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Title: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 30, 2009, 03:17:23 PM +0100
This Event may be going ahead despite the recent Lobby connection problems. It depends on how many off you are able to connect. Please do the poll so we know if we have a race or not. For details of the connection fixes please go HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6869.msg119486#msg119486)

All members welcome.


Track: Bathurst download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_bathurst)
Time of Day Setting: 04:00 Night race

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (15 mins)
Race: 20:35 20 laps (50 mins)

Grid/server capacity:28

Cars allowed: BMW CSL, Ford Escort RS, Fiat Abarth 131 GT (Available here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_abarth131)) Porsche 914

Server: UKGTL Classic Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=210;theme=5)
(4) This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

This is a Drivers Choice track and was proposed by Blunder. If you have a circuit or circuit/car combo that you think would be suitable for a future event please send a pm to Legzy and Wiltshire Tony.

We have a Plan B alternative race lined up in case we don't get enough votes to go ahead with the GTL event. The alternative fixture will be P&G Gr.2 & Gr.5 cars at Goodwood (GTR2 downloads). We will confirm which event is GO at 18:00(ish)  


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Alex vV on September 18, 2009, 09:41:32 PM +0100
NIGHT race at Bathurst ??!!  :eek:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 18, 2009, 09:58:37 PM +0100
oooooooh that's gonna hurt ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 19, 2009, 12:43:33 PM +0100
My CSL will need extra lights then... ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 19, 2009, 12:57:30 PM +0100
All Prodigy cars glow in the dark

Porsche 914 added.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on September 21, 2009, 09:23:11 PM +0100
Is there anyway of improving the lights of the BMW.  Having learnt the track I tried a few laps at 1am, only to find that "someone had moved all the corners"   ::) ::)  More powerful lights would help I'm sure.

Also is there any chance of the 'quickies' posting their lap time, especially if in the BMW. :thumbup1:

I'm hopeful of making this my 'return race' having at long last finished my therapy.  Mind you 'Bathurst in the Dark' could well mean we will all need some kind of therapy by the time its over.   :whistling: :w00t:

Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 21, 2009, 09:54:37 PM +0100
I think this is the one you're thinking of Laurie.......

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=7396


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: dynosaur on September 22, 2009, 12:49:35 PM +0100
Welcome back Laurie!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on September 22, 2009, 12:56:27 PM +0100
Also is there any chance of the 'quickies' posting their lap time, especially if in the BMW. :thumbup1:

That'll be PR then :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on September 22, 2009, 08:36:59 PM +0100
Thanks for link to the lights download 57GTop - installed and have managed a few sub 2:40sec laps in a race with AI's (best so far 2:38.8).   Also thanks dynasaur I'm begining to feel more like my old self and starting to do a bit of race practice each day.

While downloading the lights from NoGrip I saw the Porsche 917 mod so have DLed that as well.  Not had a chance to try it yet but has anyone tried it out.  I did notice a note from PR re this mod - so whats your verdict Paulo?

Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 24, 2009, 11:09:43 AM +0100
Hi Laurie, great to see you again.  ;)
I might have a run this weekend on Bathurst and after that I will post some times.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 24, 2009, 09:52:54 PM +0100
Laurie, just have done 2 laps and made it in 2.23.7xx
Not a very good setup tho, car is locking tires a bit and drifting exiting corners.  ::)


I haven't tried 917 mod yet.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 29, 2009, 09:50:24 AM +0100
errr, I've been on the server. That was a lot easier then I thought  :-[

I know it's been writen before, but this is what I did:
1)
Stick this file in your "C:\GTL" folder. http://www.humyo.com/F/9349539-1469477767
2) Fire up GTL as normal, then go to multiplayer.
3) Connect to IP (not lobby)
4) Add the IP to connect to (81.19.209.165).
4a) Log in (this looks like when you log into the lobby, it's suggested you use a password that you don't use elsewhere)
5) Click on the server & you're in (after a brief wait) :D

With that fix, there is no need to touch your host file (unless you've already changed it, then you would need to remove the GTL changes you did).

p.s. cheers for your effort on this Tony (& Ade for his guidance last night)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on September 29, 2009, 09:58:17 AM +0100
Yeah it's a piece of Plaice. It's worth noting that there's actually another step between 4 and 5 when it asks you to log in. Also, when you perform step 5 - as Tony mentioned, it'll sit there for 5 seconds (for me closer to 10) while it's "searching", after which you'll see the name of the server in the list ready for selection.


