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Title: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 06, 2005, 02:25:43 PM +0100
Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5 at Donington Park

Date: Sunday 18th September

Practice 1: 8:30pm (30 mins)
Qual 2: 9:00pm (30 mins)
Warmup: 9:30pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:32pm (60 mins)

Cars allowed: Any. (Seat Toledo will not be eligable for points.)
Weather: Random (via dual-dice throw and sophisticated weather table ;))

Notes:
(1) Please try to arrive at least 15 minutes prior to qualifying, during Practice 1.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for each championship. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Season 1 Info (http://www.ukgtr.org/lm2-report.php?group=1&content=series103) for general Season 1 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: popabawa on September 06, 2005, 03:26:57 PM +0100
On holiday for this one.

Dammit, Tyf's gonna pull out some points on me  :'(


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: [ZiP]Tyf on September 06, 2005, 04:47:43 PM +0100
No worries m8 I've not picked a new ISP yet and will be offline from last day of September :D. Which will give me some nice relaxing time I hope without this urge/urch/urghe (? ;) where's the spell checker Dave?! Grrr ;)) to constantly check fora and other online crap! :D

T


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Nick Phillips on September 13, 2005, 10:35:40 PM +0100
Wont be racing I'm afraid, moving house this Thursday and broadband does not arrive till Tuesday


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 14, 2005, 11:25:28 PM +0100
Think I'll get the Beamer out for this one, might be able to keep up with some of the normal NGTs at Doningon as it's all about carrying corner speed.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 15, 2005, 07:51:00 AM +0100
Think I'll get the Beamer out for this one, might be able to keep up with some of the normal NGTs at Doningon as it's all about carrying corner speed.

Oh gawd I'm going to be beaten by him!


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Truetom on September 15, 2005, 07:55:45 AM +0100
What's a Beamer?


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: picnic on September 15, 2005, 07:59:05 AM +0100
What's a Beamer?

Nickname for BMW here in the UK


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Truetom on September 15, 2005, 11:49:37 AM +0100
Ah, so desu! Domo, Picnic san!   ;D


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Jamera on September 17, 2005, 09:38:02 AM +0100
Ah, so desu! Domo, Picnic san!   ;D

Errrrr, yes!!!!!


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: rufbtr on September 18, 2005, 06:59:48 PM +0100
think i might join in G3 series. if my wife doesn't have anything else planned.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: greg130 on September 18, 2005, 08:08:43 PM +0100
think i might join in G3 series. if my wife doesn't have anything else planned.

Would be great to see a full grid with the div1 guys taking the G3 cars out. 


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: JonM_uk on September 18, 2005, 10:17:14 PM +0100
Well my first race in a BMW was tough. Got a pb in qually though  ;D
The race was a bit of a mare for me, spun 3-4 times but was going along OK I thought but about mid race my FPS dropped suddenly. It wasn't undrivable but just kinda stuttering so i drove on a few laps but found it hard to concentrate on the monitor and was starting to drive all over the place, after my last spin thought best to press escape and avoid any collisions  ;) Me mate getting married yesterday probably didn't help the concentration either(lots of free wine)  ;D
Hope you all had a good race, time to rest my eyes.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Truetom on September 18, 2005, 10:42:42 PM +0100
Was driving a Seat, I really like this car, has a nice balance to it - if setup right. Was trying to keep up with the GTs. They only lapped me once, lol!  ;)

P.S. Just lapping Shark and Jon was worth being there.  ;D


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: as-here on September 18, 2005, 10:44:14 PM +0100
sorry to dave gymer for hitting you at the esses was not even try to pass brake problems will accept what ever punishment given


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 18, 2005, 10:49:43 PM +0100
Was driving a Seat, I really like this car, has a nice balance to it - if setup right. Was trying to keep up with the GTs. They only lapped me once, lol!  ;)

P.S. Just lapping Shark and Jon was worth being there.  ;D

LOL. Nice one TT. Was scarey the 2 times you lapped me you just caught me up the hill after the old hairpin / craner curves and I decided to give you room to take me up the hill but the second time was real close, precision driving.

