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Season 9's grand finalé!

Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GT2 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.5.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: UKGTR Donington GP 2004 (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=198;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car and track packs (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
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(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Really looking forward to this one. The aim is finishing the race without a stop&go :laugh:

It's never gonna happen! ;)
My aim, is to restrict myself to two stop&go's  :-*

My goal: finish with the Marcos in front of GT2s.  :P

Err, are they likely to repair the servers at the weekend or are they gonna wait till monday?

Realistically its unlikely to go ahead surely? :(

It's certainly looking shaky right now... :-\

Maybe Busi wont get a stop/go on Sunday  :o ;)

Looks like we've all got a long stop'n'go and not much chance of the 'go' :(

 :( :'(

Server is back up so we should be good to go (says picnic standing on one leg in a bucket while crossing fingers and praying to the great server god of online racing)

Can I switch to GT2 for this event to try to get some team points?  :)

Only if you promise to finish ahead of JPS and behind me! :P

If only you don't steal points from others  ;)

 :-*

It doesn't make a difference to me personally TT, as our Team Oldie have already won the Team event (yes, Team Oldie :o :o :o ;D), but your team mates MJ & JPS will probably need some convincing.

In GT2, the Team Legends (MJ & JPS), Team Shark (Gizmo & Picnic) & Racin24-7 (Purdie) have spent the season scrapping it out. Any one of those teams can still secure 2nd place team overall, despite The Legends having managed to earn themselves a small points cushion.

With the drivers championship also still up for grabs for three people (Myself, Blunder & Purdie), what an exciting end of season event we GT2 drivers are going to enjoy! :drool: :sweatdrop:

 Just wanted to let you know my computer has been down for about a month now. Haven't been able to make races. I won't join today, looks like last race of season. I don't want to get in anybodies way going for the championship. I will check back and try to join in for the next season.  Thanks

Oooh, bad luck Smokey :( hope you do make it for the next season which i'm sure wont be too far away.

Women!!!
At the pitstops my otherhalf announced that the cat had escaped so I continued for a short time before calling it quits to help the search. Where was he.......Under the bed :-X Was enjoying a steady run before that. Would never have won but 2nd was there to be taken. Will report back with due grats later

Well what a dreadful way to end the season.

Was amazed to outqualify JPS, and thought I'd tuned out the worst of the snap oversteer under braking, and found a way to get some heat into the fronts.

Wrong. What worked fine in practice and qualifying reverted to Tuesday's form in the race, with cold fronts and awful snap oversteer at the end of the hard braking zones. With about 20 minutes to go, and just one place behind JPS, it face planted me into the barriers on the way out of the Foggy Esses and I decided to go do something more fun, like sticking pins into my eyes.

Wish I'd taken the DBR9 now. I seem to have had a knack for picking the most evil cars this season, though I'm still puzzled as to why the 360 GTC was so much worse at Donington than the other three tracks I used it at. ???

I HATE PITSTOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! :taz: :censored: :censored: :cursing: Had really good start, really close racing with Blunder, great driving mate. Go into pits after 50 mins 3rd in class, take fuel + tyres, come out last but 1, and 19 secs adrift of Mr. Oily & JPS. Got to within 5 secs of them, but by that time had fried the rears, and was running out of juice. NOT A HAPPY CAMPER!! Anyone tell me how to do pitstops better, cause I suck at them!  Gratz to all, looking forward to next season.

Good race that :)

No idea how spanner and legzy jumped me in pits when I had my fastest stop EVER at 57 seconds ::) Made for a great dice with spanner to the end though. Just about given up catching him but I managed a couple of fast laps 5 mins before end and caught him with 3mins. He didn't give up without a fight, nice and clean of course.

Can I make a quick suggestion that those who are yet to pit, leave those who have through when its possible. There were a couple of times when spanner and I were held up tonight when I thought it was totally avoidable.

