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Title: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 15, 2009, 09:33:33 AM +0100
The third of four rounds of a special GT3 Endurance Series to fill those long June Sunday evenings whilst we sort out Season 10.

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(20 mins)
Race:20:30(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT3 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.9.5.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: changeable, seeded from real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: UKGTR Brands Hatch 2005 GP (v1.0.1.0) (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_brands)
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Summer
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=197;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Busi on June 15, 2009, 10:29:26 AM +0100
The third of four rounds of a special GT3 Endurance Series to fill those long June Sunday evenings whilst we sort out Season 10.
This race coincides with the 24H of Le Mans in the real world.

Copy&paste FTW :laugh:

Doubt I can make this one :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 15, 2009, 11:54:37 PM +0100
Nice choice Dave :) Don't think I've done Brands in GTR2 so I'm looking forward to this one. The 811 should be pretty good, pretty, pretty good around here as well.

Doubt I can make this one :-\

 :'( Go on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Gazza49er on June 16, 2009, 11:14:55 AM +0100
Can we have Brands Hatch on the server sometime soon plz, if it is already i apologise.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: picnic on June 16, 2009, 01:09:57 PM +0100
Can we have Brands Hatch on the server sometime soon plz, if it is already i apologise.

Your wish is my command :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Mark J on June 16, 2009, 01:12:38 PM +0100
ooh...Brands Hatch, my local track with a cup car 911...mmm,mmm.  8)

Hope i can make this one, should be a blast.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Gazza49er on June 17, 2009, 12:40:33 PM +0100
Whats a decent time round here in the 911? Did a few laps last night to learn the circuit and could only manage high 1.28's low 1.29's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 17, 2009, 11:21:39 PM +0100
Whats a decent time round here in the 911? Did a few laps last night to learn the circuit and could only manage high 1.28's low 1.29's

Was only gonna test everything was working tonight but got rather stuck on server as Brands and the 811 is a great combo :) After a dozen laps I dipped into 27's and MJ was doing 29's heading for 28's I guess. Definitely be online Friday night to try that again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Mark J on June 18, 2009, 12:58:05 PM +0100
i can do 1:26's around here in the 996RS and the lap records show same time for the modena and other GTC cars, so your 1:27 in the GT3 was a great time Ginsters. I was on the cusp of 1:28 in the Cup car but had to get some sack time. More laps should get me in there.

Brands is a superb track layout and really suits these nimble cars. 8) I wish we used it more often.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Ade on June 19, 2009, 03:00:52 AM +0100
Had a lap or twenty tonight with a few of the boys and got a PB in the Lotus of 1:27.253 with soft tyres that's with one very slow out lap and two flyer's by then the wheels are on fire  with 3 wear on the rears  :o why does this thing eat its tyres ??? smart little car though.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 19, 2009, 08:07:49 AM +0100
1:27.253 with soft tyres that's with one very slow out lap and two flyer's by then the  why does this thing eat its tyres ??? smart little car though.

I'd like to know how its so flipping fast?  :) Be great fun to see it up front.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Ade on June 19, 2009, 11:16:11 AM +0100
Be great fun to see it up front.

That ain't gonna happen with me driving and my record at pit stops :laugh: five minutes in the pits at Spa trying to restart my engine  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Mark J on June 19, 2009, 11:23:13 AM +0100
i gave up on manual pitstops after too many fumbling finger panic attacks and non starting cars. It ruined too many hard fought races for me and not worth it for the odd couple of secs it saves you over auto stops, especially over an endurance race length. So i went back to auto-pit.

