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Title: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 23, 2009, 01:45:01 PM +0100
Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(25 mins)
Race:20:35(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GT2 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.5.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Silverstone ('Northampton') GP v1.0.0.2 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_silverstone))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=198;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Busi on April 23, 2009, 08:38:15 PM +0100
Should be able to do this one. Maybe in the C5 not sure though :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jimmie on April 23, 2009, 09:43:00 PM +0100
Should be able to do this one. Maybe in the C5 not sure though :)

If you mean the Chevy it ain't in GT1 or GT2 anymore ;) (the C6 is)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Busi on April 23, 2009, 11:56:49 PM +0100
 :oops: lol

dunno then will have to test some cars... thing is I will be there! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Joss on April 24, 2009, 11:07:17 AM +0100
Take the Marcos  ;D

(everybody tells me to!)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: purdie on April 24, 2009, 11:13:30 AM +0100
Should be able to do this one. Maybe in the C5 not sure though :)

Citroen C5? hehe ;)

yeah will be in the 997 RSR  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on April 27, 2009, 10:57:36 AM +0100
Can I join u guys?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 27, 2009, 11:03:11 AM +0100
Can I join u guys?

Of course!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on April 27, 2009, 11:11:42 AM +0100
Splendid :)

Aston's grip is phenomenal!

What's a good race pace lap time? Normal one, not alien induced.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on April 27, 2009, 11:15:47 AM +0100
I was doing 1:43's with race setup last week at the sprint event... SBG won with low 1:42's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jimmie on April 27, 2009, 03:29:06 PM +0100
Can I join u guys?

Hey Jure, nice to see ya :D


Got vacation now, so I'll make this race as well :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Joss on April 28, 2009, 01:04:11 AM +0100
I've not been writing many race reports here on UKGTR this season, mainly because I've written them for our team website :)
In case anybody cares, I update http://www.teamshark.org.uk/ (http://www.teamshark.org.uk/) after each race now. Every race from UES9 is on there.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Kerr on April 28, 2009, 01:11:59 AM +0100
Can people without Team Shark memberships see that page Freq?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Napo on April 28, 2009, 03:48:19 AM +0100
There's no weight penalty for changing cars, correct?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 28, 2009, 07:24:21 AM +0100
Can people without Team Shark memberships see that page Freq?

Yes.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 28, 2009, 07:24:54 AM +0100
There's no weight penalty for changing cars, correct?

Correct. A second and each subsequent change will attract a small points penalty for that round.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 28, 2009, 10:20:55 PM +0100
Seeing I've got Monday off, I should be able to join you gents for this. No idea what car to use as yet but it'll be a GT2 :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on April 28, 2009, 10:27:56 PM +0100
Seeing I've got Monday off, I should be able to join you gents for this. No idea what car to use as yet but it'll be a GT2 :)

Good luck beating MJ, he was on fire tonight! :ninja:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 29, 2009, 08:02:29 AM +0100
Seeing I've got Monday off, I should be able to join you gents for this. No idea what car to use as yet but it'll be a GT2 :)

Good luck beating MJ, he was on fire tonight! :ninja:

Pfft, you've got to set your aspirations higher than that Legzy ;) Did have a quick go in the Gallardo cause I don't see anyone using it, and I like it. As regards times, the sprint was run in dry conditions last night?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on April 29, 2009, 09:44:47 AM +0100
Seeing I've got Monday off, I should be able to join you gents for this. No idea what car to use as yet but it'll be a GT2 :)
Good luck beating MJ, he was on fire tonight! :ninja:
Pfft, you've got to set your aspirations higher than that Legzy ;) Did have a quick go in the Gallardo cause I don't see anyone using it, and I like it. As regards times, the sprint was run in dry conditions last night?
;D
Yeah was dry track last night, so most people hitting 48's / 49's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on April 29, 2009, 10:58:33 AM +0100
May I ask what does that "fuel correction factor" stand for?  ???

Am in an Aston atm (pondering about Lambo or 550 though).



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 29, 2009, 11:17:37 PM +0100
Nice to cya again Jure  :)

Yeah was dry track last night, so most people hitting 48's / 49's

The Lambo is very competitive then, which will be nice. I think its great fun to drive, all predictably oversteery, and I'm just wondering why no one uses it, or am I missing something :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on April 30, 2009, 12:09:11 AM +0100
The Lambo is very competitive then, which will be nice. I think its great fun to drive, all predictably oversteery, and I'm just wondering why no one uses it, or am I missing something :)
I'm sure a driver of your level will be just fine  :-X  ;).
Just didn't appeal to me like the F430/Panoz/BMW or even that dodgy 997  :o.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Napo on May 01, 2009, 06:48:25 PM +0100
Nice to cya again Jure  :)

Yeah was dry track last night, so most people hitting 48's / 49's

The Lambo is very competitive then, which will be nice. I think its great fun to drive, all predictably oversteery, and I'm just wondering why no one uses it, or am I missing something :)

I think the gallardo has a dead spot or something? Can't remember if it was Simon or Dave Gymer who was driving it and mentioned it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 01, 2009, 07:30:05 PM +0100
I think the gallardo has a dead spot or something? Can't remember if it was Simon or Dave Gymer who was driving it and mentioned it.

T'were me - definitely a dead spot in the revs.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on May 01, 2009, 08:21:54 PM +0100
I think the gallardo has a dead spot or something? Can't remember if it was Simon or Dave Gymer who was driving it and mentioned it.

T'were me - definitely a dead spot in the revs.
He's a clear second a lap quicker then me (with me in my usual F430), so I don't suppose it's troubling him to much  :alien: :taz:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on May 01, 2009, 09:04:43 PM +0100
I think the gallardo has a dead spot or something? Can't remember if it was Simon or Dave Gymer who was driving it and mentioned it.
T'were me - definitely a dead spot in the revs.

