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Title: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on March 24, 2009, 06:52:06 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:05 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:15 (25 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps = 40 mins)

Track: Paul Ricard 1975 (v1.1; download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_paulricard))
Cars allowed: BMW Csl (251kW), Chevrolet Corvette (336kW)  i.e. the slower versions,  Ford GT40 and Ford Escort RS.
Time of Day Setting: 18:00
Start: STANDING


Server: UKGTL S7
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.7.0.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).
(4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=201;theme=5)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on March 24, 2009, 06:57:04 PM +0000
Any chance we can have the slow BMW too SBG? I'd love to get a chance to use 'that Oldie Skin'  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on March 24, 2009, 07:20:00 PM +0000
Any chance we can have the slow BMW too SBG? I'd love to get a chance to use 'that Oldie Skin'  ;D

Ruddy hell, thats the car I was looking for as its an ideal "driveable" car for here and a far better match up now :) Announcement amended.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 24, 2009, 07:21:57 PM +0000
ESCORT YAY! Thank you. I'll be sober for this one.  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on March 24, 2009, 07:33:55 PM +0000
Yup, that looks better. Nice one SBG... remember to bring your  8)'s to this one (as my car might be a bit bright ;))


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: spanner on March 24, 2009, 07:46:27 PM +0000
I take it you dont remember we ran this last season, well as a fun race? Dont thnk the corvette was available last time though. The bmw was good fun around here so i'll be nack in it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Minton on March 25, 2009, 06:46:51 AM +0000
Escort for me  ;D , gonna rev the nuts of that BDA.... Hopefully not destroy it in the process.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Blunder on March 25, 2009, 10:08:54 AM +0000
Yup, that looks better. Nice one SBG... remember to bring your  8)'s to this one (as my car might be a bit bright ;))

Everyone's gonna need Sunglasses! Lets do a Team Oldie BMW event again!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Madd-RIP on March 27, 2009, 06:49:54 AM +0000
 :'( Going to miss this one too due to work....real life sucks!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 27, 2009, 07:41:36 AM +0000
As an experiment I've also put the track on Humyo...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: dynosaur on March 27, 2009, 07:42:25 AM +0000
you could always catch cold, Madd!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: phspok on March 27, 2009, 10:13:55 AM +0000
Friends Romans Countrymen, lend me your ears.
I will be attempting this one from a friends house, I have never yet failed to join from his network
I have twice been unable to join from home. Once in GTL, and then again for the WestWood P&G race.
and at the Ring I lost connection after lap one.
Common factor is the server, and my home connection.

It is only a problem when joining a busy race with 20+ already in.
I have so far always been able to join UkGTR2 races, but I have always got in early, so maybe
that is just the reason why.

I power cycle the modem to get another IP, I reboot the PC, nothing seems to help, It just sits there
at the password box for a while then the green tick and red cross come back, eventually it says"Game is full"
so others are able to join. The conn is BT, and has always been fairly solid in the past, I have not suffered
the CTDs and dropped conns that others have.

I have to sort this, or I will not be able to do any more races, I can't spend hours practicing and testing
stuff only to not be able to join the race! the stress is too much  :(

Any help is much appreciated.

