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Title: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 09, 2009, 12:07:22 AM +0100
Season 17  Clubman's Cup - Round 8 - Mosport

The first of three original papy tracks to round off the season.  Mosport has it all, fast corners, slow corners, undulations and straights.  A good all-round set-up is required here. 

Any points score here above 15 would secure the title for Tim.  Will he settle for a points score or go all out for the win?  Do pigs fly?

Remember if you want to take a chassis faster than the one your championship position dictates then you MUST make the appropriate pit stop.

The rules have not changed from last season however all drivers are asked to ensure they are familiar with the rules (both general (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro) and division specific (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=204&theme=6)) and the penalty guidelines (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/penalties).  Also the Recommended Driver Behaviour (https://www.ukgpl.com/rec_dvr_beh/rec_driver_beh.htm) page has some great info on how to get the most out of racing on-line with GPL.

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m (UK London Time = BST = GMT + 1h).

Race List = VROC
Server = 4.UKGPL
IP address = 84.70.242.152
Race date = 14-06-2009
Time 9:00 pm (UK London Time = BST = GMT + 1h)
Track = Mosport
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = Long (27 laps)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

CHASSIS RESTRICTIONS
These are based on the drivers position in the championship (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=204&theme=6).  Any driver who chooses to take a chassis faster than their position in the championship dictates, must make a mandatory pit stop as defined below.

Group 1
Tim Muttram
Jack O'Ferrall

Group 2
Phil Thornton
Sam Blood

Group 3
Kevin Clark
Bernie Darwin

Group 4
Steve Bird
James Rye

Pit Stop Times
Group 1
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
Lotus
32
   
11
Eagle
20
   
N/A
Ferrari
15
   
N/A
Brabham
2
   
N/A

Group 2
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
Lotus
19
   
N/A
Eagle
8
   
N/A
Ferrari
2
   
N/A

Group 3
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
Lotus
7
   
N/A
Eagle
Stop and Go
   
N/A

Group 4
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
Lotus
2
   
N/A


 First Pit Window is: 22 (to go on your pit board) to 14 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 20 (to go on your pit board) to 7 (to go on your pit board)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Geoff65 on June 11, 2009, 02:54:24 PM +0100
Have to work Sunday night, but still, should be home in time to have a bash at Mossie in the Big Thumpers....
Having some practice there in the Eagle on Saturday night with OAO. So should be suitably Mosported-out by the end of Monday morning.... :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: vosblod on June 11, 2009, 03:06:07 PM +0100
I should be there - L plates still attached. 1.19's look a tad unattainable though  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: b_1_rd on June 11, 2009, 05:36:25 PM +0100
Still not 100% sure I can make this one, but wouldn't mind a few practice runs before, just in case.  Anything planned?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 11, 2009, 06:30:04 PM +0100
I believe Phil said elsewhere he'll have the server up from Friday evening for practice purposes  :)

I'll let you lot guess what kind of race I intend on running  ;)  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 11, 2009, 07:11:02 PM +0100
I believe Phil said elsewhere he'll have the server up from Friday evening for practice purposes  :)
Indeed I did (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5864.msg111062#msg111062).  Server is up now (4.UKGPL on VROC) if anyone wants to test their connection.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 11, 2009, 09:13:03 PM +0100
Just had a quick praccy race on 4.UKGPL.  Al Heller connected OK and good lap times too, WD Al :D.  These 67s take some getting used to after racing the 65s here on Tuesday!  Mind you only 27 laps this time not the 45 lap marathon we did on Tuesday.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Al Heller on June 11, 2009, 09:19:03 PM +0100
Thanks Phil  :). I think I was still in 65-mode there - managed to blow 2 engines.. should be fun on Sunday (he says)  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: JamesRye on June 12, 2009, 08:41:52 AM +0100
I practiced at Mosport briefly last night, but had the same disco problem that I had in the novice race.

Not sure why because GPL had been very stable recently and I competed at Jarama, Lyme Rock and Rouen with no probs. Tried swapping back to OpenGL, but problem persists. ???

Anyone got any suggestions? You can see quite far into the distance here.....could the draw distance somehow be an issue?? (clutches at straws).