Lotus', 911cup and Nissan Zs at Brands, it will look like a British GT round  8)

Anyone see the Brit GT round at Spa a couple of weeks ago? It was brilliant, the in-car footage was just like one of our races ! The viper v mosler v F360 panned out just like one of our events.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Legzy on June 19, 2009, 11:25:42 AM +0100
I'm out all day Sunday & not sure I'll be back in time, which is a real shame as this is a great track we've not done in ages!
If I do get back in time, I'm going to give the BMW another blast having done a bunch of laps last night in it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Truetom on June 19, 2009, 05:36:06 PM +0100
Friday, 8 pm?  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Truetom on June 20, 2009, 11:38:40 AM +0100
Can't see the server - is there some kind of storm?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 20, 2009, 03:13:39 PM +0100
Seems TS is running, looking at the viewer at the top of the announcment but the UKGTR, PnG and GTL servers are still down. Guess they might need a helping hand?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: picnic on June 20, 2009, 03:33:50 PM +0100
The SROU server crashed this morning and is now back on line, however it can't connect to the lobby for GTR2 or GTL. Neither can I from the game PC here at home :( Can others see the lobbies?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: psuedo on June 20, 2009, 03:47:49 PM +0100
I can connect to the GTR2 lobby ok.....no probs.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 20, 2009, 03:48:36 PM +0100
I can see the lobbies but just not the servers for both GTR2 and GTL :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: picnic on June 20, 2009, 03:51:41 PM +0100
Lobby has come back for me here but our server's DNS is messed up. I think I know why. I'll get the servers back as soon as I can.


EDIT:

Servers should all be back, sorry for the downtime


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Gazza49er on June 20, 2009, 04:05:18 PM +0100
Just been on and the server is up now guys


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 20, 2009, 04:05:43 PM +0100
Brilliant, thanks for that Picnic 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: psuedo on June 20, 2009, 04:07:39 PM +0100
No probs Pete. Thanks for sorting them  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: goldtop on June 21, 2009, 11:43:33 AM +0100
I'm mega busy at the moment so I'll only be able to do a few pracci laps to see if everything works. I know the track so I hope to join you later for the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Reign Man on June 21, 2009, 04:27:28 PM +0100
I can't connect to the server. Im always booted as a cheat!!?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Reign Man on June 21, 2009, 04:36:25 PM +0100
Ok, ignore me.  I know whats wrong.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 21, 2009, 05:47:54 PM +0100
Never particularly liked this track in GTR2, the track is modelled too coursely for my liking as well especially into paddock and i can see me being well off the pace here, best race time is a 29.6.

Strangly even topgear cant keep me away, jeez whats wrong with me? ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Fish Tail on June 21, 2009, 07:23:35 PM +0100
Sadly, I'm going to give this one a miss.  :(

Lap times just aren't consistantly good enough yet. PB of 1:30.4, but averaging 1:32...when I can keep it out of the gravel  :laugh:

Hopefully I'll be ready for the start of the season 10 races.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Reign Man on June 21, 2009, 07:56:43 PM +0100
Best Way to get Experience is to race.  You shouldn't be worrying about your times.  Make use of these non-season races  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: ginsters sponsored on June 21, 2009, 08:49:10 PM +0100
That wasn't a success :)

Totally knackered by trye markings changing in quali from pracci, as I've only done pracci sessions, and quali was a matter of learning track all over again. Cwap time result of me dumbness. Then puter luck up after four laps and actually learning track. Thought I'd got rid of problem but getting rid of cwapi 8800 card is only way forward.

Hope you had more fun than me :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Busi on June 21, 2009, 09:23:21 PM +0100
Lots of fun coming from the back, including a 4 abreast moment with TT, ade and Spanner I think :D

Was fighting with H@L and RM, three totally different cars made it great. Had to go so I esc'ed :)

Great pace Psuedo and Gazza 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: H@L9000 on June 21, 2009, 10:08:01 PM +0100
That sure was fun. :)

I had some nice fights. That was great Busi. ;D  Me and RM were talking on TS during the battle which made it all the more fun.

Looked like hard work passing in the Vertigo.

Well done podiums. Nice return result for RM and Psuedo. :)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: psuedo on June 21, 2009, 10:13:26 PM +0100
I'm not happy.  :( Welcome back Bob. ::)

I was nice and steady in the lead, slowly pulling a cumfy gap on Gazza, up to just after half distance when I pitted. Not the best of stops.....pit crew just stood there telling me to turn engine off....even though I already had done  ???....that cost me 10/15 seconds.
Then when leaving my box, I got a stop n go notice....dont know what for...must have missed the pit line on entry. So I pitted again at the end of the lap to serve it....only the option to serve was N/A on the pit board  ??? ??? ???. I then had to alter all the board to stop the crew sticking more fuel and tyres on it, so I probably lost more time than an actual stop n go  ::)

Charged hard then till the end and was catching TT rapidly and would have been battling nose to tail with him within a couple of laps....but the premature end put paid to that.

