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Division 1 returns to Mosport with its majestic sweeping curves and crests, recently improved with a new update on the graphics.

The long downhill turn 2 is always ready to spit the unwary out onto the grass and the compression and hairpin at Moss tests the setups and driver control. The jump at the end of the straight is also a good place to blow the rev limiter in the heat of battle, so beware.

The last three rounds of this season are going to see some very tense races, with points and finishing a priority amongst the top half a dozen drivers as they jostle for the top league places.
Recently we have seen a few more cars on the grid as newer members try their hand in this Division which has made the racing more interesting for everyone. Let’s keep those grids topped up right through to the last race of the season.

Oh, and one small reminder about racing at Mooseport…..watch out for the ruts !!!

Race List = VROC
Server = 5.UKGPL
IP address =
Race date = 21-06-2009
Time 9:00 pm (UK London Time = BST = GMT + 1h)
Track = Mosport
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = Long (36 laps)
Password: see above



36 laps

Division 1

	Single Stop Time		Double Stop Time
BRM	No Stop		N/A
Honda	Stop and Go		N/A
Cooper	Stop and Go		N/A
Brabham	12		N/A
Ferrari	21		N/A
Eagle	28		N/A
Lotus	35		12

 First Pit Window is: 28 (to go on your pit board) to 19 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 26 (to go on your pit board) to 9 (to go on your pit board)

Seems I'll be available to run this event afterall.

I mentioned in another thread that I planned to go to Mosport this particular weekend for the annual VARAC Vintage Car Festival and wouldn't be around for the UKGPL event.  However...

Some time ago, I made a policy decision that if the money-gouging oil companies raised the price on a litre of gasoline to $1.00 CDN, I'd cancel that...and other travel...plans.  It tipped over that mark last week.  Swines!

I suppose that $1.00 CDN(0.635 Euro)for a litre of fuel would be positively heavenly for the European crowd but over here, it's rape! 

Time to get yerself an oil burner ?

Recycled cooking oil and a diesel conversion I think ::)

That's about 54p a litre - we pay over £1 in the UK so half price - my idea of heaven anyway  :angel:
Almost worth a ferry ride over the bering straight to tank up  ;)

I should be able to make it. Hope the wireless connection's better. :)

I might be late, or no show, for this race. :-[
My good wife has just informed me that we are going to be in the Midlands on Sunday doing the "family" thing, so I have no idea what time I my be home. :-\

Hopefully I will survive and arrange an early exit ;)

Don't worry but it IS as bad as it sounds.

Thank the Lord they dont run 'em on whisky  :D

I guess this is something even SHE can't overturn. Hope you make it though, Clive.

Lotus 49 around here. I think I'm doomed before I start! ::)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Server had a hissy fit at me with "network error" messages in chat, and then it booted me. Tried to reconnect, too late. Was gonna be 2nd on the grid and had a real shot at a result. So frustrated, really wanted this one. AARRGGHH!

Bah, shortest race I've had so far this season.

Started well enough, went into the first corner and me and Tim had a coming together. Need to check to replay to see what happened but from what I remember, I went for a gap but Tim didn't see me and took the racing line. My apologies Tim, but we were a good half car length apart when warp intervened. Just another peril of sim racing I guess.

Had a great start off the line, so much so I had to back off early to avoid the car ahead.
I then gained the attentions of the BRM behind (Including a possible nudge) so dicided while it was clear I'd best take the inside line and get out of there way - unfortunatly it wasn't clear as Sam had hidden in my blindspot and I turned in on him :(
Added lag made the relatively light contact fatal for both of us, Sorry Sam  :death:

Was looking good for a podium too  :'(

here is my race report:

qualified P3, a pb by about 0.5 secs. Very pleased with the lap time  :)  The BRM and I are becoming better friends recently.

The BRM was over-steering like Tiff Needel was driving it, but I was quite fast here.