Is that the odd frog like sound it makes sometimes  ;D Us Alfa drivers just put up with little quibbles like that. Honestly, I didn't notice anything but I'll mention it if Legzy beats me. I'll mention it even more if I beat him ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: spanner on May 01, 2009, 09:09:17 PM +0100
I'll be switching back to GT1 for this as the Aston race last time ended prematurely around here.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ad1980 on May 02, 2009, 08:59:14 PM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 02, 2009, 10:18:13 PM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:

Welcome! (Another one to finish ahead of me no doubt! :laugh:)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ad1980 on May 02, 2009, 11:04:39 PM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:

Welcome! (Another one to finish ahead of me no doubt! :laugh:)

don't know bout that, runnin high 1:43's at mo ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Joss on May 03, 2009, 12:21:07 AM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:

Welcome! (Another one to finish ahead of me no doubt! :laugh:)

don't know bout that, runnin high 1:43's at mo ;)

Mate, that's good. The guys who won the spint were only a second a lap faster than you and most here have been sim racing for years. Also, props for practising. It's a pain when people turn up having not spent any time getting comfortable with the car and being way off the pace.

1:43 is a good pace and should see you involved with some battles. Couple of tips:

- Get the pit stop right. You can save so much time in the pit lane.
- If you get lapped, be predictable. Either hold your line or change your line with plenty of time in hand.
- Remember - cold brakes at T1!

Gd luck :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ad1980 on May 03, 2009, 09:40:02 AM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:

Welcome! (Another one to finish ahead of me no doubt! :laugh:)

don't know bout that, runnin high 1:43's at mo ;)

Mate, that's good. The guys who won the spint were only a second a lap faster than you and most here have been sim racing for years. Also, props for practising. It's a pain when people turn up having not spent any time getting comfortable with the car and being way off the pace.

1:43 is a good pace and should see you involved with some battles. Couple of tips:

- Get the pit stop right. You can save so much time in the pit lane.
- If you get lapped, be predictable. Either hold your line or change your line with plenty of time in hand.
- Remember - cold brakes at T1!

Gd luck :)

 thank you that took me 121laps to get it to that time, indeed i need to get my pitstop's right ,gonna get do more practice today just so like you say i don't lose to much time, still not sure wot car to use, 550 or c6-r, with both cars i'm runnin similer times :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Craske on May 03, 2009, 10:02:17 AM +0100
Take the C6, i am  ;D


p.s thanks for the setup ginsters  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: goldtop on May 03, 2009, 05:54:39 PM +0100
hi guy's, hope you all o.k , i'm new to racing online , i hope you don't mind if i join in, i've read all the rules and have been practicing long races, pit stops etc so i think i'm ready (bit nervous thou) :scared:

Welcome! (Another one to finish ahead of me no doubt! :laugh:)

don't know bout that, runnin high 1:43's at mo ;)

And here was me thinking I'll have someone to race with ::)

Welcome from a fellow noob :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ad1980 on May 03, 2009, 06:27:51 PM +0100


And here was me thinking I'll have someone to race with ::)

Welcome from a fellow noob :)

thank you, see you there and good luck to everyone ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Busi on May 03, 2009, 08:45:37 PM +0100
 :no: :'( :'( :'(

SO frustrating

really had practiced for this one, had managed a 1:40.3 in online quali in the Lambo, was looking fwd to try to battle for victory tonight

when I was gonna join, server was full :'( cant believe it


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Napo on May 03, 2009, 08:53:35 PM +0100
:no: :'( :'( :'(

SO frustrating

really had practiced for this one, had managed a 1:40.3 in online quali in the Lambo, was looking fwd to try to battle for victory tonight

when I was gonna join, server was full :'( cant believe it

unlucky m8. Good thing I decided not to join this race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Roadrunner on May 03, 2009, 08:55:54 PM +0100
Well...not a happy bunny...reasonable qualy...ran into Jure up at end of hanger strait, he slowed a little more than i thought an just caught the back of him...so my bad, caught up to Jure again, with a C6R and Syd...looks like they started bouncing off each other a little, anyhow, was along side one of em through woodcote, he came across, hit me once to often, so had a 360 right on exit of woodcote, barely had time to get a gear before GT2`s arrived an the inevitable happened, so sorry Dan M  >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mark J on May 03, 2009, 09:21:51 PM +0100
what a gutting way to go out of what was an absolutely excellent race in GT2. Got punted off by a GT1 car  >:(  right left rear sheared off and race over whilst 2nd in GT2  :'(

Bugger. To say i am mildly annoyed is an understatement. An hours worth of hard work battling Legzy and Purdie wasted.  :(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: lazlow on May 03, 2009, 09:30:32 PM +0100
Thats twice now in succession that I've taken people off in the race, once at Brno and now here :-[
I really need to concentrate more while driving...I feel like a complete cod  >:(
Sorry MJ


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: goldtop on May 03, 2009, 10:24:04 PM +0100
Really enjoyed that tonight, although I spent most of my time battling with the front end of the GT2s. Hope I didn't annoy you too much Ginsters ;D

Had a couple of lucky escapes, completing 2 laps while going backwards. Thankfully I managed not to collect anyone , but I'm sure it took a couple of people's attention  :o

There were a few nasty crashes in front of me, one on the last lap coming out of Abbey. Couldn't see who was involved but it looked like a sad end to the night for somebody. :(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ad1980 on May 03, 2009, 10:35:37 PM +0100
for a 1st race i loved it ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

i didn't think i did to bad finishing in 9th, really really enjoyed myself

and to the best off my knowledge i didn't cause any carnage

chuffed to bits :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on May 03, 2009, 10:37:10 PM +0100
That could have been so much more fun. No idea what happened to Dan, all I know is it wasn't his fault and ruined what could have been a great race. Gotta doff my hat to Dan for pulling over when I kinda hinted in chat. You were smoking terribly and it was impossible to follow you at all.

