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UKGPL Season 17 - Division 1 - Race 5 - 67 mod - Rouen

South to the Sun

 A much more compact and bijou circuit, with luckily only just enough corners to bring us around a complete lap. The league positions are showing that consistancy is yielding more points than blinding speed at the moment...but will that continue??


 
Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Race password: tba (#post_event_password)

Server ukgpl 1It looks like "old faithful" is still not working so be aware that we may well switch to UKGPL-5 or 6 for the race and possibly to IGOR . I will make sure details are posted as soon as we know or at the very least make repeated announcements in chat prior to race...UPDATE......    race will now be on IGOR  and server will be UKGPL_5
IP address....... tba
Race date = 10-05-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Rouen 67
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length =  (  25  laps)

   Single Stop Time   Double Stop Time
BRM   No Stop                    No Stop
Cooper   Stop and Go      Too Short
Honda   Stop and Go      Too Short
Brabham        17                   Too Short
Ferrari        26                   Too Short
Eagle        29                   Too Short
Lotus        36                       13

   First stop          20               (to go on your pit board)                          13       (to go on your pit board)
  Second stop       18               (to go on your pit board)                         7        (to go on your pit board)

I am so NOT looking forward to this having done zero practice since the Historic race, and none in the Lotus AT ALL!

What a disgrace to Clark & Hill!  ::) SHE would have had your head chopped off long ago if you were a Waza!  :D A self respectable waza strangles oneself with their own fundoshi rather than taking the shame!  ;) Which reminds me, I'm one race away from having to do that...

The last time I did practice at Rouen in 67s, it was in the Eagle so I could remember how the track went and where to brake! I don't take D1 as seriously as I take the other divisions seriously. CH don't mind! ;)

Does that mean the SINGLE pit stop window is between 20 and 13 to go

OR

Does that mean the SINGLE pit stop window is between 20 and 7 to go

 :-\  :-\  :-\

How the hell should I know? I just copy and paste these things :-\

But, I think a single stop may be taken anywhere between 20 and 7 to go, which makes logical sense as it is equi-distant from the start and  end of the race. ;D ;D ;)

No, single stop is between 20 and 13 laps to go. It has always been like that. Since a single stop is your first (and only stop), it makes sense. ;)

I think a short explanation of the server issue tonight would be in order.
Unfortunately our VROC server ukgpl.1 is sickly so Mike and I are filling in with 5 and 6. ukgpl.6 was a last minute option and is set to host on IGOR.
IGOR will only let you set the race length to INT/PRO/GP not the individual laps. To change the default laps (Rouen is 18) the servers season.ini file has to be altered manually. I do this in advance when I know it's required, eg Amateurs, then change it back to the default after the race.
Hands up but when I saw the post I didn't twig it was a non-standard distance and only realised when I was about to start the race.
Normally not a calamity but the pit stop issue compounded the problem.

Will this happen again you ask... No - now we know there's a problem with ukgpl.1 we will work round it so distances etc are set in advance.

That seems like even more reason to get my box up and running on a modem then. :)

My race: tried Geoff's setup which was easy to drive, but had some changes to be made, found a GH setup tuned for the GP race, changed the fuel level, and it was perfect for my style, had everything I was looking for. Start was good, up to 5th or 6th, taking it easy down to the hairpin, overtook with power into the quick right-hander, and was braking for the penultimate corner when I screw the exit up. Doni (EDIT happy for ya Fulvio? :) ) fairly NERFS me off the track as I'm rejoining and I'm down near the back with evilclive and Bernie. The next couple of laps were good, was thinking of the pitstop, then hit the inside kerb of that quick right-hander to send me wobbling towards the outside grass where I understeered and found a tree which my Lotus was magnetised to! End of the race, but not after taking out and scaring the s*** out of people coming towards me.

Well I was first on the scene but fortunately you disconnected a fraction of a second before I hit you. Not that it did me much good as I must have picked up some some spilt oil (what do you mean  -that isn't modelled!!) and skidded off at the end of the straight. Pity really as I was having a good duel with Jack.

Well, that was a bit of a bittersweet race. I was lucky to finish 4th after my moment at Six Freres, but without that error I probably would have finished 2nd. Still, qualified 4th on the grid, passed Doni and Will after a couple of corner and watched Hristo shoot away into the distance. The next half of the race was straight forward, with me still in 2nd but then I lost the back end approaching Six Freres and rode the banking for quite some distance. Was very lucky not to hit the wall and I soldiered on, behind Tim and Doni in 4th.