P2 did not take the start and got a blinder off the line and passed Mr Tway I think for second place. Running in P2 I was pushing very very hard and only loosing a second a lap to Hristo. This was good but the guy behind was faster and pushing me hard. I thought he was making an overtake into T2 and gave him a lot of room but he backed out. Even though he had a second a lap on me...it was not possible to overtake (I blame the rear diffusers  ;D ) I actually pulled away a little, but ran wide over the grass in T2 and found myself in P3.

as I did not have to make a pit stop, I knew that I'd held the second place man up enough so that I'd re-pass him as long as I kept to within 10 secs.

Sure enough, with 8 laps to go, he was 8 secs behind. I started to get closed down but then pulled away as I guess he made some mistakes. Anyway, I started cruising for the line and as I passed the start/finish with 2 laps to go, the petrol started to run out   :(

Annoying as I'd over-filled by 4 laps. Still, I was lucky to finish as I was often in to low a gear and revving the beejesus out of me green wagon in order to keep the pace. I regularly over-fill for these races by 10 laps or so to be sure not to run out, but I wanted to be as competitive as possible here as I really smelled a good result.

After running out of petrol, I was gutted...head in hands, weeping gutted. I felt robbed I tells ya! But then joy of joys I still made the podium, so that was a nice consolation. :laugh:

As a side note, this race actually gave me a workout! My arms actually ache from all the hacksawing of the wheel that was going on. Especially in qualy, where the green machine was regularly sideways.

Ryeman

Finally a victory, though the championship chances are just theoretical now. Shame to see Tim and Evil retire, they were in good position here. SHE should be pleased though, we have a good lead in both driver and team standings.  ;D

As for the race, I tried a totally different setup for the race, an untested one, but with promising behavior during qualifying. As it was, the setup cooked the tyres too much, but it also cooked all 4 tyres too much. So while the grip level became kinda weird, the balance remained just about the same, with slightly understeer in mid-corner. Tyre temps were as high as I ever seen though, LOL, reaching 150 C at one point.  :o

Anyway, I had an ok start (I don't even remember the last time I actually had a GOOD start) and as we entered T1 I kept around the outside to avoid any contact, but maintained the lead.

James was a threat with his BRM and without making any stops I had to put a good gap back to him, so I pushed as hard as I dared in the beginning, taking advantage of cooler tyres, but having to preserve the engine at the same time. Luckily my gearing made that easier and the oil temperature was within safe bounds even when I used the full revs of the Honda.

We had a misunderstanding with Dave and while I was planning to pass him on the s/f straight he wanted to let me through before the last turn, something I didn't expect. I hit him and he went off, losing two positions in the process.  :-[

By the time I had to pit the gap to James was good enough and so I made my stop on the edge of pit window. Then just had to reach the finish, but that was easier said than done. Had to combat some fatigue issues that haunt me lately and also cope with the weird handling of the red hot rubber on the car.

Then came the moment that you were all looking for...  :D ... I went off and it was a huge shunt, just after the jump. I touched the dirt after landing and couldn't brake much, therefore plunging straight off into the fence, though I managed to spin the car around so it would take the hit sideways. Did that help or not, no clue, but when I came to my senses after briefly blacking out  ;D I reversed back onto the track, crushing the curbing to pieces in the process, then set off to continue.

Surprisingly the car handling wasn't worse than before, so the damage was either minimal or it was mitigating the problems caused by the overheating tyres, lol. Either way, it worked and I could get to the end without more drama... well, except an off at T2, but I think that's just something I ALWAYS do when racing at Mosport. Got to hate that corner... but I won't! One Jethro is enough!  :D

Grats to Doni for a surprising 2nd and James has to thank me for lapping 4th and beyond so he mantained his 3rd place.  :) Kidding though, great driving, James.

A tip for race fuel that I go by if I haven't tested and I don't know the consumption for a given track - put 1.4 more fuel if it's a BRM and Ferrari and 1.5 more if it's a Honda. Works most of the time and even if you finish with more fuel left, it's better than running out. Never go by what in-game car setup menu gives you as predicted laps for your fuel load, it's wrong for 90% of the tracks that exist for GPL. It only seems to work for Brabham really. And sometimes Lotus.  ::)

Grats,

-=Hristo=-

My hat is off to you Hristo, incredible qualifying pace (faster than my best lotus time!). Fastest lap. Showboating crash. Race win.