Gotta say that some of the GT1 driving was rather sketchy. Don't think anyone has a problem mixing it with GT1's (that was great fun Goldtop  :)) but not when it would be pass, crash and re-pass from those clearly overdriving. The ones doing the lapping were great :angel:

Suffered another ruddy PC lock up and massive trip session again and just glad I limped home after that. No idea if the Gallardo is too fast to be honest. I tried a few cars and was fastest in 430 initially, into 46's with little practice, so chose the Gallardo cause no else has and its fun. If its too fast next time out, I'll choose something else. Highly recommend it though :)

Congrats to the podiums and adam for a solid debut :) Sorry to Shark for messily letting you past late on but I was seeing all sorts of things thx to my graphics card and it didn't make it easy.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: nsfast on May 03, 2009, 10:43:23 PM +0100
Great race tonight and good way to complete my first year driving in the UKGTR league.  :jumpjoy:

In a packed grid I was really racing Mcfids, Craske, Syd Drake and Adam Overland tonight. I qualified in front due to a lucky lap..but once the race started it was clear that Mcfids had just a bit too much race speed for me today and quickly got past. Great drive Mcfids. Your going to take some catching now  :)

After Mcfids went into the distance it was between me and Craske. Craske went past when I ran wide with Jure 20 mins in. I managed to nick a bit of time back in the pits but once the second half settled down it was a fantastic chase to try to catch up with Craske who seemed to make very few mistakes. In the end we finished within 2 sec of each other. Nice one Craske.

The depth of quality on the grid just seems to get better and better. I finished 6th in my first race a year ago. A finish like that now seems very unlikely.

Congrats to the podiums and to Adam O on finishing his first race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: H@L9000 on May 03, 2009, 10:44:23 PM +0100
Amazing race! What a battle :sweatdrop:

I was lucky to get in the server after a CTD in practise 1. My audio driver kept giving me pop up messages which alt-tab'ed me back to desktop. After a few times I got a CTD. Hope no one went down with me  :-[ With headphones unplugged, I continued without problem, just getting the last place in the server at the time.

I guess my comments about shark fishing at the start put the Shark team into serious mode as I had no answer for their incredible pace.

Had a Titanic battle with TT and Gazza for almost the entire race (again  ;D). It was great fun. I laughed when I came out of the pit rite along side Gazza and TT. :D Nice one guys. The GT40 and the C6R are very well balanced against each other I think ;)

Luck was on my side tonight but I still hard to work really hard for 3rd. Thanks to all GT2s. Nice work out there tonight. I was perhaps a little pushy at times. I think Spanner may have gone wide after I passed him at turn 1. Sorry mate :(

Gazza's car had a small amount of lag. It seems to happen to him when a large number of cars are present. What could cause that? It made the race a bit more interesting :D

Well done podiums. See you all on Tuesday :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Craske on May 03, 2009, 10:48:41 PM +0100
WOW what a race, qualified in 13th and was worried that i would have bad luck for the race. found my way to 9th after all the carnage ahead of me, had some amazing scraps with nsfast and jure, seemed like i was racing one of them two for the whole race.
Well done to nsfast for the sheer amount of pressure he put me under in the final laps any more and i would have buckled i think.

Anyway really really pleased with 8th and congrats to the aliens on the podium ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 03, 2009, 10:49:04 PM +0100
Sorry to Shark for messily letting you past late on but I was seeing all sorts of things thx to my graphics card and it didn't make it easy.

Did you? Really didn't notice anything messy. All GT2s were good as normal letting me past. Was scared from time to time when people wanted me to go through at corners like bridge when I was actually happy to wait, but no incidents so thumbs up to everyone.

Well done to Joss on the win, he was mighty mighty fast (over a second faster than his nearest rival, which tonight was me). He was cruising in the race despite me driving flat out and we slowed right down for a formation finish at the end with our lights ablaze waving at our pit crews for a much needed 1-2 finish. 8)

The Lister was a dream tonight. It was so easy to drive at a circuit I really don't get on very well with, I just hope it will be that nice at Oschersleben next, but it's a completely different type of track so could be a very different story.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: picnic on May 03, 2009, 10:52:37 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090503%20U9UE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Craske on May 03, 2009, 10:58:02 PM +0100
Anyway really really pleased with 8th

Could have sworn i crossed the line before nsfast?... was i given a penalty?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: nsfast on May 03, 2009, 10:59:27 PM +0100
Anyway really really pleased with 8th

Could have sworn i crossed the line before nsfast?... was i given a penalty?

You did. Something seems to have gone wrong with your time for the last lap.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Craske on May 03, 2009, 11:02:46 PM +0100

You did. Something seems to have gone wrong with your time for the last lap.

Oh well still had a really good time, was fun at the end with you in my boot  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: picnic on May 03, 2009, 11:03:34 PM +0100
Seems you cut the track on the last lap and this has confused the import code as you got a larger than normal lap time. You can appeal to Gizmo's better nature, however both his import code and AutoSim Analyzer gave the same result.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Craske on May 03, 2009, 11:04:51 PM +0100
Seems you cut the track on the last lap and this has confused the import code as you got a larger than normal lap time. You can appeal to Gizmo's better nature, however both his import code and AutoSim Analyzer gave the same result.

oh o.k i never noticed. I'm sure its right tho.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 03, 2009, 11:25:08 PM +0100
On seeing the server was full, and knowing I was going to be a total backmarker having done no practice save for Tuesday night's somewhat abortive race, I dropped out to let others have a chance. I joined again with about 4 minutes of qually left when Picnic decided he'd rather do some iRacing and let me race instead. Did a couple of out laps to see what the car was like on cold tyres, and settled down to start the race from last, behind my recently-appointed official nemesis of JPS. :laugh:

I knew I would be tight on fuel if I took none at the pit stop, so I saved as much as possible on the pace lap and didn't worry too much about warming the tyres. After a nice steady start I was soon harrying JPS's Porsche, which was practising the common but ineffective discipline of "fast in, slow out" even more so than normal. :P :D

After a few laps he had a big moment in Club and I was past and streaking away after Matt Rowe's BMW, which was busy fighting Ade's Porka. At first I couldn't make any impression on him, but by halfway through the stint his tyres were obviously wilting and I spent the last few laps before my stops all over him like the proverbial bad suit. The GT1s were great during this period, sometimes sitting behind me all the way from Abbey to Woodcote whilst I worked to stay on his tail.

At half distance I was more confident that my fuel would last, so I ducked into the pits for fresh rubber only and came out on a clear track, which let me put in a bunch of good laps. Sure enough I jumped Matt by a big margin, but also Legzy, who I gather was not having a stellar ride.