I was rather frustrated by this, and that did reflect in my driving. I kept making small mistakes here and there which made me even slower and Will began to close up onto my gearbox. Eventually Will was in my slipstream and passed me on the main straight, but outbraked himself at Scierie. I took the place back and began to catch Doni, who had an off in the BRM. On the last lap, me being me, I posted my personal best of a 1:58, over a second faster than my next best effort  :-\. I really don't know why I can't sustain that pace throughout the race instead of just a last gasp attempt. Another finish then, but I was hoping for a podium here.

Congrats to Hristo on the convincing win and to Tim for taking over the lead in the driver's championship.

Grats to Hristo for a fine, runaway victory!  Man, he had that Red Ball Special just a hummin'!  :)

Great job by Tim for a P2 finish despite my best efforts at scaring the ever-lovin' crap out of him.   ;D

A very luck P3 for me with Sam closing down fast.  Another couple of laps and I would have been done like a Swanson.

Popped in a 59 in Q to match a PB of earlier in the day in warmup.  Buggered the start with insufficient revs to hold Sam who rocketed by to dump me to P4.  Jethro surged past on the uphill run to Gresill and I followed into Scierie.  There, his Lotus went just a touch wide and I sneaked by on the right.  In scoping the replay later, I think it was I that cuffed you back out onto the grass verge, JW.  Sry.  Didn't feel a thing...my P115 didn't react but clearly, your Lotus was affected.

Tim closed in rapidly and jumped under me on braking for Scierie on L3 and I did my best to hold him off by late braking with ideas of keeping him pinched low thru the corner but all I really managed to succeed in doing was laying down some lovely, long black streaks from the Goodyears.  Burned off about 50 laps worth of prime rubber right there!   :laugh:

Ran around P4 and P5 til the stops vaulted me up the leaderboard.  Got a shock when I saw a BRM parked facing the wrong way down the Six Freres complex...Sam had come to grief there.  Vaulted right up to P2 on L10 and tried to up the pace to hang onto it.  Tim made his quick stop and was launching a charge shaving off a second per lap til he was right with me starting L16.  If I minded my P's & Q's, I might just be able to hold him off.  Not so.  Down thru the esses and at Six Freres, I hop the inside kerb and lose the car comprehensively.  Just along for the ride.  Of course, Tim is right behind me and getting a face full of molten rubber smoke.  He ducks to the left verge to miss me and hangs on for dear life!  I pull off a full 360° and resume without stopping having maintained the position.  I should have left well enough alone, tho, as almsot immediately, I overdid the run into Nouveau Monde and spun the car again to smite the tires.  Tim skipped by on the inside and was away and gone.  I rebounded off the tires and got going again not too far ahead of Sam who closed in mightily but ran out of time to nail down P3.  Made it home with barely a second to spare!  Lucky boy!

Due to the pre race confusion, I didnt do a pit stop, somehow I got the impression that the pit stop times would be added 'after' the race  ::)

Outshone everyone in qually as I took Hiristo off on his last lap flier , just glad he had pole in the bag anyway , but it kind of dampened my enthusiasm for the race because I was on my best lap too , then I realised almost too late I was fueled up for 25 Laps so in a last minute dash back to the pits to get the fuel load lightened , I came back to the grid with the wrong set up on board , so was easy meat once more  :-\

TBH even with my best I was way off the pace , though I have a 1.59 coop PB somewhere I dont seem able to find it these days , havnt checked my race pace but the laps were a lot slower than I thought possible .

On the bright side I finished in one piece having enjoyed some good close stuff (for a short time anyway)  due to the fast lads passing me then tripping up and having to do it all again . I survived the flying (Lotus) as he decended back to earth by a gnats whisker ( my crash hat now bears the legend of Firestone )

Grats to Hiristo (next time honk yer horn)

Commiserations to JackO (who I know did his utmost) to demote me in the closing laps
by goosing both his tyres and his chances )
What your pit team didn't tell you Dave , was that I have a pit penalty due , so maybe you still get the place  ;)

Or Not :D



 

Well, a lot of confusion for this one. It would be nice if we don't rush things next time even if it means shortening the qualifying session since race distance matters 10x more because of the pitstops.

