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This will be an official, non-championship event. We'll be starting early enough that anyone wishing to see the first IndyCar race of the season live should be able to do so.

The server will be restricted to 20 slots as part of our ongoing investigation into the rash of CTDs. If you have suffered regular CTDs in Season 9, please ensure that you have shadows set to minimum (first first setting above Off) and that Simple Debris Collision is On.

Practice 1:	19:00	(10 mins)	Note: early start time!
Qual 2:	19:10	(10 mins)
Race:	19:20	(30 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any car from the UKGTR Car Pack v2.9.5.1 (here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
It would be helpful if we could have at least one of every new car (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=67.0)
Weather: dry
Track: Enna
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory stop

Server: UKGTR 2.9.5.1
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Championship standings can be found on the series page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=183&theme=3).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Any track that we haven't done (or scheduled) this season or in the winter break test season would be appreciated. Just something different please Dave 8).

Looking at our current track download list, I've not driven at any of the following:
Le Mans
Mont Treblant
Mugello
Nogaro
Sebring
Suzuka

An endurance race at Sebring would be quite topical  ;)

Yeah...wouldnt argue against sebring  ;D

Le Mans....  ;D

 / Jorgen W

Road Atlanta  :drool:

Bathurst, please!!

Why am I the only one that ever seems to rave about this one!?

It is perfect for a super event.

Very very fast down the hill, very tight hill ( street circuit type ) section.
Up and down, adverse camber, Lots of good overtaking opportunities.

Please, please, please!?

M.

:)

Sebring sounds good.

Because it's a horrid place where small mistakes turn into massive pileups.

Agreed ;D

Birmingham Motorplex.  :)
Road Atlanta - though it was better in Sportscar GT, it's a bit narrow here.  :-\
Mugello - we don't use this track enough.
A1 Ring - love it.
Sepang - we never use it.
Dijon Prenois
Zolder.  :)

TT

I remain happy with any off my suggestion list & now any of TT's look good too (but not Dijon please).

Whatever track, put the starting time at least an hour earlier in the evening.

By convention we aim to finish around the normal time. :)

This race may not go ahead, depending on the outcome of tonight's GT3 test race. If necessary we'll do some sort of mass test with the various add on cars.

I've updated the first post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6023.msg104307#msg104307) above; because of the delay with the skin pack we'll run a short (but official) test race.

Trust DG to pick a track that nobody suggested.  :P
As I hate Enna I'll take the Marcos so that I, you and we can blame the track/car/driver combo for lap 1/Chicane of Doom carnage.  :devil: 

Darn, I was hoping for SE Zolder.  :-\

When DG said that, was he talking about Bathurst or Enna  ??? ;)

I wouldn't want to waste a good track like Sebring on a short race... ;)

If you put it that way ... GOOD choice!  :thumbup2:

if it is limited to 20 cars, then shouldnt those of us who have suffered the occasional or repeated Ctd get priority ? ie if you have had no ctds with new car packs then dont turn up  ;)...are there any?

I have had none and will hang back  ;D

Good point, Mark - hopefully we can fill the grid, but it would be very good if those experiencing the worst of the CTD nightmare could make a special effort to get in early and at least run through practice and qually.

perhaps a roll call of drivers who have suffered several ctd's could post their names in this thread, so that we have a heads up of who should be in the 20 ? 

I will stick my name in first as i have had a few, though certainly not every race and less so lately. The 'only' thing i did do was remove the motec HUD overlay from the GTR2-XD thingy as i use PD as well on a 2nd monitor. Might be nothing, might be something  :-\

Its in the GTR2-XD config file as this if anyone else wants to try it:-

; MotecHud visibility
; 0 = Hidden
; 1 = Visible
ShowMotec=0

One other thing, would reducing numbers to 20 only add another variable into 'what could be wrong' ? Thought we might be better off with say 25 drivers  :-\

25 would be into the number where we've had problems - 20 is low even for a test race so if we don't get CTDs (or get far fewer than 'norma'l) - it will point to a network rather than car problem.

Oh well, Enna's better than nothing I suppose ;D

I've had a fair few ctd this season in various races it seems. Dubai, Imola and Thruxton come to mind. Whats been the average attendance this season? have we been much more that 20? I suppose it might be a way of seeing if we are stressing the server too much maybe seeing if we still get problems with less cars which should be less taxing?

I do run GTR2-xd but i also run the hud but have removed the motec.dds file which has removed the dark background. I've run that for a while, in fact for the last year or so.

Can we try some new tracks, Dave? Road America and Silverstone have become regulars, what about tracks like Le Mans, Road Atlanta, Montreal, or Monaco? It'd be fun to drive new tracks.

Before you shoot down Monaco - We raced at Adria. TWICE :cursing:

Adria is nice.  :) Besides, there's a GT race there this year. Again.  ;)

Edit: Excuse me: I'm drunk.  :-*

I've had the odd CTD so I will turn up, if there is space.

As Legzy hinted at elsewhere, with the sprint race on tuesday only two days after the test race for the skins and cars and we're still entirely sure why we get CTD with these addon cars how likely are we going to be running on tuesday? Realised i better get some practise as we havent really raced for a while but are we going to postpone the rest of the season to try and understand it all better or are we just going to carry on and wait till the end?

I don't really see any course other than ploughing on with the season. We're just not able to get enough people to turn up for test races (it's always been a problem) and the CTDs don't appear to be discouraging people from racing so I'm not sure what other course of action we can reasonably take given that nobody seems to be able to reproduce these problems off line.