Whilst this was going on the track temperature had started to rise a little and my pace was dropping off slightly. With 30 minutes to go I could see Legzy was really starting to close quickly. Not sure what happened but suddenly he dropped back a load and I had some breathing room, but I did myself no favours by getting distracted by a big gaggle of Ford GTs behind me and ran off at Priory, losing about 7 seconds, and once again Legzy was reeling me in hand over fist. Another two laps and he'd have had me for sure but thankfully the race ended and I'd made up for last weekend's disappointing performance at Brno by thrashing JPS. :laugh: :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mcfids on May 04, 2009, 12:10:37 AM +0100
An excellent 7th place for me tonight from a grid position of 12th and the honour of actually finishing on the same lap as Freq (of Nature)!! :)

It's great that this league has lots of mini battles with drivers of similar ability; my nemesis's are nsfast and craske. There is nothing between in lap times which makes it a lot of fun. Managed to sneak by nsfast on the 1st lap after he ran wide, but he was on my tail and keeping me honest for most of the race.

Only had one slight excursion when trying to negotiate a back marker - my fault there - otherwise it was just grinding out consistent laps. Btw, all the GT2 were top drawer when being lapped. 

Congrats to the podiums and it was good to see a full grid, although it was a shame that there were drivers that missed out.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 04, 2009, 01:21:50 AM +0100
Had no idea what to write about before thoroughly checking the replay. More to follow. Admins do read this please. Very peculiar problem, I have no idea what happened. ;D

Quali went very well... position wise, had no clean lap or traffic free one but was happy with grid spot albeit a bit disappointed knowing the potential (am still rusty so it felt good to be at relative front of the grid :) ).

Fell asleep at the start, then got a traditional nudge on lap one so I fell back to P12 or something, climbed back to 10th, then it all went very bisare @ 2047 s of the replay, when I fell back from 12th to 21st (in an instant  ??? , was still 12th). My position changed later on without making any passes at all - as in on clean track position changed. In reality still running 12th the whole time all the way to the pits. Lap 17 states I did a 3:41.698 lap time. Weird.

Raced on with no idea what's going on but had a hunch (pits came and went) I'm in 10 th or so. Which I was. Server thought otherwise so I was in constant danger of being blackflagged while actually racing for position (when I made the below passes).

Made "unlapping myself" (or so the game thought) passes on nsfast (3230s of the replay for 9th) and Craske at 4073s for 8th.

Later on Freq caught me, I let him by, then he immediately made a kack @T1 (his last lap I believe, for a moment I thought race is over, lol) so I unlapped myself and finished on same lap. For real, server probably considered I went from +1 to +2 and then back to +1 lap down.  ;D ::)





I love Silverstone. Apart for the nudge (which was a no biggie, racing accident, I was a bit slow on apex to begin with so no wonder it happened) problem and 6 positions loss on the first lap I had a great race, lots of action not to mention plenty of additional food for thoughts whilst racing.  8) 

Was a bit frustrating following 6 cars knowing and seeing how much better race pace I had (was aiming for 6th or so  ;) ) and was really enjoying throwing GT around through last sector. Loved it even, made 3 passes for position in that left hander that comes after right hander under the bridge. 8)

It was a good challenge, my last race was on the 9th of March 2008. Tarzan happy. Thanks for racing guys and congrats to winners, was a blast. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Truetom on May 04, 2009, 07:46:06 AM +0100
Welcome back, Jure.  :)

Was tempted to take Marcos for this event as I'm getting bored with the Ford. Can't get it to reach the limit. Marcos fascinates me but despite it's undisputable power I get laptimes at least 1 sec slower than with other GT1s. Might still take it, just for fun. It's engine sound is thrilling as well as trying to enter a corner.  ;D

Race was so, so. As Gazza and H@l said we were together for the whole race, so this part was great. Tyre wear was huge, so I pitted 5 minutes before my planned strategic point. Was fumbling the keys to be fast, promptly forgetting to set more fuel then it was set.  ::)  Result was I got in front Gazza and H@l but had to shortshift for the whole second stint which resulted in losing two positions. Tried to be smooth but had a wobbly go through Becketts.  :-\  Even so I wasn't sure I'll get to the end, Jose was catching me (for the second time :P ) and in the end I finished with 0,6 litres of fuel.  :sweatdrop:

Too bad for MJ, I must say. He competes for UE GT2 pody and would be in much better position than he is now.  :(  I saw many reports with "sorry" in it - let's be careful, eh?  :-\

Gazza - your car was warping a bit, yes. Same as in LS. Was hard to judge where you were and when to have a go. In LS at Silverstone there were only 20 drivers so full server shouldn't be the cause of it. Hope it gets fixed.  :)   

All in all it's nice to see a full server again.  8)   Dave - an idea: you could disguise one of the test races as a Championshi race to get any results.  :ninja:     

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: spanner on May 04, 2009, 09:52:02 AM +0100
Well i was going to go with the Aston but it felt completely different from the sprint race and felt awful, can't believe how nice it felt 2weeks ago in the sprint :( So decided i'd go back to the only car i feel i can drive, the GT2 Porsche.

Wow, what a packed field loads more GT1's than normal it felt, must have been the biggest grid we've had as i surprised to see I was only in 22nd. Bit of a quiet race in the first half with Legzy and MJ speeding off in front and Blunder slowly dropping back but felt good as i was running with a full tank and only needed to top it up a bit when stopping. Decided to stop with about 25mins left and put on med/softs (started with hard/med) knowing i could push it a bit more on the new tyres and low fuel, however i think i spent too long messing around with the pitboard as i came out about 9 secs behind Blunder and got distracted trying to work out how he'd done it!

