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Title: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: EvilClive on May 14, 2009, 09:09:15 PM +0100
b]Division 1 - Round 6 - Lime Rock Mountain[/b]

Round 6 of the Season 17 Div 1 championship is at Lime Rock Mountain. 
This is not quite the first time Division 1 have been to Lime Rock Mountain. 
It's an extended version of the original short track with some Nurburgring-like sweeps and crests to provide some extra passing opportunities ( or trips into the greenery) . 

Turn 1, Lap 1, on cold tyres after a good run from the start line can cause problems and leads directly into  T2 and T3, (well there's a surprise I hear you say!! ::)).  But I mention this small detail as a warning of infinite opportunity to end both your race and someone else's so very easily...so please be careful and remember that you cannot win the race in the first half lap...but you sure as hell can lose it!!!

 The track can be downloaded here (http://gplmz.bcsims.com/index.php?showtopic=2884).

Don't forget, incident reports should be entered on the SRou system following the link at the bottom of the results table when it appears.  Race details below.

Div 1 Season 17 Round 6 is this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time.
Please be in VROC  UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
VROC and Race passwords: see above

Server 5.ukgpl
IP address ..... ping     myjamesonline.net

Race date = 24-05-2009
Track = Lime Rock Mountain
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 50 minutes (30 laps)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=73&theme=6)


    Single Stop Time      Double Stop Time
BRM       No Stop                               No Stop
Cooper      Stop and Go                  Too Short
Honda      Stop and Go                  Too Short
Brabham      Stop and Go                  Too Short
Eagle            3                               Too Short
Ferrari          10                               Too Short
Lotus          22                               Too Short



 First Pit Window is: 24 (to go on your pit board) to 16 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 22 (to go on your pit board) to 8 (to go on your pit board)
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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Turkey Machine on May 15, 2009, 02:47:26 PM +0100
Might have to miss this one, am camping in a field with friends next to a pub, that just so happens to have a beer festival going on that weekend. Oh the shame! ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: EvilClive on May 15, 2009, 03:50:43 PM +0100
Gee! ain't life tough for those poor students ::) you gotta feel sorry for them... :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 16, 2009, 03:36:44 PM +0100
Might have to miss this one, am camping in a field with friends next to a pub, that just so happens to have a beer festival going on that weekend. Oh the shame! ;D

Friends in a Field  ? whatever turns you on mate , guess its somewhere in Wales then  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Turkey Machine on May 17, 2009, 01:14:43 AM +0100
Might have to miss this one, am camping in a field with friends next to a pub, that just so happens to have a beer festival going on that weekend. Oh the shame! ;D

Friends in a Field  ? whatever turns you on mate , guess its somewhere in Wales then  ;D
They're good friends Bernie, but not THAT good. :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 17, 2009, 01:36:37 AM +0100
Friends in a field can't compare with the experience on this track, shame on you. IMO probably the best track this season. I just hope we avoid the screen freeze troubles that I recall from some past races.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 17, 2009, 08:07:42 PM +0100
Might have to miss this one, am camping in a field with friends next to a pub, that just so happens to have a beer festival going on that weekend. Oh the shame! ;D

Friends in a Field  ? whatever turns you on mate , guess its somewhere in Wales then  ;D
They're good friends Bernie, but not THAT good. :P

Baaaaaahhh!  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 17, 2009, 10:31:24 PM +0100
Well that was great , my inter debute,  just get settled in  and the bleedin engine goes POP  ::)

Must have upset the Oil God , the official reason was "Piston " so very  very apt  :'(



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Turkey Machine on May 17, 2009, 10:35:56 PM +0100
Well that was great , my inter debute,  just get settled in  and the bleedin engine goes POP  ::)

Must have upset the Oil God , the official reason was "Piston " so very  very apt  :'(


Wrong thread Bernie. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: miner2049er on May 17, 2009, 10:57:51 PM +0100
the official reason was "Piston " so very  very apt  :'(

Spoken like a true Wiganer. Piston broke.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 17, 2009, 11:10:07 PM +0100
Well that was great , my inter debute,  just get settled in  and the bleedin engine goes POP  ::)