If the current car pack holds the problem... a new one built from scratch could well fix any issues. Fingers crossed  ;D

Well I've been working with computers for long enough to know better... ::) ;)

What is it they say? Trying the same thing again and again and expecting different results is a sign of madness... and the corollary, which I use at work a lot: computers don't do random.

Driving Marcos gives a thrill like no other car.  8)
I have only one problem: the rear brakes down cool down. Fronts do, rears don't. Even on 5 open, fronts grab superb and rears do as well, but after a lap the braking is unstable. Adding some throttle doesn't help much and the car is a threat. DG, you're my only hope - can you fix this? I like the car, but it's not a valid choice until this is fixed.  :(

TT

Bit late to fix it now the pack is mostly uploaded... :-\

The car pack (the largest component) is now available from FileFront as well as Humyo.

One of my favourites. ;D

is there a link to the skinpack anywhere? Tried searching on filefront but it didnt find it.

Till Dave pops it in the 1st post, you can get it off the 'server status' bit, near the top left of your screen.


We have four team Oldie skins to test tonight, I think we might need a volunteer for either GT1 Corvette or F430 GTC/GT2... if anyone could do the honours?

Im available to test a car for someone if needs be, just let me know

Server is up...

no ctd probs for me, skins all looked great. But bit of a low turnout so we still have no idea whether its a skin/car pack or network problem.

Hadnt done any praccy for this and went straight from an E-Type in P&G to a modern RSR at Enna...was never going to work out  ;D

I stole a Team Oldie F430 GTC and return it with only a few scratches on the left front... :laugh:

Thanks to those that turned up. :)

we just finished the race.... we loved it so much we're gonna run a GTC only race  ;D

Any one wants to join us, you've got about 15 mins

I'd love to join you but it's tea time.

Fun race. As usual no ctd or similar.

Replay and results posted

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except when you don't want them to!

Computers never do random (excepting the odd cosmic ray). Sometimes the patterns are complex and hard to discern but they never do random and if I had my way I'd sack any professional programmer who claimed they couldn't fix a problem because "it's just random".

Yes, yes - I know. You could say the same thing about most things in life - very little is truly random. But computers frequently seem to fail at random, often just after you thnk you 've fixed them. The hardest problems to fix are the ones which occur seemingly at random and for no identifiable reason.

Shame only 13 turned up tonight  :(. Dave, I could be wrong... but does that mean that people aren't fussed about the qually session drop outs, so like you said in another post, we'll just push on with the season? :-\

Thanks to Gazza & Dave for testing our new Oldie Corvette & F430 skins, chuffed to see them on track! 8)

Found myself in no mans land after 5 laps, big gap up to Simon & back to MJ. So stopped to wait at T1. Had some fun laps then with MJ in his Porka, till Enna got him  ;D
Did another lonely lap & decided to wait for Prof at T1. Let him past before starting the chase, was good fun again & like with MJ, I felt I was faster but not enough to pass safely on this track. Well not until Prof made a mistake half way round what turned out to be the last lap (5 mins early).

If I'd been thinking more clearly I'd have taken the GT2 version which nobody else did and which is the #1 candidate to replace my Lambo for the second half of the season.

Still time to vote for this circuit............

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0

No CTDs for me, but I think the turnout problem was one of new car packs needing to be downloaded, which I only just had time for before the race, then there was the strange race time which no doubt saw many missing people and then Enna being the track.

P.S. Those new Humyo links require registration so I downloaded off Gizmo IDNet instead, which for me ran at a nice and quick 850k/sec. However, just making the point that you make people register for even more stuff and things become even more inaccessible, especially when you consider there are 6 packs to download now instead of just one. :(

If I'd known that (1) Humyo would require registration to download larger things and (2) FileFront wasn't actually going away I wouldn't have bothered with it.

No CTD for me. Actualy none in the last events, I think the last time was at Vanilla Donington.  ::)
Marcos is a beast, I got shiver down my spine with the sound of it.  :tt1:  On the other hand, I needed 4 laps to disentangle myself from the GT2s.  :P  Then I crashed.  :lol:

TT

Sorry for the noobish looking maneover at the start TT. I pressed the brake and nothing happened. Forgot that standing start meant cold (no) brakes and sure it looked like I purposely nudged you off or somet, most embarrassing.

Then looked even worse when I was flying through the chicanes (more the first one than the second) way faster than your GT1 was. CAN'T SLOOOOOOW DOOOOOOWN! LOL.

I got a stop and go after only a few laps for being unable to control my car and then as usual at Enna a stop and go for speeding in the pit lane serving my stop and go. So I sort of went mad at the chicanes hoping that I would hit one and it didn't take long. ;D

In my defence my GTC Z4 was up against your GT2 car and was much slower on the straights. I think you could have passed at any time although my car made ground in some of the chicanes. Good fun trying to keep you back though, if I had realised it was the last lap I would have stopped trying to get a pb lap and concentrated on keeping you there.  ;D

Btw where did I miss the message about standing start? The race header said about knowing rules of rolling start as usual:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.

Seriously, it took my fastest lap of the race to pass you! You were getting great exits & it wasn't till late in the straights my extra grunt was gaining. Enjoyed it, but did laugh to see under my racing profile I now have a gold 1st  :lol: (for the class win)

Posted in chat during the 2 minute countdown - with such a small field it seemed ridiculous to do an entire pace lap. :laugh:

Well, I would vanquish the Marcos' tyres with a full roaring engine start (and spin and make a mess of a start), so I did it cautiously. The mighty Marcos' engine just burped and would die if I didn't have auto clutch.  :D