Quickly though managed to catch him up, but all of a sudden a load of GT1's came through which ruined any racing as i was able to go past as he let them through then suddenly found myself only 7secs behind Purdie ??? but couldnt gain on him. I'm finding you cant let off your guard once with the porkas as they will bite back and i'd had a few moments already but on the last lap the back end came round after hitting the inside kurb at Stowe allowing Blunder through but i couldnt catch him on the half lap left.  :(

Good race guys, couldnt let off for a sec throughout.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: spanner on May 04, 2009, 10:22:40 AM +0100
Amazing race! What a battle :sweatdrop:
I think Spanner may have gone wide after I passed him at turn 1. Sorry mate :(

It was intentional, was trying to let you and the others behind you through quickly :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mark J on May 04, 2009, 10:43:28 AM +0100
i woke up this morning still absolutely gutted  :(

It was cracking championship battle up front (apart from speedy ginsters), with me, Legzy and Purds all going at it hammer and tongs and i think about 3 or 4 of the top 5 are also in the top in the championship race. I had chased Legzy bl*ody hard for about 45 minutes with less than a second between us for lap after lap  :fencing: Eventually he cracked under the sustained pressure and ran slightly wide out of becketts, allowing me to steam past with my momentum from that classic corner sequence.
I then set about closing down Purds in 2nd place, whittling his 5 sec lead down to about 3.5 then he fell off at becketts/chapel and i forged ahead in 2nd place GT2 though with ginsters a healthy 11 sec lead up front. It was shaping up to be corker of an enduro fight with the 3 championship rivals all running in order on track and only a couple of secs between us. It would have gone right to the flag this one.  8)

Alas after letting a couple of lapping GT1s past nicely down Hanger straight and making my turn into Stowe, i received a massive smack in the backside that sent me hurtling backwards into the barriers and tore off my right rear and took the rear wing off. I sat there in stunned disbelief and couldnt even get the car moving out of the gravel/barrier. Race over  :'(  Another GT1 car had either left his braking far too late or attempted some kamikaze move on me, not sure which but it should not have bl*ody happened on a track this wide and with a championship at stake.  >:(

I got an apology from the guilty party, and thanks for that, but it doesnt help when it cost me a podium slot here and probably my championship hopes now with only two remaining rounds. What a crap way to go out the champ running, i think it would have gone to the final round of the series with 5 of us close on points up top.  :(

Great track and great racing  8)....while it lasted.  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: purdie on May 04, 2009, 10:45:50 AM +0100
Well............ funny ole' race  :P and lady luck was on my side and miles away from Dan and MJ

After comparing notes and doing a bit of testing with MJ over the last few weeks I thought I would have a good setup. It was midway between my old setup and Jonzo's and felt good initially but wasn't  :-\

Suprised my self with 3rd in class in quali after an impressive performance by SbG, flying in the lambo  ;) Usual suspects in the top 5  ;D

Early stages of the race were the most interesting, with the slower GT1s slowing down the GT2s. Have to echo Ginsters....

Gotta say that some of the GT1 driving was rather sketchy. Don't think anyone has a problem mixing it with GT1's (that was great fun Goldtop  :)) but not when it would be pass, crash and re-pass from those clearly overdriving. The ones doing the lapping were great :angel:

Summed it up perfectly! Wasted a lot of time with slower GT1s being slower in the corners and powering away down the straights   :-X

Was driving hard in 3rd just to keep Dan and SbG in sight, and then sitting on the apex of Woodcote was a Saleen from a 5-car GT1 pile-up and Dan M was the undeserved victim (and so were Roadrunner and Jimmie lol! )  :-\ while he was threatening for the lead. Running 2nd I made a mistake with a BIG sideways moment (ome of three! :D lol) and MJ went past.

I was driving hard to hang onto MJ and the gap never closed and then he got taken out  ::).... so they were all dropping like flies and I ended up gaining 2nd in class mainly through attrition. I believe I would have been lucky to get a podium today  :o especially if Legzy had a smoother race!

It was tough today on tyres as softs went off too quickly and I was too slow on hards. So i ran a boring strategy on Meds and pitted halfway for meds again and 65 litres of fuel. Meds ran well for half of the stint and then over-heating badly for the 2nd half....

Grats to Ginsters and FreQ for dominant performances!!!!!!  You get a taz as a prize  ;)  :taz:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: phspok on May 04, 2009, 12:26:03 PM +0100
Couldn't decide whether to come last of the GT1's or 2s decided to have some fun in the Beemer, still have not
really worked out why I can be fairly competitive for an earthling in GTL and P&G most of the time
yet I am 2 or 3 secs off the sort of pace I should be doing in GTR2 based on other people's times
Maybe part of it is that I have limited praccy time, and tend to take a car I can drive easily rather
than something faster and more risky (to others as well as me)

ANyroadup, had some good fun dicing with Ade 'till he fell off, next I remember was Ade retired in the pits
had not seen impact with a wall? dave was as he said hounding me nicely, mostly he could keep station
and on heavier fuel that was  good driving, I have not got the hang of pit stops I had preset the fuel
in the setup, and apart from a quick check I just hit return, but still sat there for over a minute.

Had a couple of heart in mouth moments with lapping GT1s, mostly went easy, someone would make it
obvious they were going to come past on one side or the other, so I just gave as much room as poss and let them
through, had a couple of moments with people who were either unsure of me, or themselves, where I had
to go on the grass or up the inside kerb to let them through, possibly they were just happy to wait
but I just wanted them past and out of the way. Someone changed their mind which side to pass on over
the start finish ( I haven't watched replay) and as I had started to make room to let him through, changing
sides was a bad idea and I had a brief view of the car going on the grass, hopefully was only a bit of time
that was lost?

On that score. I got knocked off the track once and crossed the start/finish sliding along the wall at Thruxton
and the game didn't register that lap, as the line does not seem to go right across the track.

Also for the 1st few I was getting blue flags mostly start/finish, and there was no one behind, certainly
no one wanting to lap. Seems like the game got confused with dropped data perhaps?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Simon Gymer on May 04, 2009, 12:39:21 PM +0100
Also for the 1st few I was getting blue flags mostly start/finish, and there was no one behind, certainly
no one wanting to lap. Seems like the game got confused with dropped data perhaps?

This is a common problem which we all get from time to time. Just some minor bug which you have to ignore. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Gazza49er on May 04, 2009, 12:48:18 PM +0100
That was pretty intense last night,  me H@L and TT were together the whole race connected by a bit of string lol, Jose was in the mix too. Made a few mistakes which let them few but then they would do the same. Gotta get my pitstops sorted aswell.