Bernie, I knew you were on your fast lap but I wouldn't have interfered with it as I was passing you on the straight before the long fast righthander, had you kept your line that is. You moved to the middle of the track instead and so contact was inevitable as we were already side by side. It's not that it hurt my qualifying and it probably hurt yours much more.  ::)

I had a good start and led off to build a gap quickly, with everyone behind fighting and slowing each other. The race didn't go as well from there on, although I had enough pace. The car was very odd, understeering on exits and unpredictable on entry and braking. With a few offs, spins and a couple of concrete tyres collected, it was a little miracle I could reach the finish in one piece.

Made my pistop before lap 13 but noticed others didn't. Considering the change of race distance though I suppose that shouldn't be perceived as against the rules as there were simply no clear rules.  :D

Since I'm a Pribluda new born user and for some reason can't get myself to turn it off  ;D I was following the progress of Tim and Evil through the field. Sadly Evil retired early on, but Tim kept moving up and claimed a fantastic 2nd to give Hiki Waza another 1-2. Great drive, Tim!

Grats to Doni for a fine 3rd as well and all other finishers.

-=Hristo=-

Seems I follow Sam no matter what series we race.....and the one time I get a chance to pass, I blow it. Just glad we didn't make contact. Great run Sam. The hunt is always a bit more fun anyway.  8)

After I out braked myself, I completely lost my cool and my driving went to pot. About the only good news was I set a PB in qually and it was nice to at least see H for a few brief seconds of a race...other than getting lapped.  ;D

Very nice Wazza 1-2 finish and grats to Doni for third.

Don't worry Sam....I got your back..................

Grats all,

Will

Jethro I think it's always a nice thing to not put names when you are unsure and even when you are sure. Dony has yet assumed the responsability for your off.
I gently ask you to check the replay for a Lotus rejoining the track after it went wide at Paradise, I had to go out on the grass and brake hard to avoid the Lotus cutting the track ;)
I was counting on this race for a good placement but I joined late and on my flying lap in qualy I found a Cooper parked on the fast right hander, so no time for me and I started last but one.
Later in the race I had some dice with Bernie in one of the other Cooper and after I passed him I did the pit stop and he passed me again so we had another dice again till I managed to pass him. :)
Then I pushed a lot to try to catch Will but there weren't still enough laps.

Ciao

Sorry Fulvio, edited accordingly now I know which git it was. ;) The part where you had to avoid me was a consequence of my running wide and the inevitable sudden grip of the tarmac versus the grass I'd had half a second previous, there was nothing I could do about it except keep moving smoothly in a single direction without sudden wheel movements and hope you didn't hit me. I had to avoid you on my crash lap though when you mated your car with the hay bales. :)

Ok Jetrho, at first it seemed to me a blocking manouvre but I can understand you had handling troubles.
Haybals? Where...what?  ;D
Ciao

Fulvio

I fear that may have been me, shocked after spoiling Hiristo,s lap , if so I really do apologise .

In mitigation I can only say that I too was on my one clear lap,  due to the shortened practise time and being badly baulked on previous laps I was not driving normally because the qually time was so short.

I honestly believe the car coming behind me was the same car who came out of the pit lane in front of me,  who I passed when he overran the nuevo monde hairpin and had now caught me back up again .

Having seen the replay I now know that car was actually a Lotus and of course it was Hiristo who was coming to pass me in the No1 Moby Dick. Why I didnt note the difference ? perhaps I was concentrating too hard on the road in front and not the mirrors .

Hope I didnt spoil your day too much  :-\

   

Not a problem Bernie, it's worst when you lost concentration on last qualy lap cause there is people chatting like last night at Goodwood in GBGPL 65.
I enjoyed our dice in the race too.
Ciao

I apologize for chatting, Fulvio, but the risk of someone doing so is always there, so your best option is to turn the chat off. It does wonders, trust me. :P

This is why there is a rule asking people not to talk (save for POs) until everybody has finished their laps. With some people attempting Senna-like last-gasp efforts, this means you wait for the last person to cross the chequered flag and it says "Session Complete".

Beg pardon but "session complete" does not mean for sure that everyone has completed there lap .

It simply means the chequered is being shown to signify end of session . there could still be a whole bunch  of cars still on there final qually lap , so please keep shtum till all cars have crossed the finish line under the chequered flag .

 ;D

No, Bernie, Session Complete means everyone has finished their laps. It is Stand By what you're thinking of. Anyway, I know very well the rules Jethro, but I'm saying there is always going to be someone who says something, without intentions to break the rules but out of emotion. Turning the chat off helps a lot, besides there's no real reason why you need the chat while driving, at least I can't think of one.  :D