Must have upset the Oil God , the official reason was "Piston " so very  very apt  :'(


Wrong thread Bernie. ;)

Do I care  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 17, 2009, 11:56:40 PM +0100

Do I care  ;D


That attitude guarantees your seat in Interleague team, unless you chicken out to race Clubman's again.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 18, 2009, 12:22:26 AM +0100
Ran the Clubmans on 1.UKGPL on this track tonight.  Everyone had a good connection.  Unfortunately one driver had a screen freeze when entering the pit lane to do a S&G.  Hopefully that won't happen for the Div 1 race. 

I know the potential for screen freezes is of concern to a few drivers.  I'll run a few practice sessions this week if anyone is interested so we can make sure everyone can connect without screen freeze problems.  If someone wants to suggest a few dates and times I'll try and set the server up.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2009, 12:44:48 AM +0100
Ran the Clubmans on 1.UKGPL on this track tonight.  Everyone had a good connection.  Unfortunately one driver had a screen freeze when entering the pit lane to do a S&G.  Hopefully that won't happen for the Div 1 race. 

I know the potential for screen freezes is of concern to a few drivers.  I'll run a few practice sessions this week if anyone is interested so we can make sure everyone can connect without screen freeze problems.  If someone wants to suggest a few dates and times I'll try and set the server up.

It is a problem with the track, but not nearly as serious as other notorious freezing tracks. I remember a few seasons ago when we had a spec and a normal race in Breasts there. In one of those a few people had freezes, while in the other I think nobody had that problem. No clue what causes it...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: miner2049er on May 18, 2009, 08:20:02 AM +0100
Is screen freeze a server issue or a client issue?

I thought it was caused by clients runnning Prib with incompatible graphics drivers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2009, 09:37:18 AM +0100
Is screen freeze a server issue or a client issue?

I thought it was caused by clients runnning Prib with incompatible graphics drivers.

It's a track issue.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 18, 2009, 09:45:57 AM +0100
Yea , It chucks limey's out  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Ken Murray on May 18, 2009, 10:00:59 AM +0100
Is screen freeze a server issue or a client issue?

I thought it was caused by clients runnning Prib with incompatible graphics drivers.

There is an issue with GPL when running the more recent drivers, but it has nothing to do with Pribluda. You get freezes near the pits but the cure is to use the new rasterisers by Nigel Pattinson. As I say it has nothing to do with Pribluda afaik.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2009, 05:01:46 PM +0100
Is screen freeze a server issue or a client issue?

I thought it was caused by clients runnning Prib with incompatible graphics drivers.

There is an issue with GPL when running the more recent drivers, but it has nothing to do with Pribluda. You get freezes near the pits but the cure is to use the new rasterisers by Nigel Pattinson. As I say it has nothing to do with Pribluda afaik.

Do the new rasterizers sort out screen freezes even in those tracks that we know were causing freezes before? That would be great!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 18, 2009, 09:55:29 PM +0100
Sure there is a couple of lime's out there , wonder if we are all using the same track ?

dunno if that would make a difference for some getting freezes and others OK  ???

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Ken Murray on May 18, 2009, 11:11:22 PM +0100
Is screen freeze a server issue or a client issue?

I thought it was caused by clients runnning Prib with incompatible graphics drivers.

There is an issue with GPL when running the more recent drivers, but it has nothing to do with Pribluda. You get freezes near the pits but the cure is to use the new rasterisers by Nigel Pattinson. As I say it has nothing to do with Pribluda afaik.

Do the new rasterizers sort out screen freezes even in those tracks that we know were causing freezes before? That would be great!

Not afaik Hristo.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Doni Yourth on May 21, 2009, 01:07:47 AM +0100
I've run several races here with Bob Bernhard's NAGPL league with no probs for all concerned.  Quite like the circuit.  Too bad it never came to be.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Will Tway on May 21, 2009, 06:44:48 PM +0100
Hope none of y'all gets lime disease during this one.... I've had it and it's no fun.