Early part of the race for me was the main excitement as I had to avoiding spinning cars left right and centre. Couple of times failing to stop in time with car or getting hit from someone else also failing to stop. Just racing.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 18, 2005, 11:22:29 PM +0100
sorry to dave gymer for hitting you at the esses was not even try to pass brake problems will accept what ever punishment given

Figured you just missed your braking point - wasn't best pleased but seeing Zip-Tyf's pace at the end I don't think I could've mounted a challenge, even with a fully healthy car. Once again I put far too much fuel in - I really should know by now how frugal the Vertislow is. ::)

In some respects very pleased with my performance tonight - didn't make a single self-induced mistake; gave Maverick a love tap whilst trying to lap him, very very hard work in the Vertigo against a faster Porsche, luckily neither of us went off. Got rear ended by rufbtr in the Elise too - I had to brake early after lapping hi 'cause I was off line, but following him on a later lap at the same place I realised just how late that Elise brakes there. We did have a debate about whether we should allow the Elise at all because of the huge difference in speed, unfortunate that somebody should choose to take it at the track where it's probably hardest to safely lap people. :o


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Jamera on September 18, 2005, 11:34:30 PM +0100
Well I'm waiting for confirmation of my finish position, but I've gotta say I REALLY enjoyed that tonight. Qual 10th o/a 2nd in class I think. had a fairly steady race til just after mid way when I found the rears had bit the dust so had to pit for an unscheduled tyre change having put in more than enough fuel to do a non-stopper  :'(

Got back on the track to find I'd dropped from 7th to 10th behind Dave, what a bugger he is to get past, finally got the jump on him after we'd been lapped on the start finish straight. Thought "sweet, sit here now til the finish" so for a few laps dave follwed me round and round gaining time, losing time til I took TOO much kerb and went off. I then spent several laps trying to catch him again and off we went again, finaly taking him on the long straight before the chicane (hope I didn't force you wide there dave) then found that for the rest of the race I had brake fade, which made things a little dicey. Dave then took advantage of this and passed me after I'd span. Anyways a good race for me, far more consistant than I have been this season and hopefully some good "team" points too.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: ginsters sponsored on September 18, 2005, 11:52:47 PM +0100
That was really tricky. High number of G3's, and an elise  :-\, made for lots of lapping on a track where its so hard to do so. As always, everyone was trying to do the right things but there seemed few safe places to pass and things were really hairy at times.

No excuse for my stinker of a race though. One stupid spin probably cost me a place but I was never really up to speed. Congrats to Greg, I can see you, Zac and myself battling all the way to Monza. Nice to see the team have another good night.        


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: greg130 on September 19, 2005, 12:08:53 AM +0100
Well pleased with qualifying,  a pole which was a real shock, didnt expect that.

Decided to be extra cautious throughout the race, especially when lapping the slower cars.  Donington is not one of my best tracks, I seem to have developed the knack of falling off here, normaly manage it at least twice in any race.
Had a good start to the race but just couldnt shake off SBG, the gap kept going up and down with the backmarkers. I would pull out a slight lead then SBG would reel me back in again, great fun.  Unfortunatly SBG had a spin which enabled me to get the gap I needed to relax a little.
Went for a 1 stopper and rejoined after the pit with Blaz about 4 seconds behind me, christ where did he come from.
We had a good battle for a couple of laps but he had a spin which left me with a 10 sec gap and only 3 laps to go.  After that it was a case of bringing it home for my first endurance win of the season.

Well pleased with tonights work, didnt hit any backmarkers, didnt spin off(a rairity) and managed my first win in div 2.
Looking forward to Spa where the 3 way battle for the top spot in div 2 continues, this deffinatly looks like it will go to the wire at monza, great stuff.



Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 19, 2005, 07:39:15 AM +0100
I then spent several laps trying to catch him again and off we went again, finaly taking him on the long straight before the chicane (hope I didn't force you wide there dave) then found that for the rest of the race I had brake fade, which made things a little dicey.

Classic racing move - I gave you just enough room to come through, hoping I could pressure you into a spin on the exit of the Esses and retake the place but instead had to watch you just power away down to the Melbourne loop. ::) I thought it was tyres you were struggling with - didn't realise it was actually the brakes. :o


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: picnic on September 19, 2005, 08:08:10 AM +0100
Results and replays now available


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: rufbtr on September 19, 2005, 10:12:00 AM +0100
Had some fun in the elise, it was the slowest car on the track, but hell this car can brake so hard, that a lot of you probably where surpised when passing me before a curve, i was next to them in the curve.

I tried to make room for everybody who was faster (wasn't everybody faster  :D), fortunately i hit that vertigo, because he was braking very early, compared to the elises braking points. sorry for that.

after 30 mins, pc locked up, so i was outta you ways, and you could race without that moving roadblock on the track.

next time i will take a faster G3 car.



Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Wilier on September 19, 2005, 12:20:31 PM +0100
Did my first Endurance race and made the mistake of using a car Ive never raced before   ::)

Started off OK, left Shark behind and sat on Jam for a few laps then had the first of my many brain fade moments and spun off.
I think I must have left the track at least 6 times, nearly took Shark out at the chicane on Melbourne, started to brake (not intending to pass) and the car just lurched left onto the grass, came hurtling across the chicane just in front of Shark, but not collecting him.

Also had a dodgy moment when being lapped by teamie SBG, cought the kerb and clipped the side of him as he went past :o

I really need to concentrate on staying on the circuit but Im looking forward to the next one. :)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 19, 2005, 12:53:50 PM +0100
Started off OK, left Shark behind and sat on Jam for a few laps then had the first of my many brain fade moments and spun off.
I think I must have left the track at least 6 times, nearly took Shark out at the chicane on Melbourne, started to brake (not intending to pass) and the car just lurched left onto the grass, came hurtling across the chicane just in front of Shark, but not collecting him.

LOL. I did close my eyes then cause I didn't know whether to speed up, slow down or just go normal as I saw you dissapear from mirror. Slowed down a little and sort of waited for your car to either hit me or come past at a funny angle in front of me. Couldn't see you with left view but knew you had lost control and was very thankful when you came seering past my nose backwards missing me completely.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: ginsters sponsored on September 19, 2005, 01:06:44 PM +0100

Also had a dodgy moment when being lapped by teamie SBG, cought the kerb and clipped the side of him as he went past :o


LOL. I thought we went through it carefully at last team meet,  it was the other Listers you were meant to take out ::). Back to the drawing board.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Zacari on September 19, 2005, 01:25:27 PM +0100
It was certainly an eventful race!

Only managed to get a handful of laps in before the race with my new DFP (which is nice, but badly needs setting up properly), so I decided to qualify on race setup and get used to the car.

Started ok, but had a problem with the wheel and/or pedals whereby the car would either brake or just go idle at random, most noticable down the back straight and very annoying, (and a real problem when it happened in the hairpin!).  Spun 2 or 3 times because of that, and a couple of offs due to backmarkers.  Sorry, but the elise has no place in Enduro for me.  Trying to pass in the Craner Curves is not really possible and you lose so much time following through there it's just not funny!  I still think it'd be more sensible to have endurance GT and NGT, and sprints mixed, but there ya go.

If someone with a DFP could cut and paste the controller section of their .plr file that'd be greatly appreciated, as I know I changed mine lots for my old wheel. (I'll start a new thread elsewhere for it so we don't get off-topic  ;))

Grats to Greg for a good win, and SBG for (another!) good podium finish.  Gonna have to get some practice in if I'm gonna close that gap!