PC is Core2 Duo 6750, 4 gig RAM, 8800GT, Vista Home Prem 64 bit.
Bt Home Hub, from 1 gig LAN.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on March 27, 2009, 10:46:53 AM +0000
It just sits there at the password box for a while then the green tick and red cross come back, eventually it says"Game is full"
I've been getting that too, but during random midweek practice sessions mostly. But I've found that just clicking the cross, then attempting another rejoin usually does the trick. Also try pressing 'enter' when you've typed the password, or clicking 'the tick' if you normally press enter. I'm sure you've probably tried all that already. Also, might be worth joining a public server if you have problems, then trying ours again. Last resort, would be to not come on the pre-race practice server on race night, practice offline then join the real event. Hope you get it sorted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: phspok on March 27, 2009, 11:25:26 AM +0000
Ta for that Legz.
Yep I tried all the variations on hit return/click the tick, rejoin etc
However, your suggestion about don't join the pre race prac may hold oil (or water, or petrol come to that)
Goes along with something Phill Gill once said about the server knowing about you
and therfore won't allow multi logins, or it's confused and thinks it's a multi login.
In both cases when I have been unable to log in I have joined a public race then
dropped out and tried to join the UKGTx one, and it has still failed.
I will be a stealthy joiner next race  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Ade on March 27, 2009, 12:54:13 PM +0000
Also Matt check that another server hasn't popped up in the list as your typing in the password coz if it does it moves you off the the server you want, its got me a few times and i end up on the wrong track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: phspok on March 27, 2009, 03:35:07 PM +0000
Just had a quick run with the different cars here. All except the vette top out on the rev limiter
halfway down the straight at the longest gearing, and the Vette is right on the edge.

Is this intended? seems a bit rum.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: phspok on March 28, 2009, 03:01:59 PM +0000
I can now change 5th, dunno why I couldn't before. GT40 still tops out though.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Steve Holmes on March 29, 2009, 12:16:11 PM +0100
Think the glorious start to the F1 season may have inspired me to get back to simracing.  :)

And this track seems like a nice straightforward mini-LeMans, mad straights and lots of esses at the end of the lap.

Like Matt says, gearing seems a problem for some cars like the GT40, not quite maxing out the Corvette and the Beemer has lots of spare gears.  One mod that woulda been nice is the option for higher gearing for most cars once the add-on tracks with long straights came along, wouldn't exactly be unrealistic.

Corvette is massive fun, and awesome straightline speed, but a bit tricky transitioning from understeer to oversteer at the apex.  low 2:09s in that.  Beemer is a fraction slower, but much easier, just a fair bit of safe understeer, 2:10 dead.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on March 31, 2009, 10:10:34 PM +0100
Couple of us having a bash at this on server now


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: LigelC on April 01, 2009, 09:35:43 AM +0100
I appreciate you are into the latter part of the season but would it be okay for me to join you (in my usual place at the back) for the last few races.

Also do we know what track is being used for the next PnG race - last Thursday was great fun.

Laurie



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 01, 2009, 10:16:43 AM +0100
Five on last night was a good blast. Look out for SBG blasting past you on the straight in his Corvette  ::) ;), then you get to real him back in on the twisties  ;D
I think we're all back on for practice tonight. I need it with my high 1:12!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 01, 2009, 10:21:16 AM +0100
I hope to be on after 10ish


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: pribeiro on April 01, 2009, 08:07:31 PM +0100
I just did 1.55 with the GT40  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Minton on April 01, 2009, 11:05:46 PM +0100
Quote
I just did 1.55 with the GT40  Grin

1st of April init!!  :P  You did get me wondering for a few seconds there PR. :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Minton on April 01, 2009, 11:16:56 PM +0100
Did a 2.07.3 but the Escort burns up the rear tires quite bad but its good fun.
See you there.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: pribeiro on April 01, 2009, 11:55:22 PM +0100
Quote
I just did 1.55 with the GT40  Grin

1st of April init!!  :P  You did get me wondering for a few seconds there PR. :D

You got it   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 01, 2009, 11:58:07 PM +0100
High 2:09's if I'm lucky in my lovely spotty Team Oldie BMW or...
Mid 2:09's in the Team Oldie Escort but was .5 up on that before I blew it on the last stage  ::), so know I can break into the 08's & was far more consistent in Escort.

I'm not sure I'll sleep well tonight with this decision hanging over me  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 02, 2009, 12:02:10 AM +0100
Thats very good PR, never fell for it for a minute ;) Its high 9's in the Vette or 7/8's in the bimmer for me, not an easy one considering the Vette is ace.

I appreciate you are into the latter part of the season but would it be okay for me to join you (in my usual place at the back) for the last few races.