Memorial day weekend this side of the pond so BBQ and beers are in order for Sunday so no Slim Rock for me. I love the Mt. course and will miss it. GLA and stay away for deer tics....

Will




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: JamesRye on May 24, 2009, 09:50:27 PM +0100
Blast  ???

Qualified really well, dont know where the time came from.

Too much wheelspin off the start line and the Honda on row 3 got a blinder to P1.

Hassled by a honda for the first lap, someone fell off in front of me and I was running in P2. Then held him off for a lap maybe until the 2 faster cars passed me. One on the main straight and 1 cos I selected neutral by mistake.  ::)

I wasn't trying for hot laps, just to make it round, but I lost it on lap 5 and that was that. In my defence, I was having frame rate issues (runs fine offline - gotta get the rasterisers sorted as when I run through GEM on the 65's, there is no prob) and this contributed to my early demise.

Anyways, now I know how a real GP driver feels after a silly mistake puts him out of the race (looking at you Nelson). Never mind, at least my pace was Ok and I had some fun dicing with (faster) Hondas. Those Hondas looked real hard to drive mind, very tail happy... :)

Sorry to my team, we should have had a P5 or 6 at the pace that I could manage.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: JamesRye on May 24, 2009, 10:02:48 PM +0100
I did say that frame rate issues contributed to my early demise, but then again, the guy in 5th was exerting maximum pressure and this was also a factor (so well done to that person for forcing the error).

 May have been watching my mirrors too much.

before someone else says it....  'to finish (somewhere), first you have to finish. :)

Ryeman


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Will Tway on May 24, 2009, 10:03:52 PM +0100
Huge apology to Michael Turner at the start. My wheel suddenly froze and I had no control over any inputs for about a second. A very hopeless feeling. I was glad to see him carry on. Also sorry to Dave to slowing his start as well.

The Brab starting spewing oil on lap 12.............

Cheers,

Will


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: bernie on May 24, 2009, 11:23:26 PM +0100
I was having a great race until about lap 6 when I ran out of smarties  :'(



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 24, 2009, 11:33:28 PM +0100
I was watching the Indy 500 and delayed entering to the server as much as I could, but alas I had to miss the last stint. Indycar.com had great live broadcast with onboard cameras and radio communication, so it was like doing the race yourself. Some great insights on what teams and drivers talk about during such long races and you also realize how difficult it is to keep up your concentration. The vibrations and speeds were amazing too.

Well, anyway, I joined and copied over a Brands 67 setup since the tracks have similar characteristics. It worked quite well and with a few changes to the gearbox I was immediately on the pace. Had a great flying lap in the very end which cemented my Waza on pole.  :)

The start wasn't so good, I dropped too much revs by trying to not overrev the engine and as Tim rocketed through to take the lead, I followed him fending off James' flying BRM in T1.

Tim quickly built a gap on cold tyres and full tanks, which surprised me but I was not worried as the race was long and difficult. Soon I began to catch up with my teammate and it was shaping up to be a good battle for the victory, but he went off in T4 (?) and that elevated me to 1st.

It was important to avoid overreving the engine over all the crests and bumps, and also keep a good pace until the pitstop. I was expecting James to challenge me because he didn't have to do a pitstop, but after he dropped there were no more threats, so now I just had to bring the car to the finish.

The tyres melted pretty quickly and I had a few moments plus one off at T1 as the car was suddenly sliding around in some places. The stop and go I had to do went just fine, at the limit of pit window and the gaps after it were such that all my focus was on saving the car.

There were no problems with backmarkers, except Phil getting a bit loose in T1 but we sorted it out.

To be honest I was hoping Doni would manage to keep Tim in 3rd to allow me to close up the gap in the championship standings a bit more, but he was running out of fuel in the end and lost 2 positions. Which was great news for Hiki Waza of course, a 1-2-3 with Evil taking 3rd! SHE WILL BE PLEASED! (shush, bernie, you're not HER type)

Cheers,
-=Hristo=-


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Michael Turner on May 25, 2009, 10:58:48 AM +0100
Huge apology to Michael Turner at the start. My wheel suddenly froze and I had no control over any inputs for about a second. A very hopeless feeling. I was glad to see him carry on. Also sorry to Dave to slowing his start as well.