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 19, 2005, 07:43:40 PM +0100
I then spent several laps trying to catch him again and off we went again, finaly taking him on the long straight before the chicane (hope I didn't force you wide there dave) then found that for the rest of the race I had brake fade, which made things a little dicey.

Classic racing move - I gave you just enough room to come through, hoping I could pressure you into a spin on the exit of the Esses and retake the place but instead had to watch you just power away down to the Melbourne loop. ::) I thought it was tyres you were struggling with - didn't realise it was actually the brakes. :o

BTW if anyone wants to see a textbook pass, look at 3000 second into the server replay - Jamera starts the move with a good exit from Coppice, gets firmly ahead into the Esses, and gives me no opportunity to come back at him on the exit.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: aajay_uk on September 19, 2005, 07:58:38 PM +0100
Good race for me finish 5th. I would like to say that it was down to skill and a brilliant strategy; but then I would be lying. I tend to pick up positions due to other's misfortunes. Until Zacari's pit stop 6th was looking best for me over 1m up on 7th and some 30s behind Zacari. What happened in your pitstop mate? I ended up passing you twice before you came out of the pits.

My championship postion is all due to the good finish I had in the wet weather at Barcelona, as I seem to be about 2s a lap off the rest of the GT field and don't seem to get any faster. I practiced all fortnight at Doni, trying various set-ups and couldn't go any faster than around 1m 31 with any of them, this seems to be the case on all the circuits. My best time in qually was set in the closing minutes when I was running my race set up!

aajay_uk


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: silver53 on September 19, 2005, 11:02:47 PM +0100
Hi guys
i had to pull out as

i could not concentrate as I have chicken pox not very nice at 54.bye for now gerald



Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 20, 2005, 07:32:54 AM +0100
i could not concentrate as I have chicken pox not very nice at 54.bye for now gerald

Eeuuuw. Get well soon and don't give it to us! :P :P :P


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Zacari on September 20, 2005, 08:07:43 AM +0100
Until Zacari's pit stop 6th was looking best for me over 1m up on 7th and some 30s behind Zacari. What happened in your pitstop mate? I ended up passing you twice before you came out of the pits.

I had 2 stops, first one sheduled and I came out only 10s behind SBG who pitted on the same lap, the second was after an off indirectly caused by having to pass an NGT just after the Craner Curves and took over a minute and a half, (lost my front splitter hitting the wall)



Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: rufbtr on September 20, 2005, 08:23:31 AM +0100
pffwww Silver , i know what you are talking about, i had them when i was 33, not nice at all.  :'(

get well soon mate.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 20, 2005, 10:01:27 AM +0100
I had 2 stops, first one sheduled and I came out only 10s behind SBG who pitted on the same lap, the second was after an off indirectly caused by having to pass an NGT just after the Craner Curves and took over a minute and a half, (lost my front splitter hitting the wall)

That was me that was. You didn't have to pass me there :P though several did. Discretion, valour, etc etc. Lots of overdriving in that race which is how I picked up second in class.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Zacari on September 20, 2005, 10:20:47 AM +0100
lol I'll have to look at the replay but I don't think I had much choice, you pulled over to the right after the old hairpin which basically meant I had to go left and take too tight a line through Starkey's Bridge and I ended up unbalanced braking into McLeans.  Certainly not your fault in any case but I can't see how I could've not passed there.  Lapping cars anywhere in the first half of the lap is horrible at Donni anyway.

Weird really that I've never got on well there in GTR, any other game at Donnington (short or long) it's been one of my favourite tracks.  Looking forward to the longer race at Spa anyway  :)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 20, 2005, 10:23:24 AM +0100
lol I'll have to look at the replay but I don't think I had much choice, you pulled over to the right after the old hairpin which basically meant I had to go left and take too tight a line through Starkey's Bridge and I ended up unbalanced braking into McLeans.