EDIT by Legzy - Cheers Oily, now updated above.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 29, 2009, 10:27:28 AM +0100
Don't forget to type a nonsense password in at step 4a, not your real lobby password and definitely not a password you use for anything else. ;) Personally I use "bwahahaha". :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 11:05:34 AM +0100
I probably will use a full lirycs of a Beatle's song password, maybe "All My Loving"   :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 29, 2009, 11:24:30 AM +0100
Had a few laps online last night in the lightweight CSL. Laptimes just uder 1.30s. I've also had a couple of laps offline in the dark and it's not as scary as I thought it would be, so don't be put off :)

Hope to be on the server later tonight if I'm not too beat after Portamao.

My password: "tie me kangaroo down...sport" (no bondage references please) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 03:00:05 PM +0100

1) [/b] Stick this file in your "C:\GTL" folder. http://www.humyo.com/F/9349539-1469477767
2) Fire up GTL as normal, then go to multiplayer.
3) Connect to IP (not lobby)
4) Add the IP to connect to (81.19.209.165).
4a) Log in (this looks like when you log into the lobby, it's suggested you use a password that you don't use elsewhere)
5) Click on the server & you're in (after a brief wait) :D

With that fix, there is no need to touch your host file (unless you've already changed it, then you would need to remove the GTL changes you did).

p.s. cheers for your effort on this Tony (& Ade for his guidance last night)

I don't understand. I downloaded the file but all I get is an IP (85.214.139.23) where to do I
have to put this? To the host file?

Thanks


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Ade on September 29, 2009, 03:14:25 PM +0100
Just put it in your GTL  folder PR.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on September 29, 2009, 03:29:03 PM +0100
Will the server be up this evening as I'd like to check I can connect having put the file into theGTL folder

Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 29, 2009, 03:33:59 PM +0100
I don't understand. I downloaded the file but all I get is an IP (85.214.139.23) where to do I
have to put this? To the host file?
Don't touch the file, just save it to your C:\GTL folder. Then fire up the game & go to multiplayer. The you get the option to access with the "lobby" or a "LAN/IP" connection... you want the "LAN/IP" connection. Then there will be a button to "add IP address", click on that & type in "81.19.209.165". Once you've done that, you can probably work out the rest  :) (but let us know if you can't)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 29, 2009, 03:35:21 PM +0100
Will the server be up this evening as I'd like to check I can connect having put the file into theGTL folder
It is up & will be up apart from between 7:45pm to 9:45pm tonight Laurie.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 04:24:59 PM +0100
Thanks guys, I was going inside the folder.  ::)
All steps done right this time.
I can join now but I get a no games avaiable.  :P
Do I have to change any HOST file IP?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Ade on September 29, 2009, 04:40:57 PM +0100
no need to change your host files, just click on add ip address in game and type in 81.19.209.165


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 29, 2009, 04:50:11 PM +0100
Do I have to change any HOST file IP?
no need to change your host files, just click on add ip address in game and type in 81.19.209.165

Ade is correct, unless you have previously made any changes to the Host file? (I think ;))

If you have previously added any lines to your host file (i.e. 127.0.0.1 localhost www.gtl-server.net), you need to remove them to use this fix method  :).
Also, if you had anti-deco installed, I think that needs to be uninstalled too? Hopefully someone will confirm.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 05:26:14 PM +0100
no need to change your host files, just click on add ip address in game and type in 81.19.209.165

That is what I did.

I believe most of us installed the anti-deco patch Legzy. I'm not at home can someone tell me please
how do I unistall it? And it is enough to remove the local host adress?
Now I'm really confused. Damn noob...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on September 29, 2009, 05:27:34 PM +0100
Just tried it and connected no problem


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Blunder on September 29, 2009, 05:28:57 PM +0100
Tony,

Big apology, gonna miss this one!
I can't tell you how gutted I am to miss this one!
I love Bathurst and have banged on about it for ages!
I think Legzy ears were ringing!  ;D
Finally we get to race it and I can't make it!
Have fun guys!