Bit worried about this slight warping i seem to be getting the last few races, must be bad for the drivers around me and i dont want to spoil their races. Any ideas on what i can do to solve this?? I have nothing running in the background as i restart my pc with all processes down to minimum, my connection was ok as i checked before the race, was getting about 5-6 meg speed. Any help would be appreciated.

Grats to Freq, Simon & H@l

also GT2 podium.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mark J on May 04, 2009, 01:29:41 PM +0100
just checked the table, thats it, i am out of the running  :(  I would need to win both last rounds and hope that purds and Legz scored none and we all know that aint gonna happen.

Damn it. This DNF and getting locked out at Spa (where i won the sprint) due to one show charlies, has done for my aspirations of lifting the coveted drivers trophy. But the most gutting thing is not being able to fight Andy, Legz and Blunder right to the wire  :'(

Only yours to lose now Legz...no pressure  ;) Andy will have to fly the Porsche flag against your Fezza  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: H@L9000 on May 04, 2009, 03:55:30 PM +0100
Bit worried about this slight warping i seem to be getting the last few races,

I could see that your ping was fine for the race. 125 - 155. Same as I get from everyone else. The warping was only slight and only made any difference when very close. Not like the usual 'disappearing and reappearing on the track' thing.

Only thing I can think of is a virus checker issue or your router is not configured correctly. Some virus checkers still have something running even when you seem to have killed all background apps.

You said the other day that you had reconfigured the router using the configuration wizard. Maybe some security thing is set too high.

Any ideas anyone?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 04, 2009, 05:35:16 PM +0100
Bit worried about this slight warping i seem to be getting the last few races,

I could see that your ping was fine for the race. 125 - 155. Same as I get from everyone else. The warping was only slight and only made any difference when very close. Not like the usual 'disappearing and reappearing on the track' thing.

Only thing I can think of is a virus checker issue or your router is not configured correctly. Some virus checkers still have something running even when you seem to have killed all background apps.

You said the other day that you had reconfigured the router using the configuration wizard. Maybe some security thing is set too high.

Any ideas anyone?

How strong's the PC? If problems only occur while in traffic it could be game settings are just a tad over optimal. Setting gfx down a bit should fix it.

Personally I saw 3 cars 'disappearing and reappearing on the track' (2 corvettes and one ford GT) + two more warping a bit (blue fezza and a porker).

Interestingly enough most if not all of it happened in and around T1. Perhaps game FPS are at the lowest right there and that's where certain PC's can't cope with workload, hence microfreezes and consecutive packet loss?

Anyway, spring is here - lots of pollen and stuff in the air so clean up your PC's fans and it should be better by default (logic behind it being "no overheating no microfreezes at max workload".  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Gazza49er on May 04, 2009, 05:35:34 PM +0100
I noticed on the replay that my car is sunk into the track  ??? something weird is going on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Truetom on May 04, 2009, 06:55:48 PM +0100
Jure - you mean, if Gazza's settings are a bit high, it would affect both mine and H@l's PC so we (and maybe others) would see his car warp a bit?
Or do you mean for me and H@l to tune down settings?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mark J on May 04, 2009, 07:22:42 PM +0100
i saw gazzas car warping at the sprint and last night. Its not the big forward-rear light warps but the car darts back and forth about half a car length constantly.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 04, 2009, 07:40:01 PM +0100
Jure - you mean, if Gazza's settings are a bit high, it would affect both mine and H@l's PC so we (and maybe others) would see his car warp a bit?
Or do you mean for me and H@l to tune down settings?

It has nothing to do with other (your) computers, they simply draw what were "told" to show. Or not show.  ;D

When (and if, not determined that's the precise cause of it but I suspect it to be since I saw same effect with other cars in T1 and that's where FPS are extremely low, I went out and check FPS throughout the lap... yup, T1, by far the heaviest workload) Gazza's PC microfreezes (stutters) a bit it doesn't send out all data packets or they are, rarely but happens, sent out in wrong order. We had similar issues flying online, forgot about technical stuff though. Something to do with front bus width or smthn, probably too many graphic data trying to go through while LAN doesn't get all the bandwidth it needs. Or something.  ;D

Personally I never go for "eye candy" graphic settings for the exactly the same reason - smooth gameplay is crucial and I'm talking at least 45fps at all times. I am playing with "refresh rate synch on" so it's locked at max 75FPS refresh rate (monitor related, could be higher or lower depending on your LCD), but and that's crucial, minimum FPS doesn't go as low as it would go without refresh rate lock. Think of it this way: your gfx card calculates 200FPS in vain, cause your monitor is only capable of showing 75FPS. And when your gfx card hits extremely high workload it's still busy trying to do max FPS instead of "never above 75FPS". Simply put it has more time to cope with "high workload ahead" cause it's not busy with so many work demands "right here and now" in the first place.

Plus you get rid of picture tearing. Try it with refresh lock on, u'll see what I mean. That's why I giggle every time I read about "my gfx is doing 250FPS, hooray!!!"  Yeah, so it's doing work for nothing... and?

Monitor's the bottle neck by default, not to mention your eyes on 25FPS to begin with.  ;D So use refresh lock, better for your eyes as well. :) It's important to keep the car on the track and your eyesight in top condition. ;)


Microfreezes are also most annoying in flying sims, imagine what happens if you're flying very close formation or are very close on someone's six o'clock then plane in front stops in the air/moves position a bit.. Whammo.  ;D
People were actually exploiting it using "printscreen" button, pressing it freezes your PC just a bit to send out wrong data (or none of it) and target in your sights started to jump up and down. Or at least it did 5 years ago, perhaps modern rigs are capable of coping with it.