You could've slowed down and not past me at all... ;)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Zacari on September 20, 2005, 10:29:18 AM +0100
Can't comment until I've seen the replay and my boss is hovering....  :P ;)

(i need a more secluded desk!)

I'd like to know what you'd have done if I'd braked and stayed behind you; in my mind when I was driving I had no option but to go past there and I doubt anyone else would've not gone through there in my position.  I'm not even sure I could've slowed down to stay behind you seen as you lifted and there was already a speed difference between us.

Really though you let me through there which I have no problem with, just one of those things really.  (I now know I was racing with faulty pedals anyway so that probably didn't help!)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: [ZiP]Tyf on September 20, 2005, 05:10:49 PM +0100
My first class win! Woohoo!  8)

Not playing a lot of GTR lately, so tried several different N-GT cars before the race, but turned out I was quickest in 'me ole mucker' the Bi-T. :D
Qualified 2nd in class behind Locutus (but since I just checked and he's 'locutos ukgtr En D1' he should have been in a different car? So I guess I get pole? :)) Had a fairly decent setup for the race as well getting close to my qualifying times ( .7 mph less :)) which gave me confidence for the race! :D

Tried for a 1 pitstop strategy, but a different one than at Brno, where I was in the pit for ages getting fuel as well. This time I ran with an almost full fuel load (100l lol) and only did a tyre change halfway through the race. Had a couple of hairy moments, didn't we all? ;) Span off when rear tyres were warming up faster than front, total of 3 self induced spins I think. Overtaking was ace on this track, although really hard as well with the Porsche since it's soooooo unstable under braking & cornering, lol ;D
All in all a great race for me and if anyone tells me I should go to the gym or work out etc... I'll put them behind this wheel and let them drive the Bi-T on Donington for 1 hour, loool! Let's see how they talk after that... (They won't be able to for about 10 minutes I think ;))

T

P.S. Get well soon Silver


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: greg130 on September 20, 2005, 05:51:00 PM +0100

Qualified 2nd in class behind Locutus (but since I just checked and he's 'locutos ukgtr En D1' he should have been in a different car? d let them drive the Bi-T on Donington for 1 hour, loool! Let's see how they talk after that... (They won't be able to for about 10 minutes I think ;))

Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 20, 2005, 06:45:44 PM +0100
Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)

Firstly, Locutos was a reserve until yesterday. He has now decided he'd like to run full time in D1, which means that in future races he will join D2 in a G3 car.

Reserves are allowed to enter either class in either division in order to keep the numbers in the main classes up. The only reserve driver who is running regularly in both division is Jamera, and he's in NGT which is undersubscribed anyway.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: greg130 on September 20, 2005, 07:14:16 PM +0100
Fair enough, however it wouldnt suprize me to see some of the wosec guys competing on a more regular basis now that league has folded.


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Jamera on September 20, 2005, 10:15:28 PM +0100
Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)

Firstly, Locutos was a reserve until yesterday. He has now decided he'd like to run full time in D1, which means that in future races he will join D2 in a G3 car.

Reserves are allowed to enter either class in either division in order to keep the numbers in the main classes up. The only reserve driver who is running regularly in both division is Jamera, and he's in NGT which is undersubscribed anyway.





 I thought that was the agreement for reserve drivers to take a NGT car for that very reason


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: silver53 on September 20, 2005, 10:57:23 PM +0100
you were all ok as I kept windows shut. I will not be about for a couple of weeks as sitting is not my fav occupation at pres. Please count me in for latter and let Zip chose a car etc to fit in wih Penguins if they will still have me.gerald


Title: Re: Endurance Championship Division 2 - Season 1, Round 5, Donington - Sept 18th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 21, 2005, 09:42:32 AM +0100
I thought that was the agreement for reserve drivers to take a NGT car for that very reason

Well I didn't want to dictate what reserves took but given the current numbers in each class NGT runners are my preferred choice... ;)