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Ade on September 29, 2009, 06:08:10 PM +0100
PR have a look in your GTL folder, there should be an anti deco uninstall icon, double click on it and it should delete it ( just check it hasn't left a file with RUBY in the name) if it has delete it, you may have to drag and drop it out of your GTL folder to desktop and then delete it (i know i did) then have a look in your host file and delete the ip address that the last fix wrote in there should read something like this xxx.xxx.xx localhost www.gtl-server.net , should work OK after that.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 06:40:56 PM +0100
Thanks Ade, I will do what you sugested, tonight.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 29, 2009, 08:18:14 PM +0100
You DO NOT need to uninstall antideco. You don't actually need your default hosts file as the .txt download circumvents it's use.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 08:53:59 PM +0100
 :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 29, 2009, 09:03:17 PM +0100
What have you done and what has happened?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 09:06:26 PM +0100
What have you done and what has happened?

I just done Legzy's indications.
D/L the LOCAL_IP_LOBBY file and drop it to GTL folder.
When trying to join the lobby after IP ADRESS typed, the lobby after a few searching seconds
tells me that no games avaiable
Tried to refresh on the ADD IP ADRESS tab but didn't work either.
 
BTW I don't have Anti-Deco installed.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 29, 2009, 09:12:40 PM +0100
GTL will not be running at the moment as another race event is happening.

Try again after Portimao has finished ;)

BTW what you have done is fine so far. You don't need antideco installed if you have downloaded LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 09:15:02 PM +0100
I will try later then, thanks. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 29, 2009, 09:18:18 PM +0100
No probs. I'll keep looking in to see if you've managed a connection.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 29, 2009, 09:45:48 PM +0100
The server is now up. I'm on it, Ade & Oily joining & Spanner too shortly. Hope to see you too PR  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Geoffers on September 29, 2009, 10:20:25 PM +0100
If any of you guys still have the antideco patch installed or the previous modded host file fix that GC came up with, they will still work OK. You just need to be able to connect to the UKGTL server, how you do it doesn't matter.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: spanner on September 29, 2009, 10:22:06 PM +0100
Well i still cant get in, plus if i'm on TS at the same time it chucks me off it when i try and exit GTL and i cant log back in to TS after about 10 mins.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 29, 2009, 10:48:25 PM +0100
I still get no games avaiable message.

Maybe I have to change my IP host file?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on September 30, 2009, 01:31:09 PM +0100
I've got my time down to 1:31 in the 914. It's the only one of the cars I felt I could almost drive round here  :)
Will be on the server tonight from 8:30pm hopefully.


I still get no games avaiable message.
In a different thread, Dave suggested:
(at stage-4, try adding "games.simracing.org.uk" instead of the IP address (81.19.209.165).

Don't really know it it will help or not PR, but I don't think you are the only one struggling. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: API on September 30, 2009, 03:55:02 PM +0100
I have also some problems with finding the server. Sometimes it finds it but usually it just says "No Games Available". Strange.  ???

I've followed the instructions but they don't seem to work.  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 30, 2009, 05:25:58 PM +0100
I've got my time down to 1:31 in the 914. It's the only one of the cars I felt I could almost drive round here  :)
Will be on the server tonight from 8:30pm hopefully.


I still get no games avaiable message.
In a different thread, Dave suggested:
(at stage-4, try adding "games.simracing.org.uk" instead of the IP address (81.19.209.165).

Don't really know it it will help or not PR, but I don't think you are the only one struggling. :-\


Didn't work either with the name Legzy.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 30, 2009, 07:17:26 PM +0100
Although this contradicts what I said in an earlier post...........

Please try this Remove "81.3.59.61 www.gtl-server.net" from your hosts file (Located in C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 30, 2009, 07:21:31 PM +0100
Can you all reply to the poll at the top of this page.

Just to give us an idea of how many can/cannot connect.

Thanks

L&WT


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on September 30, 2009, 07:58:00 PM +0100
Although this contradicts what I said in an earlier post...........

Please try this Remove "81.3.59.61 www.gtl-server.net" from your hosts file (Located in C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc).

Tried that aswell, didn't work either.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: baracus250gt on September 30, 2009, 07:58:29 PM +0100
Hi everyone!
I had some time for racing today so thought I would try getting on the server again.

Seems I can get in after a bit of fiddling (removing traces of my last attempt with Antideco) but it's quite random if the game shows up or not... sometimes it's there and sometimes not.