Of course you'll be welcome Laurie. Its first come first served but if you are worried about nicking a regulars spot, as the Champs come to a finale, you could wait a little before joining pre quali pracci session, but I'm sure there will be room. PnG news coming soon.

Hope tonight's races are a pointer for morrow. If so, it should be a blinder :) I would just add that if I'm, or anybody else, is brave/mad enough to take the Vette that it just doesn't stop well. You'll have to be very careful around it or the GT40. PATIENCE, the word of S7, will be needed in spades.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Mike Cook on April 02, 2009, 12:20:49 AM +0100
I don't think I have much choice but to take the BMW. Although, after consistently spinning off due to dropping into second gear way too early, way too often, I think I'll need to set the H shift to sequential for the evening, however, I will be keeping the lever on the right -- I did this for my first race at Österreichring and faired reasonably well.

Is it normal to change the position of the gear lever depending on whether one is driving a left-hand or right-hand car? Does this kind of behaviour mean I'm crazy? Answers on a postcard please :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 02, 2009, 04:03:32 AM +0100
Is it normal to change the position of the gear lever depending on whether one is driving a left-hand or right-hand car?
Perfectly normal behaviour, for crazy people  ;)

Although, after consistently spinning off due to dropping into second gear way too early, way too often,
Two suggestions you can do to your setup to minimise this,
1) Increase your coast diff, as you do the car will become more stable when your foot's not on the accelerator.
2) In the BMW, I had all my gears moved to the their highest points. So 1st gear became pretty much the old second. This meant all the gearing's were closer together, so the early shift down reaction was less violent.

Sadly, none of that helps me decide BMW or Escort  :-\ ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Blunder on April 02, 2009, 06:46:05 AM +0100
Am feeling the pressure!  ;)

Need to do well today as I am missing next weeks race!? :'( rats!

Stuck in loads of GT40 practice only to find out later it was gonna be slow!
Was still regrouping yesterday and changed car selection after every 5 laps!  :-\

Didn't like any of them but finally put in a 2.09.9 in the Vette as a one off so am gonna have to go with that!
No idea if the tyres or my talent will last the 40mins but I'm gonna give it a go!?  ;D

Quite looking forward to it now!

M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: dynosaur on April 02, 2009, 08:44:39 AM +0100
I´m not looking forward to this event, because I´m crap with all of the cars here. Still trying my best to be there to add to the numbers...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: pribeiro on April 02, 2009, 09:38:40 AM +0100
Down to 1.53 now... :w00t: ...opssss not the April the 1st anymore.... :ban:
-Escort: I believe it is the most neutral car here and could be the fast one in the right hands
 i will not drive it

-GT40: Can be a good surprise with the right setup (a mix of stiffenes and soft setup)
 i will not drive it

-Corvette: Another car that can win in the right hands (needs a similar setup as GT40)
 as soon as it be in front, holding the faster slow corners cars in the back, easy to pull
 away on those big straights.
 i will not drive it

-CSL: This car have people that hate it and some who love it.
 One of the most difficult to setup (IMHO). Slower than the Escort on the slowest sections
 of the track and slowest than GT40/Corvette on the fast ones.  :P
 However if we hit the right setup, can be fast enough...
 i will not drive it
 
  :shifty:

Alright, i'm kidding....you know what GTC-76 car i usualy use to drive when it is selectable

(http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dbimages/0366691001212011891.jpg)

 :wub:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: paulwbird on April 02, 2009, 10:57:27 AM +0100
I will be there tonight, am v e r y slow round here is a toss up between the escort and the beemer, I seem to have a constant stream of smoke coming off the tyres of the escort in corners (if I don't go for a ride across the sand) so doubt that the tyres will last the whole race so am tending towards the Beemer.  Hoping to be only lapped once :p but have a horrible feeling that it may be more than that as I'm lapping in the 2:14s or thereabouts. 