All in all, not the best return to driving, but I am most certainly encouraged by my pace.....anyone would have thought I'd been practicing  :o :laugh:

Grats to RM, Gazza and TT.

I'm looking forward to the next one  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: picnic on June 21, 2009, 10:39:28 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090621%20U9SC/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Reign Man on June 21, 2009, 10:41:36 PM +0100
Wow. I love that track!

First race back after a little break.  Very enjoyable race, I was always racing somebody for the whole race. Great tussles with H@L and I think Mark who was on our tail until Busi arrived.
Had lots of fun keeping him behind, real shame that you had to quit out.

As a result of that tussle I was in front of h@l and miles behind Gazza and Pseudo but they had some dramas around the pitstop so i found myself in first after my pit stop. Had to defend against gazza until the race ended, 8 minutes early.

Very pleased and very tired.

catch ya later


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 21, 2009, 10:52:45 PM +0100
That didn't go too badly despite me spinning coming out of Clark Curve and losing 8 seconds or so. Unlike me Le Mans stop this one went perfectly and I seemed to gain loads of time on MJ, Ade and JPS.

Sorry about the race ending short - I must've forgotten to disable the non-UKGTR version of the track on the server. At least the GT3s aren't too fast - if we were in GT1s it would've ended even earlier! ::)

Can't believe how those Vertigos just waltzed passed! :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Mark J on June 21, 2009, 10:59:36 PM +0100
I had a bit of a Button day...ie crap home performance  :laugh:

It all started so well, pumped in some good laptimes in qually and grabbed 6th place ahead of my illustrious team mate TT.  :)

Race start was good, keeping close to Reign man in front who was battling Gazza whilst i had TT breathing down my neck. Both of us ran wide once but TT's was more damaging and he dropped about 5 places allowing me to chase the two ahead for half an hour with about 1 sec seperating the 3 of us.

But on the half hour mark i got my right rear tyre slightly on the grass when braking for graham hill bend and the car span me backwards onto that ridiculous high kerb. I got beached on it for about 20+ seconds and lost around 5 places  >:( i'd had a 9 sec lead over cars behind before that happened.  :(
Then i chased hard after the pack again and closed the 20 secs to 3 but had another damn spin on very worn rubber and got beached on the same flipping kerb losing another 20 seconds  ::)  :taz:
That was effectively race over as could not make the time up to Ade and DG ahead in final quarter of race.
I pumped in plenty of quick laps after my stop and it took the lapping leaders an age to finally close on me enough to flash them through. But alas no one up front made any errors and i finished a cruddy 8th on my beloved local circuit. :'(
Great track, a real challenge for enduro with nowhere for a rest on the whole lap.
Congrats to podium guys. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Legzy on June 21, 2009, 11:06:34 PM +0100
Great track, a real challenge for enduro with nowhere for a rest on the whole lap.

MJ, you've just described the perfect track to me, especially for an endurance event!
Gutted I missed this, stuck in traffic on M25 for far too long, but it was always going to be tight.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Gazza49er on June 22, 2009, 12:11:38 AM +0100
Enjoyed that  :)

Pseudo and me pulled away at the start, but i couldn't really stay with him as i knew from the practise sessions he was quicker. Had a comfortable lead over 3rd at the pitstop but made a rookie error by forgetting to set the pitstop up in the garage so i got a whole 80 litres to carry round for 40 mins  ::)

This let Reign  man into the lead and with Bobs problems i was still in 2nd but could only just about keep Reign mans pace with the extra weight. Got close a few times side by side in a few corners but couldn't make it stick.

Grats Reign Man, great return, TT and unlucky bob great pace and should of won.