I assume nobody else is practicing tonight becuase the time I did get on I was alone (thinking it is Thursday so I'm a day ahead of myself!) but then when I tried to log back in the game wasn't listed ("no games found").

I'm using the TXT file in the GTL folder option as I had all sorts of fun and games with the other method + Vista.

Hope to see you on track soon!
Cheers,
Baracus


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Sandor M on September 30, 2009, 08:47:29 PM +0100
Had no problem at all logging in with the Local_IP_LOBBY file.
did some laps with a few of us and noticed that the walls are very close  ;)
Could be fun in the dark


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Ade on September 30, 2009, 08:55:48 PM +0100
Ive voted yes but it does make me wait 5-10 min's after putting in the practice password ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 30, 2009, 09:02:25 PM +0100
How odd is that?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: lazlow on September 30, 2009, 09:11:01 PM +0100
Text File patch worked for me :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 30, 2009, 09:36:20 PM +0100
Please note: If we do not get, what we consider to be, enough drivers able to connect, we will cancel this GTL event and replace it with a P&G Gr.5 and Gr.2 race at Goodwood.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 30, 2009, 09:59:37 PM +0100
I've no problems connecting.

I entered my hosts file adding the  85.214.139.23   server IP and deleted the others that were already present in the file. I entered the game, added our IP and bingo. I later changed my password as advised again with no problems.

Might the issues be caused by other IP addresses not being deleted in the hosts file?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: spanner on September 30, 2009, 10:03:48 PM +0100
adding the ukgtl ip address to the hosts file?

Do you have the local_ip_lobby text file Goldtop?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 30, 2009, 10:06:04 PM +0100
sorry spanner not the UKGTL IP - see the edit


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: spanner on September 30, 2009, 10:13:06 PM +0100
Oh, ok ta GT. I'm trying to find some straws so i can blindly clutch them!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 30, 2009, 10:21:48 PM +0100
Here are the instructions which worked (and are still working) for me.....

http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87225&postcount=20

which have since been superceded by these.................

http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87589#post87589

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 30, 2009, 10:31:29 PM +0100
Hey GT sounds like you have used a bit off both solutions. If I have understood your message correctly your saying that you haven't downloaded the local_ip_lobby text file but have added the IP address 85.214.139.23 into your lobby file and not used anti deco icon launch. Yes?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: spanner on September 30, 2009, 10:38:26 PM +0100
I dont think its any different as i thought the local_ip_lobby text file overrid any address in the hosts file.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on September 30, 2009, 11:12:04 PM +0100
Hey GT sounds like you have used a bit off both solutions. If I have understood your message correctly your saying that you haven't downloaded the local_ip_lobby text file but have added the IP address 85.214.139.23 into your lobby file and not used anti deco icon launch. Yes?

That's correct Tony. Never used the anti deco patch and manually rewrote my hosts file.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: baracus250gt on September 30, 2009, 11:30:12 PM +0100
I voted NO but changing that to YES! :)

If the blisters on my hands allow, I will see you tomorrow. That track is a killer!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: lazlow on October 01, 2009, 12:19:07 AM +0100
That track is a killer!

You should try driving in the pitch black :o....Absolute carnage!!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: lazlow on October 01, 2009, 12:37:57 AM +0100
IMO I think this race should start at 4am....it is still dark....and at least if anyone looses their headlights early on, they will be able to see where they are going later on in the race. Otherwise I think it will be hard to lap around here in the pitch black, and could lead to there being a huge pile up in the twisty sections of the track....which wouldn't be good for anyone :(

Just my thoughts.

Laz


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Ade on October 01, 2009, 01:08:00 AM +0100
Ti's dark :o cant see anything with my mirrors so watch out behind ;D
Its all fun til someone loses a bollock  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 01, 2009, 08:52:27 AM +0100
Really not a fan of Bathurst myself so pretty unlikely to attend tonight. The thought of driving around a track I don't like, haven't mastered, is only just wide enough for one car and all this in the dark is a bit of a turn-off. IMHO it's one of those "historic" circuits (Nord & Le Mans style), that isn't actually very good fun to race at.

Hope you enjoy it, see you next time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: API on October 01, 2009, 09:50:24 AM +0100
Still not working. It seems like I'm out this one then.  :'(

Have fun.  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 01, 2009, 09:51:27 AM +0100
Still not working. It seems like I'm out this one then.  :'(

Have you removed the www.gtl-server.net line from your hosts file?