I don't know if it is me but I really find it difficult to throw these cars in to the corners a la GPL, i.e. in a 4 wheel drift, as soon as I do drive in this way I seem to get slower or crash. 

Cheers Diki


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 02, 2009, 11:03:35 AM +0100
I was saying on Team Speak last night PaulW, that this is definitely one of the hardest circuits we've done in GTL IMHO.
I reckon it has reduced grip levels (compared to some other tracks), a lot of the corners are off camber & there are few decent brake markers. That all adds up to a difficult lap for me. But very rewarding if you're keeping SBG in his Vette on his toes for lap after lap  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Steve Holmes on April 02, 2009, 11:23:31 AM +0100
I thought it was okay to learn this one, the hardest part for me is that kink on the start/finish straight, very fast and easy to flick too much and get a big tank slapper or not flick and understeer off in the Vette.

Since most people seem to be going Escort/Beemer, I shall plump for the Vette, watch out for my supertanker braking (as Ian pointed out) and so far I have topped out at almost three thousand miles an hour down the Mistral straight.  Watch out for the sonic boom if you're following me.

Probably shouldn't race with a 6am start for a long day down in London tomorrow, but having missed lots of races be a shame to miss this.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Minton on April 02, 2009, 05:51:47 PM +0100
Shame the model in the game dosnt look like that PR, look at them arches.. its a beast!!! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Mike Cook on April 02, 2009, 06:25:43 PM +0100
Perfectly normal behaviour, for crazy people  ;)

I get the feeling I might not be alone :-D

Although, after consistently spinning off due to dropping into second gear way too early, way too often,
Two suggestions you can do to your setup to minimise this,
1) Increase your coast diff, as you do the car will become more stable when your foot's not on the accelerator.
2) In the BMW, I had all my gears moved to the their highest points. So 1st gear became pretty much the old second. This meant all the gearing's were closer together, so the early shift down reaction was less violent.

I did consider changing the gearing, but doing this doesn't feel quite the right thing to do.

I'll certainly try adjusting the diff, hopefully this will help.

Hope you make the right choice Legzy! ;-)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Alex vV on April 02, 2009, 08:25:14 PM +0100
hmmmm.. game is full...

any change of enlarging field next time?

 :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Geoffers on April 02, 2009, 09:01:13 PM +0100
Just to say sorry guys for causing the first turn melee.

At this time I'm seriously considering not racing any more in Season 7, I just seem to cause accidents. So probably cya in Season 8.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 02, 2009, 09:14:20 PM +0100
Decided after further practice, to go for the more enjoyable driving of the Escort, then the pleasing aesthetics of the Oldie BMW.  ;D

Never managed to get tidy lap in qually. Best time was a 2:09.6, despite being .5 up on it in later laps.
Started about 13th on the grid & with some solid driving on my part, I worked myself up to 6th after 1.5 laps. I was in 6th for about 8 seconds, before I forgot to brake at the end of the long straight & flew off wide. Rejoined in about 15th & instantly was quicker then guys around me, made up a couple of places & was confident I could work back up the field some.
Did the long straight, made sure I broke a bit earlier this time & overcompensated. Caught the inside kerb & just failed to control it. My reactions/instincts were pathetic. I apologise to who ever it was who hit me (I think there were two hits) while I was out of control. Totally my fault & nothing you could have done to avoid me. Sorry. The result was my suspension was totalled & my car gave up as I tried to move my car in the sand.

I have yet again, failed to perform in GTL. I don't think I've had a race yet this season when I haven't had serious contact with another driver (be it my fault or theirs) & it's getting me down  :'(. When's the next P&G race ;) ;D?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Mike Cook on April 02, 2009, 09:37:57 PM +0100
Well that was frustrating! As soon as we hit qualy I was getting some real jerkyness everytime there was some gravel or tyre smoke - me thinks I need a better GFX card.

At this point I didn't really want to leave especially as it was a full grid -- I wanted to race dammit!