My suggestion would be to use simple wheels in game gfx settings, bit less shading etc. All you want to know is where to turn in the corner anyway, one tends not to notice reflections at 150mph anyway.  ;D

As per sunk car - noticed the same thing with nsfast's car in last night's replay. I believe it's quite common, seen it plenty of times (on replays, never in game itself). Probably just bad replay data or smthn.  ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Gazza49er on May 04, 2009, 08:08:38 PM +0100
Thanks Jure but i dont have graphics high at all, everything medium and shadows off for racing online. My framerates are usually between 70 and 100. I dont have anything fancy on when online racing so im not sure whats wrong.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Truetom on May 04, 2009, 08:11:53 PM +0100
Yeah, I use refresh lock on 60 FPS - my monitor max, so... Just to compare - I tried it the other way and it showed 180+ FPS. Useless.  :) So I use refresh lock and FPS are rock steady on 60.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 04, 2009, 08:33:16 PM +0100
Thanks Jure but i dont have graphics high at all, everything medium and shadows off for racing online. My framerates are usually between 70 and 100. I dont have anything fancy on when online racing so im not sure whats wrong.

Insufficient data, does not compute.   :D

I gather it started recently, right? What's the last thing u did PC-wise? Any upgrades? Software updates? New network driver? New firewall software or smthn? Is router overheating?

Welcome to the long and sometimes painful road of deduction, dear Mr.Watson.  ;D

Try locking refresh rate first, then move from there.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Gazza49er on May 04, 2009, 08:44:01 PM +0100
Cant think of anything ive upgraded recently.....

Where is this refresh lock thing?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: H@L9000 on May 04, 2009, 08:53:24 PM +0100
Where is this refresh lock thing?

GFX card profile options. (Nvidia/ATI control panel thingy).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 04, 2009, 08:55:59 PM +0100
graphic card settings (catalyst control system for ATI, whatever for nvidia)-->

3D options
"wait for vertical refresh" should be set to "always on"


which gfx u have?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Gazza49er on May 04, 2009, 09:06:37 PM +0100
nvidea 9600GT, think ive found it, called vertical sync  for nvidea. Will give this a go.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: H@L9000 on May 04, 2009, 09:22:14 PM +0100
That is a different option to the one that we are talking about (i think).

I am not sure of the exact options for the Nvidia control panel. Sorry :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Joss on May 04, 2009, 10:06:18 PM +0100
Later on Freq caught me, I let him by, then he immediately made a kack @T1 (his last lap I believe, for a moment I thought race is over, lol) so I unlapped myself and finished on same lap. For real, server probably considered I went from +1 to +2 and then back to +1 lap down.  ;D ::)

Sorry if I confused Jure. Me and Simon wanted to do a photo finish for our site report (www.teamshark.org.uk) and I had to lose 20 seconds on the last lap. So I tried to give you as much space as I could.

In any case. Congrats podiums  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Napo on May 04, 2009, 10:09:37 PM +0100
That is a different option to the one that we are talking about (i think).

I am not sure of the exact options for the Nvidia control panel. Sorry :(

Vertical sync locks the frames per second to your refresh rate. so if that is 60hz, you will get 60fps.
If that is what you're looking for, no need to do that in nvidia or ati control panel. you can do it in the the GTR2config which is in your gtr2 folder. Now if that is not what you're trying to do, ignore this comment.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: H@L9000 on May 04, 2009, 10:14:11 PM +0100
Vertical sync locks the frames per second to your refresh rate. so if that is 60hz, you will get 60fps.

Yep. Listen to Napo, not me. I am wrong (not the first time). Sorry for my confusing post. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Legzy on May 05, 2009, 12:12:27 AM +0100
Only yours to lose now Legz...no pressure  ;) Andy will have to fly the Porsche flag against your Fezza  :P
That was true before last night race (when I had a nine point lead) but sadly that boat has sadly now sailed I fear (down to just a two point lead). But if Martin (well done on your finish BTW) & myself can get one more decent result between us, we should lift the GT2 team trophy  8)


Got on the server an hour before the race & somehow managed to knock more then 1 sec off my PB. "Nice" I thought ;D & that was putting me comfortably (about 3 tenths ;)) ahead of Purdie's lap times.

Qually I set a decent time, but half a sec down on what I'd done just ten mins earlier, but very happy that I'd have my nose in-front of MJ on the grid, even if normality had returned & yet again I was as expected back behind Purdie. We GT2's were also graced today by the presence of Minton & SBG, so a podium finish was most certainly not on the cards.

Started well, kept Purdie honest as SBG & Minton disappeared amongst the GT1 back markers. I'd even say I was comfortable for the 1st three laps, as MJ warmed up. But then we had about 15 laps where he wouldn't leave me alone. Anyone would think he was trying to get past ::). Seriously, the biggest bap between MJ & me for 15 laps was 0.8 secs, but the norm was much closer. There were a couple of bits where I could eek out the gap, then the rest of the track was MJ's. Once he was putting on the pressure, Purdie pulled away & I remember announcing on TS that I'd gone to full defence :o :P

MJ, I might regret typing this... but it's always a pleasure to have you following me. I realise that could sound like I'm taking the salmon, but what I mean is... I have 100% confidence that you'll be assertive but both fair & patient, but most importantly you're not going to hoof me off by accident. So a massive thanks for the fight, it really was great stuff & when you got past, you immediately started to make a gap & I couldn't stick with you. I was gutted to hear on TS from my team mate that he'd just had a collision with you. Though not as disappointed as him (or yourself I'm sure) as he removed himself from the race immediately. I don't know if it will be any consolation, if I point out 'I was still going to beat you tonight anyway'  ;) ;D.

The race went on, Minton had dropped out, SBG was miles up the track & Purdie was just in front after a couple of mistakes on his part. It's now lap 24, I start the back straight, I press my pit request button, my pit crew tells me over the radio "pit in at the end of this lap", I complete the lap & pit... only to find my mechanics working on Ginsters car! :o :o (how does that happen ???) I tuck my self in behind him as best I can, hoping he's not got long to go, it took ages (the lapchart shows, his was one of the slowest pit stops by anyone ::)), while I wait, Gazza clobbers be from behind which means I now have damage to repair on my car too ::). Finally I get out the pits to find I've got to serve a stop/go for pit lane speeding. >:(

I came out the pits for the 2nd time, 31 secs behind Dave with 16 laps to go. With 5 laps to go I had that gap down to 2.5 secs. Then a 'gaggle' of GT1 lappers caught me, they all got past fine except for the last one, I tried to get out the way, ran wide onto the grass & he followed me, hitting my rear end & sending me into a spin. I always think it's nice when people wait  ::) :nono:. The gap to Dave was back to 12 secs & despite doing my best, I had no chance. Finished 2.5 secs behind in what was a good chase.