James


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: vosblod on June 12, 2009, 09:19:28 AM +0100
I'm not an expert but had my fair share of disco's/CTD's.
I take it GPL doesn't freeze/CTD offline as well? If it does it's probably a rasterizer issue.
If only online I'd be looking for a connection problem. Am I right in thinking you were connecting via wireless? Definitely wouldn't reccomend that. It's unlikely to be the server itself unless lots of others also get disco'd, if the server 'loses' you it tends to be happy to pick you back up when it 'finds' you again.
Not much help but I'd be looking at your connection stability as a first point of call.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: JamesRye on June 12, 2009, 11:29:37 AM +0100
Thanks Vos...

I dont use wireless anymore and this move to a hard connection seemed to have solved my problems.
Offline, the game is fine.

I will try again tonight....maybe if I end all un-neccessary processes it will be OK.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: vosblod on June 12, 2009, 12:02:25 PM +0100
Good idea re ending the myriad of extra programs that like to plonk themselves into your start-up. I do leave my virus software running but, apart from a strange voice coming over the tannoy mid-race telling me the database has been updated, it doesn't seem to interfere.
Worth checking how consistent your speed/connection is - the crashes I've had lately were all due to my ISP blipping my internet connection.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 12, 2009, 07:35:19 PM +0100
I will try again tonight....maybe if I end all un-neccessary processes it will be OK.
James,

I've set the server off again (4.UKGPL on VROC) hopefully you can connect OK.  I don't think anyone else had problems last night which would indicate that the problem is with your client rather than the server.  Is there any pattern to the discos?  Does it always occur at a specific part of the track (pit entry for example)?  If so it might imply it is graphics related.  My favourite culprit would be something like a virus checker or some auto update program (ipod tools, windows update etc). 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: bernie on June 12, 2009, 11:45:39 PM +0100
End it all  ;)




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 13, 2009, 12:03:32 AM +0100
End it all  ;)




The cliff it is for me then. :( ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 13, 2009, 04:37:56 AM +0100
End it all  ;)




The cliff it is for me then. :( ;)

So, another down for UKGPL Team.  ::) Any replacement candidates?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: JamesRye on June 13, 2009, 08:21:14 PM +0100
OK, I stayed connected for qualy and a 14 lap race last night. So I should be OK to take part  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 14, 2009, 05:22:58 PM +0100
There's a small chance I'll miss tonight as I only just got back from a weekend at Llandow with my car club - much booze, burgers, and track action ensued and I'm knackered.
That's despite my girly nap between about 2 and 4 PM this afternoon when I finally got home  :ninja:

I'll try and make it as I love Mosport, but there's a chance you won't see me  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 14, 2009, 06:50:38 PM +0100
There's a small chance I'll miss tonight as I only just got back from a weekend at Llandow with my car club - much booze, burgers, and track action ensued and I'm knackered.
That's despite my girly nap between about 2 and 4 PM this afternoon when I finally got home  :ninja:

I'll try and make it as I love Mosport, but there's a chance you won't see me  :(

You got to please HER, Tim, so... ganbare!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Geoff65 on June 14, 2009, 09:49:50 PM +0100
Car was crap.......had about as much of Mosport as I can handle for one month, better off outta there lest lack of interest takes over. Sorry, to whoever it was in the Lotus that nailed me when the fence bounce me back out into the middle of the track after T2.
Grats to Al Heller on a great pole time
Grats to the podium and  finishers...whomever that will be.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: JamesRye on June 14, 2009, 10:05:06 PM +0100
thought I had pole in the bag, so practiced on rf. Big congrats to Al  ;) for usurping me at the last minute.

For once I got a great start and led into T1  :). Held off some pressure from Tim and then started to pull away.

My race was then ruined  >:( by someone who got t-boned as they drove straight out in front of me. Some advice: rev it up and spin around.

Anyway I tried to carry on, but something was broken. I lunched down the inside of Phil's Ferrari in a foolish (angry) overtake which I apologise for. As I said, the car wasn't right and I had to reset and take my SNG (which in retrospect I probably didn't need to do) but anyway....I then slid off exiting the pits. Finally got going again and set a good laptime before the BRM's engine blew up.

Grrrr, took another SNG and reset but I was overdriving it and I just went wide and crashed. Then I quit.