Anyway, I managed to do okay by qualifying 15th, with my first time in the 2:10's. My start was really clean (finally!) and managed to get into 8th, but I have to say this was really difficult considering how slow my computer was running. Of course, as soon as I started to get some tyre wear I couldn't keep it on the track and before you know it, I was in 19th place.

By this point I had some suspension damage and so had to slow down quite a bit in a couple of corners -- at least my computer wasn't jerky anymore  :-\

Apologies to Blunder (I think) in the Corvette, didn't realise how slow you had to go through the esses.

After a few more laps I finally decided to give up, before causing too much havoc with other drivers races.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: phspok on April 02, 2009, 09:43:26 PM +0100
Not a good race for me, my pace was rubbish, not sure why, I was one of the ones who smacked into you Legz
I was going nicely round the outside, but saw Bara looking like he was about to rejoin from the gravel, so gave him
some room in case, but that meant i couldn'y avoid you, bent my front suspenders, had bad understeer for the
rest of the race, but kept going in case people fell off, some did, then I started going off.
Limped to end,


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 02, 2009, 09:55:22 PM +0100
Still time to vote for this circuit............

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5976.0


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 02, 2009, 10:00:35 PM +0100
Results in and replay in normal slot.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 02, 2009, 10:03:27 PM +0100
hmmmm.. game is full...
any change of enlarging field next time?
 :(

Always sad to hear anyone missed out :'( I do believe that GTL gets unstable hosting above 26 but I will confirm that Alex. Maybe we will have to look at registering for next season, which at least is a nice position to be in.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: baracus250gt on April 02, 2009, 10:11:12 PM +0100
Talk about eyes on stalks! I think I tested myself a bit too much this time! Had a really dire qualifying. Just couldn't get the left bend that goes onto the long straight right at all. It only really clicked in lap 8 of the race so I was loosing a bag full of laptime every lap there.

It was a real fun race tho! Went from 17 to 8 on lap 1 somehow but then threw it into the gravel at the end of lap 2 I think, dropping right back to where i came from! Climbed back up again and managed to hook myself onto the train led by PR in P7 I think but I kept ballsing that kink up again once in a while and did an elastic band type affair for the rest of the lap. Started getting really close between the group and we started mingling and shuffling positions but the pressure got too much for me! Ran wide on the tightening right and... start again!

Lost my front spoiler on lap 16 but it didn't really slow me down too much which I guess shows how poor my driving was! Zero practice = way too many (stupid) errors / couldn't memorize the track well and too far back brake bias. Sorry if I scared anyone!

Great racing as always :)

    


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: LigelC on April 02, 2009, 10:33:23 PM +0100
I probably owe Alex an apology for taking up the last position for tonights race.  I waited until 8:15pm before joining to try and avoid what has happened.

Also sorry to hear so many didn't enjoy the race - personally I had a 'ball', fantastic fun at the back of the field thanks to all those who hung around for me  :laugh:  :laugh:  Only complaint I have is that everyone who dropped out seemed to be behind me - would much prefer it if they were in front as then I could pick up some positions  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Congratulations to the podium and thanks to everyone there,  Hope to join you next time if there is room.

Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Samb on April 02, 2009, 10:47:16 PM +0100
A really enjoyable race - particullaly the race long battle with Mr Oily and Ginsters. It's just a shame I messed up the start, otherwise I reckon I could have finished 2nd. I qualified, to my mind, and amazing 4th and saw the front row get away slowly so I went for the inside line between the two cars. Sadly Steve had the same idea and we bumped into each other, losing speed in the process. After that I was swarmed by cars and dropped a few places, just missing a collision right infront of me. By the end of the first lap, I was in 5th about to enjoy a titanic battle between me, Mr Oily and Ginsters.