Nicely done.  :)

I also hear that someone was using wifi for this race. I used wifi at the start of the season and it caused untold problems....from discos to cloaking fields that rendered me and other drivers invisible. I recomend an ethernet cable.

James

Hmmmm a lesson to be learned here. :-\

I returned from my family visit at about 9p.m and by the time the car was unloaded..dogs fed...etc etc it was about 9:15, so there was still time to join the race :o).

However......

a) I was somewhat knackered......not a good way to start a race under any circumstances
b) I had only an old setup that was never very good when it was new!!
c) I did not have the IP so had to join via VROC.


Item a) I could live with by driving a conservative race and not at 100%

b) might prove a problem later in the race when tyre temps would prolly get into the infra red range ( as Hristo discovered)

c) was the fact that sealed my fate!!!  Because, as soon as I started to up the pace the steering becomes hyper sensitive and any slide puts the car beyond the range of any opposite lock correction available. Which is why several drivers saw me testing the scenery at various points on the circuit!!! until I quit out of sheer frustration.

I ONLY get this prob when I join via VROC.
Igor is perfect and joining Vroc races via an IP address is also fine, but I am really baffled by this problem.

If anyone can explain these symptoms I would love to hear from them!!

When I join through VROC my G25 loses all normal calibration.
I have a steering wheel that acts more like a switch.
 From centre position I have about 5 degrees of turn of wheel that gives an absolute max steering effect of about 20 degrees either way on the car ( a real problem at hairpins!!, at which point all FF disappears and the wheel becomes free with no further ff effect or steering until you return towards the centre. Within that limited working range of the wheel the force feedback feels like an overtightened bicycle chain, really notchy.

Which, of course, ;D ::) is why I did not win at Mosport.

I thought this was going to be another night of technical problems. All was going well in qualifying until I stopped to fill with race fuel at which point the sound became very weird - the engine sounded like a lawnmower on its last legs accompanied by a repetitive thudding sound. All very distracting. I tried quitting and rejoining but that didn't have the desired effect. Fortunately the performance of the car wasn't impaired and, bar a couple of offs, had an uneventful race crossing the line in fourth much to my surprise. This was due to the misfortunes of others rather than my own skills but quite pleasing nonetheless.

Can't really help with the VROC steering problem (my wheel is fine) but I did read something about ensuring you don't run the logitech profiler software.
For UKGPL.5 (Mike's server) you need to ping myjamesonline.net before the race. Instructions are here http://www.eukhost.com/forums/f38/how-ping-6108/ (http://www.eukhost.com/forums/f38/how-ping-6108/) although there may be a better way I don't know of...
Doing that will give you the IP number which you can then use to bypass VROC.

I will double check the setting to override FF settings in VROC (if it is there, I know it is in iGOR).

Other than that, yes use the ip and not VROC.

Ordinarily I'd agree with you, however I'm not in the position to have one. I don't own the router nor have a cable long enough to make it worthwhile (20m at least), and my parents frowned upon having a network cable trailing around the house.

Great fun Ryeman!!! Your great start forced me to hang outside on T1 and take P3. Had a great time chasing you down and yes that was an awkward moment when I hesitated on the pass...I still think if I'd gone for it, I would have ended up in the field of dreams....

After the Ryeman had a brief off which allowed me P2, I threw caution to the wind and gave it hell....after my 15 second pit, James was a good 15 seconds ahead but I was steadily gaining but spun on T3 and this put me too far behind with too few laps remaining. Like a fool, I decided to see if I could at least get a 21, and pushed it just a shade too hard over the hill before the HP and crashed and burned into the armco...losing a wheel and I think I was permanently embedded into it as well. :o

Despite my ending, it was great fun. Grats to the podium. A 20 in the Honda is just freaking phenomenal. WDH

Last time here in the Coop I blew an engine to pieces , so mindful of that I went long and tall on the ratios , a bit too long and lost out on straighaway speed but at least finished the race with all the rods intact.
Was happy to be able to keep Jacko then Evil ( take that you swine ) at bay in spite of his best attention, at one point I had a mirror full of Honda's and thought Evil had found another gear then I noticed the blues waving and people shouting to move over for H on his merry way to victory  :)

Had a half decent scrap with Teamy Mike and we swopped places a few times , both times down to driver error with Mike winning the final set .
 