Congrats to Legzy and Freq and all the runner and riders. Roll on S10 :)

  

Lost connection a few laps after pitstop :(

The 430 also didn't go as well as when I practiced and setup yesterday. Track conditions maybe?

Looked like a close battle going on with the GT1s  :)

Congrats to winners (and losers). Can't wait till next season.

Well I had to carry the honour of the Legends Team GT2 on my own shoulders. and what a cracking race...I had to beat and stay in front of Gizmo my main rival in the championship, a Royal Thrashing I think Dave, you seem to loose alot after your spin, great to have had a ring side seat when it happened...I think I have finished 4th or 5th overall in GT2 Enduro don't know if I managed to do enough to keep the Team Shark from our heals on the Team front and secure 2nd..I think I might of done this with a 3rd or 4th finish in this race :drive:

Messy race for me.

Sorry to all effected by my 'lack of skills to pay the bills' tonight. Mainly TT, who I shunted into a wall :(. I am glad that you kept going TT. I had given my self a drive through but, when I saw that you were still going, I waited for you during my pit stop.

I could not get passed TT once he was past me. I once again 'did a Hal' as Ruskus says, by accidentally hitting my engine button when trying to cycle through the XD screens. ::) TT went straight passed.

 I do believe that I said 'GLA, mainly TT. He will need it.' or something like that at the start of the race. You needed luck all rite, luck that my stupidity would not take us both out.

I look a numpty now as TT was about as fast as me in his Marcos.

Well done Podiums, thanks organisers for another amazing championship. :)

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090531%20U9UE/index.html)

Or perhaps just give up if all I am doing is getting in the way of the aliens....

Didn't enjoy that and finished last - perhaps it would do everyone a favour.  :(

Woooo!  :D

Sorry for the odd lapping Gazza - I was planning to sit behind you until the end but your car had one massive warp moment and it just missed me. That spooked me and I decided I'd have to get in front  :-\

Shame about Busi, as he was clearly the fastest tonight. We were having a good mess about on lap 1 and was surprised to get by, but what happened?

Lets have Watkins Glen in next season's circuit mix ;D

What a great opening lap indeed lol trying everything to keep the lead to you. But during quali friends called me and would've had to leave around halfway through the race so when I spun following you I just went for an 'esc'. Went to the casino, won 50 Eur not bad :laugh:

Happy to have beaten the qualifying record though ;D

Grats on win & championship to both Freq & Legzy :)

Nah, I think it's just that Donington is one of those tracks where if your car isn't working well, it's going to be a very long race.

And you beat me. :P

What, did you eat some sour mushrooms or some such?  :P  Stop moaning, I clearly joined in the Marcos just for the fun of it. ;D  This car gives me a thrill in driving as none else does. It truly ROARS!  :o  I'm sure at least GT2 guys heard it behind before you could see it in your mirrors. ;D Besides, I should be apologizing to you for holding you so long - it was clearly unfair as you could go much faster on empty track. It was good that you had a scrap with Gazza, H@l. That way I could stay close and pass you when you "did a H@l". ;D

Now, about Marcos:
It was the first time I drove it for such a long period. I must say I did some preparations, I think I made 100 laps before the race. My pb was in the mid 1:26 on an empty track, so not so slow. Err, race specs, so there must be some reserve still. ;) Tried off line race against AI and the laptimes fell down 1 sec immediately. This car really needs a whole track, so it's not suited for close racing - as H@l experienced. ;D  Again, it's not your fault, H@l. By that time tyres were worn and I had to rely more and more on power-off/on to steer the beast - steering with the wheel didn't really work. :P  But when you floor it...  :scared: :blink: :eek: :w00t:  Nothing comes near. 8)  

This car being what it is, to fix it at least partially the brakes have to be made better. I had cooling opened to 5 at it still came to 600'C at hard braking which there is a lot of on this track. I had ballance to 63,5% front. Anything less and the rear snapped around when front brakes started to fade and rears gripped the discs properly. By the time I came to the next corner the brakes cooled down totaly and I had to brake sooner. So - brakes need to be fixed.