The nimble Escort was more than a match for the Corvette round the corners and under braking but the damn thing kept blasting past us on the straight! It certainly kept the racing close  ;D. After a few laps, eventually, Ginsters ran wide into the gravel and the battle was down to me and Mr Oily. We enjoyed a hard fought but very fair battle with each other. Even when Mr Oily gave me the lightest of taps into the gravel, he slowed and waited for me. A big thank you although you really shouldn't have  :). Eventually he ran wide when battling with Ade a few car lengths ahead, so I battled with Ade, passed him and proceded to lock on to Steve in 2nd. Steve's tyres must have been shot at the end of the race as I was catching him at a rate of 2 seconds a lap. Sadly the race ended when I was about a second behind.

So overall, a bit of a missed opportunity but this was by far the most enjoyable GTL race I've had so far. At least I bagged my first podium of the season after the misery of the Nurburgring. It's taken me a while to get used to these cars after being so used to sliding about and 4 wheel drifting in GPL but I feel I'm beginning to get on top of things. See you all at the next one.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 02, 2009, 10:49:20 PM +0100
Brilliant fun that :)

Pretty decent quali but must admit I didn't panic as I knew the POWER might come in handy at start. Sure enough, Steve and I led by end of lap 1. Go team Vette ;D I thought I would help out my teamy for the night by holding up as many as I could after that. To be honest, Dan was way too fast and soon scooted past. However Sam, Oily and Ade didn't find it so easy. GTL nirvana for 10 or so laps as I held them up through corners when I could and a few of them took there chances when offered a pass, only to be mullered on the straight time after time. Suspect it was harder to follow that barge without clattering than to drive it, so hats off to you gents for some close but clean stuff. That said, I may report the two escort buddies who spread out and tried to block my path on straight ;) Shame I ruined the fun by looking at a backmarker and my mirrors and missing a ruddy corner but you were prolly glad to see the back of me by then.

Sorry to hear comments about start again. We all have a responsibility to do better in final two races and sure we will. Congrats to Dan, Steve and Sam.

 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Minton on April 03, 2009, 08:39:43 AM +0100
Quote
Just to say sorry guys for causing the first turn melee.

At this time I'm seriously considering not racing any more in Season 7, I just seem to cause accidents. So probably cya in Season 8.


I wouldnt worry about it too much Geoffers , dont stop racing coz of it .



Finally got into the 2.06's on qually on a lap which didnt feel that quick to be honest.
My  start was terrible could have done better in my Citreon Berlingo van and got swamped by 6 0r 7 cars,   Managed to get past Steve and SBG on lap 2 and started to pull away but was getting very low fps and went off which let Steve through.
Was blinded for a few laps by Steves smoke screen  :D  but managed to pull out a gap and bring it home for the win.  Respect to Steve for never giving up and hustling that Vette round with masses of understeer !  :o ;)

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: pribeiro on April 03, 2009, 10:52:26 AM +0100
Well...my #32 post wasn't wrong... :detective:

Geoffers, c'mon mate, we all had or can have a "black serie". I remember myself about one year ago,
i messed a couple of races aswell. You are a good and clean driver. Cheer up and come back here
for the last races.  :cowboy:

Qualified 8th, finished 8th  :P
For a while i managed to stick to the first 6 guys (after gaining a position), that was very fun.
Made a big mistake on the second right hander after the big straight going to the sand  :scared:
took 10 seconds to get out of there  :sleep1:
On lap 10 my front tires gone,  :helpsmilie: did a couple of minor mistakes which made me lost another place.
Chosed a stiff setup to the CSL, was nice to the fast corners but not so good on the slowest one and once more i have not the acceleration and top speed as most of you all.  :surrender:
And theres nothing to do with the gear box (some tracks the setup is obvious for all and these cars
don't have much to change, unless the Porsches). A bit frustrating undoubtadly!  :hammer:

Fantastic track  :yes:
Thanks for the 70's and 80's track layout choice SBG, excellent.