I also had to use games.simracing.org.uk to connect to rather than the server IP address.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on October 01, 2009, 10:51:36 AM +0100
Still not working. It seems like I'm out this one then.  :'(

Have you removed the www.gtl-server.net line from your hosts file?

I also had to use games.simracing.org.uk to connect to rather than the server IP address.

Nothing have worked for me.  :(
BTW inside my 'etc' file (where the HOSTS file is, I have 3 HOST "books".
One called HOSTS, one called HOSTSBACKUP2377653..... and one called HOST.
I've been changing the HOSTS one, is that correct?  :blink:
Can someone remotly work in my PC? I would love to race tonight.  :yes:

BTW, I will be at home today between 14.30 and 15.30.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on October 01, 2009, 11:15:53 AM +0100
it's one of those "historic" circuits (Nord & Le Mans style), that isn't actually very good fun to race at.

As a wise man once said, poppycock! 

It's tight in places but catch a V8 supercars race and tell me it's not good for overtaking, with those long drags out of tight corners and big stopping zones there's more than enough to scope to pass, you're missing out mate but cheers for the uplifting post LOL.

It's a daunting challenge alright but it's events like this that spice up proceedings IMO. Can't want...just hope we can get the CSL master sorted in time.

PR - I'm at work now but can try and help later....home about 6PM GMT.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on October 01, 2009, 11:55:32 AM +0100
I will be at home also after 7.15 PM.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 12:07:07 PM +0100
It's midday & we have 13 "yes" votes.
If we get just two more votes, committed & able to join tonight, this race will go ahead.
If not, we will proceed with the PnG fun event @Goodwood.

We'll do our best to give an official verdict as soon after 5pm as possible, but if it gets to 15 yes votes, you'll already know it's on.


Lastly, if you still can't connect, please tell us what happens, what you've tried & if you tried any of the previous patches/fixes already? If we/anybody can help you, they will :)

Tony & Chris


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: API on October 01, 2009, 12:37:23 PM +0100
Have you removed the www.gtl-server.net line from your hosts file?

I also had to use games.simracing.org.uk to connect to rather than the server IP address.

I tried what you suggested but that didn't help. :( It seems strange that I've tried to find the server during the week about 50 times and I've seen it twice on the list. ???

Anyway, thanks for the tip Simon.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on October 01, 2009, 12:47:16 PM +0100
Yeah that is odd API, I'm using the IP and it's rock solid - has connected every time. Perhaps it's a conflict with another service?

Ade mentioned this not so long ago, it saves memory by clearing down the background services, worth having anyway, I use it every race but I wonder if it might help in some way - http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

I know it's a bit drastic but these people having issues, is it worth reinstalling do you think? You can still copy across the GameData folder and PLR so it's not too much of a pain but that might at least eliminate any issues caused by legacy files?? Not sure if its good advice but its definitely what I'd do if I was running out of options.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: dynosaur on October 01, 2009, 01:02:18 PM +0100
My antivirus program informed me of some Trojan or some other virus after installing this Gamebooster, I got rid of it very soon after that. Might be a false alert though...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on October 01, 2009, 02:41:49 PM +0100
Still not working. It seems like I'm out this one then.  :'(

Have you removed the www.gtl-server.net line from your hosts file?

I also had to use games.simracing.org.uk to connect to rather than the server IP address.

Nothing have worked for me.  :(
BTW inside my 'etc' file (where the HOSTS file is, I have 3 HOST "books".
One called HOSTS, one called HOSTSBACKUP2377653..... and one called HOST.
I've been changing the HOSTS one, is that correct?  :blink:

Can someone remotly work in my PC? I would love to race tonight.  :yes:

BTW, I will be at home today between 14.30 and 15.30.

Any advice for what I have in bolt please?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Tim Robey on October 01, 2009, 03:10:42 PM +0100
It's midday & we have 13 "yes" votes.
If we get just two more votes, committed & able to join tonight, this race will go ahead.
If not, we will proceed with the PnG fun event @Goodwood.

Tony & Chris

I have not had a chance to try to connect to the server, will try tonight at about 7pm.

I've been snowed under at work this week, so I've not had a chance to practice. I might join, depending on how tired I feel...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 01, 2009, 04:27:39 PM +0100
Any advice for what I have in bolt please?