All in all I enjoyed some good racing on a track I once used to really loath and then hate but have recently began to enjoy , there are still places here were my raw talent (for lawn striping)  shines through

Overall Verdict , a few to many unforced errors  ::)

Here's your answer Jethro.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ethernet+over+power&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=3396838475&ref=pd_sl_407c5c801a_b

Prohibitively expensive at the moment (I have next to no money), but I'll consider it when I get my JSA through. :)

Nah! Save yer money ...............





 



Get rid of yer parents  ;D

Here at Hiki Waza we don't need any parents, we only need HER !!!  :notworthy:

Bugger, forgot about this one!!!

Its an age thing  ;)

Grats to Hristo for putting on yet another driving clinic.  Pole, the win, FTD and lead every one of the 36 laps.  And didn't miss out by much in lapping the entire field to boot.

Stoney lucky for me to finish P2.  I wouldn't have bet I'd come away from this tough track with that kind of a result.  Home advantage?  :)

In Q, I didn't do much but get in a reasonable time not too far off my PB and then just park it.  I was confident that the P115 was dialed-in as good as I could make it.

Gross misfortune for Jethro to be bounced late in the session and not make the start.  Bad luck there, mate.

Off the start, I did come within an ace of knerfing Tim on the run down to T1 and had to stab the brakes hard to aviod creaming him.  Just made it!  PHEW!  But seconds later, I see he & Sam collide and go hurtling off to my left.  I only just missed getting collected.  Exiting T1, I had a Clive in the Honda close astern and over the next several laps, fully expected to have him sift by but no, I was able to hang on to P4 and even increase the slight margin.  I see from his post above that he again was experiencing controller difficulties.  Bad luck there, Evil.

It seems that Clive's gremlins are poles apart from mine in VROC.  He complains of steering which is hyper-sensitive.  Mine's a dead as a cold fish.  If you saved the replay, go to the grid and you'll see what I mean.  There, I run the steering wheel from lock to lock and you can still easily see the inside faces of the front wheels.  Offline or in iGOR events, if I'd swung the steering wheel over that far, I'd lose sight of the inside face of the rims.  This makes for some pretty spirited action in the cockpit, especially at the hairpin!   ;D

Clive had an off which left me fairly comfortable in P4 but on L8, I looped it in T1 to hand back all that time and have Clive a threat again.  Over the next laps, I again had the fortune to be able to pull away.  Things stabilized after that to let me run a solitary P4 but late in the going, Will had the great misfortune to lose the car in T4 and trim a corner off and James, after a fine drive in his P115, came up a litre or two short on petrol to hand me a gift P2 on the last lap.  Very bad luck indeed there, James.

I was expecting to see Hristo roar thru to lap me late in the going but noted that he had an off in T8 that delayed him otherwise he would have lapped the field!

I note Vosblod's tips above on entering VROC and will give them a shot next round.

C U then!  :)

Very pleased to hear that Will Tway enjoyed our battle.

I often wonder about that because in the last two races (Jarama and Canada) I have managed to leapfrog faster cars at the start, either due to good qualyfing or a bit of luck. Then they pressure me for a while and it's fun for me because the longer I can defend and hold them back, the greater the chance of my passing them in the pitstops.

But it must be a little annoying to know that I was ruining their chances of a race win. Still thats motorsport and I think that at the next tracks, both Silverstone and Monza there are clear cut overtaking places where it'll be much harder for me to defend. Its a shame that Will had his crash because the last couple of laps I think he'd have been right up with me, although I am thankful that he crashed off as I ran out of petrol.

At Jarama, I was lapping some 4secs off the pace towards the end as I just wanted to finish. This is probably why I did not run out of petrol at this race where the engine started spluttering as I crossed the start/finish line. Canada was a different story as I was pushing throughout and with 8 laps to go and will only 8 secs behind me, I was not easing off at all.

Ryeman