What a pace Dan, congratulations, well deserved win.
Well done to podium and to all finishers.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: BillThomas on April 03, 2009, 11:22:34 AM +0100
Not a good event for me I just couldn't handle the lack of grip.  I tried all the cars available and the least trouble was the Escort.  Qualifying was no better - 12 seconds down on the pace.  Made a reasonable start and got up to 18th I think due to people going off.  Then I had my first off at the right hander after the long straight.  Had a couple of battles with drivers experiencing the same problem, by lap 6 it felt like driving on hail stones.  After a number of offs I had a bad  one  on lap 7, damaging the suspension and was quite happy to retire.

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Blunder on April 03, 2009, 11:54:04 AM +0100
Errm, mixed feelings so not sure where to start!

Because I knew I couldn't make next weeks race, I was desperate to do well last night!
Qualified 14th in the lovely Vette! Never thought I'd say that !! Now a big fan!
Awesome start and was up to 4th in the first corner but unfortunately Geoffers' little problem took me out.
Carried on in next to last place and played catch up!
Got up to 11th but then stupidly had to stop for fuel!! and then accedentally fitted tyres too !  :'(

Couple of comments!

Mike Cook - Dont worry about the contact, I was slow through the esses!  :)

Geoffers - Appreciate the PM, frustrated at the time but will get over it! We've all done it and no doubt I will do it myself again!
As long as you learn with each incident then no one will complain. Don't give up buddy, expect to see you at the next 2 !!  ;)

M.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Geoffers on April 03, 2009, 11:57:25 AM +0100
Thanks for the words of encouragement Dan & PR. I was really p****d off with myself last night, as it was the third online race in a row I had taken someone out on the first lap & I am starting to get a complex about it. I've cheered up a bit this morning & as I have a couple of other GTL races before next week's event, I will see how they go before I make any descisions.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Alex vV on April 03, 2009, 12:17:50 PM +0100
hmmmm.. game is full...
any change of enlarging field next time?
 :(
Always sad to hear anyone missed out :'( I do believe that GTL gets unstable hosting above 26 but I will confirm that Alex. Maybe we will have to look at registering for next season, which at least is a nice position to be in.
Thanks sbg. Virtual Historic Racing seems to become quite popular.. ;)
Hope we won't have to resort to registering. Always like the open/clubmans feel so new drivers (like I was one year ago) are encouraged to take part.. perhaps PnG can handle a larger starting grid ?

I probably owe Alex an apology for taking up the last position for tonight's race.  I waited until 8:15pm before joining to try and avoid what has happened.
No apologies needed Ligel. You have as much 'right' on a grid position as I have and I am sure that you have taken up my usual role as a gentleman driver with glory  :)

Hope to see you en Dijon et Le Mans.

Au revoir!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: mr_oily on April 03, 2009, 01:59:39 PM +0100
First off - Geoffers, cheer up son - don't even think about it! As Martin says, happens to all of us...I've just come through a pretty hideous spell myself but it happens and you'd be missed on the grid so stop talking crazy.

Fantastic race, totally summed up why I do this each week - fast and furious racing in close quarters but with trust in the others not to try anything (too) nutty! Loads of position swapping and a good ol' handling vs. power battle with Ginsters (wasn't actually pleased to see back of ya at all as it goes!), Samb, Ade and more. A real shame I clipped you Sam (sorry bud!), didn't actually feel anything at all but i saw the dust cloud and realised it was probably me. Besides, was enjoying the racing and would have been a shame to cut it short!

Minton, I agree with Ross, you're obviously a machine with that qually pace - well done Steve, a brave one taking the Vette and grats Sam, well deserved.

Excellent drive from Mr. Spanner so also a handful of points in the Prodigy bag woohoo, Team Oldie this means war!





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Legzy on April 03, 2009, 02:25:47 PM +0100
Team Oldie this means war!