I'm not sure if the differential works as it should. It was evident from the beginning that the car is an understeary one, like C6R is. When I set power diff to 0 I could hardly go with full power through the Craner - the car wants to go straight. But with 0 power diff there's a violent spinning of an inner rear wheel out of the slow corners, like Melbourne hairpin - undrivable. Same with 5, 10, and 15 power diff. So I finaly setlled for 20 power diff and even with that I had to lift-off on top of Craner curves to make that left hander before the Old Hairpin.
Coast diff is another matter. Anything above 15 makes the car go straight. Really straight.  ::)  You can turn the wheel all the way, but the car goes straight.  :D  If you set it to 0 you get turned around on braking and adding throttle enabled me to catch it in about 75% corners.  :P  Driving skills aside, you need to grab that car by the scruff of it's neck and lead it like that all the time. And that's where the fun starts to fade a bit. Add H@l trying to pass and you get a situation where it's best to park it and grab a beer.  :-\  I finaly decided to take a 15 coast diff compromise.

Believe me, I tried a soft front and hard rear and rear ride hight so high the car was almost scraping the floor with the splitter. Low wing, too and all combinations. Nothing really works in fast corners. With the power down you mostly get a spin, even in 6th there's too much power. I had a power spin in the Starkey's.  :D  Besides, if you get it to turn in fast corners, you get a spin under braking or on corner exit. Or through the chicane. I had to have almost full power while braking for the Esses chicane.  :lol: That, or it spit me out every time.

Still, if this could be fixed, I'd take it for the S10 GT1, it really feels like a racing car more than any other I tried. :)  Someone with more knowledge than me about the car setting and modding would have to dive into it, but I'm open to help with the testing.  :)

Grats to GT2 Legends drivers - too bad MJ didn't come home on time to drive, but JPS has done the job admirably. Glad to have you in the team.  8)

Grats to teams and individuals for their titles and thanks to the staff for superb organizing. I don't know any other League with such a high standards in driving and organizing. It's worthed to drive here even with MJ in the team.  :-*

TT

P.S.
Was funny, I couldn't get out of sand - the engine was too strong. Wheels were spinning madly in 6th.  :P  Ok, I did have front puncture, but even so. Surprisingly engine faded only 1% while its temp was up to 150'C.

It most certainly would not :) S10 and a fresh start is just around the corner (in your own time Dave ;)).   

 :D  It's gets easier to shrug off this events in later years. My wife has given up on dragging me away as I just yell out: "Sorry Dear. Can't hear ya!"  :P

Results don't lie - you beat me to  ;) You also know generally we are pretty evenly matched. I have no idea where my qual lap came from but it was the only one I did quicker than your qual time.

My race was ruined by my game crashing as I approached the last corner of the last lap. I seem to be suffering this problem quite a lot :( It's either caused by all the fun crashing we do after or when people quit to garage or the game. Freq was getting close to lapping me again when I started my last lap so it was a long run to the finish. Cost me 4 places. I should have been 13th.

You too buddy! that's what it's all about!

Don't sweat the pit stops! All I would say is, strategy in the Endurance events are as important as ultimate speed!
Has taken us a long time to perfect ours!

Great race for me! Was getting quicker and quicker as the race went on but just didn't have the pace to run with the top 3 !

Congratulations to Legzy for an excellent season and well deserved 1st place in the GT2 championship.
Shame MJ and Purdie didn't turn up to make a race of it!?

Thanks mainly to Legzy's determination to become a set up guru!  ;D and his determination to make sure I was quite good too! (so he didn't have to do all my set up's ! lol  ;) ) I managed to scrap a second in the championship but again would have been more satisfying if all the fast boys had been about!

Thanks to all the organisers for a really enjoyable season.
A 1st Team championship for Team Oldie ever, plus 1 and 2 individually!
How are we gonna top that!

Thanks all

M.