The "hosts" one is the only one Windows looks at. It should now only contain the "127.0.0.1 localhost" entry - nothing about GTL servers.

Then put the LOBBY_IP_LOBBY.TXT file into your GTL directory. It should contain only "85.214.139.23", i.e. the Gamers' Crib server address.

Then launch GTL, go to Multiplayer, Direct IP, click "Add IP Address", enter bogus username and password, wait a few seconds. Server should appear.

If you don't have Bathurst installed weird things may happen.

I've just tried it and it's fine. I did notice that the server was reporting "-1/27" for the number of drivers which seems a bit odd. :laugh:

I did warn them it wouldn't be as simple as they thought. :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 01, 2009, 04:33:42 PM +0100
ps. If you've got the LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT hack installed, it doesn't matter if there's an entry in your hosts file or not, it never gets that far.

Note that you must still join via direct IP - the lobby is not there and no amount of hackery will allow you to connect to or via it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on October 01, 2009, 04:43:09 PM +0100
Cheers for clearing that up Dave, that's actually a help knowing the txt file negates the need for the host file entry . I also got strange attendance figures, but that was when I didn't have the right track installed.

Have you got any idea what might be causing these issues - seems like there's hardly any scope for things to go wrong in terms of the hack itself. Ade's takes 10 mins to log in, API's seems to be intermittent, almost like network issues!?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on October 01, 2009, 04:49:05 PM +0100
In case some are wondering what should be in their hosts file, this is how the relevant part of mine looks....


127.0.0.1       localhost
::1             localhost
 
85.214.139.23 www.gtl-server.net


Not sure what the "::1" is all about and whether it should be there or not, but it works.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 01, 2009, 05:03:04 PM +0100
Not sure what the "::1" is all about and whether it should be there or not, but it works.

It's for IPv6 (which nobody uses ::) :D ).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 01, 2009, 05:05:03 PM +0100
Ade's takes 10 mins to log in, API's seems to be intermittent, almost like network issues!?

Could be. IMUIC, the game does lobby checks again when connected at intervals, so if the GC server isn't 100% perfect you might get dumped out as a result; if it doesn't happen with the 'pukka' anti-deco patch that would support that theory.

The long login I can't even begin to speculate on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on October 01, 2009, 05:20:57 PM +0100
Cheers Dave, I believe I have done that already, but I will try it again when I arrive home.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 05:25:51 PM +0100
We're still stuck on thirteen. That's right where we don't want it... a close call. :-\
We'll give the people with problems & people who don't know yet, till 6pm to get it working... or we're off to Goodwood (PnG).

You chaps struggling might want to try this out from Dave.

I've put together a teeny weeny little installer for the new text file "fix" which uses the GC fake lobby authentication, to help our less technically savvy members out.

Grab it here (http://www.humyo.com/F/9240347-1523718695).

It literally just puts the file into your GTL directory. If you've already got Direct IP working you don't need it.

Please let us know how you get on with the voting & remember to change your vote if you suddenly get it to work.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 06:40:19 PM +0100
This Race Is On!!!
We've hit 15 yes votes... see you all at Bathurst.

and race time changed to 04:00


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on October 01, 2009, 07:19:28 PM +0100
Think it was Legzy who mentioned the P914 was the only car he could get around the track.  Thought I'd give it a go and must say I found it more fun to drive than the CLS so have decided to use the P914.  Pleased to say I have ended up with a new best lap time as well.

Laurie




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on October 01, 2009, 07:30:59 PM +0100

and race time changed to 04:00

Bugger that's spoilt my strategy for tonight  :2guns:- My reasoning "as it makes no difference to my lap time if the lights are on or off, I figured if a few of you had a 'coming together' and lost your lights it would slow you to my pace and I would have some company"  Ah well the best laid plans of 'men and mice'  :whistling:      :jumpjoy:

See you later
Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: pribeiro on October 01, 2009, 07:35:08 PM +0100
I have done everything posted on this thread. It just don't work.
Have fun guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: dynosaur on October 01, 2009, 08:08:03 PM +0100
I just lost connection with the host, so probably better to stay off if the connection is as unstable as it seems.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dan Minton on October 01, 2009, 08:41:18 PM +0100
A night race a Bathurst!!   cmon thats just silly. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Geoffers on October 01, 2009, 08:55:22 PM +0100
Big apologies to anyone who got involved with my 1st lap crash :hang:

I quit as soon as I realised I had come to rest in the middle of the road  :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Madd-RIP on October 01, 2009, 09:25:24 PM +0100
not amused  >:( :nono:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 09:44:34 PM +0100
Great Track, rubbish race. >:(

Was behind Geoffers crash & I managed to stop to avoid him... the car behind then piled into me, pushing me into Geoffers. I got going again pretty quick, but my suspension & body was shot so had to pit for 10mins repair ::).
Once repaired I left the pits, only to receive a 'stop/go' for speeding (I forgot to repress the pit limiter after my stop). >:( >:(
Went round again & pitted to serve my penalty... exited & got another 'stop/go' for speeding. I'd done the same thing  :taz: :taz: :taz:

Continued, but not sure why I bothered, especially after I span the car about 8 times myself  :no:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: goldtop on October 01, 2009, 09:45:48 PM +0100
That was a tough race.

Never really got a clear run in quali but managed to get back 2 or 3 places off the line. Managed to sit in behind the front group and gained a couple of places through early incidents. Made a couple of errors myself which meant I drove most of the race with no lights :eek: Then about 6 or 7 from home I damaged my suspension but fortunately by then the gap behind was big enough to ease off a little.

Congrats to pody and all those who finished :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 01, 2009, 09:46:34 PM +0100
My idea for the night race here so all abusive pm's to me solely please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: LigelC on October 01, 2009, 09:48:16 PM +0100
In one way a total disaster as someone blocked the track at the start and I lost a lot of time getting back to chase the pack.  Still I pressed on and was really enjoying it until I managed to jump to the inside of the track and couldn't find a way back to the road - left and watched the rest of the race by sitting in each car.  
While doing this I noticed that Tony (and at least one other) actually found a way back on to the road to allow them to continue.  There were some great battles thoughout the race and I congatulate Baracus (master class demo of consistancy) and the rest of the podium.  I also take my hat off to all the finishers you put on a great show.  I would like to think we could have another night race next season (or even two) as it was such fun.

Laurie


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Phil Gilliland on October 01, 2009, 09:51:55 PM +0100
While doing this I noticed that Tony (and at least one other) actually found a way back on to the road to allow them to continue.

That may have been me. But it took me 7 minutes the first time and 4 minutes the second, finishing 5 laps down but at least finishing.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: dynosaur on October 01, 2009, 09:52:18 PM +0100
Grats to podium, and all who finished. Thanks for the gentlemen who let me pass without incidents. I didnĀ“t have time to practise at all, it showed a couple times when I overshot the nearing turns and got too close to the car in front and therefore had a few "situations". Tyres were holding up pretty nicely and I am glad I could finish the race in one piece.

Great drive by all of the podium racers!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Tim Robey on October 01, 2009, 10:03:43 PM +0100
A poor race from me, hardly any practice is my excuse and I struggled to get any kind of rhythm going.

I managed to avoid the big crash on lap 1 by spinning as I saw the blockage, to end up by the barrier so most guys could pass.

I spent the whole race racing my teamie Alex, he was about 20s ahead but I only caught him with 3 laps to go, I had far too many spins and offs. At one stage I went over a barrier, but made it back onto the track by driving my BMW off a cliff  :o dunno what I was thinking.....  :nono: good job I didn't land on anybody!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Dan Minton on October 01, 2009, 10:49:37 PM +0100
Appolgioes on my start and rejoin ..couldnt see a thing.    Matt was that you i drove into when i rejoined if so im sorry  :-[ but i thought all the cars had gone.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: baracus250gt on October 01, 2009, 11:14:58 PM +0100
That went surprisingly well and I'm really satisfied for my 1st race in far too long!
I had a good chunk of practice last night but I was using the slow CSL for that assuming the fast one would not be allowed! Thankfully there was hardly any difference in the gearing and the feel - I just gave it a notch up on the front spring strength to help the front during the turns (understeery beast!) but due to the setup I had sorted yesterday it felt great! (Softest rear anti-roll bar I found helped massively!).

I watched this great vid of Bathurst just before the race today which really got me in the mood. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGGBh9-0lyM 
Note how cautiously he takes it, well... that was the mentality I went into this race with after my many many crashes last night!