Great to see the whole team back again  8) 8) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Truetom on June 22, 2009, 01:33:38 PM +0100
A greatly undeserved 3rd place for me. Q7, I think - seems like all those prayers did help MJ after all. ;) Good lap, buddy.  8)
Had two spins in the race, lost places on both and seems my wife is right in calling me stubborn. Clawed back on to 3rd and stayed there thanks to Psuedo's unfortunate pitting adventures and 10 minutes shorter race lenght. :shifty:  Consider U8LS Mugello avenged.  ;D

Brands is a great track, while the GT3 cars are less so. Can we have a GT2 race here please?  :)

Grats pody.

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: JPS on June 22, 2009, 08:45:05 PM +0100
Brands is one of those tracks that just waits for you to make a mistake, then punishes you severely..for some reason front brakes over heated going into the hair pin (after I managed to jump both MJ and Spanner during the pit stops) whilst MJ was hunting me down for 8th place the rears grabbed and the fronts faded and then spun me into the gravel :o by the time I got out MJ was gone and I had Spanner 5 secs behind, I was able to hold him there until he suddenly retired for some reason.

Top ten finish 8)

My nemesis Gizmo once again showed his pace in the Nissan, and showed me a clean pair of heals from the start.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 22, 2009, 09:05:41 PM +0100
Knew i was going to struggle around here and after i ended up at the back and had no real chance to gain i'd spent 45mins debating whether to give up or not. I was a bit miffed as well that TT decided to push his way though as well, admittedly I was trying to box him behind Ade but wasnt expecting to get pushed out the way.

Theres a bit of a single racing line around here, as soon as you wander off around Druids or Westfield or around Dingle Dell you suddenly lose alot of grip.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Truetom on June 22, 2009, 10:35:00 PM +0100
I was a bit miffed as well that TT decided to push his way though as well, admittedly I was trying to box him behind Ade but wasnt expecting to get pushed out the way.

Was there a contact?  :(  Can't remember, really. Will see the replay. I apologize up front if there was a fishy situation, surely nothing intentional.  :(

Edit: saw the replay, seems like there indeed was a contact and I apologize. I remember the situation now and I remember you left my view on the left side and I assumed I was far enough in front to make a pass. Apparently I was not.  :(  I never felt any contact, nor heard any bump or screech some such. Again, I'm sorry.  :(

Erm, that spin after that was entirely your own idea. 10+ for artistic impression.  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Jure on June 24, 2009, 05:45:34 PM +0100
First time on the track, first time in any GT3 class cars. Porsche... smthn. Drives well.

Until you decide to change tyre pressure right before the race start (was still, frantically, searching for a semi-agreeable setup in quali anyway).

OK, I get lift off oversteer, but this was just insane. Was gutted and quit before leaders caught me up, just in case.

Love the track though.

"Relax? WHAT DO YOU MEAN RELAX, HERE'S A SANDTRAP FOR YOU!!!!"  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: spanner on June 24, 2009, 06:21:39 PM +0100
I was a bit miffed as well that TT decided to push his way though as well, admittedly I was trying to box him behind Ade but wasnt expecting to get pushed out the way.

Was there a contact?  :(  Can't remember, really. Will see the replay. I apologize up front if there was a fishy situation, surely nothing intentional.  :(

Edit: saw the replay, seems like there indeed was a contact and I apologize. I remember the situation now and I remember you left my view on the left side and I assumed I was far enough in front to make a pass. Apparently I was not.  :(  I never felt any contact, nor heard any bump or screech some such. Again, I'm sorry.  :(

Erm, that spin after that was entirely your own idea. 10+ for artistic impression.  :thumbup2:



Ok, no worries TT. Yeah, Well the sudden loss of grip offline around that corner shocked me and i just skated off!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Mark J on July 06, 2009, 09:55:59 AM +0100
Dave, apparently there is a version 2.0 of this track available now, (2006 version of the circuit?) Apparently improved over version we have used. Could be worth a try out.

available here:- http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,907

would offer to test but as posted, am out of action for while.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 9 Summer Challenge (GT3) - Brands Hatch (GP) - Jun 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 06, 2009, 03:56:03 PM +0100
Dave, apparently there is a version 2.0 of this track available now, (2006 version of the circuit?) Apparently improved over version we have used. Could be worth a try out.

available here:- http://www.pilsbierbude.de/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,907

Hmm, it's the Race '07 version which TBH is sailing a bit close to the wind in terms of legality. :-\