Well done Joss on the championship, another dominate display to snatch the championship back from Gazza at the last round and also help secure a victory for Team Shark in the GT1 team championship.

Also congratulations to Team Oldie and Legzy on the GT2 championships who prove that when you're retired you have more spare time to practice. ;)

I had a pretty uneventful race, plodding around in the Lister (cor that car is so easy to drive, it was like a Sunday afternoon cruise), coming home 2nd to help secure the team championship.

Thanks again to all the organisers, you know who you are and a special mention to Pete for the pain he endures with the demands of liasing with the server providers.


Unlucky there Jon, otherwise it could have been a Team Shark 1-2-3 lock-out in GT1! ;D


Have to disagree with this. If it's racing for position then those drivers have the right to fight for it. There is no telling what the weather will do or anything, so they may not actually be a pit stop behind. Endurance is partly about tactics and doing long stints and playing the weather game is one of those tactics. The crux of the matter is though that if you are battling for position, then you are battling for position, no matter if you are a pit stop out at the current time, there is absolutely no reason to move over because you are not being lapped. Holding the opposition up on worn tyres may be vital further into the race, so it's all fair and important stuff.

Silly question I'm sure but you have got Simple Debris Collision turned on haven't you?

sorry guys..............

after a run of missing races I cudn't make this one as it was my birthday weekend and my gf took to me to Brighton all weekend, didn't get back until 9pm last night  :-\ .............. a real shame as in both sprint and enduro gt2 champs I could have edged into the top 3  :-[

BIG grats to Legzy  :laugh: .... apologies you were on your own yesterday but it was a solid victory overall..... 5 podiums out of 8 races...

and grats to FreQ who's brain work a bit quicker than us gt2 drivers with the  ;)

Yes Dave, first thing I checked :(

Clearly a "glass half full" kinda chap :) Ever the pessimist, I have always ceded the place in that situation and will carry on doing so.

Talking about the pace of race, gotta say the times above show that all the GT2 gents were pretty damn close in my opinion. With such evenness it was a case of not making mistakes and it looks Legzy drove a beaut. Hopefully next season (in your own time Dave
;) ) will be much more of the same

Sorry i couldnt be here for this season finale, would liked to have taken the fight to the regular contenders from this season. Alas i was away in Wales for the weekend and did a 500 mile round trip in the 911. Got back in the evening but was too done in to join after a day driving in the heat.

Congrats to Team Oldie on their Endurance championship win and Legzy on his drivers title  8) and well done/thanks to all in the series that made it a good 'un.  :)

Very enjoyable race with Rad as there was nothing between us. :)

I take my hat off to the aliens up front with 1.24s - I have no idea how you do it - I could only muster a low 1.27 in the end, which put me near the back of the GT1 grid. The battle with Rad started almost immediately and we both lost a bit of time as we tangled up on the 1st lap. He then started to pull away when I half pirouetted on both of the hairpins in a schoolboy error stylee.

A low fuel warning sent me to the pits at mid distance and it must of been a blinder as I came out *just* in front of Rad but with cold tyres I couldn't hold him off. From then it was terrific fun chasing him through traffic with the gap yoyo-ing as we negotiated the GT2s. I was right on his tail for the last lap but he held well to take it by half a second. Good stuff!!

Tried to regale the wife with my endeavours on the track but was met with a brief look of feigned interest followed by supreme indifference. They just don't understand...

Well done to the podiums and the season winners. And a big shout to the league organisers - always a great pleasure to race here.

Thanks for all the congrats, it's been a great season where everything just seems to have come together for Team Oldie & myself.

Not sure what the biggest honour was last night, winning my 1st GTR2 a race or actually beating SBG  ;) & it all happened at Donni :o (a track I really don't get on with).