I'm bitterly disappointed for two reasons about that race:
1) I robbed myself by not practising where the pit entry line was.
2) Without that & having to wait for SBG in my garage (for 51 secs), I'd have picked up another podium & some good points for my tally .

I guess it just wasn't meant to be last night. :surrender:

I look forward to the race in a fortnight, I look forward to a race like this.... but with some lady luck on my side  :D




Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on May 05, 2009, 07:25:14 AM +0100
I press my pit request button, my pit crew tells me over the radio "pit in at the end of this lap", I complete the lap & pit... only to find my mechanics working on Ginsters car! :o :o (how does that happen ???)

Conventional wisdom says Ginsters pitted without a confirmed request. But only he will know that.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Blunder on May 05, 2009, 08:07:17 AM +0100
Lucked a 3rd in class!! excellent!
Was slightly off pace, no practice! :)
Thanks to Legzy for great race strategy, Spanner for kindly pulling his wheel off his desk on the last lap to give me a undeserved position!

Have to admit to not being impressed by the GT1 guys.
No incident or individual particularly but the general feel of it is 'this is a GT1 race' the GT2's are an also ran and are treated that way.
so many times great race battles in GT2 are ruined by passing GT1's!
Works both ways I guess!  :-\ Just the nature of the beast!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Jure on May 05, 2009, 08:56:44 AM +0100
Have to admit to not being impressed by the GT1 guys.
No incident or individual particularly but the general feel of it is 'this is a GT1 race' the GT2's are an also ran and are treated that way.
so many times great race battles in GT2 are ruined by passing GT1's!
Works both ways I guess!  :-\ Just the nature of the beast!  ;)

Stay on the racing line.

I've seen problems (and encountered them myself) practically every time GT2 driver tried to be over-polite. Combine it with over-cautious GT1 driver and you have a recipe for disaster, both drivers trying to do the oposite of what's logical and, more importantly, safe.

Or vice versa, two or more GT2s stubbornly racing on without checking the mirrors well enough. I don't know for other GT1 drivers but if I see two or more slower cars racing I make it a principle to pass them all at the same time in order not to spoil their fun. Most incidents in traffic are caused in situtations where cars in either class are involved in racing, be it 2 or more GT2s racing and not noticing or even slightly ignoring single GT1 behind them ("I worked for 7 laps to catch the guy in front of me and I'm not giving away those seven tenths of a second just like that") or the oposite, more GT1s racing - that's where you should be extra cautious since it's a safe bet that no.2 and no.3 GT1 behind you will try to go by at the same time no.1 GT1 in that particular group does.

We can be patient, trust me. :) I had at least 3 contacts with GT2 cars, twice with the same bimmer and once with a porker - all of them occured due to "OK, you obviously don't intend to let me by now.... no problem, I'll wait... oh, you're flashing me by while going through the corner... and changing line....right, let's try... no, no, no, don't change the line again" and wham...  :-\

Thing is if slower car does something like that GT1 driver is forced to react in an instant and that's not always good or prudent but it will happen if you invite the guy behind to go by at the wrong time and place. Add another GT1 class car right behind him and he'll do it even faster, fearing "if I don't take this invite and pass backmarker the guy right behind most certainly will..."

Truth be told I did observe a bit of overambitious gulping of traffic in "2nd group of GT1s", i.e. group I was in, that'd be cars in 7th to 12th place or so. We raced each other in a very similar fashion too but that's logical, the lower you go on the grid the less experienced the drivers are plus they're on less stable cars due to crapier setups compared to frontrunners. 

Still - theory of chaos implemented in practice via full grid experiment is always fun.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: purdie on May 05, 2009, 09:02:57 AM +0100
It will be down to the wire MJ and Legzy and nothing can be written off!  ::)

I hate Oschersleben and think as an enduro track it will be very tight but I do like Donington!  :P

Just as a sidenote: I read a post by Dave recently about not having the virtual wheel on. I decided to turn it off for this race and have to admit I prefer it on :). The car just feels too empty lol  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Mcfids on May 05, 2009, 09:36:04 AM +0100
It's now lap 24, I start the back straight, I press my pit request button, my pit crew tells me over the radio "pit in at the end of this lap", I complete the lap & pit... only to find my mechanics working on Ginsters car! :o :o (how does that happen ???)

My pit crew actually refused my 1st attempt at a pit stop request due to another car in my (our) pit space. I tried again a half a lap later and it was accepted. First time I've encountered that radio message - just shows how full the server was.

Does anyone know how GTR2 assigns garages and pit spaces when the drivers exceed capacity?

 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Truetom on May 05, 2009, 09:50:51 AM +0100
At the start of Q2 get into the car and look who's in the garages near you. As far as I know it's the same order in race and you have more chance to avoid this situation if you know who the drivers are and where on the track are they at the moment you want to pit.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on May 05, 2009, 05:14:57 PM +0100
I press my pit request button, my pit crew tells me over the radio "pit in at the end of this lap", I complete the lap & pit... only to find my mechanics working on Ginsters car! :o :o (how does that happen ???)
Conventional wisdom says Ginsters pitted without a confirmed request. But only he will know that.

That could well have been the case  :'( I was iffing and amming about timing of stop when a GT1 (they are responsible for the credit crunch and global warming you know ;)) in front got it all wrong in final turn so I rather dived in, rather belatedly and frantically pressing my pit request button. That would explain why my stop was even slower than normal and sorry it scuppered your race as well. I'll try to repeat the feat in front of Purds next time out to balance it out :) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Upper Endurance (GT1/GT2) - Silverstone (GP 2000 ) - May 3
Post by: Roadrunner on May 05, 2009, 06:24:40 PM +0100
Do think looking back its worth getting some yellow flag rule sorted out, even if it just covers lots of cars off together or in dangerous places and everyone has to slow down for it, maybe someone saying yellow if theres one of the above, was only the GTR2 anti-gravity system that saved a good 4-5 cars from gettin into trouble with my/Dan M`s crash