Ryeman


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: b_1_rd on June 14, 2009, 10:43:53 PM +0100
Didn't particularly enjoy that one.  Got punted off at T2 ended up at the back of the field on a track that's very hard to overtake and overtaking is my weakest point.

wd podium


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: vosblod on June 15, 2009, 01:13:31 AM +0100
Congrats to Tim M for the win and ? wrapping up the championship. Also well done team-mate Al for second on your maiden foray.
Nice steady race for me. Only spin was an off when trying to lap James A - totally my error, need to practice lapping...
Both Bernie and Phil overtook me so was surprised to be where I was, take it down to pit stops etc.
Towards the end Phil was closing - on the last lap and almost at the flag I saw a red devil in my mirrors. My heart was pounding but just scraped through in front :sweatdrop: Turns out it was Steve B not Phil, didn't get much time to look at Prib in this race.
Anyway shocked, surprised but very pleased to get the third spot  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: bernie on June 15, 2009, 10:44:15 AM +0100
Another crap performance from team pie eater ,was feeling really knacked after a late return from the IOM . couldnt get near my 1m22 PB in practise so tried with full gas and was 2nd fastest for a while before getting relegated.
When the flag dropped I got bogged behind the slow starting lotus but eventually got past Vlos into P4 ? but I was making to many mistakes trying to get up with the leaders then when one dropped out I was P3 but still way behind , after my pit stop I was back behind Vlos again but still making stupid errors , Phil came by a couple of times but he to was having trouble keeping on the black bits so P3 seesawed around between the 3 of us . near the end I made a big error at the "jump " landed wrong went grass cutting then a right mess of my re join and collected a car or two (JackO ? ) sorry if I wrecked your race , no doubt I will be suitably admonished come judgement day .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Michael Turner on June 15, 2009, 11:19:54 AM +0100
Disaster from start to finish. Multitudinous apologies to James who was the victim of my pig's ear of a rejoin after my umpteenth off. Decided to call it a day before things got even worse  (if that was possible) :-[ 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 15, 2009, 11:43:28 AM +0100
Very happy with my win, Think it was clean despite what looks like either lag contact (very light if so) or simply a wobble caused by my blasting close past Phil off the start line - Sorry either way if it was me Phil  :-[

After that I managed to get inside of Al exiting T1 which gave me 2nd, I caught and stayed with James for quite a few laps until I made some silly mistakes a Moss. This dropped me back about 3-4 seconds letting him get clear. Next thing I knew there were yellows everywhere on the approach to the start straight and I passed a couple of cars that were up on the grass, looked at Prib a found myself in 1st.
I steadily pulled away from Al despite another daft mistake or two at Moss, only to let him nearly catch and pass me for first when I locked up big style over the jump and went off into the hedge.
Rejoined about 2 seconds ahead which resulted in Al being right up my G/Box by the S/F line  :o
Had to pull myself together and concentrate hard to hold him off until finally I broke away. Still not sure if that was me simply improving my laps by a few tenths or just Al backing off and letting me go?

Anyway, despite the win and my normal enjoyment at Mosport that was a damn hard race, and I can't say I had the normal huge amount of fun there, very odd  ???

Well done Al on a very good first race, and a very big slap on the back to Tim on a podium spot  ;D
Bad luck James, You were quicker in the first half of the lap while I seemed to have the 2nd half. Would have been interesting to see who came put on top - bad luck on the accident  :)
And of course congrats to all the other finishers!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Clubmans Cup - Mosport - Jun 14
Post by: Al Heller on June 15, 2009, 12:57:26 PM +0100
Thoroughly enjoyed my first outing in the 67s - Clubmans is a great way to get started :) James R immediately set a scorching time in qually - I wasn't anywhere near it for most of the session but gradually improved, was lucky with traffic & somehow beat my PB by a mile to get my first pole ;D. Can't believe you did that lap in the BRM though James - if I was in it I'd still be lapping now..

Still getting the hang of starts so dropped a couple of places but pleased just to get away in one piece. Bernie (I think) was all over me for the first few laps but after that I had a bit of breathing space. Inherited 2nd after James suffered his mishap, then saw Tim M off at Moss & thought Christmas had come early but sadly Tim got going again just as I arrived. Hard to get a clean overtaking spot at Mosport so tried to sit on Tim's tail for a while - was driving hard to keep up but having never completed more than 10 laps in practice without blowing an engine thought I'd better ease off a little & started changing up earlier which dropped me back a bit.

Clark-Hill team-mate Vos was running strongly in 3rd so I was the meat in a Tim-sandwich for the rest of the race. Having thrown away a podium place with silly mistakes late on in both my Novice races, I was desperate not to chuck this one so was delighted to finally stay on track until the chequered flag & my first podium :w00t: Congratulations to Tim M for the win & the championship. Congrats also to Tim (Vos) on his second podium of the week - so Tim that's a 2nd & a 3rd so next race should be the win, right?