It worked! I never thought in a million years I would make the whole race without a wipeout but I found myself in the zone and it felt well under control! I didn't push too hard, concentrated loads and felt relaxed like I haven't felt for a looong time! Think I made about 3 mistakes but all luckily in places that weren't lethal :) Outbraked myself into last turn quite early on losing about 4 seconds. Ran wide ansd scraped a wall a bit and had a scary moment on the exit kerb of the 2nd fast left hander which could have been really nasty!

I was hating this track last night but really got into it today. I think it has a really nice flow and you really do have to drive every bend. Loved it! Night was interesting too but I bet I wouldn't be saying that if I'd smashed my lights!

So I assume the domain for the official lobby is never going to be renewed? They would have done it by now if they were going to...

See you next week pleeps thanks for the fun & good to see you all again :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 11:28:27 PM +0100
Replay & Results in usual places


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Sandor M on October 02, 2009, 08:50:12 AM +0100
Was behind Geoffers crash & I managed to stop to avoid him... the car behind then piled into me, pushing me into Geoffers. I got going again pretty quick, but my suspension & body was shot so had to pit for 10mins repair ::).

Sorry Legzy, That must have been me .  Breaked hard but slipped against you. Have to check the replay to see if I could have avoided it.
Wanted to wait but it was just too narrow overthere so decided to drive on. report will come after i've seen the replay.

Race itself was good but lonely . Had some company the first 3/4 laps and after that is was just me , myself and I . Gap in front was increasing to 40 secs and gap behind was also increasing to more that one minute .
Crashed the car 3 times but luckily it stayed drivable till the end.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Andy Charman on October 02, 2009, 12:54:07 PM +0100
Couldn't race last night, had been on a PC most of the day and my mince pies weren't up to it, especially a night race. 8) :P
Twas a shame as I really like Bathurst but didn't think the GTL conversion looked very good.
Hope you all had fun, see ya next week.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: mr_oily on October 02, 2009, 01:34:01 PM +0100
You missed an intense one Andy - seriously that was just maximum concentration throughout, seriously tough!

One of the trickiest races i can remember - fair play Tony, bold combination there - I know it was contentious but seriously, I loved it. Even without headlights I thought it was driveable so hats off mate...you can't say its one we'll forget in a hurry!

Car choice for me was a bugger here for some reason, I switched backwards and forwards all the time I was practising. Loved the Escort as always but the gearing didn't seem to be right and I was convinced the Beemer would carp on it (yeah, might have been wrong there :)). Couldn't decide between the lightweight and the heavy CSL in the end, I was quicker in the lightweight but I could see Jim was a lot faster after he switched to the heavy. Also couldn't decide between a couple of setups...in the end I switched cars in practice and even switched the setup completely after qually had finished LOL. Golden rules somewhat broken!

The race setup felt slightly better but I really didn't have the feel you need to get all racey, I could deal with it in the corners and on the power but on the brakes there was this constant threat of locking the rears M1A style and I spent the race living in fear of it...pushing ever so slightly more each lap. I knew qualifying in 7th it was going to be a damage limitation exercise but despite two or three mistakes, I think some consistency eventually and problems for others handed me back a chance to fight for a podium. Great drive to the line Jim, thought I had a whisper of a chance but wasn't to be.

Those early laps were interesting though, haven't seen the replay yet but I remember being all over Lazlow on the first lap which was odd as he was miles faster in qually but he soon settled into a rhythm and disappeared off. I really couldn't tell you much else, the whole crazy affair was just a blur. I remember tussles with various different people including Dyno, Madd and Ade but the second anything happened it went straight to the back of my mind while I concentrated on keeping the Beemer in a straight line...not enough capacity to think about both clearly!

Anyway, I think we were totally outclassed by Bara and his damn inspirational YouTube vid this time around (that was blinding by the way mate! should have watched prior) - I think only PR would have given him a run for his money. Unluckly Madd - couldn't believe the pace of the Escort in the hands of you and Mr. Minton, not the way I'd want to make the podium given the choice but I was surprised to make it to the end myself quite honestly, even had me headlights intact!

Massive thanks to the backmarkers I came across, there was the potential for this to be a nightmare but everyone made it so easy, without appearing to compromise your own races too much so muchos respectos  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Round 10 - Bathurst, Australia - Oct 1st
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 23, 2010, 03:44:00 PM +0100
Incident moderating for this event is now completed. If you need to discuss this please use pm.