The Brab starting spewing oil on lap 12.............

Cheers,

Will
No harm done, Will. Fortunately the Eagle is is well built and also survived my bouncing off Phil later in the race.
An enjoyable race on a challenging course the saw me tussling with Phil and Bernie over a few laps till I pulled off for the mandatory pit stop. I also had Jack in my sights for quite a while but never succeeded in getting close enough to pass.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: FullMetalGasket on May 26, 2009, 09:54:15 AM +0100
Had a great race, I seem to be pretty rubbish at practicing here (I consider the qualy time for clubmans to be a fluke) but always seem to hold it together quite well in the races.
Knew from last week that I could have been challenging for 2nd spot in qually (prib has claimed in the past I'm capable of a 1.39, so maybe better if I got lucky!) but couldn't keep it together..
Come the race I got an awesome start while both H and James appeared to bog down slightly, lept into 1st and set about going as fast as poss. Had no doubt Hristo would eventually catch me but wanted to ensure the rest of the field had been dropped before that happened - all was looking good till I made a silly mistake on L2  ::)

Re-joined in 5th I think and set about chasing Evil (in 4th) down while he in turn hassled James. When I was about a lap from being close enough to have to start considering a move Evil claimed the 3rd spot - James was now on the chase and was prooving pretty hard to get around.
Thankfully he managed to find neutral (an italian gearbox in a BRM?) and I slipped inside him approaching the hill.
Caught Evil after a bit, went around the outside of him on the run towards the hill having got a good jump on him - he presumably didn't see me as he bonked me off the track.
Thankfully (for me) James had retired by this point so apart from loosing about 4-5 seconds I remained 4th and could set about chasing Evil back down.

Got past Evil 2nd time lucky and started chasing Doni - was making a fair bit of progress until I span and gifted him back 4 or 5 seconds. Rejoined and got back to chasing....
It was clear I was now too far back to catch him if he stayed on track but I continued pushing anyway for 'just in case'.
With 3 laps to go Doni started spluttering and slowed down - I caught him and was suprised by the fact he was crawling around and simply moved over to let me by. As a result I pushed hard for the next lap to insure there was space if he re-awakened and gave chase, this never happened of course so I settled back into my more normal rhythm.
Then at the start of the final lap the engine started spluttering just as I was completing a lapping maneuver on (Micheal?)! I instantly selected 5th and backed off - letting (Micheal?) back through about 2 corners later when he caught me back up. Finished the lap in high gears without exceeding about 7,000rpm at any point until the finish straight!  :sweatdrop:

Congrats to my fellow Waza's for 1st and 3rd! SHE will be pleased!! ;D
Commiserations Doni for a good fight, and well done to all the finishers!  :angel:

To be honest I was hoping Doni would manage to keep Tim in 3rd to allow me to close up the gap in the championship standings a bit more
You can choose your friends, but not your family and team mates eh Hristo?  :ninja:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 28, 2009, 12:02:41 AM +0100
No harm done, Will. Fortunately the Eagle is is well built and also survived my bouncing off Phil later in the race.
Yes it was a close call there.  I got a decent drive out of Klee Kurve and got along side you but I don't think you saw me so I had to take to the grass to try to avoid contact.  Didn't manage it though and we bumped wheels.  Somehow we both made the next corner.  Who said close racing isn't possible with GPL LOL.

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An enjoyable race on a challenging course the saw me tussling with Phil and Bernie over a few laps till I pulled off for the mandatory pit stop. I also had Jack in my sights for quite a while but never succeeded in getting close enough to pass.
Yes it was a good race on a tough course.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 03, 2009, 06:14:24 PM +0100
Could we get the results for this already please?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Lime Rock (mountain) - May 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 03, 2009, 09:28:36 PM +0100
Could we get the results for this already please?
Done.  Bernie was dropped from the server on the last lap so the HTML export and the GPLRA report were inconsistent.  Had to edit the HTML file before the results could be imported.