit maybe not as demanding as the one yesterday.  :-\

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 08, 2009, 10:40:41 AM +0100
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0

Close the darn thing, DG.  :P

:laugh: It'll be done and dusted by the time I come back from holiday at the end of next week. I've been mentally tuning all of Tony's posts out for weeks now. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: JPS on April 08, 2009, 07:53:27 PM +0100

I couldn't get a handle on the car in qually, but in the race (on the same setup, same fuel even) it felt more comfortable, and I was soon chasing down JPS's Ford GT, which was really slow out of the slow corners (gearing issue?). The only corner I couldn't do was the uphill chicane before the final turn; I think I passed JPS twice before running off there and letting him back through until eventually I got a run on him out of the final corner and managed to stay ahead into T1 and then pull away.


Yeah good battle DG, you seemed to just get quicker each lap :o  Still tuning the GT40 for slow bends at this point.
Congrats LR TT 8)  and podium.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: H@L9000 on April 08, 2009, 11:18:58 PM +0100
Busi went past easily to take third and I allowed Hal to unlap himself as I was slower and he was politely waiting behind not wanting to cause an accident.

Thanks for that Prof. I did not want to slow anyone down as I was a lap behind by my own doing. I was not going to make a move until I could see that you were going to let me pass.

TT has a big lead over me in the championship now. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: Truetom on April 09, 2009, 08:18:19 AM +0100
Oh, yea! Not even one win.  :D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Sprint (GT1) - Valencia (GP) - Apr 7
Post by: H@L9000 on April 09, 2009, 04:28:37 PM +0100
Oh, yea! Not even one win.  :D

 :P :P :-*