Knowing that even if Purdie had been racing tonight, I just needed a reasonable finish to pip him & Blunder to the GT2 title, I tended to shy away from any paint swapping opportunities tonight. When SBG made a mistake fairly early on & I got past, I held him up a little after he recovered, but he really was so much faster per lap. Later on i had Spanner breathing down my neck for a few laps, but I ran a little wide on T1 once & decided to flash him through too.... confident in my strategy that we'd remain close when the chequered flag would be waved.

After pitting just before the half way stage, Prof did a decent job of holding me off till I earned my pass (something I believe you did with Spanner & SBG too, so all's fair as far as I'm concerned buddy & definitely keep plugging away)... then it was just a case of watching the GT1 chaps sail past me as I did my best to manage the gap back to the scrapping Spanner & SBG, all the way to the finish.

Missed my usual season/race long fight with MJ in this one, but I'm sure he'll be back to put me in my place soon enough  :)

Well done to last nights podiums, all the overall podiums & not forgetting everyone who've lasted the distance.

Thanks to Dave & Picnic for a great season.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here here!  ;)

Exactly.  ;D  Tried to explain to my wife what a GT2 title means to me and she was politely nodding... Then I just gave up.  :D

Yea...where did that come from?! When I saw 1:24.1 I just went "if you can run that pace, you can have pole"  8)
I was on the limit for my 24.4. If I had done a perfect lap, it couldn't have been much faster, so you were definately quicker.


Up to the driver ahead really, it's annoying but you should be on new tyres and them on old - so just pass them  ;D

Wow what a race :sweatdrop:

Annoyingly i was pushing as hard as i could in qually but only ended up something like 6th GT2 so thought i'd be in for the long haul and thought i'd have a slightly longer first stint as i wasnt happy fill'in err up and wallowing around. Much to my surprise as i was slowly settling in to the race i was catching those infront and managed to get past Stewprovo, then Oily let me past and kindly decided to back the rest of them up! Cheers mate ;)
Meanwhile I'm gaining on Legzy and SBG decided leading was not much fun and seemed to be dropping back alot to practise his overtaking ;)  Legzy let me past then had SBG come up and hassle me before falling off again. Was tempted to pit at half distance as the tyre wear is a bit more equal then for both stints but thought i'd carry on till about 30mins to go before pitting. Gutting to see Legzy about 10 secs up the road after the stop and with SBG 6secs behind i was in for another epic battle! Think i need to hire the GT1 vitaphone mechanics as they seem to perform miracles as well!

There was no way i could get past Prof who hadn't stopped and SBG was charging behind me. It was only the interuption of a GT1 that helped SBG and I to get past but it was a bit hairy through craners then! I think you both tripped overyourselves to let the GT1 through which helped me get a run.

Then had another epic duel at the end of the race but by then I was really struggling and with a few laps to go SBG got past. Never thought i'd be racing SBG at the beggining :)

For me this season has been amazing, I've had some amazing races, I've surprised myself with some races and actually had some amazing racing with others. A big thanks to everyone who raced this season for making it a brilliant one, not to mention Dave and Picnic for sorting out the server and nursing it to health at times ;D

I think the GT1 was me. :) I was going to wait as you were all having an epic scrap, but then you all seemed to go wide into T1 and I took my chance to get away from the melee. ;)

Well that was a totally undeserved 3rd from me, my car was horrible and way off the pace. Just couldn't get the Ford right for this track. I couldn't even catch the Lister in front of me when he spent a whole couple of laps warming his tyres up lol, and i doubt i would of got passed H@l and TT if they hadn't of had their coming together.

The drivers championship was never in doubt, Freq was always going to win it unless he would of binned it or had a disco but I'm very happy to have come 2nd with a pretty consistant season and glad i made a fight of it.

Bit miffed we lost out on the team championship, but 2nd is very good considering we only had 2 drivers for 95% of the season.

Grats Freq and legzy, Team Shark and Team oldie.


I might not be around for a while as i need to get this lagging thing sorted. Tested my pc on h@l's line and it looks like its something on my pc so gunna reformat the whole thing or get another hard disk to test.

Cya soon.