I saw that you Prodigy ladies closed the gap last night. As we Oldie's managed to score zero points, despite our whole squad turning up.
A more normal service will be resumed at Dijon. Three words mate:

Just bring it.  :gun_bandana:  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: paulwbird on April 03, 2009, 02:42:37 PM +0100
A most enjoyable race, and I didn't get lapped which was a real bonus.  Qualified in 18th or so so could only just see the starting lights, made a steady getaway, someone must have had a nitrous system fitted to their escort as a lime green projectile came hurtling past my Beemer.  Made good progress mostly by lapping consistently without falling off up to 13th.  Made a stupid mistake spinning in the twisty section but got back into my rhythm after this ending up in my best placing for a UKGTL race.  Was very pleased to get the race finished message though.

Congrats to all the other finishers and podium.

Diki


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 03, 2009, 06:11:31 PM +0100
Imagine a similar car choice around Crystal Palace  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5zdnGvT0c  :o

I need a 5ltr Camaro in my GTL/PnG life.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: spanner on April 03, 2009, 07:04:40 PM +0100
After getting really depressed with GTL this season i knew this race would brighten things up and it certainly did!

After another bad start i seem to end up where i started ;D and the first few laps were really busy with some close racing as everyone worked out the others driving patterns. Slowly realised my wider approach to that double righthander after the back straight meant people could dive down the inside as someone did but post of it was a blur but it was good racing with Phil, PRibero and Baracus and i think Mike Cook was in there.

Slowly towards the end i realised I was catching SBG and just wished it was an enduro as i thought it was on wednesday and even did some full fuel runs ::) Surprised by Oily telling me i have the 4th fastest lap in the race, I do like the underpowered BMW but blimey :o

Not sure i'll be back up there around Dijon as i hate the minis, but we do have our secret weapon >:D hey Tibs :shifty:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: pribeiro on April 03, 2009, 08:08:07 PM +0100
Imagine a similar car choice around Crystal Palace  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5zdnGvT0c  :o

I need a 5ltr Camaro in my GTL/PnG life.

Thank you for the link dear Sir. And you can have your Camaro  :D  http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=11835


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Steve Holmes on April 04, 2009, 10:01:26 AM +0100
Gutted when that clip finished part way through the race, was lapping that up, what racing!  Think we need that GTL Camaro...and fast.  :)

Paul Ricard was really enjoyable, love the fast bits, holding a big drift in 3rd and 4th gears in the heavy Vette, the slow twisties weren't such fun, as Dan noted, had to wait an eternity for the nose to bite.

For a moment I thought I might hold on, as Ian did a great job holding everyone back and I pulled a fair lead (cheers mate  ;)) but then reality intruded and I realised didn't matter how big a lead I got, Dan would still make it through and ignite his afterburner and zoom by.  Indeed he did, fantastic pace, and then fell off gifting me the lead again, several times, didn't realise it was stuttering, glad it didn't ruin the race.

Start was tight, thought I was going to rearend Dan, had to lift dramatically and then aim for the middle, I didn't even realise Samb went for the same gap, the Vette shrugged it off!  And ended up out front.  Then the tyre grip fell off a precipice around lap 15 and I struggled to keep it going, went off a few times and was just dead slow, saw my 12s gap to 3rd evaporate...was cursing the extra 2 laps that took it over 40 minutes....and was about to lose 2nd to Samb when I reached the line.....note to Ian, when we're gonna drive big tyre hungry V8s make sure the race laps don't exceed 40 mins...please.  ;D ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Steve Holmes on April 04, 2009, 10:39:42 AM +0100
Unofficial Lapchart (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/steveh/PaulRicard75GTL/)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Mike Cook on April 04, 2009, 10:46:30 AM +0100
Gutted when that clip finished part way through the race, was lapping that up, what racing!  Think we need that GTL Camaro...and fast.  :)

Steve, there is a part 2 for that race :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 7 - Paul Ricard - Apr 2
Post by: Steve Holmes on April 05, 2009, 10:28:41 AM +0100
Thanks Mike, wasn't really paying attention yesterday morning!  Brilliant race, love the David vs Goliath stuff, funny to see the Camaro make the same kind of over-driving error that we are all capable of and prone to when we lose a position and fight back.  ;D